Does it really matter if it was Plagiarised or Sampled? - Page 6

Odvan · 05-06-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Debs Wild;4810269
I haven't read past first post admittedly but for your info guys:

Chris was inspired to write Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall after hearing some chords in a nightclub scene in Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu's film Biutiful (2010).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biutiful

The chords in the film are part of a track that is based on "I Go To Rio" written by Peter Allen and Adrienne Anderson, released by Peter Allen in 1976.

Actually, no.

According to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1164999/soundtrack

they heard exactly "Ritmo de la Noche". Jeez Christ.

Reilly · 05-06-2011, 05:37 PM

^Hahahaha! That's what I've been saying all along, and because it was coming from their PA, I almost thought "Well, surely she knows better" but then thought "No wait, they definitely heard THIS song, not that Rio one".

Oh Debs.

MartinFan · 05-06-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Odvan;4814708
Actually, no.

According to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1164999/soundtrack

they heard exactly "Ritmo de la Noche". Jeez Christ.

She didn't say Peter Allen sang it in this movie, "Ritmo de la Noche" was done by Lorca, but they ONLY sang it, Peter Allen wrote and performed this song in the 70's when you were not even thought about yet, so that is why they are listed as the writers, Peter Allen also wrote the music for it. Coldplay sampled a taste of it, and there's nothing wrong with that. For those of you who like Hugh Jackman he portrayed Peter in a musical on Broadway and sang this same song.

Here's Peter singing it.

http://youtu.be/Kgq1g-2cQ54

LFDianne · 05-06-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Reilly;4815001
^Hahahaha! That's what I've been saying all along, and because it was coming from their PA, I almost thought "Well, surely she knows better" but then thought "No wait, they definitely heard THIS song, not that Rio one".

Oh Debs.

Why are you so many of you so quick to dis Debs? As Tracey points out, Debs is correct. "Ritmo de la Noce" is BASED on I Go to Rio.

"Ritmo de la Noche"
Performed by Lorca
Written by Harry Castioni, Alex Joerg Christensen, B. Lagonda, Wycombe, Peter Allen, Adrian Anderson
Courtesy of BLOOPER Production
Publishing HANSEATIC MUSIKVERLAG GMBH & CO KG/WARNER CHAPPELL MUSIC GERMANY/Rondor Musikverlag GMBH Universal Music Publishing,
S.A. De C.V.

AND

"I Go to Rio" is a popular song written by Peter Allen and Adrian Anderson, and performed by Allen. It became a signature song of Allen, as well as being covered by Peggy Lee and Pablo Cruise, among others, in addition to being subject to multiple soundtrack inclusions.

Reilly · 05-06-2011, 10:45 PM

What she said in that quote is fine, but after she said that I brought up that Coldplay most certainly heard the shitty club version first, she said this was ridiculous and wrong.

Odvan · 06-06-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinFan;4815065
She didn't say Peter Allen sang it in this movie, "Ritmo de la Noche" was done by Lorca, but they ONLY sang it, Peter Allen wrote and performed this song in the 70's when you were not even thought about yet, so that is why they are listed as the writers, Peter Allen also wrote the music for it. Coldplay sampled a taste of it, and there's nothing wrong with that. For those of you who like Hugh Jackman he portrayed Peter in a musical on Broadway and sang this same song.

Here's Peter singing it.

http://youtu.be/Kgq1g-2cQ54

Coldplay heard "Ritmo de la Noche", not "I'm go to Rio". The rest is just rights crap. The fact is Teardrop was "inspired" by "Ritmo de la Noche", crap cover for another song. See the difference.

05-06-2011, 02:46 PM	#76
Odvan Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 447 Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Debs Wild;4810269 I haven't read past first post admittedly but for your info guys: Chris was inspired to write Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall after hearing some chords in a nightclub scene in Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu's film Biutiful (2010). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biutiful The chords in the film are part of a track that is based on "I Go To Rio" written by Peter Allen and Adrienne Anderson, released by Peter Allen in 1976. Actually, no. According to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1164999/soundtrack they heard exactly "Ritmo de la Noche". Jeez Christ.

05-06-2011, 05:37 PM	#77
Reilly District 9er Badazz!11111 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 36,228 Chat posts: 570 Thanks given: 49 Thanked 374 Times in 224 Posts	^Hahahaha! That's what I've been saying all along, and because it was coming from their PA, I almost thought "Well, surely she knows better" but then thought "No wait, they definitely heard THIS song, not that Rio one". Oh Debs. __________________ This door... ...needs some WD-40. Quote: Originally Posted by Fix42YellowClocks I cannot argue my point of the seemingly conflicting idea of why I have the right to argue people shouldn't be allowed to tell Coldplay to stop expressing themselves without a fundamental argument to the freedoms we enjoy. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

05-06-2011, 05:59 PM	#78
MartinFan One I Love Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,770 My Mood: Location: Florida Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 554 Thanked 213 Times in 116 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Odvan;4814708 Actually, no. According to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1164999/soundtrack they heard exactly "Ritmo de la Noche". Jeez Christ. She didn't say Peter Allen sang it in this movie, "Ritmo de la Noche" was done by Lorca, but they ONLY sang it, Peter Allen wrote and performed this song in the 70's when you were not even thought about yet, so that is why they are listed as the writers, Peter Allen also wrote the music for it. Coldplay sampled a taste of it, and there's nothing wrong with that. For those of you who like Hugh Jackman he portrayed Peter in a musical on Broadway and sang this same song. Here's Peter singing it. http://youtu.be/Kgq1g-2cQ54 __________________ Light's will guide you home and ignite your bones and I will try to Fix You.... Chris Martin Munich, Germany 2012 QUOTE: "THAT'S TEAMWORK, MOTHER FUCKER!"

05-06-2011, 09:58 PM	#79
LFDianne Biggest Will Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,813 My Mood: Location: Standing next to Will at KROQ, Los Angeles Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 25 Thanked 260 Times in 93 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Reilly;4815001 ^Hahahaha! That's what I've been saying all along, and because it was coming from their PA, I almost thought "Well, surely she knows better" but then thought "No wait, they definitely heard THIS song, not that Rio one". Oh Debs. Why are you so many of you so quick to dis Debs? As Tracey points out, Debs is correct. "Ritmo de la Noce" is BASED on I Go to Rio. "Ritmo de la Noche" Performed by Lorca Written by Harry Castioni, Alex Joerg Christensen, B. Lagonda, Wycombe, Peter Allen, Adrian Anderson Courtesy of BLOOPER Production Publishing HANSEATIC MUSIKVERLAG GMBH & CO KG/WARNER CHAPPELL MUSIC GERMANY/Rondor Musikverlag GMBH Universal Music Publishing, S.A. De C.V. AND "I Go to Rio" is a popular song written by Peter Allen and Adrian Anderson, and performed by Allen. It became a signature song of Allen, as well as being covered by Peggy Lee and Pablo Cruise, among others, in addition to being subject to multiple soundtrack inclusions. __________________ Dianne 08/20/05 Irvine 2/06/06 Anaheim 7/14/08 Inglewood 11/25/08 Anaheim 7/18/09 Carson 07/19/09 Irvine 8/3/11 UCLA 9/15/11 Austin City Limits Taping 9/16/11 Austin City Limits Festival 10/17/11 the ellen show taping 10/18/11 KROQ studio, LA 2/8/12 Club Nokia 2/9/12 Jimmy Kimmel 4/28/12 San Jose 5/1/12 Hollywood Bowl 5/2/12 Hollywood Bow 5/3/12 American Idol Taping 5/4/12 Hollywood Bowl 5/5/12 KROQ Weenie Roast 6/28/12 Tampa 6/29/12 Miami 12/30/12 BROOKLYN, NY!!!

05-06-2011, 10:45 PM	#80
Reilly District 9er Badazz!11111 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 36,228 Chat posts: 570 Thanks given: 49 Thanked 374 Times in 224 Posts	What she said in that quote is fine, but after she said that I brought up that Coldplay most certainly heard the shitty club version first, she said this was ridiculous and wrong. __________________ This door... ...needs some WD-40. Quote: Originally Posted by Fix42YellowClocks I cannot argue my point of the seemingly conflicting idea of why I have the right to argue people shouldn't be allowed to tell Coldplay to stop expressing themselves without a fundamental argument to the freedoms we enjoy. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

06-06-2011, 09:04 AM	#81
Odvan Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 447 Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by MartinFan;4815065 She didn't say Peter Allen sang it in this movie, "Ritmo de la Noche" was done by Lorca, but they ONLY sang it, Peter Allen wrote and performed this song in the 70's when you were not even thought about yet, so that is why they are listed as the writers, Peter Allen also wrote the music for it. Coldplay sampled a taste of it, and there's nothing wrong with that. For those of you who like Hugh Jackman he portrayed Peter in a musical on Broadway and sang this same song. Here's Peter singing it. http://youtu.be/Kgq1g-2cQ54 Coldplay heard "Ritmo de la Noche", not "I'm go to Rio". The rest is just rights crap. The fact is Teardrop was "inspired" by "Ritmo de la Noche", crap cover for another song. See the difference.