Paradise is the most haunting song from the MX era so far - Page 2

Dream · 13-09-2011, 05:28 AM

Man... All the MX symbolism, a somewhat disturbing tale under the skin of what seems to be a 'happy poppy song'.. We're taking a journey aboard the Inception ride that is Coldplay D=

blankshore · 13-09-2011, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dream;4973422
Man... All the MX symbolism, a somewhat disturbing tale under the skin of what seems to be a 'happy poppy song'.. We're taking a journey aboard the Inception ride that is Coldplay D=

Can I be Ellen Page?

Dream · 13-09-2011, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blankshore;4973425
Can I be Ellen Page?

Indeed.

heelsrule1988 · 13-09-2011, 05:33 AM

I nominate the original post for Best Post on the Internet.

Brent · 13-09-2011, 05:34 AM

I don't think Paradise is so bad. There's just so much girth to the song, and we don't yet know how it fits into the whole scheme that is Mylo Xyloto.

The song is good, but I think the instrumentation says so much more than those lyrics do. Perhaps they know that the lyrics are cheesy. But the lyrics are one layer of many, many musical layers (a Coldplay onion!) that create a bold atmosphere; the whole of which is required to really grasp the story of what the song is trying to say.

Though I do like Moving to Mars better, Paradise isn't half bad. Thanks for the read! I was a little wary of returning to the site after seeing so much shallow back-and-forthing.

Hartroc · 13-09-2011, 05:34 AM

I have a major crush on Ellen Page.

Our Escape · 13-09-2011, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by blankshore;4973414
Crap dude, that's an awesome post. That last paragraph about the happy couple...YES! I like it! I think you just forced me to actually like Major Minus

Haha thanks. Although I don't want to force you to listen to Major Minus (Personally I like it) I was just trying to figure out what I thought was a weird transition. I feel like this entire story for MX is basically a modern 1984 with some space elements. I actually think Paradise would fit between ETIAW and MM perfectly.

I think each of these new songs was written with a "character" in mind which is something we're not used to with Coldplay. For paradise you have to a girl who has dreamt of something more in life, and having recently fallen in love she is wondering if this is it while at the same time being so nervous that is could all fall apart because of a problematic past.

Our Escape · 13-09-2011, 05:45 AM

This is how I picture the first part of the album:

Mylo Xyloto: Intro to album/story
Hurts Like Heaven: Intro to male lead (Boy with a spray can soul, very edgy self assured)
Paradise: Intro to female lead (Girl who dreamed of paradise despite oppression, very unsure of self)
Charlie Brown: Boy (HLH) goes to meet girl (Paradise) realizes his own short comings
Us Against the World: Boy and girl meet, vow that though they are different they will be together
M.M.I.X.: Yeah... no idea, going by relationship standard this song would be where they have sex so.... yeah
ETIAW: The happy celebration that they are together, time passes with them together and they lived happily ever after.... (Bloody Question Mark)

the yellow of ur life · 13-09-2011, 05:49 AM

Im hoping ur right, this song would be alot better to me if wat ur saying is true really hope it is, songs growin on me a little. It was a major let down when i first heard but my expectations were rediculously high so... i dont know, glad you made this educated analsis of this single that sould have stayed under the radar

P.S. dont feel like spelling today

heelsrule1988 · 13-09-2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;4973434
and we don't yet know how it fits into the whole scheme that is Mylo Xyloto.

That's one thing that makes Paradise so interesting... it sounds NOTHING like what they've given us from this era so far.

Brent · 13-09-2011, 05:58 AM

It'll be like nothing we've heard before.

Mylo Xyloto is going to be a beautiful trainwreck.

I'm really excited.

TimeIsOnYourSide · 13-09-2011, 06:02 AM

thank you for good literary criticism. it was a breath of fresh air compared to the dross of unreflective complaint this board has been producing over the last 24 hours.

lets wait for the final form of the album to pass judgement.

Dream · 13-09-2011, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;4973471
It'll be like nothing we've heard before.

Mylo Xyloto is going to be a beautiful trainwreck.

I'm really excited.

Lol.. Didn't know a trainwreck could be beautiful. But yeah the way I envision this album now can only be described by Chris dancing dramatically on stage while some inception type shite happens to blow my mind and then the silence from Dr. Who appear in Major Minus as the big brother type character.. Yeah I don't know Im pretty tired, but this thread has lifted my spirits again.

lotrobsessed101 · 13-09-2011, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by blankshore;4973338

When that thunderous synth comes in and the band starts chanting "It should be Para, para, paradise" it doesn't sound like an attempt at a sing-along chorus. It sounds cynical, like the band is angrily aware of how ridiculous it sounds. If you read the lyrics out of context it almost looks like the words to a school-yard chant, and the band sings it like one. The repetitive tale of this girl sounds like a cautionary one rather than an inspirational one.

Thank you so much for saying something positive about "Paradise". The negative comments have been getting me down all day. I wasn't impressed by the song the first time I heard it, but I never hated it, and it's growing on me.

I agree with what your thoughts about the way that "Para Para Paradise" is like a chant more than a chorus. The way it is repeated and the ethereal wall of sound is hypnotising to me, almost like meditating or something. I also find it amazing that the music has the same emotion to me as the word "Paradise". That's powerful stuff. I have found through listening that maybe this is where the beauty in this song lies. I was kind of wanting for more lyrics in this song, but maybe it doesn't need it after all.

Brent · 13-09-2011, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dream;4973479
Lol.. Didn't know a trainwreck could be beautiful. But yeah the way I envision this album now can only be described by Chris dancing dramatically on stage while some inception type shite happens to blow my mind and then the silence from Dr. Who appear in Major Minus as the big brother type character.. Yeah I don't know Im pretty tired, but this thread has lifted my spirits again.

It's a dichotomy

that was the point.

I bet the live shows are gonna be great. I saw them atLolla and arguably the best, highest-energy ones were the new tracks.

13-09-2011, 05:30 AM	#17
blankshore Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 179 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Dream;4973422 Man... All the MX symbolism, a somewhat disturbing tale under the skin of what seems to be a 'happy poppy song'.. We're taking a journey aboard the Inception ride that is Coldplay D= Can I be Ellen Page?

13-09-2011, 05:33 AM	#18
Dream Summertime Clothes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 232 My Mood: Location: Chicago Gender: Country: Seen CP: 2 times Fav. CP album: AROBTTH Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by blankshore;4973425 Can I be Ellen Page? Indeed.

13-09-2011, 05:34 AM	#20
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	I don't think Paradise is so bad. There's just so much girth to the song, and we don't yet know how it fits into the whole scheme that is Mylo Xyloto. The song is good, but I think the instrumentation says so much more than those lyrics do. Perhaps they know that the lyrics are cheesy. But the lyrics are one layer of many, many musical layers (a Coldplay onion!) that create a bold atmosphere; the whole of which is required to really grasp the story of what the song is trying to say. Though I do like Moving to Mars better, Paradise isn't half bad. Thanks for the read! I was a little wary of returning to the site after seeing so much shallow back-and-forthing. __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."

13-09-2011, 05:34 AM	#21
Hartroc Dancing Politik Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 891 My Mood: Location: In a Separate Sky Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a major crush on Ellen Page. __________________

13-09-2011, 05:35 AM	#22
Our Escape The One Who Knocks Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 193 My Mood: Location: Not Canada Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by blankshore;4973414 Crap dude, that's an awesome post. That last paragraph about the happy couple...YES! I like it! I think you just forced me to actually like* Major Minus* Haha thanks. Although I don't want to force you to listen to Major Minus (Personally I like it) I was just trying to figure out what I thought was a weird transition. I feel like this entire story for MX is basically a modern 1984 with some space elements. I actually think Paradise would fit between ETIAW and MM perfectly. I think each of these new songs was written with a "character" in mind which is something we're not used to with Coldplay. For paradise you have to a girl who has dreamt of something more in life, and having recently fallen in love she is wondering if this is it while at the same time being so nervous that is could all fall apart because of a problematic past.

13-09-2011, 05:28 AM	#16
Dream Summertime Clothes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 232 My Mood: Location: Chicago Gender: Country: Seen CP: 2 times Fav. CP album: AROBTTH Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Man... All the MX symbolism, a somewhat disturbing tale under the skin of what seems to be a 'happy poppy song'.. We're taking a journey aboard the Inception ride that is Coldplay D=

13-09-2011, 05:33 AM	#19
heelsrule1988 NC's biggest Coldplay fan Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 264 Location: Raleigh, NC Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I nominate the original post for Best Post on the Internet.

13-09-2011, 05:45 AM	#23
Our Escape The One Who Knocks Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 193 My Mood: Location: Not Canada Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is how I picture the first part of the album: Mylo Xyloto: Intro to album/story Hurts Like Heaven: Intro to male lead (Boy with a spray can soul, very edgy self assured) Paradise: Intro to female lead (Girl who dreamed of paradise despite oppression, very unsure of self) Charlie Brown: Boy (HLH) goes to meet girl (Paradise) realizes his own short comings Us Against the World: Boy and girl meet, vow that though they are different they will be together M.M.I.X.: Yeah... no idea, going by relationship standard this song would be where they have sex so.... yeah ETIAW: The happy celebration that they are together, time passes with them together and they lived happily ever after.... (Bloody Question Mark)

13-09-2011, 05:49 AM	#24
the yellow of ur life BromptonCocktail Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 177 My Mood: Location: chicago Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Im hoping ur right, this song would be alot better to me if wat ur saying is true really hope it is, songs growin on me a little. It was a major let down when i first heard but my expectations were rediculously high so... i dont know, glad you made this educated analsis of this single that sould have stayed under the radar P.S. dont feel like spelling today __________________

13-09-2011, 05:56 AM	#25
heelsrule1988 NC's biggest Coldplay fan Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 264 Location: Raleigh, NC Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;4973434 and we don't yet know how it fits into the whole scheme that is Mylo Xyloto. That's one thing that makes Paradise so interesting... it sounds NOTHING like what they've given us from this era so far.

13-09-2011, 05:58 AM	#26
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	It'll be like nothing we've heard before. Mylo Xyloto is going to be a beautiful trainwreck. I'm really excited. __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."

13-09-2011, 06:02 AM	#27
TimeIsOnYourSide moving to mars.... Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,937 My Mood: Location: Yankee land Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank you for good literary criticism. it was a breath of fresh air compared to the dross of unreflective complaint this board has been producing over the last 24 hours. lets wait for the final form of the album to pass judgement. __________________ 9.10.05 TWC Pavilion, Raleigh, NC. 8.6.09 TWC Pavilion, Raleigh, NC (C-Stage dweller) In a haze, a stormy haze I’ll be 'round, I’ll be loving you, always Always Here I am and I'll take my time Here I am and I’ll wait in line, always Always

13-09-2011, 06:06 AM	#28
Dream Summertime Clothes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 232 My Mood: Location: Chicago Gender: Country: Seen CP: 2 times Fav. CP album: AROBTTH Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;4973471 It'll be like nothing we've heard before. Mylo Xyloto is going to be a beautiful trainwreck. I'm really excited. Lol.. Didn't know a trainwreck could be beautiful. But yeah the way I envision this album now can only be described by Chris dancing dramatically on stage while some inception type shite happens to blow my mind and then the silence from Dr. Who appear in Major Minus as the big brother type character.. Yeah I don't know Im pretty tired, but this thread has lifted my spirits again.

13-09-2011, 06:09 AM	#29
lotrobsessed101 Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 690 My Mood: Location: Dallas Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by blankshore;4973338 When that thunderous synth comes in and the band starts chanting "It should be Para, para, paradise" it doesn't sound like an attempt at a sing-along chorus. It sounds cynical, like the band is angrily aware of how ridiculous it sounds. If you read the lyrics out of context it almost looks like the words to a school-yard chant, and the band sings it like one. The repetitive tale of this girl sounds like a cautionary one rather than an inspirational one. Thank you so much for saying something positive about "Paradise". The negative comments have been getting me down all day. I wasn't impressed by the song the first time I heard it, but I never hated it, and it's growing on me. I agree with what your thoughts about the way that "Para Para Paradise" is like a chant more than a chorus. The way it is repeated and the ethereal wall of sound is hypnotising to me, almost like meditating or something. I also find it amazing that the music has the same emotion to me as the word "Paradise". That's powerful stuff. I have found through listening that maybe this is where the beauty in this song lies. I was kind of wanting for more lyrics in this song, but maybe it doesn't need it after all.

13-09-2011, 06:16 AM	#30
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Dream;4973479 Lol.. Didn't know a trainwreck could be beautiful. But yeah the way I envision this album now can only be described by Chris dancing dramatically on stage while some inception type shite happens to blow my mind and then the silence from Dr. Who appear in Major Minus as the big brother type character.. Yeah I don't know Im pretty tired, but this thread has lifted my spirits again. It's a dichotomy that was the point. I bet the live shows are gonna be great. I saw them atLolla and arguably the best, highest-energy ones were the new tracks. __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."