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Unread 01-06-2012, 06:34 AM   #46
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Portland
Boise
Salt Lake City
Denver
Las Vegas
Sacramento
San Diego
Phoenix
Albuquerque
San Antonio or Austin
New Orleans
Oklahoma City
Birmingham, Alabama
Nashville / Memphis
Louisville
Cincinnati
Columbus
Cleveland
St. Louis
Indianapolis
Kansas City
Omaha
Des Moines
Milwaukee / East Troy-Alpine
Winnipeg
Pittsburgh
Buffalo
Albany / Saratoga Springs
Hartford
Scranton / Hershey
Charlottesville or Virginia Beach
Raleigh

These are all cities that have not been played yet that were played on the VLV or X&Y tours. I'm not saying they have to play all these cities, but they probably could do arena or amphitheater shows in most of these cities and sell a decent amount of tickets. Also, return visits to the following are possible:

DC/Baltimore area
Philly
NYC
Boston
Montreal
Toronto
Chicago
LA




Portland was one of the handful of cities they played on the first NA leg (unless you mean Portland Maine, but they've never played there)
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are you all fucking kidding me???
people would be dissapointed if they don do a SECOND LEG on the us/na ???
shut up!!!!
folks, you have an entire tour for just one country, ONE FUCKING Country! .. people complaing about the band not playing in THEIR OWN CITIES? and because they have to drive like one hour to go to one concert on another city "so far away".. shut up!!!!!!!
do you know how the fuck is living in south américa?
we have to wait like three years for having them playing ONE FUCKING SHOW in just one city!!! some people have to travel the whooooole country here in argentina to go to their show in Buenos Aires, and if you don't know, my country is BIG.
In 2012 I travelled for 7 hours to go there, and spent a lot of money in hotels and stuff ... just a milacre can bring the guys here on a extraordinary date like was Rio because they were playing festivals.

You guys complains a lot and you don't know how lucky you are!



sorry for my english i'm not even using a translator... and i'm angry -.-


ps: to be honest, an objective, I don't think there'll be a second leg for NA, I think they'll come here in march/april and maybe the should do south africa u.u
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^ I agree. It's way easier to travel around the US and Europe than traveling in some Latin American countries.
I've had the feeling that this is going to be a short tour (compared to the VLV one). I feel like next year they will only tour Latin America, and they tend to end all of their tours here (i'm not saying this is something that will never change).
It's weird that they haven't toured asia (or at least I don't think there has been rumors about it)



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are you all fucking kidding me???
people would be dissapointed if they don do a SECOND LEG on the us/na ???
shut up!!!!
folks, you have an entire tour for just one country, ONE FUCKING Country! .. people complaing about the band not playing in THEIR OWN CITIES? and because they have to drive like one hour to go to one concert on another city "so far away".. shut up!!!!!!!
do you know how the fuck is living in south américa?
we have to wait like three years for having them playing ONE FUCKING SHOW in just one city!!! some people have to travel the whooooole country here in argentina to go to their show in Buenos Aires, and if you don't know, my country is BIG.
In 2012 I travelled for 7 hours to go there, and spent a lot of money in hotels and stuff ... just a milacre can bring the guys here on a extraordinary date like was Rio because they were playing festivals.

You guys complains a lot and you don't know how lucky you are!



sorry for my english i'm not even using a translator... and i'm angry -.-


ps: to be honest, an objective, I don't think there'll be a second leg for NA, I think they'll come here in march/april and maybe the should do south africa u.u



Fair enough, but I would also point out that there are some regions of the US that are as big, or bigger as many other countries, so travel time may be comprable even if it doesn't seem so. Particularly for this tour, there are many people in the US who would have to travel a similar amount of time to what you mentioned in order to get to a show.
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are you all fucking kidding me???
people would be dissapointed if they don do a SECOND LEG on the us/na ???
shut up!!!!
folks, you have an entire tour for just one country, ONE FUCKING Country! .. people complaing about the band not playing in THEIR OWN CITIES? and because they have to drive like one hour to go to one concert on another city "so far away".. shut up!!!!!!!
do you know how the fuck is living in south américa?
we have to wait like three years for having them playing ONE FUCKING SHOW in just one city!!! some people have to travel the whooooole country here in argentina to go to their show in Buenos Aires, and if you don't know, my country is BIG.
In 2012 I travelled for 7 hours to go there, and spent a lot of money in hotels and stuff ... just a milacre can bring the guys here on a extraordinary date like was Rio because they were playing festivals.

You guys complains a lot and you don't know how lucky you are!



sorry for my english i'm not even using a translator... and i'm angry -.-


ps: to be honest, an objective, I don't think there'll be a second leg for NA, I think they'll come here in march/april and maybe the should do south africa u.u



Somebody is getting far too mad over absolutely nothing.

From a fiscal standpoint, it makes the most sense for the band to come back to the US. That's where all the money's at. There's no guarantee that Coldplay can sell out a stadium in most other countries. Even then, the infrastructure of the US makes it far easier to schedule dates with less costs than elsewhere.


Also, regarding an earlier post, while PopMart was not considered a commercial success, it's a well known fact that ZooTV nearly bankrupted U2. Bringing your own television station around the world is not cheap.
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Don't really get why people complain so much about bands touring the USA, everyone else does the same. With the band in the top of their game, they tend to just skip some "medium" markets and go for the big ones. Btw, Coldplay is not near to have an stadium tour in the USA (a la U2 or Paul McCartney, they're just not in that league).
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Don't really get why people complain so much about bands touring the USA, everyone else does the same. With the band in the top of their game, they tend to just skip some "medium" markets and go for the big ones. Btw, Coldplay is not near to have an stadium tour in the USA (a la U2 or Paul McCartney, they're just not in that league).



They absolutely could (and have) fill stadiums in the biggest markets. They played stadium gigs in LA and Toronto in 2009 (both of which sold out), and many of the amphitheater venues they've played can hold crowds comprable to some stadiums. I'd agree they probably couldn't sustain a full on stadium tour here, but they probably come closer than any act of their generation to being able to pull one off. The only bands that can really fill stadiums consistantly here are all veteran bands that have been performing for 30 or 40 years.
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Coldplay is definitely able to sustain a stadium tour. They certainly aren't able to pull off anything as massive as 360, but with their newest album full of hits, they would definitely be able to pull off a stadium tour. This is especially true since they had all those festival gigs to warm up. That's why many people found it surprising that they started in arenas before moving up to stadiums.
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Somebody is getting far too mad over absolutely nothing.

From a fiscal standpoint, it makes the most sense for the band to come back to the US. That's where all the money's at. There's no guarantee that Coldplay can sell out a stadium in most other countries. Even then, the infrastructure of the US makes it far easier to schedule dates with less costs than elsewhere.


Also, regarding an earlier post, while PopMart was not considered a commercial success, it's a well known fact that ZooTV nearly bankrupted U2. Bringing your own television station around the world is not cheap.



I'm sorry, but that's just not true. ZooTV made profit (though not much of one) Popmart lost a lot of money.

That said, both of these tours are generally considered a case of excess over profitability. ZooTV sold out almost everywhere it played, it was a commercial success, regardless of how much profit the band actually made from the shows. Popmart was decidely less successful, especially in North America where some of the shows drew as little as 15,000-20,000 people, but on the whole it was also a commercial success. In industry terms, being a commercial success means the shows are taking in money, especially if they are taking in capacity or near capacity crowds for their venues. The term has little, if any, connection to overall net profits which are effected by how much money is being put out on production.
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Coldplay is definitely able to sustain a stadium tour. They certainly aren't able to pull off anything as massive as 360, but with their newest album full of hits, they would definitely be able to pull off a stadium tour. This is especially true since they had all those festival gigs to warm up. That's why many people found it surprising that they started in arenas before moving up to stadiums.


I'm not sure about that, in some of the small to medium sized markets, their average draw is still under 10,000. Granted, many of those markets would be eliminated and consolidated in a stadium tour, but still...
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Has Coldplay ever played in Providence, RI before? We have a great arena here!
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Here are some figures from the VLV tour of cities they haven't visited yet. I'd say they probably won't be back to Hershey or Scranton, but all other cities seem to have fairly decent numbers.

Ottawa- 12,121 / 15,082
Denver- 11,656 / 11,656
Salt Lake City- 11,598 / 11,598
Phoenix- 13,257 / 13,257
Birmingham- 8,230 / 10,259
Virginia Beach- 15,877 / 20,055
Hartford 2009- 13,877 / 24,713
Hershey / Scranton consolidated- 11,582 / 25,770
Pittsburgh- 13,084 / 23,214
Buffalo- 12,481 / 21,193
Cincinnati- 15,375 / 20,383
Indianapolis- 19,825 / 24,680
Nashville- 13,835 / 13,835
New Orleans- 11,574 / 12,247
San Antonio- 13,152 / 13,152
Des Moines- 9,887 / 10,751
Omaha- 9,629 / 10,636
Winnipeg- 12,619 / 12,619
Sacramento- 13,339 / 18,500
San Diego- 19,588 / 19,588
East Troy- Drawing from Chicago, Milwaukee and Madison- 27,123 / 34,883
Saratoga Springs, NY- 15,200 / 25,277
Raleigh- 19,422 / 19,422

I'd say for the most part these cities warrant a return visit, perhaps consolidating Omaha/Des Moines into one show. Coldplay could not play stadiums in the US outside of NYC, Boston, Philly, Chicago, LA and possibly Washington D.C. and San Francisco. They're very popular here, but stadium concerts are nowhere near the norm in the US. Only the biggest of the big play them. U2, Paul McCartney, Bruce, Rolling Stones, etc.
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Has Coldplay ever played in Providence, RI before? We have a great arena here!


They did play there as part of a radio station Christmas festival during the Parachutes tour. Other than that, no they haven't.
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are you all fucking kidding me???
people would be dissapointed if they don do a SECOND LEG on the us/na ???
shut up!!!!
folks, you have an entire tour for just one country, ONE FUCKING Country! .. people complaing about the band not playing in THEIR OWN CITIES? and because they have to drive like one hour to go to one concert on another city "so far away".. shut up!!!!!!!
do you know how the fuck is living in south américa?
we have to wait like three years for having them playing ONE FUCKING SHOW in just one city!!! some people have to travel the whooooole country here in argentina to go to their show in Buenos Aires, and if you don't know, my country is BIG.
In 2012 I travelled for 7 hours to go there, and spent a lot of money in hotels and stuff ... just a milacre can bring the guys here on a extraordinary date like was Rio because they were playing festivals.

You guys complains a lot and you don't know how lucky you are!



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ps: to be honest, an objective, I don't think there'll be a second leg for NA, I think they'll come here in march/april and maybe the should do south africa u.u



I agree with everything you said, if they make gigs on the same cities again I'll have to travel to either São Paulo (837 Km), Rio de Janeiro (1109 Km) or get out of my country and go to Buenos Aires (843 Km), that's annoying, they go to some quite small cities on the US, this year the only one with more than 1 million habitants was LA while in Porto Alegre (where I live) we are 1.5 million!!! IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I think they should do an arena tour this time on South America so more cities could have them playing instead of playing stadiums in 1 or 2 cities for country.
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I agree with everything you said, if they make gigs on the same cities again I'll have to travel to either São Paulo (837 Km), Rio de Janeiro (1109 Km) or get out of my country and go to Buenos Aires (843 Km), that's annoying, they go to some quite small cities on the US, this year the only one with more than 1 million habitants was LA while in Porto Alegre (where I live) we are 1.5 million!!! IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I think they should do an arena tour this time on South America so more cities could have them playing instead of playing stadiums in 1 or 2 cities for country.



In industry terms though, South America is not a major concert market, period. There are a variety of reasons for this, but at the end of the day, the reason things are done the way they are, is that they make sense from a commercial aspect.
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