Ticket Scam Hollywood Bowl Show

Violin8 · 07-05-2012, 01:11 AM

I was scammed on tickets for the Hollywood Bowl show on Friday. I was provided with hard tickets that looked totally legitimate but when I got to the gate and they were scanned, they came up invalid. Apparently this guy prints these fake tickets on ticketmaster cardstock. I was actually able to obtain info on this guy who apparently has a ring of people and who has a long history of fraud and has been doing this for years. There is a detective who has been following up on this guy for a couple years. I plan on filing a police report. If you were scammed, hit me up and I can send you a photo and additional info on this guy and hopefully we can get some justice.

Black Rose · 07-05-2012, 08:43 PM

It's the same with dodgy sellers selling the same e-ticket over and over again. First person is all fine and dandy, 2nd+ person whom tries it gets turned away for having a bar-code which has been used before.

I hope you get something back from your money paid out

ms1388 · 07-05-2012, 11:18 PM

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/f...ice-lopez.html

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoasts...d_fan_says.php

mmb064 · 08-05-2012, 03:10 AM

Holding my breath for tickets for the Toronto show that we bought through StubHub. (I'd have used the official Ticketmaster site, but I couldn't get four tickets together on a lower level.) StubHub does have a guarantee, so I would get most of my money back ... but that's the least of my worries. If I get there (7 hours from home) and can't get in, I know I will be a crying mess ... in front of my children.

fakfak · 08-05-2012, 03:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmb064;5293873
Holding my breath for tickets for the Toronto show that we bought through StubHub. (I'd have used the official Ticketmaster site, but I couldn't get four tickets together on a lower level.) StubHub does have a guarantee, so I would get most of my money back ... but that's the least of my worries. If I get there (7 hours from home) and can't get in, I know I will be a crying mess ... in front of my children.

StubHub is pretty much the safest of all the secondary ticket outlets, so you're probably ok.

Atalanta · 08-05-2012, 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmb064;5293873
Holding my breath for tickets for the Toronto show that we bought through StubHub. (I'd have used the official Ticketmaster site, but I couldn't get four tickets together on a lower level.) StubHub does have a guarantee, so I would get most of my money back ... but that's the least of my worries. If I get there (7 hours from home) and can't get in, I know I will be a crying mess ... in front of my children.

fak fak is right...you chose pretty much the best secondary seller.

You can check out your tickets, you know. Find any local Ticketmaster outlet, go in sometime when they are not terribly busy, and just ask them to scan the tickets for you.

I have sold extra tickets on StubHub over the years & they are very strict with sellers. They have seller's credit card, home address, etc. And the seller agreement is full of legal provisions that boil down to legal liability for any sellers trying anything out of line. The message is they expect sellers to be accurate and responsible--StubHub penalizes sellers for legal but annoying infractions like sending out tickets later than promised. I like selling there because it is less scary than talking to strangers and arranging meetings. And I've often bought tickets on StubHub--for the same reasons--and never had a problem with a ticket.

Craigslist is not so scary for selling Coldplay tickets, because Coldplay fans are so nice. I sold some tickets for this tour, and talked several times with my buyer so we could each be sure of each other, made sure they had my REAL name and my REAL phone number and even told them which night I was going to be at the concert and even what seats! Real buyers were clearly real fans (I had inquiries from obvious jerks that were probably working for one of the shadier resellers). And I made sure that they knew I was a real fan, too. I also found out that if you do a craigslist purchase and both parties are "Verified" on Paypal, both people get some protections through PayPal. (When you're "verified", PayPal has all that personal info that StubHub has, and so can "follow through" if there are problems at either end.) I've also sold on craigslist to teens--they were smart and brought a parent when we met. Don't let teens do "meet-up" purchases alone and make sure if they do online payments it's with something that has some security, like StubHub or verified paypal.

And if you totally end up buying tickets last-minute at the place--make the seller go to the ticket check-in with you! Learned that from friends who go to sporting events a lot.

mmb064 · 08-05-2012, 01:53 PM

Thanks, all. That's all good to know and makes me feel a little better. And I certainly will heed your advice if we do end up buying tickets at the venue!! 77 days and counting!

fakfak · 09-05-2012, 06:55 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atalanta;5293950
fak fak is right...you chose pretty much the best secondary seller.

You can check out your tickets, you know. Find any local Ticketmaster outlet, go in sometime when they are not terribly busy, and just ask them to scan the tickets for you.

I have sold extra tickets on StubHub over the years & they are very strict with sellers. They have seller's credit card, home address, etc. And the seller agreement is full of legal provisions that boil down to legal liability for any sellers trying anything out of line. The message is they expect sellers to be accurate and responsible--StubHub penalizes sellers for legal but annoying infractions like sending out tickets later than promised. I like selling there because it is less scary than talking to strangers and arranging meetings. And I've often bought tickets on StubHub--for the same reasons--and never had a problem with a ticket.

Craigslist is not so scary for selling Coldplay tickets, because Coldplay fans are so nice. I sold some tickets for this tour, and talked several times with my buyer so we could each be sure of each other, made sure they had my REAL name and my REAL phone number and even told them which night I was going to be at the concert and even what seats! Real buyers were clearly real fans (I had inquiries from obvious jerks that were probably working for one of the shadier resellers). And I made sure that they knew I was a real fan, too. I also found out that if you do a craigslist purchase and both parties are "Verified" on Paypal, both people get some protections through PayPal. (When you're "verified", PayPal has all that personal info that StubHub has, and so can "follow through" if there are problems at either end.) I've also sold on craigslist to teens--they were smart and brought a parent when we met. Don't let teens do "meet-up" purchases alone and make sure if they do online payments it's with something that has some security, like StubHub or verified paypal.

And if you totally end up buying tickets last-minute at the place--make the seller go to the ticket check-in with you! Learned that from friends who go to sporting events a lot.

Personally, I wouldn't ever buy secondary market tickets from any venue that doesn't guarantee their sellers are legit. Craigslist is full of bogus tickets (and other stuff for that matter). Any reputable re-seller will sell through a legit service like StubHub because it's to the benefit of their bussiness to have a third party verify their authenticity.

parisienne · 09-05-2012, 04:12 PM

I recently bought some tickets (not Coldplay) from StubHub too bc the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster and I would be absolutely devastated if they turned out to be fake, even if I do get my money back.

The whole concert ticket industry is so messed up, fans shouldn't have to resort to secondary sellers to buy tickets b/c tickets on Ticketmaster get sold out in seconds. I've literally tried during 5 different presales/sales/dates for this one music group I'm trying to see, and every time I've searched for tickets at the exact time sales opened up and came up with nothing. There's got to an easier way....

fakfak · 09-05-2012, 07:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by parisienne;5294744
I recently bought some tickets (not Coldplay) from StubHub too bc the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster and I would be absolutely devastated if they turned out to be fake, even if I do get my money back.

The whole concert ticket industry is so messed up, fans shouldn't have to resort to secondary sellers to buy tickets b/c tickets on Ticketmaster get sold out in seconds. I've literally tried during 5 different presales/sales/dates for this one music group I'm trying to see, and every time I've searched for tickets at the exact time sales opened up and came up with nothing. There's got to an easier way....

The problem is all the "better" ways are either logistical nightmares (will-call only tickets), or limit accesability to fans as well as touts (box office only sales etc.) As long as there's a market for secondary tickets at huge mark-up, there will always be people willing to meet that demand. There's just too much money on the table.

LFDianne · 09-05-2012, 10:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fakfak;5294856
The problem is all the "better" ways are either logistical nightmares (will-call only tickets), or limit accesability to fans as well as touts (box office only sales etc.) As long as there's a market for secondary tickets at huge mark-up, there will always be people willing to meet that demand. There's just too much money on the table.

I've been to several shows that utilize paperless tickets. You must present the credit card you used to purchase the tickets, the card is scanned and you are issued your tickets on the spot. It's worked very well for those shows. If you purchase 4 tickets, all 4 people must be together to enter. Springsteen is one major artist who is doing this right now.

fakfak · 09-05-2012, 11:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by LFDianne;5294978
I've been to several shows that utilize paperless tickets. You must present the credit card you used to purchase the tickets, the card is scanned and you are issued your tickets on the spot. It's worked very well for those shows. If you purchase 4 tickets, all 4 people must be together to enter. Springsteen is one major artist who is doing this right now.

It does work, but it's not without it's own (sometimes major) problems. Depending on the size of the show, it can be very difficult to process 10-20,000 paperless tickets efficiently and get everyone into the venue on time. There are also issues with things like people who want to buy tickets as legitimate gifts to others etc. It's a very good idea, but the actual mechanics needed to execute it well are often currently lacking. In fact, I believe Springsteen (who is probably the biggest single supporter of this system right now) has actually had to invest in providing the infrastructure needed to support it in many places.

thatcoolguynamedreid · 10-05-2012, 03:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fakfak;5295017
It does work, but it's not without it's own (sometimes major) problems. Depending on the size of the show, it can be very difficult to process 10-20,000 paperless tickets efficiently and get everyone into the venue on time. There are also issues with things like people who want to buy tickets as legitimate gifts to others etc. It's a very good idea, but the actual mechanics needed to execute it well are often currently lacking. In fact, I believe Springsteen (who is probably the biggest single supporter of this system right now) has actually had to invest in providing the infrastructure needed to support it in many places.

I personally saw Radiohead just in april in seattle and the ticketless ticketing method worked perfectly, 20000+ no hassle. My brother and i just took my dads credit card for the evening and entered, it was just like having a ticket. This is something coldplay should start doing. Radiohead sold out all of their shows in 20min or less, the seattle one sold out in the matter of a few minutes. coldplay shows could still sell out just as quickly, but instead of those tickets going to scalpers and cheap sakes trying to get money, they'd go to true fans, just as it should be!

Corkus · 10-05-2012, 04:31 AM

The paperless ticket method actually has many flaws. For one, prepaid cards are scalped as tickets instead. It's an extra step for the scalper, but that didn't stop hundreds and hundreds of Radiohead tickets PER SHOW being sold through 3rd parties.

Second, if you're suddenly not able to make the show (because let's be honest, that happens to most of us every now and then), you're completely screwed.

And will call works for smaller shows, but not arenas, so the paperless ticket concept still needs to be refined a lot.

fakfak · 10-05-2012, 05:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thatcoolguynamedreid;5295133
I personally saw Radiohead just in april in seattle and the ticketless ticketing method worked perfectly, 20000+ no hassle. My brother and i just took my dads credit card for the evening and entered, it was just like having a ticket. This is something coldplay should start doing. Radiohead sold out all of their shows in 20min or less, the seattle one sold out in the matter of a few minutes. coldplay shows could still sell out just as quickly, but instead of those tickets going to scalpers and cheap sakes trying to get money, they'd go to true fans, just as it should be!

That's as may be, but none of what you wrote there really addresses the issues I have with the current state of paperless ticketing. It still is dependent on a venue that has both the infrastructure and trained staff to process the audience in a timely fashion, makes it difficult (if not impossible) to conduct legitimate transfers of tickets, and generally has the potential to create a lot of hassle for the people it's supposed to benefit. Like I said, a good idea, just not ready for prime time quite yet.

07-05-2012, 01:11 AM	#1
Violin8 Coldplayer Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ticket Scam Hollywood Bowl Show I was scammed on tickets for the Hollywood Bowl show on Friday. I was provided with hard tickets that looked totally legitimate but when I got to the gate and they were scanned, they came up invalid. Apparently this guy prints these fake tickets on ticketmaster cardstock. I was actually able to obtain info on this guy who apparently has a ring of people and who has a long history of fraud and has been doing this for years. There is a detective who has been following up on this guy for a couple years. I plan on filing a police report. If you were scammed, hit me up and I can send you a photo and additional info on this guy and hopefully we can get some justice.

07-05-2012, 08:43 PM	#2
Black Rose Bear with me Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 47,531 My Mood: Location: A strangeland under the iron sea where hopes & fears can make the night train be in perfect symmetry Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 105 Times in 83 Posts	It's the same with dodgy sellers selling the same e-ticket over and over again. First person is all fine and dandy, 2nd+ person whom tries it gets turned away for having a bar-code which has been used before. I hope you get something back from your money paid out __________________ You could take a picture of something you see In the future where will I be? You could climb a ladder up to the sun Or write a song nobody had sung Or do something that's never been done

08-05-2012, 03:10 AM	#4
mmb064 Coldplayer Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 22 My Mood: Location: Pennsylvania Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 1 Post	Holding my breath for tickets for the Toronto show that we bought through StubHub. (I'd have used the official Ticketmaster site, but I couldn't get four tickets together on a lower level.) StubHub does have a guarantee, so I would get most of my money back ... but that's the least of my worries. If I get there (7 hours from home) and can't get in, I know I will be a crying mess ... in front of my children. __________________ "I know the sun must set to rise." ---------- 24 May 2009 Hershey PA / 03 August 2009 Mansfield MA / 23 July 2012 Toronto ON

08-05-2012, 03:57 AM	#5
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by mmb064;5293873 Holding my breath for tickets for the Toronto show that we bought through StubHub. (I'd have used the official Ticketmaster site, but I couldn't get four tickets together on a lower level.) StubHub does have a guarantee, so I would get most of my money back ... but that's the least of my worries. If I get there (7 hours from home) and can't get in, I know I will be a crying mess ... in front of my children. StubHub is pretty much the safest of all the secondary ticket outlets, so you're probably ok.

08-05-2012, 10:46 AM	#6
Atalanta Coldplayer Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by mmb064;5293873 Holding my breath for tickets for the Toronto show that we bought through StubHub. (I'd have used the official Ticketmaster site, but I couldn't get four tickets together on a lower level.) StubHub does have a guarantee, so I would get most of my money back ... but that's the least of my worries. If I get there (7 hours from home) and can't get in, I know I will be a crying mess ... in front of my children. fak fak is right...you chose pretty much the best secondary seller. You can check out your tickets, you know. Find any local Ticketmaster outlet, go in sometime when they are not terribly busy, and just ask them to scan the tickets for you. I have sold extra tickets on StubHub over the years & they are very strict with sellers. They have seller's credit card, home address, etc. And the seller agreement is full of legal provisions that boil down to legal liability for any sellers trying anything out of line. The message is they expect sellers to be accurate and responsible--StubHub penalizes sellers for legal but annoying infractions like sending out tickets later than promised. I like selling there because it is less scary than talking to strangers and arranging meetings. And I've often bought tickets on StubHub--for the same reasons--and never had a problem with a ticket. Craigslist is not so scary for selling Coldplay tickets, because Coldplay fans are so nice. I sold some tickets for this tour, and talked several times with my buyer so we could each be sure of each other, made sure they had my REAL name and my REAL phone number and even told them which night I was going to be at the concert and even what seats! Real buyers were clearly real fans (I had inquiries from obvious jerks that were probably working for one of the shadier resellers). And I made sure that they knew I was a real fan, too. I also found out that if you do a craigslist purchase and both parties are "Verified" on Paypal, both people get some protections through PayPal. (When you're "verified", PayPal has all that personal info that StubHub has, and so can "follow through" if there are problems at either end.) I've also sold on craigslist to teens--they were smart and brought a parent when we met. Don't let teens do "meet-up" purchases alone and make sure if they do online payments it's with something that has some security, like StubHub or verified paypal. And if you totally end up buying tickets last-minute at the place--make the seller go to the ticket check-in with you! Learned that from friends who go to sporting events a lot.

07-05-2012, 11:18 PM	#3
ms1388 Coldplayer Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.ocregister.com/articles/f...ice-lopez.html http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoasts...d_fan_says.php

08-05-2012, 01:53 PM	#7
mmb064 Coldplayer Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 22 My Mood: Location: Pennsylvania Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 1 Post	Thanks, all. That's all good to know and makes me feel a little better. And I certainly will heed your advice if we do end up buying tickets at the venue!! 77 days and counting! __________________ "I know the sun must set to rise." ---------- 24 May 2009 Hershey PA / 03 August 2009 Mansfield MA / 23 July 2012 Toronto ON

09-05-2012, 06:55 AM	#8
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Atalanta;5293950 fak fak is right...you chose pretty much the best secondary seller. You can check out your tickets, you know. Find any local Ticketmaster outlet, go in sometime when they are not terribly busy, and just ask them to scan the tickets for you. I have sold extra tickets on StubHub over the years & they are very strict with sellers. They have seller's credit card, home address, etc. And the seller agreement is full of legal provisions that boil down to legal liability for any sellers trying anything out of line. The message is they expect sellers to be accurate and responsible--StubHub penalizes sellers for legal but annoying infractions like sending out tickets later than promised. I like selling there because it is less scary than talking to strangers and arranging meetings. And I've often bought tickets on StubHub--for the same reasons--and never had a problem with a ticket. Craigslist is not so scary for selling Coldplay tickets, because Coldplay fans are so nice. I sold some tickets for this tour, and talked several times with my buyer so we could each be sure of each other, made sure they had my REAL name and my REAL phone number and even told them which night I was going to be at the concert and even what seats! Real buyers were clearly real fans (I had inquiries from obvious jerks that were probably working for one of the shadier resellers). And I made sure that they knew I was a real fan, too. I also found out that if you do a craigslist purchase and both parties are "Verified" on Paypal, both people get some protections through PayPal. (When you're "verified", PayPal has all that personal info that StubHub has, and so can "follow through" if there are problems at either end.) I've also sold on craigslist to teens--they were smart and brought a parent when we met. Don't let teens do "meet-up" purchases alone and make sure if they do online payments it's with something that has some security, like StubHub or verified paypal. And if you totally end up buying tickets last-minute at the place--make the seller go to the ticket check-in with you! Learned that from friends who go to sporting events a lot. Personally, I wouldn't ever buy secondary market tickets from any venue that doesn't guarantee their sellers are legit. Craigslist is full of bogus tickets (and other stuff for that matter). Any reputable re-seller will sell through a legit service like StubHub because it's to the benefit of their bussiness to have a third party verify their authenticity.

09-05-2012, 04:12 PM	#9
parisienne Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 55 My Mood: Location: Berryfarm Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I recently bought some tickets (not Coldplay) from StubHub too bc the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster and I would be absolutely devastated if they turned out to be fake, even if I do get my money back. The whole concert ticket industry is so messed up, fans shouldn't have to resort to secondary sellers to buy tickets b/c tickets on Ticketmaster get sold out in seconds. I've literally tried during 5 different presales/sales/dates for this one music group I'm trying to see, and every time I've searched for tickets at the exact time sales opened up and came up with nothing. There's got to an easier way....

09-05-2012, 07:51 PM	#10
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by parisienne;5294744 I recently bought some tickets (not Coldplay) from StubHub too bc the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster and I would be absolutely devastated if they turned out to be fake, even if I do get my money back. The whole concert ticket industry is so messed up, fans shouldn't have to resort to secondary sellers to buy tickets b/c tickets on Ticketmaster get sold out in seconds. I've literally tried during 5 different presales/sales/dates for this one music group I'm trying to see, and every time I've searched for tickets at the exact time sales opened up and came up with nothing. There's got to an easier way.... The problem is all the "better" ways are either logistical nightmares (will-call only tickets), or limit accesability to fans as well as touts (box office only sales etc.) As long as there's a market for secondary tickets at huge mark-up, there will always be people willing to meet that demand. There's just too much money on the table.

09-05-2012, 10:31 PM	#11
LFDianne Biggest Will Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,813 My Mood: Location: Standing next to Will at KROQ, Los Angeles Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 25 Thanked 260 Times in 93 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by fakfak;5294856 The problem is all the "better" ways are either logistical nightmares (will-call only tickets), or limit accesability to fans as well as touts (box office only sales etc.) As long as there's a market for secondary tickets at huge mark-up, there will always be people willing to meet that demand. There's just too much money on the table. I've been to several shows that utilize paperless tickets. You must present the credit card you used to purchase the tickets, the card is scanned and you are issued your tickets on the spot. It's worked very well for those shows. If you purchase 4 tickets, all 4 people must be together to enter. Springsteen is one major artist who is doing this right now. __________________ Dianne 08/20/05 Irvine 2/06/06 Anaheim 7/14/08 Inglewood 11/25/08 Anaheim 7/18/09 Carson 07/19/09 Irvine 8/3/11 UCLA 9/15/11 Austin City Limits Taping 9/16/11 Austin City Limits Festival 10/17/11 the ellen show taping 10/18/11 KROQ studio, LA 2/8/12 Club Nokia 2/9/12 Jimmy Kimmel 4/28/12 San Jose 5/1/12 Hollywood Bowl 5/2/12 Hollywood Bow 5/3/12 American Idol Taping 5/4/12 Hollywood Bowl 5/5/12 KROQ Weenie Roast 6/28/12 Tampa 6/29/12 Miami 12/30/12 BROOKLYN, NY!!!

09-05-2012, 11:20 PM	#12
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by LFDianne;5294978 I've been to several shows that utilize paperless tickets. You must present the credit card you used to purchase the tickets, the card is scanned and you are issued your tickets on the spot. It's worked very well for those shows. If you purchase 4 tickets, all 4 people must be together to enter. Springsteen is one major artist who is doing this right now. It does work, but it's not without it's own (sometimes major) problems. Depending on the size of the show, it can be very difficult to process 10-20,000 paperless tickets efficiently and get everyone into the venue on time. There are also issues with things like people who want to buy tickets as legitimate gifts to others etc. It's a very good idea, but the actual mechanics needed to execute it well are often currently lacking. In fact, I believe Springsteen (who is probably the biggest single supporter of this system right now) has actually had to invest in providing the infrastructure needed to support it in many places.

10-05-2012, 03:57 AM	#13
thatcoolguynamedreid Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5 My Mood: Location: Salem OR Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ticketless tickets Quote: Originally Posted by fakfak;5295017 It does work, but it's not without it's own (sometimes major) problems. Depending on the size of the show, it can be very difficult to process 10-20,000 paperless tickets efficiently and get everyone into the venue on time. There are also issues with things like people who want to buy tickets as legitimate gifts to others etc. It's a very good idea, but the actual mechanics needed to execute it well are often currently lacking. In fact, I believe Springsteen (who is probably the biggest single supporter of this system right now) has actually had to invest in providing the infrastructure needed to support it in many places. I personally saw Radiohead just in april in seattle and the ticketless ticketing method worked perfectly, 20000+ no hassle. My brother and i just took my dads credit card for the evening and entered, it was just like having a ticket. This is something coldplay should start doing. Radiohead sold out all of their shows in 20min or less, the seattle one sold out in the matter of a few minutes. coldplay shows could still sell out just as quickly, but instead of those tickets going to scalpers and cheap sakes trying to get money, they'd go to true fans, just as it should be!

10-05-2012, 04:31 AM	#14
Corkus Pretentious Tool Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,507 My Mood: Location: Smoggy SoCal Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 25 Thanked 95 Times in 56 Posts	The paperless ticket method actually has many flaws. For one, prepaid cards are scalped as tickets instead. It's an extra step for the scalper, but that didn't stop hundreds and hundreds of Radiohead tickets PER SHOW being sold through 3rd parties. Second, if you're suddenly not able to make the show (because let's be honest, that happens to most of us every now and then), you're completely screwed. And will call works for smaller shows, but not arenas, so the paperless ticket concept still needs to be refined a lot.

10-05-2012, 05:06 AM	#15
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by thatcoolguynamedreid;5295133 I personally saw Radiohead just in april in seattle and the ticketless ticketing method worked perfectly, 20000+ no hassle. My brother and i just took my dads credit card for the evening and entered, it was just like having a ticket. This is something coldplay should start doing. Radiohead sold out all of their shows in 20min or less, the seattle one sold out in the matter of a few minutes. coldplay shows could still sell out just as quickly, but instead of those tickets going to scalpers and cheap sakes trying to get money, they'd go to true fans, just as it should be! That's as may be, but none of what you wrote there really addresses the issues I have with the current state of paperless ticketing. It still is dependent on a venue that has both the infrastructure and trained staff to process the audience in a timely fashion, makes it difficult (if not impossible) to conduct legitimate transfers of tickets, and generally has the potential to create a lot of hassle for the people it's supposed to benefit. Like I said, a good idea, just not ready for prime time quite yet.