Latin American Tour 2013 [CANCELLED - GENERAL DISCUSSION HERE] - Page 12

Melwen · 09-10-2012, 04:27 AM

Sorry for stepping into the conversation, but Prospector is right. Roger Waters made 9 River Plate stadium here in Argentina, 45.000 people each night. U2 made 3 nights at La Plata stadium. I'm not saying that Coldplay is going to come, but I think South America (especially Brazil, Argentina and Chile) is already a good (and not great) market for live concerts.

fakfak · 09-10-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Melwen;5433951
Sorry for stepping into the conversation, but Prospector is right. Roger Waters made 9 River Plate stadium here in Argentina, 45.000 people each night. U2 made 3 nights at La Plata stadium. I'm not saying that Coldplay is going to come, but I think South America (especially Brazil, Argentina and Chile) is already a good (and not great) market for live concerts.

A great live draw for the right acts in the right cities, yes. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a major profit center yet. In business terms, it doesn't really matter what your draw is, only revenue - costs, just the same as every other business in the world.

fakfak · 09-10-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Prospector;5433886
Yeah, but we are getting there, since 2010 we're having loads of big international acts coming. Lady Gaga and Madonna are next this year, this wasn't common 10 years ago...

Exactly. as a market SA is really opening up, which is a good thing for those that live there and want live shows.

fakfak · 09-10-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis81;5433919
One thing, Did you know that your country is asking loans, yes loans to our country because USA have some cash problem??? My country is from latin america,the problem is not the money the problem is money is not divided fairly among the people, and we can pay this concerts, that's why we fight and complaint why not all the band visit us. And we are having more nd more concerts since small band start to believe we are a good market, the problem in some countries are the producer, but for the rest, people, money,fans, we more then USA I dare to say.No offence but from your point of view is a little small your perspective.

Well, that's the essential problem with money everywhere, but that's not the issue I was talking about. The perspective I'm writing from is that of someone who used to work in the live music industry (admittedly on a small scale.) and still hears things from friends in that line of work. Talk to most anyone who works tours and they'll tell you more or less the same thing I am. I'm not saying this to offend you, honest.

coldplaymom · 09-10-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fakfak;5433163
Actually, South America still isn't considered a real profit center in the touring industry. Although tickets are often expensive in the local currency, you have to factor in the exchange rate of the local money, to US $ or GPB or whatever. It's also far more expensive to freight all the gear to South America and then from county to country within (this also applies to some other regions like Australia.) and I've heard from people I know who work with tours that it's a lot harder to rent any backline equipment there, so most everything needs to be freighted. South America is an emerging market for live concerts, and in 10 or so years could well turn out to be an important region for touring, but honestly (and I don't mean this as offense to you guys who are from there. ), it's just not there yet.

The trip to South Africa last year might as well have been a benefit concert

fakfak · 09-10-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by coldplaymom;5434072
The trip to South Africa last year might as well have been a benefit concert

Well, that's probably going a bit too far.

But it's worth pointing out that there are reasons that bands tend not to tour certain areas until they can fill massive venues.

Travis81 · 12-10-2012, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by coldplaymom;5434072
The trip to South Africa last year might as well have been a benefit concert

Sorry but what is the benefit??

DiOli05 · 15-10-2012, 11:12 AM

There are rumors going about a concert in february in Costa Rica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wuuuuuaaaaaaaaaa I cannot go :/ :'(

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Juanma · 15-10-2012, 11:38 PM

No news.. Sad

JM-SP2 · 16-10-2012, 05:12 AM

If by november's there's still nothing, I think is safe to say there won't be a tour.

DiOli05 · 17-10-2012, 12:23 AM

Hey! so this entertainment company is Costa Rica is trying to make arrangements to bring Coldplay there. They are putting it up to a voting, apparently.

I thought it would not hurt to ask you guys for help! The only thing you have to do is to like the very first comment in the photo, that says "COLDPLAY"

I find it somewhat offensibe, maybe, that the other two are One Direction and Justin Bieber, but most of the people in my country are not far from dumb and they could win... voting closes on friday!

so please vote!!! Coldplay has very little votes, so all the help we can get is welcome! Thank you guys!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

fakfak · 17-10-2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JM-SP2;5438055
If by november's there's still nothing, I think is safe to say there won't be a tour.

It's not looking so likely at this point. At least not for February.

bosly1 · 17-10-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis81;5435703
Sorry but what is the benefit??

I agree with this as the concerts in South Africa last year were warm up shows for the Mylo Xyloto tour.

I'm going to Cape town next month, I wonder if I wrote to Coldplay and asked them to come back there in November they would do so

Travis81 · 28-10-2012, 03:59 AM

So the Oracle has spoken:

The Oracle:
:
Quote:
Decisions are made and changed on a daily basis as to what happens next after a campaign is coming to an end.
The natural thing to do is to take some time off but that has never yet been a year.
The band may be out of sight to the public but that doesn't mean they aren't working in some way or another.
After the Viva tour, the band returned for a Latin American leg. They finished 11th March 2010. They performed a couple of Crisis at Christmas gigs later that year and then re-emerged for live shows in June 2011 while continuing with the writing & recording process.

So now I can sleeeeeppppp well.

JM-SP2 · 29-10-2012, 04:46 PM

so today this news came to me as a shock: there's a rumor on Twitter that Coldplay MAY play in Lima on March. The thing is that the info is being handle by very few people who are involved in the concert scene here. Pretty hard to believe since Peru has never been in the rumored dates but well, there's nothing bad in having a little hope right?

09-10-2012, 04:27 AM	#166
Melwen Oh me, oh my! Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 498 My Mood: Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 9 Thanked 60 Times in 48 Posts	Sorry for stepping into the conversation, but Prospector is right. Roger Waters made 9 River Plate stadium here in Argentina, 45.000 people each night. U2 made 3 nights at La Plata stadium. I'm not saying that Coldplay is going to come, but I think South America (especially Brazil, Argentina and Chile) is already a good (and not great) market for live concerts. __________________

09-10-2012, 03:23 PM	#167
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Melwen;5433951 Sorry for stepping into the conversation, but Prospector is right. Roger Waters made 9 River Plate stadium here in Argentina, 45.000 people each night. U2 made 3 nights at La Plata stadium. I'm not saying that Coldplay is going to come, but I think South America (especially Brazil, Argentina and Chile) is already a good (and not great) market for live concerts. A great live draw for the right acts in the right cities, yes. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a major profit center yet. In business terms, it doesn't really matter what your draw is, only revenue - costs, just the same as every other business in the world.

09-10-2012, 03:24 PM	#168
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Prospector;5433886 Yeah, but we are getting there, since 2010 we're having loads of big international acts coming. Lady Gaga and Madonna are next this year, this wasn't common 10 years ago... Exactly. as a market SA is really opening up, which is a good thing for those that live there and want live shows.

09-10-2012, 03:29 PM	#169
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Travis81;5433919 One thing, Did you know that your country is asking loans, yes loans to our country because USA have some cash problem??? My country is from latin america,the problem is not the money the problem is money is not divided fairly among the people, and we can pay this concerts, that's why we fight and complaint why not all the band visit us. And we are having more nd more concerts since small band start to believe we are a good market, the problem in some countries are the producer, but for the rest, people, money,fans, we more then USA I dare to say.No offence but from your point of view is a little small your perspective. Well, that's the essential problem with money everywhere, but that's not the issue I was talking about. The perspective I'm writing from is that of someone who used to work in the live music industry (admittedly on a small scale.) and still hears things from friends in that line of work. Talk to most anyone who works tours and they'll tell you more or less the same thing I am. I'm not saying this to offend you, honest.

09-10-2012, 03:55 PM	#170
coldplaymom Coldplayer Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4,369 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 302 Thanked 416 Times in 227 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by fakfak;5433163 Actually, South America still isn't considered a real profit center in the touring industry. Although tickets are often expensive in the local currency, you have to factor in the exchange rate of the local money, to US $ or GPB or whatever. It's also far more expensive to freight all the gear to South America and then from county to country within (this also applies to some other regions like Australia.) and I've heard from people I know who work with tours that it's a lot harder to rent any backline equipment there, so most everything needs to be freighted. South America is an emerging market for live concerts, and in 10 or so years could well turn out to be an important region for touring, but honestly (and I don't mean this as offense to you guys who are from there. ), it's just not there yet. The trip to South Africa last year might as well have been a benefit concert

09-10-2012, 04:28 PM	#171
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by coldplaymom;5434072 The trip to South Africa last year might as well have been a benefit concert Well, that's probably going a bit too far. But it's worth pointing out that there are reasons that bands tend not to tour certain areas until they can fill massive venues.

12-10-2012, 05:30 AM	#172
Travis81 Travis81 Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 90 My Mood: Location: London Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 35 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by coldplaymom;5434072 The trip to South Africa last year might as well have been a benefit concert Sorry but what is the benefit??

15-10-2012, 11:12 AM	#173
DiOli05 Mrs. Berryman Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,103 My Mood: Location: Dahlonega, US Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 240 Thanked 250 Times in 173 Posts	There are rumors going about a concert in february in Costa Rica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wuuuuuaaaaaaaaaa I cannot go :/ :'( https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

15-10-2012, 11:38 PM	#174
Juanma In my Place Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 7,459 My Mood: Location: Uruguay Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts	No news.. Sad __________________ COLDPLAY LIVE BUENOS AIRES 26 FEB 2010 COLDPLAY LIVE RIO DE JANEIRO 28 FEB 2010 www.twitter.com/Coldplayvideo

16-10-2012, 05:12 AM	#175
JM-SP2 Life is for Living Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 586 My Mood: Location: There There Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 14 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	If by november's there's still nothing, I think is safe to say there won't be a tour.

17-10-2012, 12:23 AM	#176
DiOli05 Mrs. Berryman Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,103 My Mood: Location: Dahlonega, US Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 240 Thanked 250 Times in 173 Posts	Hey! so this entertainment company is Costa Rica is trying to make arrangements to bring Coldplay there. They are putting it up to a voting, apparently. I thought it would not hurt to ask you guys for help! The only thing you have to do is to like the very first comment in the photo, that says "COLDPLAY" I find it somewhat offensibe, maybe, that the other two are One Direction and Justin Bieber, but most of the people in my country are not far from dumb and they could win... voting closes on friday! so please vote!!! Coldplay has very little votes, so all the help we can get is welcome! Thank you guys! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

17-10-2012, 05:22 AM	#177
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by JM-SP2;5438055 If by november's there's still nothing, I think is safe to say there won't be a tour. It's not looking so likely at this point. At least not for February.

17-10-2012, 01:47 PM	#178
bosly1 Dark Horse Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 155 Location: East Sussex Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Travis81;5435703 Sorry but what is the benefit?? I agree with this as the concerts in South Africa last year were warm up shows for the Mylo Xyloto tour. I'm going to Cape town next month, I wonder if I wrote to Coldplay and asked them to come back there in November they would do so __________________ London O2 Arena - 15/12/08 London Emirates Stadium - 2/6/12

28-10-2012, 03:59 AM	#179
Travis81 Travis81 Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 90 My Mood: Location: London Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 35 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	So the Oracle has spoken: The Oracle: : Quote: Decisions are made and changed on a daily basis as to what happens next after a campaign is coming to an end. The natural thing to do is to take some time off but that has never yet been a year. The band may be out of sight to the public but that doesn't mean they aren't working in some way or another. After the Viva tour, the band returned for a Latin American leg. They finished 11th March 2010. They performed a couple of Crisis at Christmas gigs later that year and then re-emerged for live shows in June 2011 while continuing with the writing & recording process. So now I can sleeeeeppppp well.

29-10-2012, 04:46 PM	#180
JM-SP2 Life is for Living Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 586 My Mood: Location: There There Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 14 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	so today this news came to me as a shock: there's a rumor on Twitter that Coldplay MAY play in Lima on March. The thing is that the info is being handle by very few people who are involved in the concert scene here. Pretty hard to believe since Peru has never been in the rumored dates but well, there's nothing bad in having a little hope right?