Why is Major Minus so underrated? - Page 2

nvdmm · 22-09-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by trinest;4987308
Regardless about what I feel is it will always be 100x better then the disaster which is Up in Flames.

lol i thought the same after a few listens but im hoping something magical will come out the studio version

nvdmm · 22-09-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Major_Love;4986761
I like all the new songs I heard so far. Some of them more, some of them less.

Major Minus is one of my favorites. The problem of that song is that they played it at first live. Of course a song with this background and lyrics and atmosphere sounds live better because its more chaotic and unclean. This fits better to the theme of escape and pressure.

But I also love the studio version because the voice sounds brilliant and the verse is absolutely fantastic (the best verse I ever heard of Coldplay) in my honest opinion.

i'm delighted with all your opinions. at last the song is receiving some recognition

nvdmm · 22-09-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by para-para-parrotdies;4986993
I think it's because the song was tinkered with too much in the studio.

i dont even think its tinkered with too much. they just made a huge mistake by not releasing it before playin it live

Major_Love · 22-09-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nvdmm;4987649
i dont even think its tinkered with too much. they just made a huge mistake by not releasing it before playin it live

Yeah, I second that.
Major Minus can't be as good as live just because the whole character of the song is better shown in the live versions.

Nature · 22-09-2011, 10:39 AM

First i liked MM really much,now i just think "Mwa"

pipp088 · 22-09-2011, 11:02 AM

Loud, gritty, terrific; i like all the songs, but actually it's my favourite one, i am fascinated by this piece from the first listen... and live MM is one of their best songs ever played.. i'm glad to see this thread

Tryptophan · 22-09-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Corkus;4987135
At first I thought the song was merely okay, but I pretty much outright hate it now. No, the studio version with Chris's vocals sure as hell didn't do it any favors, but the song bothers me in other ways too. In general, the song feels like a way weaker version of "Cemeteries of London" (one of the few tracks on VLV that I feels really stands out). Not to mention the "Oooh, oooh" portions are some of Chris's most irritating vocal moments ever. The Jonny solo isn't that bad, but again, done better on COL. If ETIAW and Paradise weren't receiving such backlash, I would think much more negativity would be directed toward Major Minus.

I'd have to agree with you on the bold part. That's one of the reasons I dislike the studio version. Moreover, it's too clean, it has lost the chaos and edginess the live version has. And I miss the first guitar solo bridge.

Samuel_94 · 22-09-2011, 01:41 PM

Major Minus is great but I wish the electric guitar was more prominent like in the live shows. I love the echoes. I don't know what it is but the studio version sounds bland compared to the live version. I love it as a song though.

jenflor · 22-09-2011, 04:56 PM

I love the live version of MM. It was one of the highlights from ACL for me. I wasn't too fond of all the effects in the studio version, but now that I know there's a story being told, I think they make sense. They lend to the eerie, "Big Brother" like feel of the song.

nvdmm · 22-09-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tryptophan;4987807
I'd have to agree with you on the bold part. That's one of the reasons I dislike the studio version. Moreover, it's too clean, it has lost the chaos and edginess the live version has. And I miss the first guitar solo bridge.

yeah i can see where ur comin from. its still the best song so far though imho.

neonhorn22 · 22-09-2011, 08:47 PM

I like both the live and studio versions of MM. However, my favorite one so far is MTM. Gah...I just LOVE this song.

Vitamin Z · 22-09-2011, 09:57 PM

I liked the live version a lot, Chris's voice sounded natural and it was just so chaotic that it was awesome. The studio version lost all of this - Chris's voice sounds way excessively autotuned, and it's just...dull.

mountainloafers · 22-09-2011, 11:00 PM

The killer bass line from Guy and the thumping bass drum from Will are often overlooked as well... Just listened to the studio version again and it rattled the windows. Would love to hear this live right after Politik!

splintercell37 · 23-09-2011, 02:55 PM

I love every single thing about this song. Sure the live version is better but the studio version is enormous too.

nvdmm · 23-09-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainloafers;4988711
The killer bass line from Guy and the thumping bass drum from Will are often overlooked as well... Just listened to the studio version again and it rattled the windows. Would love to hear this live right after Politik!

yeah exactly it would make for a brilliant setlist if they include a couple of the older songs like politik. it would go well with MM and MTM. they certainly need to interchange some songs on their current setlist cuz they've been playing the same repetitive stuff for too long

22-09-2011, 09:20 AM	#16
nvdmm Coldplayer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 399 Location: Beyond the horizon... Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 55 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by trinest;4987308 Regardless about what I feel is it will always be 100x better then the disaster which is Up in Flames. lol i thought the same after a few listens but im hoping something magical will come out the studio version

22-09-2011, 09:24 AM	#17
nvdmm Coldplayer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 399 Location: Beyond the horizon... Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 55 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Major_Love;4986761 I like all the new songs I heard so far. Some of them more, some of them less. Major Minus is one of my favorites. The problem of that song is that they played it at first live. Of course a song with this background and lyrics and atmosphere sounds live better because its more chaotic and unclean. This fits better to the theme of escape and pressure. But I also love the studio version because the voice sounds brilliant and the verse is absolutely fantastic (the best verse I ever heard of Coldplay) in my honest opinion. i'm delighted with all your opinions. at last the song is receiving some recognition

22-09-2011, 09:26 AM	#18
nvdmm Coldplayer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 399 Location: Beyond the horizon... Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 55 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by para-para-parrotdies;4986993 I think it's because the song was tinkered with too much in the studio. i dont even think its tinkered with too much. they just made a huge mistake by not releasing it before playin it live

22-09-2011, 09:29 AM	#19
Major_Love A Prospekt Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,136 Location: Dresden, Germany Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by nvdmm;4987649 i dont even think its tinkered with too much. they just made a huge mistake by not releasing it before playin it live Yeah, I second that. Major Minus can't be as good as live just because the whole character of the song is better shown in the live versions.

22-09-2011, 10:39 AM	#20
Nature Coldplayer Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 480 My Mood: Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First i liked MM really much,now i just think "Mwa" __________________ http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg...zdzno1_500.gif

22-09-2011, 11:02 AM	#21
pipp088 Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 109 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Loud, gritty, terrific; i like all the songs, but actually it's my favourite one, i am fascinated by this piece from the first listen... and live MM is one of their best songs ever played.. i'm glad to see this thread

22-09-2011, 11:11 AM	#22
Tryptophan Watch the orange glow Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 867 Location: Inside a bubble Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Quote: Originally Posted by Corkus;4987135 At first I thought the song was merely okay, but I pretty much outright hate it now. No, the studio version with Chris's vocals sure as hell didn't do it any favors, but the song bothers me in other ways too. In general, the song feels like a way weaker version of "Cemeteries of London" (one of the few tracks on VLV that I feels really stands out). Not to mention the "Oooh, oooh" portions are some of Chris's most irritating vocal moments ever. The Jonny solo isn't that bad, but again, done better on COL. If ETIAW and Paradise weren't receiving such backlash, I would think much more negativity would be directed toward Major Minus. I'd have to agree with you on the bold part. That's one of the reasons I dislike the studio version. Moreover, it's too clean, it has lost the chaos and edginess the live version has. And I miss the first guitar solo bridge. __________________ "I'm always trying to work out what 'He' or 'She' is. I don't know if it's Allah or Jesus or Mohammed or Zeus. But I'd go for Zeus" - Chris Martin Jonnyboy Buckland is a fucking legend. Proud keeper of: Shiver (Live at Rock Werchter 2011) "I'm gonna buy a gun and start a war, if you could tell me something worth fighting for" "Give me real don't give me fake" Jonny's epic intro of Spies in the live versions in 2001/2002 Some other stuff

22-09-2011, 01:41 PM	#23
Samuel_94 Car Kid Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,297 My Mood: Location: Violet Hill Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Major Minus is great but I wish the electric guitar was more prominent like in the live shows. I love the echoes. I don't know what it is but the studio version sounds bland compared to the live version. I love it as a song though.

22-09-2011, 04:56 PM	#24
jenflor Give me love over this... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,335 My Mood: Location: Texas Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I love the live version of MM. It was one of the highlights from ACL for me. I wasn't too fond of all the effects in the studio version, but now that I know there's a story being told, I think they make sense. They lend to the eerie, "Big Brother" like feel of the song. __________________ I think I should have no other mortal wants, if I could always have plenty of music. - George Eliot last.fmlltumblr Proud Keeper of "Trouble" live in Dallas, 07/21/09:: "Nightswimming" with Michael Stipe on ACL:: Chris' VIVA piano::"Give me love over this..." 06/10/09 gig in San Antonio, TX::

22-09-2011, 08:02 PM	#25
nvdmm Coldplayer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 399 Location: Beyond the horizon... Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 55 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Tryptophan;4987807 I'd have to agree with you on the bold part. That's one of the reasons I dislike the studio version. Moreover, it's too clean, it has lost the chaos and edginess the live version has. And I miss the first guitar solo bridge. yeah i can see where ur comin from. its still the best song so far though imho.

22-09-2011, 08:47 PM	#26
neonhorn22 Music Lover Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,967 My Mood: Location: NWA Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I like both the live and studio versions of MM. However, my favorite one so far is MTM. Gah...I just LOVE this song.

22-09-2011, 09:57 PM	#27
Vitamin Z Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 206 Location: Wales Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I liked the live version a lot, Chris's voice sounded natural and it was just so chaotic that it was awesome. The studio version lost all of this - Chris's voice sounds way excessively autotuned, and it's just...dull. __________________ Might have to go Where they don't know my name Float all over the world Just to see her again And I won't show I feel any pain Even though all my armor might rust in the rain

22-09-2011, 11:00 PM	#28
mountainloafers It DOES hurt like heaven! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,020 My Mood: Location: Asheville, NC Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The killer bass line from Guy and the thumping bass drum from Will are often overlooked as well... Just listened to the studio version again and it rattled the windows. Would love to hear this live right after Politik! __________________ Folks here have such great taste in music... and I heard it on the radio that one day we'll be living in the stars...

23-09-2011, 02:55 PM	#29
splintercell37 Guitar/piano/vocals Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 184 My Mood: Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I love every single thing about this song. Sure the live version is better but the studio version is enormous too.

23-09-2011, 11:03 PM	#30
nvdmm Coldplayer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 399 Location: Beyond the horizon... Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 55 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by mountainloafers;4988711 The killer bass line from Guy and the thumping bass drum from Will are often overlooked as well... Just listened to the studio version again and it rattled the windows. Would love to hear this live right after Politik! yeah exactly it would make for a brilliant setlist if they include a couple of the older songs like politik. it would go well with MM and MTM. they certainly need to interchange some songs on their current setlist cuz they've been playing the same repetitive stuff for too long