Serbian candidate for Eurosong accused of plagiarizing "Paradise"

lndnsky · 11-03-2012, 12:16 PM

God knows how I'm not the biggest fan of this song, but a friend just sent me something over FB.

Its Serbian candidate for Eurosong and some media have accused him of plagiarism. At around 0:20min his song reaaaally starts sounding like the intro to "Paradise".

See for yourself.

Zeljko Joksimovic - Synonym ESC SERBIA 2012 English Version - YouTube

edit there's an article but its in Croatian so I don't think anyone would understand it. But here you go. http://www.index.hr/xmag/clanak/vide...ya/603696.aspx

Juanma · 11-03-2012, 01:31 PM

Its Just a second

The song does not sound like paradise at all

Coeurli · 11-03-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Juanma;5250578
Its Just a second
The song does not sound like paradise at all

But it would have been Coldplay with another band's song, I'm sure there would have been a huge polemic...But I guess we can't compare Coldplay to that guy...

Prospector · 11-03-2012, 02:01 PM

The 2 sogs go to completely different places, the intro is simmilar, but not enough to say plagirism in my opinion.

lifeincoldplaycolor · 11-03-2012, 02:02 PM

oh yes but its really just a fraction of a second too bad Moldova has crap songs this year in my country here there is corruption even in the jury

Nikola · 11-03-2012, 02:26 PM

It does sound like Paradise, not only at that moment, the melody appears multiple times.
I wouldn't call it plagiarism though because it's a fairly simple motif, but I'd say that he definitely got inspiration from Paradise.
I'm glad Coldplay is getting some extra exposure, even if it's this way.

lndnsky · 11-03-2012, 03:43 PM

My personal opinion is that he is so very insegnificant to the world to even bother. But the media here is full of the resemblance between the two.

As Nikola said, Coldplay is getting some extra exposure in our part of the world, which is good.

rafaelchampion · 11-03-2012, 04:06 PM

It's just a sequence of notes. No one can own like "do re mi fa" (C - D - E - F).

Nikola · 11-03-2012, 04:27 PM

It's fascinating tho that no one compared Paradise and, say Charlie Brown, to some older songs.
Such simple little melodies but apparently nobody used them before...

robbery · 12-03-2012, 11:38 PM

this is not the first time that Serbia sends a stolen song in eurovision. The time when Serbia won the eurovision that song was completely stolen from an albanian song.

Nikola · 12-03-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by robbery;5252039
this is not the first time that Serbia sends a stolen song in eurovision. The time when Serbia won the eurovision that song was completely stolen from an albanian song.

What the fuck are you talking about?

robbery · 12-03-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikola;5252045
What the fuck are you talking about?

Here is the link ..you can find better links yourself i am not the one saying this this was officially true

Serbia Eurovision Song Was Stolen From An Albanian Singer - YouTube

And even the song lane moje or what is the title of that song that serbia got second place was stolen to ..typical serbians

Nikola · 12-03-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by robbery;5252057
Serbia Eurovision Song Was Stolen From An Albanian Singer - YouTube

First of all, I don't care about this stupid contest, and this has nothing to do with Coldplay. But these songs don't sound similar at all. They are the same type of song, but the melodies are not similar one bit. And this is the first time I've heard about this. Surely it would have been a huge scandal since our representative won the contest, but no one ever said anything about that albanian song. Also, no one ever said that the other song was a rip off. So please stop lying. You're probably albanian and this accusation has a political connotation. I don't want to get into this any further since I don't care about politics and this is not the place for this conversation.

robbery · 13-03-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikola;5252073
First of all, I don't care about this stupid contest, and this has nothing to do with Coldplay. But these songs don't sound similar at all. They are the same type of song, but the melodies are not similar one bit. And this is the first time I've heard about this. Surely it would have been a huge scandal since our representative won the contest, but no one ever said anything about that albanian song. Also, no one ever said that the other song was a rip off. So please stop lying. You're probably albanian and this accusation has a political connotation. I don't want to get into this any further since I don't care about politics and this is not the place for this conversation.

First of all you must open ur ears and listen to it well. The singing line is almost 100% the same..and it was a huge scandal but of course they would hide it over there in Serbia...and it even went to court ..and i don't need to lie . Let me guess u are serbian right ? haaha i know it hurts to hear this but the truth is the truth. But i do agree with you eurovision SUCKS

Nikola · 13-03-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by robbery;5252083
First of all you must open ur ears and listen to it well. The singing line is almost 100% the same..and it was a huge scandal but of course they would hide it over there in Serbia...and it even went to court ..and i don't need to lie . Let me guess u are serbian right ? haaha i know it hurts to hear this but the truth is the truth. But i do agree with you eurovision SUCKS

When I head this year's song, I immediately thought of Paradise. If I thought that those songs sound similar, I would admit it, no problem, but I don't. Just the first word sounds similar, and that's it. You've gotta listen to the entire song, it has a lot more to it than just the chorus. And it wasn't "hidden". LOL. How could it be hidden with the internet and everything...

11-03-2012, 01:31 PM	#2
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Coeurli It's pronounced Curly Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 13,839 Location: 136 Low Street, The Little Apple. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1,870 Thanked 1,492 Times in 847 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Juanma;5250578 Its Just a second The song does not sound like paradise at all But it would have been Coldplay with another band's song, I'm sure there would have been a huge polemic...But I guess we can't compare Coldplay to that guy... __________________ A dazzled Coldplay fan. Also known as R Célly, or Nikola's PR. COLDPLAY: "Four very attractive young men playing the sexiest music ever created that will melt both your heart and your brain at the same time." "We're a punk band, you know that" - CM Stade de France, Paris, 2.09.2012 The night I had eye-sex twice with The Martin

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Prospector Rafael Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,110 Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brasil Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 205 Thanked 181 Times in 130 Posts	The 2 sogs go to completely different places, the intro is simmilar, but not enough to say plagirism in my opinion. __________________ South American Ambassador 2012

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lndnsky = London Sky Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,580 My Mood: Location: Poppyfields Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 28 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	My personal opinion is that he is so very insegnificant to the world to even bother. But the media here is full of the resemblance between the two. As Nikola said, Coldplay is getting some extra exposure in our part of the world, which is good. __________________

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rafaelchampion Shhhhhhhhhhhhh Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,989 My Mood: Location: Silencia Gender: Fav. CP album: VLVODAAHF Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 29 Thanked 111 Times in 43 Posts	It's just a sequence of notes. No one can own like "do re mi fa" (C - D - E - F). __________________ Mylo Xyloto army

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lifeincoldplaycolor Coldplayer Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 288 My Mood: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	oh yes but its really just a fraction of a second too bad Moldova has crap songs this year in my country here there is corruption even in the jury

11-03-2012, 02:26 PM	#6
Nikola Coldplayer Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,276 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 33 Posts	It does sound like Paradise, not only at that moment, the melody appears multiple times. I wouldn't call it plagiarism though because it's a fairly simple motif, but I'd say that he definitely got inspiration from Paradise. I'm glad Coldplay is getting some extra exposure, even if it's this way.

11-03-2012, 04:27 PM	#9
Nikola Coldplayer Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,276 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 33 Posts	It's fascinating tho that no one compared Paradise and, say Charlie Brown, to some older songs. Such simple little melodies but apparently nobody used them before...

12-03-2012, 11:38 PM	#10
robbery Coldplayer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 37 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	this is not the first time that Serbia sends a stolen song in eurovision. The time when Serbia won the eurovision that song was completely stolen from an albanian song.

12-03-2012, 11:40 PM	#11
Nikola Coldplayer Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,276 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 33 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by robbery;5252039 this is not the first time that Serbia sends a stolen song in eurovision. The time when Serbia won the eurovision that song was completely stolen from an albanian song. What the fuck are you talking about?

12-03-2012, 11:55 PM	#13
Nikola Coldplayer Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,276 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 33 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by robbery;5252057 Serbia Eurovision Song Was Stolen From An Albanian Singer - YouTube First of all, I don't care about this stupid contest, and this has nothing to do with Coldplay. But these songs don't sound similar at all. They are the same type of song, but the melodies are not similar one bit. And this is the first time I've heard about this. Surely it would have been a huge scandal since our representative won the contest, but no one ever said anything about that albanian song. Also, no one ever said that the other song was a rip off. So please stop lying. You're probably albanian and this accusation has a political connotation. I don't want to get into this any further since I don't care about politics and this is not the place for this conversation.

13-03-2012, 12:00 AM	#14
robbery Coldplayer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 37 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Nikola;5252073 First of all, I don't care about this stupid contest, and this has nothing to do with Coldplay. But these songs don't sound similar at all. They are the same type of song, but the melodies are not similar one bit. And this is the first time I've heard about this. Surely it would have been a huge scandal since our representative won the contest, but no one ever said anything about that albanian song. Also, no one ever said that the other song was a rip off. So please stop lying. You're probably albanian and this accusation has a political connotation. I don't want to get into this any further since I don't care about politics and this is not the place for this conversation. First of all you must open ur ears and listen to it well. The singing line is almost 100% the same..and it was a huge scandal but of course they would hide it over there in Serbia...and it even went to court ..and i don't need to lie . Let me guess u are serbian right ? haaha i know it hurts to hear this but the truth is the truth. But i do agree with you eurovision SUCKS

13-03-2012, 12:09 AM	#15
Nikola Coldplayer Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,276 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 33 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by robbery;5252083 First of all you must open ur ears and listen to it well. The singing line is almost 100% the same..and it was a huge scandal but of course they would hide it over there in Serbia...and it even went to court ..and i don't need to lie . Let me guess u are serbian right ? haaha i know it hurts to hear this but the truth is the truth. But i do agree with you eurovision SUCKS When I head this year's song, I immediately thought of Paradise. If I thought that those songs sound similar, I would admit it, no problem, but I don't. Just the first word sounds similar, and that's it. You've gotta listen to the entire song, it has a lot more to it than just the chorus. And it wasn't "hidden". LOL. How could it be hidden with the internet and everything...