Princess of China and the similarity between a song of Vietnam !? - Page 14

Dan 6N · 24-10-2011, 05:29 PM

I'm getting fed up of these lawsuits!

Teco · 24-10-2011, 08:03 PM

Id like to understand WHY DO PEOPLE STRIVES TO DENY IT, come on, dont be so alienated, skip this blind (deaf in this case) attitude. I cant believe there is ppl saying "not even close to a match", COME ON! The songs are almost EQUAL. We are not supposed to act like puppets just because we're on a coldplay forum. open your damn eyes and HAVE YOUR OWN opinion. lets act like grown up people and be coherent here. it is another plagiarism, and that is not my irrelevant opinion, its an EVIDENCE.

gus · 24-10-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftedFar^;5047927
All the best artists get sued.

It's a COMPLIMENT! :-) :-)

yep second that

Coldplay770 · 24-10-2011, 08:40 PM

The only part identical or nearly identical is the "oooooooooooo" part of the song. The songs are not identical. I hope that's what you actually meant.

gus · 24-10-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by neonhorn22;5048459
This Nelly/P. Diddy/Murphy Lee song is what I was thinking of when I first heard Princess of China! I thought...."ewww...they sampled THAT atrocity?!"

ETA: Just checked, "Shake Ya Tailfeather" came in 2006......that's 2 years before the Vietnamese song. So...I don't think she's going to have a strong case. That hook was around before she made her song.

yep

Coldplay770 · 24-10-2011, 08:45 PM

The notes are different from the Nelly song, so that argument holds no water.

dwmeyer17 · 25-10-2011, 05:55 AM

And they all plagiarized off the Atlanta Braves cheer... seriously, it's a common vocal progression.

ticking_clocks · 25-10-2011, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Teco;5048803
Id like to understand WHY DO PEOPLE STRIVES TO DENY IT, come on, dont be so alienated, skip this blind (deaf in this case) attitude. I cant believe there is ppl saying "not even close to a match", COME ON! The songs are almost EQUAL. We are not supposed to act like puppets just because we're on a coldplay forum. open your damn eyes and HAVE YOUR OWN opinion. lets act like grown up people and be coherent here. it is another plagiarism, and that is not my irrelevant opinion, its an EVIDENCE.

You mad bro? Seriously I have my own opinion, and I don't find the similarity like you do. Apart from the ooohhh ( come on now, how many songs have that in a similar fashion ) they have nothing in common. I'll be the first to admit that Viva did have many similarities to if I could fly, but I'm just not hearing this. When I think of Asian music, I think of that same melody and heey yaya (sorry if that doesn't make since) So chances are coldplay were inspired by Asian music in general and not this lady. Hence princess of CHINA. In my opinion the only puppet here is you. Why don't you open your eyes and realize it's your opinion and not EVIDENCE. Sorry to go off, but your comment kinda irked me. Let's be friends

ticking_clocks · 25-10-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dwmeyer17;5049963
And they all plagiarized off the Atlanta Braves cheer... seriously, it's a common vocal progression.

LOL.. amen brother..

ksg_tarheelfan · 25-10-2011, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dwmeyer17;5049963
And they all plagiarized off the Atlanta Braves cheer... seriously, it's a common vocal progression.

haha...hilarious. It's The Florida State Seminole Chant too... go braves, btw.

para-para-parrotdies · 25-10-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ticking_clocks;5049967
When I think of Asian music, I think of that same melody and heey yaya (sorry if that doesn't make since) So chances are coldplay were inspired by Asian music in general and not this lady.

I'm really looking to get into this "Asian music" that you keep referring to - do you have any recommendations?

Teco · 25-10-2011, 06:00 PM

Yes, plez, could you kindly make a short list of all these asian songs that sounds the s-a-m-e?
I'll be very grateful if you share your eastern music knowledge with me.

NumbersGirl · 25-10-2011, 06:15 PM

+2

'tis easy to make a random comment about lots of other songs having the same sound; 'tis another thing to back up the comment and point them out. If there's lots of other songs with essentially the same chord progression and the same duration of each chord (i.e., same emPHAsis on the same syLAbles), I'm all ears.

rafaelchampion · 25-10-2011, 06:43 PM

I Only see "Coldplay770" on plagiarism-referent threads.

Coldplay770 · 25-10-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rafaelchampion;5050883
I Only see "Coldplay770" on plagiarism-referent threads.

Meaning what exactly??? Did you even bother to read my response to the topic of this thread? Or did you just assume that because I raised the question of plagiarism in my own thread regarding the guitar riff from Major Minus, that I'm some how searching for instances where Coldplay has committed plagiarism? Regarding Major Minus, as I said already, the first time I heard it, I knew I'd heard the melody of the guitar riff somewhere else. I only brought it up as a response to this topic. Then I created the thread about Major Minus, although I had thought about it ever since hearing the song. Before then, I had not even openly discussed it. I'm not some Coldplay hater hoping that they get sued for plagiarism. However it is what it is. The melody in Princess of China resembles that of the one sang in the Vietnamese song. That's just the facts, and I'm not the only one who thinks so. I did not create this thread. I'll also have you know that I'm actually a huge fan of both songs. Both POC and Major Minus. So naturally I was attracted to this thread as were many others, some not even fans of the song. IMO it would be more likely for Coldplay to have committed plagiarism regarding the riff from Major Minus, more so than taking the melody for POC from the Vietnamese song. The song "Beautiful" by Snoop Dogg was a much more memorable, and popular song I'm certain.

24-10-2011, 05:29 PM	#196
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24-10-2011, 08:37 PM	#198
gus Coldplayer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Here Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by DriftedFar^;5047927 All the best artists get sued. It's a COMPLIMENT! :-) :-) yep second that

24-10-2011, 08:41 PM	#200
gus Coldplayer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Here Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by neonhorn22;5048459 This Nelly/P. Diddy/Murphy Lee song is what I was thinking of when I first heard Princess of China! I thought...."ewww...they sampled THAT atrocity?!" ETA: Just checked, "Shake Ya Tailfeather" came in 2006......that's 2 years before the Vietnamese song. So...I don't think she's going to have a strong case. That hook was around before she made her song. yep

25-10-2011, 06:21 AM	#203
ticking_clocks Lift off this blindfold Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 128 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Teco;5048803 Id like to understand WHY DO PEOPLE STRIVES TO DENY IT, come on, dont be so alienated, skip this blind (deaf in this case) attitude. I cant believe there is ppl saying "not even close to a match", COME ON! The songs are almost EQUAL. We are not supposed to act like puppets just because we're on a coldplay forum. open your damn eyes and HAVE YOUR OWN opinion. lets act like grown up people and be coherent here. it is another plagiarism, and that is not my irrelevant opinion, its an EVIDENCE. You mad bro? Seriously I have my own opinion, and I don't find the similarity like you do. Apart from the ooohhh ( come on now, how many songs have that in a similar fashion ) they have nothing in common. I'll be the first to admit that Viva did have many similarities to if I could fly, but I'm just not hearing this. When I think of Asian music, I think of that same melody and heey yaya (sorry if that doesn't make since) So chances are coldplay were inspired by Asian music in general and not this lady. Hence princess of CHINA. In my opinion the only puppet here is you. Why don't you open your eyes and realize it's your opinion and not EVIDENCE. Sorry to go off, but your comment kinda irked me. Let's be friends

25-10-2011, 06:23 AM	#204
ticking_clocks Lift off this blindfold Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 128 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by dwmeyer17;5049963 And they all plagiarized off the Atlanta Braves cheer... seriously, it's a common vocal progression. LOL.. amen brother..

24-10-2011, 08:03 PM	#197
Teco F you're gonna go, go now Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 457 My Mood: Location: Curitiba Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Id like to understand WHY DO PEOPLE STRIVES TO DENY IT, come on, dont be so alienated, skip this blind (deaf in this case) attitude. I cant believe there is ppl saying "not even close to a match", COME ON! The songs are almost EQUAL. We are not supposed to act like puppets just because we're on a coldplay forum. open your damn eyes and HAVE YOUR OWN opinion. lets act like grown up people and be coherent here. it is another plagiarism, and that is not my irrelevant opinion, its an EVIDENCE.

24-10-2011, 08:40 PM	#199
Coldplay770 Coldplay-Aholic Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 44 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The only part identical or nearly identical is the "oooooooooooo" part of the song. The songs are not identical. I hope that's what you actually meant.

24-10-2011, 08:45 PM	#201
Coldplay770 Coldplay-Aholic Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 44 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The notes are different from the Nelly song, so that argument holds no water.

25-10-2011, 05:55 AM	#202
dwmeyer17 Coldplayer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Nashville, TN Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And they all plagiarized off the Atlanta Braves cheer... seriously, it's a common vocal progression.

25-10-2011, 06:40 AM	#205
ksg_tarheelfan Jack Bauer's Sidekick Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 92 Location: NC Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by dwmeyer17;5049963 And they all plagiarized off the Atlanta Braves cheer... seriously, it's a common vocal progression. haha...hilarious. It's The Florida State Seminole Chant too... go braves, btw. __________________ "I am cured when you are around. I'm alright... I'm alright."

25-10-2011, 08:01 AM	#206
para-para-parrotdies Para-Para-Parrot's Ass Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,367 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 8 Thanked 152 Times in 104 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by ticking_clocks;5049967 When I think of Asian music, I think of that same melody and heey yaya (sorry if that doesn't make since) So chances are coldplay were inspired by Asian music in general and not this lady. I'm really looking to get into this "Asian music" that you keep referring to - do you have any recommendations?

25-10-2011, 06:00 PM	#207
Teco F you're gonna go, go now Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 457 My Mood: Location: Curitiba Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Yes, plez, could you kindly make a short list of all these asian songs that sounds the s-a-m-e? I'll be very grateful if you share your eastern music knowledge with me.

25-10-2011, 06:15 PM	#208
NumbersGirl sooner or later Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,487 Country: Fav. CP song: I Ramsterdam Atrouble Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 65 Thanked 179 Times in 98 Posts	+2 'tis easy to make a random comment about lots of other songs having the same sound; 'tis another thing to back up the comment and point them out. If there's lots of other songs with essentially the same chord progression and the same duration of each chord (i.e., same emPHAsis on the same syLAbles), I'm all ears. __________________ there is no Carrie, only Zuul... the mongrel cat with the crazy-kitten smile

25-10-2011, 06:43 PM	#209
rafaelchampion Shhhhhhhhhhhhh Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,989 My Mood: Location: Silencia Gender: Fav. CP album: VLVODAAHF Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 29 Thanked 111 Times in 43 Posts	I Only see "Coldplay770" on plagiarism-referent threads. __________________ Mylo Xyloto army

25-10-2011, 06:49 PM	#210
Coldplay770 Coldplay-Aholic Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 44 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by rafaelchampion;5050883 I Only see "Coldplay770" on plagiarism-referent threads. Meaning what exactly??? Did you even bother to read my response to the topic of this thread? Or did you just assume that because I raised the question of plagiarism in my own thread regarding the guitar riff from Major Minus, that I'm some how searching for instances where Coldplay has committed plagiarism? Regarding Major Minus, as I said already, the first time I heard it, I knew I'd heard the melody of the guitar riff somewhere else. I only brought it up as a response to this topic. Then I created the thread about Major Minus, although I had thought about it ever since hearing the song. Before then, I had not even openly discussed it. I'm not some Coldplay hater hoping that they get sued for plagiarism. However it is what it is. The melody in Princess of China resembles that of the one sang in the Vietnamese song. That's just the facts, and I'm not the only one who thinks so. I did not create this thread. I'll also have you know that I'm actually a huge fan of both songs. Both POC and Major Minus. So naturally I was attracted to this thread as were many others, some not even fans of the song. IMO it would be more likely for Coldplay to have committed plagiarism regarding the riff from Major Minus, more so than taking the melody for POC from the Vietnamese song. The song "Beautiful" by Snoop Dogg was a much more memorable, and popular song I'm certain.