Music mood muted despite Lady Gaga, R.E.M., U2 and Coldplay more big albums

busybeeburns · 27-01-2011, 08:08 AM

Music mood muted despite Lady Gaga, more big albums

(Reuters) - When even Lady Gaga can't lift the gloom, you know the music industry is in the doldrums.

Despite a release schedule that includes the reigning queen of pop, Britney Spears, R.E.M., U2 and Coldplay, record labels are bracing themselves for another tough year.

Universal Music Group, Sony Music Entertainment, Warner Music Group and EMI -- the market leaders -- struggled in 2010 as they have for a decade, hampered by online piracy, shrinking retail space and an inability to adapt to technological change.

Global recorded music sales overall slumped by nine percent last year, and figures out last week estimated that some 19 of 20 tracks downloaded from the Internet were illegal.

The scale of piracy and other challenges suggest that no matter which artists are competing for chart supremacy, 2011 sales are virtually guaranteed to extend their long slide.

"I don't see any indication that record sales are going to improve, because it's got nothing to do with the quality of the music," said U.S. music critic Robert Christgau in a blunt assessment of the business prospects.

That does not make release schedules irrelevant, with companies still hopeful their artists will rise to the top and repay their time and investment. Top of the pile is widely tipped to be "pop provocateur" Lady Gaga with "Born This Way," due out on May 23. Not one to shy away from the hype, the singer has called it "my absolute greatest work I've ever done."

Combined sales of her "The Fame," "The Fame Monster" and a remix album have reached 15 million, a hefty figure even in pre-crisis days, and with more touring planned, Forbes predicts the 24-year-old could earn over $100 million this year.

"She's just hitting her stride artistically and commercially now," entertainment attorney Bernie Resnick told Forbes. "We're only seeing the beginning."

ROCK'S SHOT IN THE ARM

Other established solo female artists vying for attention include 29-year-old Spears, who releases a new album in March. Lead single "Hold It Against Me" has just debuted atop the U.S. singles chart with impressive sales.

Canada's Avril Lavigne is back on March 8 with "Goodbye Lullaby," and there are hopes of new material at last from Amy Winehouse, whose troubled personal life has overshadowed the success of Grammy-winning 2006 hit "Back to Black."

The struggling rock genre is set to get a welcome shot in the arm in 2011 with the first album from The Strokes since 2006's "First Impressions of Earth."

The acclaimed New Yorkers tentatively titled "Angles" is due to hit stores on March 22, and, according to NME magazine's Jamie Fullerton "it's almost make or break time for Julian (Casablancas) and co. with album four" after so long away.

Also falling into the broad rock category are two of the biggest bands in the world -- Coldplay and U2 -- who both expect to release records in 2011.

Foo Fighters and R.E.M. are back, and, in Britain at least, Beady Eye, formed from the now disbanded Oasis, will generate plenty of buzz with debut album "Different Gear, Still Speeding" due out on February 28.

As well as promoting talent, record bosses will be seeking more deals with mobile firms and music websites. Digital sales actually rose six percent to $4.6 billion last year, taking their share of record label trade revenues to 29 percent.

The labels are keen to see the launch of a Google Inc download store in 2011 to rival Apple Inc's dominant iTunes, which would help them wrest some control back over pricing and draw new users to the digital market.

The record company landscape could be in for big changes over the next 12 months, with EMI facing a debt deadline with Citigroup that raises the prospect of the group's assets being sold off.

Shares in Warner also rose nearly 30 percent at the end of last week on news that it was looking for potential buyers.

http://www.reuters.com/

deaths_friend · 27-01-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by busybeeburns;4683044

(Reuters) - When even Lady Gaga can't lift the gloom, you know the music industry is in the doldrums.

http://www.reuters.com/

the music industry should not be confused with the record industry. the music industry is made up of the record industry and live music industry. records are going terrible and everyone knows that but live music is rising by the day and more than compensates for the lack of CD sales. if anything the music industry is doing better than ever.

hotdensestate · 27-01-2011, 02:21 PM

What is this article talking about... there are lots of awesome records coming out this year and of course the record companies aren't making as much as they'd like from them, on account of how they're all going extinct. Lol.

alejolo · 27-01-2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotdensestate;4683212
What is this article talking about... there are lots of awesome records coming out this year and of course the record companies aren't making as much as they'd like from them, on account of how they're all going extinct. Lol.

I think that the point of the article is that , although amazing albums and high profile CDS ( Coldplay , gaga , britney , u2 , beyonce etc ) are beeing released , they are preparing to have even lower numbers than in 2010 ( that didnt have releases that big )

howyousawtheworld · 27-01-2011, 03:38 PM

Makes me wonder how Coldplay have managed to shift over 50 million albums in 10 years. That's a staggering figure.

hotdensestate · 27-01-2011, 04:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by alejolo;4683222
I think that the point of the article is that , although amazing albums and high profile CDS ( Coldplay , gaga , britney , u2 , beyonce etc ) are beeing released , they are preparing to have even lower numbers than in 2010 ( that didnt have releases that big )

Yeah, I guess. I suppose my view of the music industry is just what awesome albums I can look forward to pirating anyway, instead of actually scrutinizing the record business itself. It's weird how little I care about the record companies themselves, I'd frankly rather just pirate music and donate directly to the bands, stuff like that, than support the record business as a whole.

alejolo · 27-01-2011, 04:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4683269
Makes me wonder how Coldplay have managed to shift over 50 million records in 10 years. That's a staggering figure.

Fixed it for ya

. I find it hilarious that they continue to sell albums amazingly though .. IMO its easier to sell records now a days

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotdensestate;4683342
Yeah, I guess. I suppose my view of the music industry is just what awesome albums I can look forward to pirating anyway, instead of actually scrutinizing the record business itself. It's weird how little I care about the record companies themselves, I'd frankly rather just pirate music and donate directly to the bands, stuff like that, than support the record business as a whole.

I just ilegally download all the albums that i want , and basically the bands that im fan of , i just buy their records ( but they are artist I really love )

Tha thing with doing that , if , do you actually believe people would donate the artist the money + download the album for free . They might propose that ( of course is not going to happen ) but , after a while , no one would donate.

Plus , bascially lets say that Coldplay gets 2.5 dollars at the best of the 10 dollars of the cds .. It wouldnt work donating the money to Coldplay when Record labels dont get anything (plus they kinda need the money for the producers studio promotions etc )

Megalomania · 27-01-2011, 05:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by alejolo;4683397

Tha thing with doing that , if , do you actually believe people would donate the artist the money + download the album for free . They might propose that ( of course is not going to happen ) but , after a while , no one would donate.

Yeah, I agree. Only the serious fans would actually donate the money. Out of 100 or so people I know that also know Coldplay for example (just because they're very popular here) only maybe 5 would donate money if they had the option of free download and donation.

And it would be even more difficult for new artists to rise to fame, if everyone used that system. They're the ones that need the money, and they would probably get the least donations.

alejolo · 27-01-2011, 05:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Showbiz;4683409
Yeah, I agree. Only the serious fans would actually donate the money. Out of 100 or so people I know that also know Coldplay for example (just because they're very popular here) only maybe 5 would donate money if they had the option of free download and donation.

And it would be even more difficult for new artists to rise to fame, if everyone used that system. They're the ones that need the money, and they would probably get the least donations.

ya + the fact that , usually when you buy a record , you are giving 80% of that money to the record label , and actually only about 20% ( if they have a very good deal) to the real artist . So there is no way the record label its going to give away that 80% away , and give all of the profits to the artists ( plus its not fair , they usually pay the producers , the making of the booklets cds , promotion ( they fix arrange dates) tour costs etc .. ) .

There is no way that is happening , at least soon

deaths_friend · 28-01-2011, 05:18 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4683269
Makes me wonder how Coldplay have managed to shift over 50 million albums in 10 years. That's a staggering figure.

coldplay arrived on the scene at the perfect time. when the band hit superstardom in 2003, CD sales were at all time highs. ever since 2003 CD sales have fallen dramatically and consequently so have coldplays.

also, both linkin park and norah jones have sold 50 million in the last 10 years.

Italian Plastic · 28-01-2011, 05:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by alejolo;4683397
Fixed it for ya . I find it hilarious that they continue to sell albums amazingly though .. IMO its easier to sell records now a days

I would be quite surprised if they sold 50 million records...

So, the music industry is booming but the record industry is dying? whatever.
I saw an interview with Bradford Cox (Deerhunter, Atlas Sound) and even though Deerhunter are quite a large band in the indie world, he doesn't make enough money from album sales to pay rent, buy food etc. It's the live shows/merchandise that give him enough money to make a living.
I like it this way. It means i can illegally download albums without feeling bad!!

(actually, recently I downloaded a lot of Jeffrey Lewis albums and I felt bad because he is definitely not that famous and I won't be able to see him any time soon so I bought a t-shirt online. more people should do that)

deaths_friend · 28-01-2011, 05:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Italian Plastic;4684187
I would be quite surprised if they sold 50 million records...

So, the music industry is booming but the record industry is dying? whatever.
I saw an interview with Bradford Cox (Deerhunter, Atlas Sound) and even though Deerhunter are quite a large band in the indie world, he doesn't make enough money from album sales to pay rent, buy food etc. It's the live shows/merchandise that give him enough money to make a living.
I like it this way. It means i can illegally download albums without feeling bad!!

(actually, recently I downloaded a lot of Jeffrey Lewis albums and I felt bad because he is definitely not that famous and I won't be able to see him any time soon so I bought a t-shirt online. more people should do that)

50 million is how many they have shipped. meaning thats how many EMI has sent to retailers and the like. how many have ended in hands of consumers is harder to measure.

and just cos one band or artist is struggling doesnt mean the industry as a whole is hurting. it just means its become a tougher industry to be a part of.

now i can only provide an australian perspective so here are some vital stats according to Live Performance Australia

In 2004 music festivals were attended by 190 000 people and saw a revenue of $9million. In 2008 that rose to 1.2 milion people and revenue of over $66 million. that has plateaued in the following years.

In 2004 pop and rock concerts (so basically the shows most of us here would go to) had a total attendence of 2.7 million and revenue of close to $200 million. By 2009 that figure rose 4.6 million people and $460 million in revenue. In 2007 it actually close the half billion mark. The subsequent global financial crisis caused the dip in revenue.

from where i sit the numbers speak for themselves.

Megalomania · 28-01-2011, 09:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by deaths_friend;4684190

In 2004 pop and rock concerts (so basically the shows most of us here would go to) had a total attendence of 2.7 million and revenue of close to $200 million. By 2009 that figure rose 4.6 million people and $460 million in revenue. In 2007 it actually close the half billion mark. The subsequent global financial crisis caused the dip in revenue.

from where i sit the numbers speak for themselves.

Wow, that's pretty impressive!

hotdensestate · 28-01-2011, 09:46 PM

That's awesome, actually, as touring is where most bands get their money. I'm surprised it's risen so much recently.

Just goes to support my theory that illegal downloading gets the band more tour money -> more actual money ;D

alejolo · 28-01-2011, 11:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Italian Plastic;4684187
I would be quite surprised if they sold 50 million records...

Im referring to Records As ( singles + CDS ) and album sales as album sales only

.

I mean , of course its impressive to sell 50 million of both , or albums or singles or both . Its quite an impressibe achivement that is way to hard to surpass ( thought there are quite a few artists that have done that ) but what i was saying is that , now a days its easier to sell singles than albums .

For example Rihanna. Rihanna has sold like 70 million records . 50 million of those are coming from single sales , and 20 million from albums . (rihanna has released 5 albums + re releases etc in her career )

i find it hilarious that coldplay are the ones who actually continue to amass album sales instead of single ones

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27-01-2011, 08:22 AM	#2
deaths_friend Man Utd 2011 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,954 Location: sydney Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by busybeeburns;4683044 (Reuters) - When even Lady Gaga can't lift the gloom, you know the music industry is in the doldrums. http://www.reuters.com/ the music industry should not be confused with the record industry. the music industry is made up of the record industry and live music industry. records are going terrible and everyone knows that but live music is rising by the day and more than compensates for the lack of CD sales. if anything the music industry is doing better than ever. __________________ COMPLETE FESTIVAL GUIDE 2011

27-01-2011, 02:21 PM	#3
hotdensestate shakeyourheadit'sempty Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,613 Location: In Limbo Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What is this article talking about... there are lots of awesome records coming out this year and of course the record companies aren't making as much as they'd like from them, on account of how they're all going extinct. Lol. __________________ and everybody here is a cloud, and everybody here will evaporate

27-01-2011, 02:32 PM	#4
alejolo Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 438 Location: Rolling in the deep Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by hotdensestate;4683212 What is this article talking about... there are lots of awesome records coming out this year and of course the record companies aren't making as much as they'd like from them, on account of how they're all going extinct. Lol. I think that the point of the article is that , although amazing albums and high profile CDS ( Coldplay , gaga , britney , u2 , beyonce etc ) are beeing released , they are preparing to have even lower numbers than in 2010 ( that didnt have releases that big ) __________________

27-01-2011, 04:13 PM	#6
hotdensestate shakeyourheadit'sempty Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,613 Location: In Limbo Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by alejolo;4683222 I think that the point of the article is that , although amazing albums and high profile CDS ( Coldplay , gaga , britney , u2 , beyonce etc ) are beeing released , they are preparing to have even lower numbers than in 2010 ( that didnt have releases that big ) Yeah, I guess. I suppose my view of the music industry is just what awesome albums I can look forward to pirating anyway, instead of actually scrutinizing the record business itself. It's weird how little I care about the record companies themselves, I'd frankly rather just pirate music and donate directly to the bands, stuff like that, than support the record business as a whole. __________________ and everybody here is a cloud, and everybody here will evaporate

27-01-2011, 03:38 PM	#5
howyousawtheworld Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,757 Location: Scotland Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 13 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Makes me wonder how Coldplay have managed to shift over 50 million albums in 10 years. That's a staggering figure.

27-01-2011, 04:52 PM	#7
alejolo Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 438 Location: Rolling in the deep Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4683269 Makes me wonder how Coldplay have managed to shift over 50 million records* in 10 years. That's a staggering figure.* Fixed it for ya . I find it hilarious that they continue to sell albums amazingly though .. IMO its easier to sell records now a days Quote: Originally Posted by hotdensestate;4683342 Yeah, I guess. I suppose my view of the music industry is just what awesome albums I can look forward to pirating anyway, instead of actually scrutinizing the record business itself. It's weird how little I care about the record companies themselves, I'd frankly rather just pirate music and donate directly to the bands, stuff like that, than support the record business as a whole. I just ilegally download all the albums that i want , and basically the bands that im fan of , i just buy their records ( but they are artist I really love ) Tha thing with doing that , if , do you actually believe people would donate the artist the money + download the album for free . They might propose that ( of course is not going to happen ) but , after a while , no one would donate. Plus , bascially lets say that Coldplay gets 2.5 dollars at the best of the 10 dollars of the cds .. It wouldnt work donating the money to Coldplay when Record labels dont get anything (plus they kinda need the money for the producers studio promotions etc ) __________________

27-01-2011, 05:10 PM	#8
Megalomania Reichenbach Hero Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 51,748 My Mood: Location: 221b Baker Street Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 26 Thanked 31 Times in 23 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by alejolo;4683397 Tha thing with doing that , if , do you actually believe people would donate the artist the money + download the album for free . They might propose that ( of course is not going to happen ) but , after a while , no one would donate. Yeah, I agree. Only the serious fans would actually donate the money. Out of 100 or so people I know that also know Coldplay for example (just because they're very popular here) only maybe 5 would donate money if they had the option of free download and donation. And it would be even more difficult for new artists to rise to fame, if everyone used that system. They're the ones that need the money, and they would probably get the least donations. __________________ Do you know the big problem with a disguise, Mr. Holmes? However hard you try, it's always a self-portrait. You think I'm a vicar with a bleeding face? No, I think you're damaged, delusional and believe in a higher power. In your case it's yourself. ♥tumblr ♥twitter

27-01-2011, 05:32 PM	#9
alejolo Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 438 Location: Rolling in the deep Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Showbiz;4683409 Yeah, I agree. Only the serious fans would actually donate the money. Out of 100 or so people I know that also know Coldplay for example (just because they're very popular here) only maybe 5 would donate money if they had the option of free download and donation. And it would be even more difficult for new artists to rise to fame, if everyone used that system. They're the ones that need the money, and they would probably get the least donations. ya + the fact that , usually when you buy a record , you are giving 80% of that money to the record label , and actually only about 20% ( if they have a very good deal) to the real artist . So there is no way the record label its going to give away that 80% away , and give all of the profits to the artists ( plus its not fair , they usually pay the producers , the making of the booklets cds , promotion ( they fix arrange dates) tour costs etc .. ) . There is no way that is happening , at least soon __________________

28-01-2011, 05:18 AM	#10
deaths_friend Man Utd 2011 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,954 Location: sydney Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4683269 Makes me wonder how Coldplay have managed to shift over 50 million albums in 10 years. That's a staggering figure. coldplay arrived on the scene at the perfect time. when the band hit superstardom in 2003, CD sales were at all time highs. ever since 2003 CD sales have fallen dramatically and consequently so have coldplays. also, both linkin park and norah jones have sold 50 million in the last 10 years. __________________ COMPLETE FESTIVAL GUIDE 2011

28-01-2011, 05:26 AM	#11
Italian Plastic 'til infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 11,186 Country: Chat posts: 3 Thanks given: 365 Thanked 220 Times in 119 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by alejolo;4683397 Fixed it for ya . I find it hilarious that they continue to sell albums amazingly though .. IMO its easier to sell records now a days I would be quite surprised if they sold 50 million records... So, the music industry is booming but the record industry is dying? whatever. I saw an interview with Bradford Cox (Deerhunter, Atlas Sound) and even though Deerhunter are quite a large band in the indie world, he doesn't make enough money from album sales to pay rent, buy food etc. It's the live shows/merchandise that give him enough money to make a living. I like it this way. It means i can illegally download albums without feeling bad!! (actually, recently I downloaded a lot of Jeffrey Lewis albums and I felt bad because he is definitely not that famous and I won't be able to see him any time soon so I bought a t-shirt online. more people should do that) __________________ .

28-01-2011, 05:39 AM	#12
deaths_friend Man Utd 2011 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,954 Location: sydney Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Italian Plastic;4684187 I would be quite surprised if they sold 50 million records... So, the music industry is booming but the record industry is dying? whatever. I saw an interview with Bradford Cox (Deerhunter, Atlas Sound) and even though Deerhunter are quite a large band in the indie world, he doesn't make enough money from album sales to pay rent, buy food etc. It's the live shows/merchandise that give him enough money to make a living. I like it this way. It means i can illegally download albums without feeling bad!! (actually, recently I downloaded a lot of Jeffrey Lewis albums and I felt bad because he is definitely not that famous and I won't be able to see him any time soon so I bought a t-shirt online. more people should do that) 50 million is how many they have shipped. meaning thats how many EMI has sent to retailers and the like. how many have ended in hands of consumers is harder to measure. and just cos one band or artist is struggling doesnt mean the industry as a whole is hurting. it just means its become a tougher industry to be a part of. now i can only provide an australian perspective so here are some vital stats according to Live Performance Australia In 2004 music festivals were attended by 190 000 people and saw a revenue of $9million. In 2008 that rose to 1.2 milion people and revenue of over $66 million. that has plateaued in the following years. In 2004 pop and rock concerts (so basically the shows most of us here would go to) had a total attendence of 2.7 million and revenue of close to $200 million. By 2009 that figure rose 4.6 million people and $460 million in revenue. In 2007 it actually close the half billion mark. The subsequent global financial crisis caused the dip in revenue. from where i sit the numbers speak for themselves. __________________ COMPLETE FESTIVAL GUIDE 2011

28-01-2011, 09:21 PM	#13
Megalomania Reichenbach Hero Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 51,748 My Mood: Location: 221b Baker Street Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 26 Thanked 31 Times in 23 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by deaths_friend;4684190 In 2004 pop and rock concerts (so basically the shows most of us here would go to) had a total attendence of 2.7 million and revenue of close to $200 million. By 2009 that figure rose 4.6 million people and $460 million in revenue. In 2007 it actually close the half billion mark. The subsequent global financial crisis caused the dip in revenue. from where i sit the numbers speak for themselves. Wow, that's pretty impressive! __________________ Do you know the big problem with a disguise, Mr. Holmes? However hard you try, it's always a self-portrait. You think I'm a vicar with a bleeding face? No, I think you're damaged, delusional and believe in a higher power. In your case it's yourself. ♥tumblr ♥twitter

28-01-2011, 09:46 PM	#14
hotdensestate shakeyourheadit'sempty Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,613 Location: In Limbo Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's awesome, actually, as touring is where most bands get their money. I'm surprised it's risen so much recently. Just goes to support my theory that illegal downloading gets the band more tour money -> more actual money ;D __________________ and everybody here is a cloud, and everybody here will evaporate

28-01-2011, 11:38 PM	#15
alejolo Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 438 Location: Rolling in the deep Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Italian Plastic;4684187 I would be quite surprised if they sold 50 million records... Im referring to Records As ( singles + CDS ) and album sales as album sales only . I mean , of course its impressive to sell 50 million of both , or albums or singles or both . Its quite an impressibe achivement that is way to hard to surpass ( thought there are quite a few artists that have done that ) but what i was saying is that , now a days its easier to sell singles than albums . For example Rihanna. Rihanna has sold like 70 million records . 50 million of those are coming from single sales , and 20 million from albums . (rihanna has released 5 albums + re releases etc in her career ) i find it hilarious that coldplay are the ones who actually continue to amass album sales instead of single ones __________________