Is This the Most Hate? - Page 4

valypan · 13-09-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien Radio;4974023
And they are so proud of Mylo Xyloto, they say that this is their masterpiece. Their fans seem to disagree with them.

But some of us agree

A split is not always a bad thing. Either way, MX has stirred up a lot of people, in negative and positive ways

SueDeNimes · 13-09-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by valypan;4973944
Sue: I really hope this changes because the hardcore fans are usually the ones in front row, so it would be kinda sad to see no hands in the air when Paradise or Every Tear are being played in the proper MX tour hehe I might make a run for front row this time too, but I kinda like the idea of hanging a few rows behind..we´ll see

Are you and the people you met disappointed about all MX material or just Every Tear and/or Paradise? I think this album will offer a bit for everyone.

I am one of the front row girls, yes.

I can't even remember how many banners I made... last one was "Good to see you again" with Charlie Brown drawing on it haha.
(No, I never made any offensive banners.

)

At the moment I couldn't even justify spending big amounts of money to see them in concert to myself. It's gotten this bad.
Just last weekend Imke and me had our "anniversary" of meeting Chris and Guy rather by accident in front of the Bakery.
It's nice thinking back of all the awesome memories I have because of CP.
Soon it'll be one year since the boat trip (and the fun night at Dublin Castle the day after)!

Here's a little summary of why I don't like 4 out of the 4 properly released songs so far:

- ETIAW: disaster, there is a reason why Ritmo de la Noche hasn't been played on the radio since the 90's. Recycling other songs in the first one you hear after they went into retreat was a big disappointment but the Rock am Ring stream gave hope.
- Major Minus: The live version was great to listen to. Then there was the studio version. Muffled vocals, too silent in comparison to the instrumentation and on top of that the distortion of the vocals. Second miss for me. It could've been better.
- Moving to Mars: Nothing in this song fits together for me. There seem to be 3 separate parts... The high "Maaaaars" bit ruined the bit of emotion that the rest managed to evoke in me. There are simply too many ideas put into one single song when they could've made 3 out of it.
- Paradise: There has been said enough about it since yesterday I think. It lacks emotion, I can't relate to it in any way. The youtube piano cover clearly shows that the song has potential that hasn't been used. It just screams "we want this to be a hit" so they put too many ingredients into it. What bothers me most is that this song probably was born on a simple piano melody but then was modified into this pop-synth crap with the children-choir-like "Para- Para- Paradise" bit that was only worsened by the high "uuuuh"s at the end.

Wow, didn't think I'd write this much hehe

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Originally Posted by Mimixxx;4973952
Two years ago this week was Wembley And I agree, the absolute sheer joy, exhilaration, emotion I felt at those two gigs, I never ever thought I'd be at this point two years later.

It's upsetting. Which is has played a massive part in all the negativity, it all comes from people who love this band and who are hurt, upset and scared. I've been here for almost 9 years and we've never ever had anything like the reactions we've had for ETIAW and Paradise before. It's certainly been an interesting few days.

Wembley week was awesome!!
All the stress was worth it and bad times or lack of sleep are forgotten, we had a great time being emotional and then one minute later jumping and singing our lungs out hehe

We were a great group I think.

I agree with everything you said.

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Originally Posted by Nattatouille;4973976
Just this. I can't believe in 2 years since Wembley all this has come to pass. I just feel absolutely heartbroken.

Yes, it's not just the music, right?
We had awesome experiences together and now it seems like it won't ever be the same again because it was the music that brought us together originally.
Mhmm, don't know how to express myself right now, I hope you know what I mean?

Oooh, just remembered I need to update this graph I made when ETIAW was released!

valypan · 13-09-2011, 02:21 PM

Sue: Surely you are not going to give up seeing them live because of those 4 songs?

After all seeing them live is the chance we all get to hear most of their great catalogue. I hope you won´t miss out on this.

We could all go to the concerts and just accept that there is going to be songs for everyone and every taste. After all, the very synths you called crap actually are very emotional to me, so we are all different but Coldplay catalogue, especially live, will always be so varied to be able to cater to both sides. Or at least that is my hope for all long-time fans

SueDeNimes · 13-09-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimixxx;4973999
I like Charlie Brown, I like UATW, I like HLH, but I don't if that was more relief they didn't sound like ETIAW and after hearing Paradise and ETIAW I worry deeply for the recorded versions. I don't like the studio version of MM at all, PoC will have Rihanna on it (which I won't judge until I've heard but I'm not thrilled about the idea). None of them have really struck any sort of emotional chord with me though.

Of course they might prove me wrong, but they're not giving me an awful lot to put my faith into at this point. I guess we'll see in 6 weeks, but I think it's fair to say I'm pretty terrified.

I also like Charlie Brown and UATW and HLH... but like you I'm worried about the studio version after hearing what they did to MM.
POC already sounded very hip hop (but certainly not bad!) and I'm curious what the song will be like.
I was sceptical when I heard Maroon 5 made a song with Christina Aguilera but in the end I love the song and her part isn't that prominent in the song.

All in all I'm terrified like you hehe

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Originally Posted by valypan;4974025
So at least you like some of the songs. Maybe within the overall context of the album, the songs will have more meaning to you once heard in the proper order. Emotional chords are something so personal it would be useless to argue about, but I do feel both ET and Paradise deal with very dark themes and hope in dire times (albeit the darkness is well hidden but the depth is there

Yes, we'll know more in 6 weeks!
I hope you're right.

It's nice to see that normal discussions are possible here btw.

valypan · 13-09-2011, 02:27 PM

Yes I have a feeling if we all were in the same room physically there would probably be much more respect shown...sometimes posting on the internet, you forget that the words you write actually can hurt the person reading them. You just don´t see their faces, so you don´t realize how hurtful it can get. As we are all fans (or at least have been) my hope is that we will all be able to share some enthusiasm for MX, more or less, so we can go back to what we do best: scream our joy for Coldplay music

SueDeNimes · 13-09-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by valypan;4974048
Sue: Surely you are not going to give up seeing them live because of those 4 songs? After all seeing them live is the chance we all get to hear most of their great catalogue. I hope you won´t miss out on this. We could all go to the concerts and just accept that there is going to be songs for everyone and every taste. After all, the very synths you called crap actually are very emotional to me, so we are all different but Coldplay catalogue, especially live, will always be so varied to be able to cater to both sides. Or at least that is my hope for all long-time fans

Hehe no worries, I'll give them another chance for sure but because of work alone I won't be able to travel much for them (not even close to like I did during the VLV tour).
To add to it all the last time I saw them was a disaster.
And it was my 10th concert, with lots of people I love and we were totally prepared to have a great time but it came otherwise.
That's something that is part of my disappointment, too.
Of course everyone can have a crappy day but at Main Square Festival it was just one hiccup too much... so much went wrong. It was impossible to get into it the way it was the 9 times before.

Ah well, I better stay silent now and do something productive before I leave for work hehe

EDIT: I'm now listening to this gem:
http://www.tape.tv/telly/fink&channel=fink_add_koop

Famous Old Painter · 13-09-2011, 03:52 PM

The reactions to ETIAW and Paradise are definitely the worst I've ever seen on here, and I've been around for quite a while (joined in 2005).

From what I could remember, the only thing that caused any real upset from the Viva era was learning what the title was. A lot of people were upset about the title. Apart from that, there was generally a lot of excitement. I remember quite a few people being uncertain about Violet Hill at first but it certainly wasn't anywhere near the levels of hate we're experiencing now. As for Viva la Vida (the song), I remember there being quite a bit of praise around it. Particularly when it started climbing the charts so high, that was an exciting day in Coldplaying history.

aschall · 13-09-2011, 04:03 PM

people loved the beatles so much for their experimentation. thats what coldplay is trying to do. i admire them for their courage

JordanHH · 13-09-2011, 04:52 PM

Song is brilliant. I don't understand why it's getting so much hate.

Clearly the more vocal ones are the haters, when you look at the ratings it got voted in the poll.

Nattatouille · 13-09-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SueDeNimes;4974042
At the moment I couldn't even justify spending big amounts of money to see them in concert to myself. It's gotten this bad.
Just last weekend Imke and me had our "anniversary" of meeting Chris and Guy rather by accident in front of the Bakery.
It's nice thinking back of all the awesome memories I have because of CP.
Soon it'll be one year since the boat trip (and the fun night at Dublin Castle the day after)!

Wembley week was awesome!!
All the stress was worth it and bad times or lack of sleep are forgotten, we had a great time being emotional and then one minute later jumping and singing our lungs out hehe
We were a great group I think.

I agree with everything you said.

Yes, it's not just the music, right?
We had awesome experiences together and now it seems like it won't ever be the same again because it was the music that brought us together originally.
Mhmm, don't know how to express myself right now, I hope you know what I mean?

I can't believe it's almost 2 years since Wembley or almost a year since the boat trip. They've been amazing experiences brought to us by the band... And yeah, it just doesn't feel like it can be the same again.

I mean, I cried when we heard Christmas Lights on the boat because it was lovely and special and now whenever it comes of shuffle it brings back all the excitement and friendship forged that night.

I get completely what you mean. The music brought us together and it was meant to unite us... But now it's gone I sort of feel like what's left to unite us anymore? I never got to experience a full Coldplaying Wembley (as I was seated) and I now fear I never will... Or I won't with some of the members of the forum I would most like to see again/meet.

valypan · 13-09-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Famous Old Painter;4974186
As for Viva la Vida (the song), I remember there being quite a bit of praise around it. Particularly when it started climbing the charts so high, that was an exciting day in Coldplaying history.

Funny you should mention VIVA the song. I was actually thinking today that Paradise resembles Viva a lot (the ooh ooh chants, lush instrumentation, violins) , so very weird how it got such a different reaction. Go figure

It surely can not only be because of the synths hehe

sp★rkle · 22-09-2011, 02:34 PM

"THIS IS ABOUT OUR BAND AND OUR FEELING ABOUT EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD WITH OUR MUSIC AND FEELING LIKE SOMETIMES WE'RE UNDER ATTACK AND ALL THAT STUFF BUT NEVERTHELESS FEELING RESILIENT." -Chris Martin while introducing Us Against the World at Live on Letterman

And you know what's ironic? Its how all you anti-MX think that this song sounds like the old Coldplay, with its true message now exposed in your faces.

It feels so good to finally get that off my chest, and to be my comeback post.

Also, in the future, please bear in mind that being FREE doesn't always mean saying everything you think. If you want people to respect you, you must be respectful yourself, so stop taking things personally and stop attacking those who think different than you. This applies to everyone here in the board.

bdevil89 · 22-09-2011, 03:20 PM

Hey all - saw Coldplay at Letterman - amazing - have been a fan since I saw them back in 2000 - For You is one of my favorites by them - so I love old coldplay and am glad they are going forward with what they want to do - The new singles are great and love the lush instrumentation on them. Got a chance to meet and speak with Phil Harvey after the show, so gracious and down to earth. Told him to tell the guys - don't listen to the hate, especially from coldplaying.com - and he sighed, and told me some of the people on coldplaying.com are really harsh and bit too much.

I told him to tell them to keep going and that the new songs are amazing, and don't worry about 'true' fans - you'll never please everybody. He agreed and really thanked me for saying that and that it means a lot, and that he will definitely let the boys know as they probably do feel like they're going into new territory (Will's nerves) and will lose people. But honestly for them, it's new and keeps them wanting to create - look at R.E.M. - after 30 yrs they had no where to go, so they called it a day. I don't want Coldplay to ever feel like that - I want them to do what they want to - they've made so much great music, they haven't gone all Radiohead on us (and I love Radiohead, the new stuff is ok, but iron lung just came on my ipod randomly yesterday night, as I was walking back from work, wow what an amazing song)

These new songs and new direction is what they want to do and they're still making great songs that are not acid jazz or whatever obscure genre.

As for the lyrics - hey it's not easy, plus for a concept album - you really need to listen to the whole album to understand what the context of both the song and the lyrics really mean. It's a story/opera/musical of sorts. Paradise is the hopes and expectations of the girl in the story - it's not what she expected.

I love Death and all his friends - but lyrically - there's not much quantity but it's simple and effective, i think paradise is along the same lines. ETIAW lyrically is about having hope and trying to see things in a positive light despite the Major Minus world they live (maybe that's why MM is titled that, the opposing force to the positivity that the characters r trying to create). Music and art are liberating, and can be used as a positive revolutionary force - the main protagonist has hope and is inspired by his new love and this new movement of spraycan soul he is a part of - it gives him life and passion to make sure that people can overcome whatever's holding them down.

That's what i take from these two songs w/in the context of the album. I think they're brilliant as well as the other songs. This album may be another one of their masterpieces (viva was amazing for sure) and another great addition to their next trilogy (perhaps their Empire Strikes Back (original) not the 5th version/edited crap of course)

Viva la Coldplay!

neonhorn22 · 22-09-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Space Cadet;4973292
Oh, there's always been divided opinion when something was new, at least from X&Y on. People fought. People came and left. There have always been immature fans who took things too seriously and people who liked to wind those fans up.

I haven't bothered to check much of it (why bother? it can't be good for you psychologically), but from what I've seen, the level of vitrol is new. But it's exactly like that across the entire internet now. I can't think of a single board for anything I used to be on 10 years ago that hasn't had a serious downgrade in civility within the last 3 years. I guess it's just a new generation of kids with a new set of expectations.

A deep breath and a grain of salt go a long way.

Yes, couldn't agree more.

I wish those with nothing but negative things to say about all their singles and this album would just state their opinion and then leave. I'm fine with opinions, but it's honestly getting silly having to listen to "ETIAW sux!!111 Coldplay r crap!!" posts at every turn. And this is coming from someone who didn't like ETIAW or Paradise on the initial listens. But, they have grown on me and I'm starting to be open to this new direction.

I know people have a right to be here...but if those people openly hate Coldplay's new direction, then why are they still here posting hate? I didn't particularly like Glen Ballard's hand in producing Dave Matthews Band back when "Every Day" came out and then everything after that just fell short for me, but I didn't stick around the fansite I frequented and beat a dead horse about how I hated it. I quietly left, moved on, and found a new band to rave about.

VivaGroaning · 22-09-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by admnistramation;4973188
We're brutally honest.

Debs, I want you and the boys to know that Paradise makes me feel like you're trying to tell us that we can't handle lyrical depth. It's kind of insulting and it makes me not want to purchase the album. Have you no shame? There are better ways to please everyone; Coldplay will release whatever they want and the sheep fanboys and fangirls will eat it up. Why not kill two birds with one stone and give us some better lyrics?

lyrical depth? coldplay have always been bad with lyrics (expect maybe some few songs on VLV). come on.

i also don't get the synth sound - pop accusations. in paradise they simply incorporated some nice synths within their sound. I mean it's all still there, the piano, the guitar (at the end). And it's not like they turned from alternative rock to pop with this phase. They have always been the most pop of rock bands and knew that.

I don't get all the hate surrounding this phase - I mean let's compare it to X&Y which really was a too long, unimaginative and structure-repeating combination of tracks. In that phase they were only trying to recreate what made them big - and totally hit the lowpoint of their career for me (except some songs like of course Fix You..) - with Mylo Xyloto they're definetely trying to recreate their sound, which is, like it or not, a good thing.

13-09-2011, 02:08 PM	#46
valypan MXer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,551 My Mood: Location: Denmark Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 53 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Alien Radio;4974023 And they are so proud of Mylo Xyloto, they say that this is their masterpiece. Their fans seem to disagree with them. But some of us agree A split is not always a bad thing. Either way, MX has stirred up a lot of people, in negative and positive ways __________________ Luminous and wired, glowing in the dark

13-09-2011, 02:17 PM	#47
SueDeNimes CRAZY IS GOOD! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,780 My Mood: Location: in my little bubble Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 28 Thanked 81 Times in 55 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by valypan;4973944 Sue: I really hope this changes because the hardcore fans are usually the ones in front row, so it would be kinda sad to see no hands in the air when Paradise or Every Tear are being played in the proper MX tour hehe I might make a run for front row this time too, but I kinda like the idea of hanging a few rows behind..we´ll see Are you and the people you met disappointed about all MX material or just Every Tear and/or Paradise? I think this album will offer a bit for everyone. I am one of the front row girls, yes. I can't even remember how many banners I made... last one was "Good to see you again" with Charlie Brown drawing on it haha. (No, I never made any offensive banners. ) At the moment I couldn't even justify spending big amounts of money to see them in concert to myself. It's gotten this bad. Just last weekend Imke and me had our "anniversary" of meeting Chris and Guy rather by accident in front of the Bakery. It's nice thinking back of all the awesome memories I have because of CP. Soon it'll be one year since the boat trip (and the fun night at Dublin Castle the day after)! Here's a little summary of why I don't like 4 out of the 4 properly released songs so far: - ETIAW: disaster, there is a reason why Ritmo de la Noche hasn't been played on the radio since the 90's. Recycling other songs in the first one you hear after they went into retreat was a big disappointment but the Rock am Ring stream gave hope. - Major Minus: The live version was great to listen to. Then there was the studio version. Muffled vocals, too silent in comparison to the instrumentation and on top of that the distortion of the vocals. Second miss for me. It could've been better. - Moving to Mars: Nothing in this song fits together for me. There seem to be 3 separate parts... The high "Maaaaars" bit ruined the bit of emotion that the rest managed to evoke in me. There are simply too many ideas put into one single song when they could've made 3 out of it. - Paradise: There has been said enough about it since yesterday I think. It lacks emotion, I can't relate to it in any way. The youtube piano cover clearly shows that the song has potential that hasn't been used. It just screams "we want this to be a hit" so they put too many ingredients into it. What bothers me most is that this song probably was born on a simple piano melody but then was modified into this pop-synth crap with the children-choir-like "Para- Para- Paradise" bit that was only worsened by the high "uuuuh"s at the end. Wow, didn't think I'd write this much hehe Quote: Originally Posted by Mimixxx;4973952 Two years ago this week was Wembley And I agree, the absolute sheer joy, exhilaration, emotion I felt at those two gigs, I never ever thought I'd be at this point two years later. It's upsetting. Which is has played a massive part in all the negativity, it all comes from people who love this band and who are hurt, upset and scared. I've been here for almost 9 years and we've never ever had anything like the reactions we've had for ETIAW and Paradise before. It's certainly been an interesting few days. Wembley week was awesome!! All the stress was worth it and bad times or lack of sleep are forgotten, we had a great time being emotional and then one minute later jumping and singing our lungs out hehe We were a great group I think. I agree with everything you said. Quote: Originally Posted by Nattatouille;4973976 Just this. I can't believe in 2 years since Wembley all this has come to pass. I just feel absolutely heartbroken. Yes, it's not just the music, right? We had awesome experiences together and now it seems like it won't ever be the same again because it was the music that brought us together originally. Mhmm, don't know how to express myself right now, I hope you know what I mean? Oooh, just remembered I need to update this graph I made when ETIAW was released! __________________ >> Parachutes 2.0 << >> CLUBBING!!! << Matt about Dom's fear during a flight: "If the plane had jolted any more he would have just come out and said 'I'm gay'." PWOPAH: Mr. Anna & Mike went to Wembellamy! TWICE, because we quite like it firm. Best weekend ever, 9th to 12th of Sept 2010. Pwopahly reuniting for Muse again: 15/12/12 Love you, Imke!!

13-09-2011, 02:21 PM	#48
valypan MXer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,551 My Mood: Location: Denmark Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 53 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts	Sue: Surely you are not going to give up seeing them live because of those 4 songs? After all seeing them live is the chance we all get to hear most of their great catalogue. I hope you won´t miss out on this. We could all go to the concerts and just accept that there is going to be songs for everyone and every taste. After all, the very synths you called crap actually are very emotional to me, so we are all different but Coldplay catalogue, especially live, will always be so varied to be able to cater to both sides. Or at least that is my hope for all long-time fans __________________ Luminous and wired, glowing in the dark

13-09-2011, 02:23 PM	#49
SueDeNimes CRAZY IS GOOD! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,780 My Mood: Location: in my little bubble Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 28 Thanked 81 Times in 55 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Mimixxx;4973999 I like Charlie Brown, I like UATW, I like HLH, but I don't if that was more relief they didn't sound like ETIAW and after hearing Paradise and ETIAW I worry deeply for the recorded versions. I don't like the studio version of MM at all, PoC will have Rihanna on it (which I won't judge until I've heard but I'm not thrilled about the idea). None of them have really struck any sort of emotional chord with me though. Of course they might prove me wrong, but they're not giving me an awful lot to put my faith into at this point. I guess we'll see in 6 weeks, but I think it's fair to say I'm pretty terrified. I also like Charlie Brown and UATW and HLH... but like you I'm worried about the studio version after hearing what they did to MM. POC already sounded very hip hop (but certainly not bad!) and I'm curious what the song will be like. I was sceptical when I heard Maroon 5 made a song with Christina Aguilera but in the end I love the song and her part isn't that prominent in the song. All in all I'm terrified like you hehe Quote: Originally Posted by valypan;4974025 So at least you like some of the songs. Maybe within the overall context of the album, the songs will have more meaning to you once heard in the proper order. Emotional chords are something so personal it would be useless to argue about, but I do feel both ET and Paradise deal with very dark themes and hope in dire times (albeit the darkness is well hidden but the depth is there Yes, we'll know more in 6 weeks! I hope you're right. It's nice to see that normal discussions are possible here btw. __________________ >> Parachutes 2.0 << >> CLUBBING!!! << Matt about Dom's fear during a flight: "If the plane had jolted any more he would have just come out and said 'I'm gay'." PWOPAH: Mr. Anna & Mike went to Wembellamy! TWICE, because we quite like it firm. Best weekend ever, 9th to 12th of Sept 2010. Pwopahly reuniting for Muse again: 15/12/12 Love you, Imke!!

13-09-2011, 02:27 PM	#50
valypan MXer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,551 My Mood: Location: Denmark Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 53 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts	Yes I have a feeling if we all were in the same room physically there would probably be much more respect shown...sometimes posting on the internet, you forget that the words you write actually can hurt the person reading them. You just don´t see their faces, so you don´t realize how hurtful it can get. As we are all fans (or at least have been) my hope is that we will all be able to share some enthusiasm for MX, more or less, so we can go back to what we do best: scream our joy for Coldplay music __________________ Luminous and wired, glowing in the dark

13-09-2011, 02:28 PM	#51
SueDeNimes CRAZY IS GOOD! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,780 My Mood: Location: in my little bubble Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 28 Thanked 81 Times in 55 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by valypan;4974048 Sue: Surely you are not going to give up seeing them live because of those 4 songs? After all seeing them live is the chance we all get to hear most of their great catalogue. I hope you won´t miss out on this. We could all go to the concerts and just accept that there is going to be songs for everyone and every taste. After all, the very synths you called crap actually are very emotional to me, so we are all different but Coldplay catalogue, especially live, will always be so varied to be able to cater to both sides. Or at least that is my hope for all long-time fans Hehe no worries, I'll give them another chance for sure but because of work alone I won't be able to travel much for them (not even close to like I did during the VLV tour). To add to it all the last time I saw them was a disaster. And it was my 10th concert, with lots of people I love and we were totally prepared to have a great time but it came otherwise. That's something that is part of my disappointment, too. Of course everyone can have a crappy day but at Main Square Festival it was just one hiccup too much... so much went wrong. It was impossible to get into it the way it was the 9 times before. Ah well, I better stay silent now and do something productive before I leave for work hehe EDIT: I'm now listening to this gem: http://www.tape.tv/telly/fink&channel=fink_add_koop __________________ >> Parachutes 2.0 << >> CLUBBING!!! << Matt about Dom's fear during a flight: "If the plane had jolted any more he would have just come out and said 'I'm gay'." PWOPAH: Mr. Anna & Mike went to Wembellamy! TWICE, because we quite like it firm. Best weekend ever, 9th to 12th of Sept 2010. Pwopahly reuniting for Muse again: 15/12/12 Love you, Imke!!

13-09-2011, 03:52 PM	#52
Famous Old Painter KICKS LIKE A SLEEP TWICH Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,741 My Mood: Location: Yesteryear Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The reactions to ETIAW and Paradise are definitely the worst I've ever seen on here, and I've been around for quite a while (joined in 2005). From what I could remember, the only thing that caused any real upset from the Viva era was learning what the title was. A lot of people were upset about the title. Apart from that, there was generally a lot of excitement. I remember quite a few people being uncertain about Violet Hill at first but it certainly wasn't anywhere near the levels of hate we're experiencing now. As for Viva la Vida (the song), I remember there being quite a bit of praise around it. Particularly when it started climbing the charts so high, that was an exciting day in Coldplaying history. __________________

13-09-2011, 04:03 PM	#53
aschall Eat, Sleep, Coldplay Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,330 My Mood: Location: San Diego, California Gender: Country: Seen CP: 2 times Fav. CP album: VLVODAAHF Fav. CP song: The Scientist Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 51 Thanked 74 Times in 55 Posts	people loved the beatles so much for their experimentation. thats what coldplay is trying to do. i admire them for their courage

13-09-2011, 04:52 PM	#54
JordanHH Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 184 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Song is brilliant. I don't understand why it's getting so much hate. Clearly the more vocal ones are the haters, when you look at the ratings it got voted in the poll.

13-09-2011, 05:10 PM	#55
Nattatouille Coldplay Choir Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,941 My Mood: Location: Southampton, UK Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 18 Thanked 69 Times in 36 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by SueDeNimes;4974042 At the moment I couldn't even justify spending big amounts of money to see them in concert to myself. It's gotten this bad. Just last weekend Imke and me had our "anniversary" of meeting Chris and Guy rather by accident in front of the Bakery. It's nice thinking back of all the awesome memories I have because of CP. Soon it'll be one year since the boat trip (and the fun night at Dublin Castle the day after)! Wembley week was awesome!! All the stress was worth it and bad times or lack of sleep are forgotten, we had a great time being emotional and then one minute later jumping and singing our lungs out hehe We were a great group I think. I agree with everything you said. Yes, it's not just the music, right? We had awesome experiences together and now it seems like it won't ever be the same again because it was the music that brought us together originally. Mhmm, don't know how to express myself right now, I hope you know what I mean? I can't believe it's almost 2 years since Wembley or almost a year since the boat trip. They've been amazing experiences brought to us by the band... And yeah, it just doesn't feel like it can be the same again. I mean, I cried when we heard Christmas Lights on the boat because it was lovely and special and now whenever it comes of shuffle it brings back all the excitement and friendship forged that night. I get completely what you mean. The music brought us together and it was meant to unite us... But now it's gone I sort of feel like what's left to unite us anymore? I never got to experience a full Coldplaying Wembley (as I was seated) and I now fear I never will... Or I won't with some of the members of the forum I would most like to see again/meet. __________________ Palma Violets 10-1 // The Vaccines 22-1 // Temples, LULS, Drenge, Wolf Alice 26-1 // Two Door Cinema Club 28-1 // Everything Everything 6-2 // Hurts 7-2 // Swim Deep 14-2 // Django Django, Miles Kane, Peace, Palma Violets 20-2, 21-2, 23-2 // Kaiser Chiefs 25-2 // Palma Violets 28-2 // Tom Odell 11-3// Theme Park 12-3 // Palma Violets 9-4 // Other Tribe 20-4 //Phoenix 20-4 // Cave Painting 10-5 // Takedown Festival 11-5 // The Great Escape 16-5, 17-5, 18-5 // Postal Service 20-5 // Black Books 22-5 // Dutch Uncles 24-5 // Muse 25-5 // Drenge 7-6 // Splash 8-6 // Kings of Leon 12-6 // The Killers 22-6 // Vampire Weekend 28-6 // John Mayer 20-10 // The Feeling 25-10 // Hurts 26-10 // Quote: Originally Posted by Hysteria;4810300 I think Natt just Wolstenowned him.

13-09-2011, 08:46 PM	#56
valypan MXer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,551 My Mood: Location: Denmark Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 53 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Famous Old Painter;4974186 As for Viva la Vida (the song), I remember there being quite a bit of praise around it. Particularly when it started climbing the charts so high, that was an exciting day in Coldplaying history. Funny you should mention VIVA the song. I was actually thinking today that Paradise resembles Viva a lot (the ooh ooh chants, lush instrumentation, violins) , so very weird how it got such a different reaction. Go figure It surely can not only be because of the synths hehe __________________ Luminous and wired, glowing in the dark

22-09-2011, 02:34 PM	#57
sp★rkle drowning in Nai Cha Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,042 My Mood: Location: beneath an orange sky Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"THIS IS ABOUT OUR BAND AND OUR FEELING ABOUT EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD WITH OUR MUSIC AND FEELING LIKE SOMETIMES WE'RE UNDER ATTACK AND ALL THAT STUFF BUT NEVERTHELESS FEELING RESILIENT." -Chris Martin while introducing Us Against the World at Live on Letterman And you know what's ironic? Its how all you anti-MX think that this song sounds like the old Coldplay, with its true message now exposed in your faces. It feels so good to finally get that off my chest, and to be my comeback post. Also, in the future, please bear in mind that being FREE doesn't always mean saying everything you think. If you want people to respect you, you must be respectful yourself, so stop taking things personally and stop attacking those who think different than you. This applies to everyone here in the board. __________________ "THIS IS ABOUT OUR BAND AND OUR FEELING ABOUT EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD WITH OUR MUSIC AND FEELING LIKE SOMETIMES WE'RE UNDER ATTACK AND ALL THAT STUFF BUT NEVERTHELESS FEELING RESILIENT." -Chris Martin 16.2.09_20.9.09 I had a dream I stood beneath an orange sky...

22-09-2011, 03:20 PM	#58
bdevil89 Coldplayer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 258 Location: Manhattan, New York Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Hey all - saw Coldplay at Letterman - amazing - have been a fan since I saw them back in 2000 - For You is one of my favorites by them - so I love old coldplay and am glad they are going forward with what they want to do - The new singles are great and love the lush instrumentation on them. Got a chance to meet and speak with Phil Harvey after the show, so gracious and down to earth. Told him to tell the guys - don't listen to the hate, especially from coldplaying.com - and he sighed, and told me some of the people on coldplaying.com are really harsh and bit too much. I told him to tell them to keep going and that the new songs are amazing, and don't worry about 'true' fans - you'll never please everybody. He agreed and really thanked me for saying that and that it means a lot, and that he will definitely let the boys know as they probably do feel like they're going into new territory (Will's nerves) and will lose people. But honestly for them, it's new and keeps them wanting to create - look at R.E.M. - after 30 yrs they had no where to go, so they called it a day. I don't want Coldplay to ever feel like that - I want them to do what they want to - they've made so much great music, they haven't gone all Radiohead on us (and I love Radiohead, the new stuff is ok, but iron lung just came on my ipod randomly yesterday night, as I was walking back from work, wow what an amazing song) These new songs and new direction is what they want to do and they're still making great songs that are not acid jazz or whatever obscure genre. As for the lyrics - hey it's not easy, plus for a concept album - you really need to listen to the whole album to understand what the context of both the song and the lyrics really mean. It's a story/opera/musical of sorts. Paradise is the hopes and expectations of the girl in the story - it's not what she expected. I love Death and all his friends - but lyrically - there's not much quantity but it's simple and effective, i think paradise is along the same lines. ETIAW lyrically is about having hope and trying to see things in a positive light despite the Major Minus world they live (maybe that's why MM is titled that, the opposing force to the positivity that the characters r trying to create). Music and art are liberating, and can be used as a positive revolutionary force - the main protagonist has hope and is inspired by his new love and this new movement of spraycan soul he is a part of - it gives him life and passion to make sure that people can overcome whatever's holding them down. That's what i take from these two songs w/in the context of the album. I think they're brilliant as well as the other songs. This album may be another one of their masterpieces (viva was amazing for sure) and another great addition to their next trilogy (perhaps their Empire Strikes Back (original) not the 5th version/edited crap of course) Viva la Coldplay! __________________ All that sound....

22-09-2011, 03:35 PM	#59
neonhorn22 Music Lover Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,967 My Mood: Location: NWA Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Space Cadet;4973292 Oh, there's always been divided opinion when something was new, at least from X&Y on. People fought. People came and left. There have always been immature fans who took things too seriously and people who liked to wind those fans up. I haven't bothered to check much of it (why bother? it can't be good for you psychologically), but from what I've seen, the level of vitrol is new. But it's exactly like that across the entire internet now. I can't think of a single board for anything I used to be on 10 years ago that hasn't had a serious downgrade in civility within the last 3 years. I guess it's just a new generation of kids with a new set of expectations. A deep breath and a grain of salt go a long way. Yes, couldn't agree more. I wish those with nothing but negative things to say about all their singles and this album would just state their opinion and then leave. I'm fine with opinions, but it's honestly getting silly having to listen to "ETIAW sux!!111 Coldplay r crap!!" posts at every turn. And this is coming from someone who didn't like ETIAW or Paradise on the initial listens. But, they have grown on me and I'm starting to be open to this new direction. I know people have a right to be here...but if those people openly hate Coldplay's new direction, then why are they still here posting hate? I didn't particularly like Glen Ballard's hand in producing Dave Matthews Band back when "Every Day" came out and then everything after that just fell short for me, but I didn't stick around the fansite I frequented and beat a dead horse about how I hated it. I quietly left, moved on, and found a new band to rave about.

22-09-2011, 03:41 PM	#60
VivaGroaning Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 192 Location: Maria Lankowitz, Austria Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by admnistramation;4973188 We're brutally honest. Debs, I want you and the boys to know that Paradise makes me feel like you're trying to tell us that we can't handle lyrical depth. It's kind of insulting and it makes me not want to purchase the album. Have you no shame? There are better ways to please everyone; Coldplay will release whatever they want and the sheep fanboys and fangirls will eat it up. Why not kill two birds with one stone and give us some better lyrics? lyrical depth? coldplay have always been bad with lyrics (expect maybe some few songs on VLV). come on. i also don't get the synth sound - pop accusations. in paradise they simply incorporated some nice synths within their sound. I mean it's all still there, the piano, the guitar (at the end). And it's not like they turned from alternative rock to pop with this phase. They have always been the most pop of rock bands and knew that. I don't get all the hate surrounding this phase - I mean let's compare it to X&Y which really was a too long, unimaginative and structure-repeating combination of tracks. In that phase they were only trying to recreate what made them big - and totally hit the lowpoint of their career for me (except some songs like of course Fix You..) - with Mylo Xyloto they're definetely trying to recreate their sound, which is, like it or not, a good thing.