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ViVA Child · 26-10-2010, 12:57 AM

If you guys get this upset over verbal abuse I cant imagine how you would take news of it to its fullest extent.

Where the hell were people like this when I was growing up?

the_gloaming09 · 26-10-2010, 01:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ViVA Child;4506545
If you guys get this upset over verbal abuse I cant imagine how you would take news of it to its fullest extent.

Where the hell were people like this when I was growing up?

I think it's just the thought that your parents could be so disrespectful/say hateful things is what gets me angry w/ this thread.

I can only imagine the kinds of things that may have been said

ViVA Child · 26-10-2010, 01:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_gloaming09;4506575
I think it's just the thought that your parents could be so disrespectful/say hateful things is what gets me angry w/ this thread.

I can only imagine the kinds of things that may have been said

wow.... and this is just over verbal stuff

its weird to see you and Kels and others on here ...taking such... i dk.... concern

Especially since all while growing up... it was always ...

well people cared way... WAY less

about things much worse than this....

You shouldve seen what it was like at my schools

absolute scandal

someone couldve sued their asses of for the shit that went down

the_gloaming09 · 26-10-2010, 02:03 AM

It was more than just verbal abuse?... that's fucked up.

I think we have concern because I think we believe that parents should love their children to the fullest. I think she (kels) has a lot of concern for the topic because she is a new mother, and I'm sure could never picture herself acting to her child as people on this thread have described themselves treated. Of course I can't speak for her, but I'd imagine that's why.

I think why it angers me so much is because it's unfair to you to have to go through such abuse, when in fact there was nothing that you did wrong.

I'm sure that most people would agree that regardless of the situation it isn't right to treat your children like that especially at such an important developmental age.

ViVA Child · 26-10-2010, 02:35 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_gloaming09;4506628

I think why it angers me so much is because it's unfair to you to have to go through such abuse, when in fact there was nothing that you did wrong.
.

knowing that you did nothing wrong makes it worse

at least when your a kid and you blame yourself you think ... if your just good enough... it will get better

when you know its the parent
when you become more angry than afraid
it builds in you and your sort of boxed into it and its horrible ...its got to be one of the worst feelings ever

Typically any sort of abuse is a thankless thing to overcome

either someone will expect you to "let it go" and not talk about it cuz it was in your childhood or whatever
or.... if it is appauling enough....

they just dont believe you at all, because its easier then believeing certain things can accutually go on as they do, and that said person is so close to it as to be told it from someone who experianced it.

And dont even get me started on the grey area between "discapline" and "abuse"

the whole thing just sucks.

Arwen Evenstar · 26-10-2010, 02:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ViVA Child;4506611
wow.... and this is just over verbal stuff

its weird to see you and Kels and others on here ...taking such... i dk.... concern

Especially since all while growing up... it was always ...

well people cared way... WAY less

about things much worse than this....

You shouldve seen what it was like at my schools

absolute scandal

someone couldve sued their asses of for the shit that went down

my parents swear at me all the time, I guess that's why I am so concerned about this, I don't want anyone else feeling what I am feeling.

xxKels · 26-10-2010, 05:38 AM

Ok , i post some measly little comment AGAIN and its like the third thread in days where my post gets juggled over back and forth , i quit !!

But- ,Viva- yes I may be sensitive right now because of having Liam, but not really. verbal abuse is JUST as damaging as any other- I was close to it and still see the daily effects it reeks upon loved ones. The abuse ended ages ago, but the torment it caused still leaves one i love hurting, and trying to kill them self even now from it all. Bruises and broken bones are the end result of many years of verbal abuse. It does not get better. Knowing this- hearing of any of the treatment like I hear about in this thread, just scares the piss out of me- knowing what is down the road. So OF COURSE I BLOODY GET WOUND UP WHEN I HEAR OF VERBAL "STUFF".
But, I'll pray for you both and all- and if you need an ear to listen/pm me. If you need help, I'm your advocate. Anytime.
Good luck and God be with you.

ViVA Child · 26-10-2010, 05:59 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxKels;4506715
Ok , i post some measly little comment AGAIN and its like the third thread in days where my post gets juggled over back and forth , i quit !!

But- ,Viva- yes I may be sensitive right now because of having Liam, but not really. verbal abuse is JUST as damaging as any other- I was close to it and still see the daily effects it reeks upon loved ones. The abuse ended ages ago, but the torment it caused still leaves one i love hurting, and trying to kill them self even now from it all. Bruises and broken bones are the end result of many years of verbal abuse. It does not get better. Knowing this- hearing of any of the treatment like I hear about in this thread, just scares the piss out of me- knowing what is down the road. So OF COURSE I BLOODY GET WOUND UP WHEN I HEAR OF VERBAL "STUFF".
But, I'll pray for you both and all- and if you need an ear to listen/pm me. If you need help, I'm your advocate. Anytime.
Good luck and God be with you.

.....are you referring to ME judging your post?

I dont want you to think I was being critical of your concern or anything, I think its a good thing, its how people SHOULD react imo...

its how I at first thought people would react to something like that .... sadly that is most often not the case.... the fact that I found it unusuall really says a lot about our society ... or maybe just everyone surrounding me as I grew up doesnt it?

I was just trying to say its new to me to see people caring like that.

ps.
"I'll pray for you both" <-- who exactly are you referring to? Hotdensestate right...no..yes... idk ?

xxKels · 26-10-2010, 06:50 AM

no- im not saying anyone was judging ! Not at all. !
It IS how people should react- any thing less to me makes them just as guilty as an abuser !
And yes- I was referring to both you and Hotdensestate. And anyone else here who is hurting from abuse !
But, my offer stands.

muzika · 26-10-2010, 11:52 AM

I was planned, my brother wasnt. But I am sure there we're no thoughts about abortion.
And if there were such thoughts, they would never tell that to us.

Petit Prince · 26-10-2010, 03:12 PM

I'm pretty sure my mum wanted to have children. Not sure about my dad. It isn't something you normally discuss with your kids.

Empily · 26-10-2010, 09:59 PM

I'm not sure... I've always been told that I was planned.
However I have my doubts due to the massive age gap between me and my sisters

Megalomania · 26-10-2010, 10:32 PM

I was planned.

a_face_of_light · 26-10-2010, 10:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ViVA Child;4506656
knowing that you did nothing wrong makes it worse

at least when your a kid and you blame yourself you think ... if your just good enough... it will get better

when you know its the parent
when you become more angry than afraid
it builds in you and your sort of boxed into it and its horrible ...its got to be one of the worst feelings ever

Typically any sort of abuse is a thankless thing to overcome

either someone will expect you to "let it go" and not talk about it cuz it was in your childhood or whatever
or.... if it is appauling enough....

they just dont believe you at all, because its easier then believeing certain things can accutually go on as they do, and that said person is so close to it as to be told it from someone who experianced it.

And dont even get me started on the grey area between "discapline" and "abuse"

the whole thing just sucks.

I can relate pretty well to what you're saying actually, like I said earlier in the thread my mother never wanted me and never showed me much affection at all and would physically discapline me from a young age for virtually no reason, if something similar or I hope not worse happened to you then

ViVA Child · 26-10-2010, 11:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil_miss_stratocaster;4507441
if something similar or I hope not worse happened to you then

....................................

....all I will say is....

I have loved coldplay for 10 years ......for a very good reason.....

My dream in life is for them to one day know how much they've helped.

I think it would definitely let them know that what their doing is good and important and appreciated and that theyre making a difference on a personal level.

and ...your virtual hugs are

26-10-2010, 01:24 AM	#62
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,937 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 40 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by ViVA Child;4506545 If you guys get this upset over verbal abuse I cant imagine how you would take news of it to its fullest extent. Where the hell were people like this when I was growing up? I think it's just the thought that your parents could be so disrespectful/say hateful things is what gets me angry w/ this thread. I can only imagine the kinds of things that may have been said __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

26-10-2010, 01:54 AM	#63
ViVA Child Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,011 My Mood: Location: In the Shadow of Your Heart. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by the_gloaming09;4506575 I think it's just the thought that your parents could be so disrespectful/say hateful things is what gets me angry w/ this thread. I can only imagine the kinds of things that may have been said wow.... and this is just over verbal stuff its weird to see you and Kels and others on here ...taking such... i dk.... concern Especially since all while growing up... it was always ... well people cared way... WAY less about things much worse than this.... You shouldve seen what it was like at my schools absolute scandal someone couldve sued their asses of for the shit that went down

26-10-2010, 02:03 AM	#64
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,937 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 40 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts	It was more than just verbal abuse?... that's fucked up. I think we have concern because I think we believe that parents should love their children to the fullest. I think she (kels) has a lot of concern for the topic because she is a new mother, and I'm sure could never picture herself acting to her child as people on this thread have described themselves treated. Of course I can't speak for her, but I'd imagine that's why. I think why it angers me so much is because it's unfair to you to have to go through such abuse, when in fact there was nothing that you did wrong. I'm sure that most people would agree that regardless of the situation it isn't right to treat your children like that especially at such an important developmental age. __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

26-10-2010, 02:35 AM	#65
ViVA Child Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,011 My Mood: Location: In the Shadow of Your Heart. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by the_gloaming09;4506628 I think why it angers me so much is because it's unfair to you to have to go through such abuse, when in fact there was nothing that you did wrong. . knowing that you did nothing wrong makes it worse at least when your a kid and you blame yourself you think ... if your just good enough... it will get better when you know its the parent when you become more angry than afraid it builds in you and your sort of boxed into it and its horrible ...its got to be one of the worst feelings ever Typically any sort of abuse is a thankless thing to overcome either someone will expect you to "let it go" and not talk about it cuz it was in your childhood or whatever or.... if it is appauling enough.... they just dont believe you at all, because its easier then believeing certain things can accutually go on as they do, and that said person is so close to it as to be told it from someone who experianced it. And dont even get me started on the grey area between "discapline" and "abuse" the whole thing just sucks.

26-10-2010, 02:56 AM	#66
Arwen Evenstar Elven Princess Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,603 My Mood: Location: Middle Earth Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by ViVA Child;4506611 wow.... and this is just over verbal stuff its weird to see you and Kels and others on here ...taking such... i dk.... concern Especially since all while growing up... it was always ... well people cared way... WAY less about things much worse than this.... You shouldve seen what it was like at my schools absolute scandal someone couldve sued their asses of for the shit that went down my parents swear at me all the time, I guess that's why I am so concerned about this, I don't want anyone else feeling what I am feeling.

26-10-2010, 12:57 AM	#61
ViVA Child Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,011 My Mood: Location: In the Shadow of Your Heart. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	If you guys get this upset over verbal abuse I cant imagine how you would take news of it to its fullest extent. Where the hell were people like this when I was growing up?

26-10-2010, 05:38 AM	#67
xxKels Account disabled Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,113 Location: On the mountain with Nick and my boys <3 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok , i post some measly little comment AGAIN and its like the third thread in days where my post gets juggled over back and forth , i quit !! But- ,Viva- yes I may be sensitive right now because of having Liam, but not really. verbal abuse is JUST as damaging as any other- I was close to it and still see the daily effects it reeks upon loved ones. The abuse ended ages ago, but the torment it caused still leaves one i love hurting, and trying to kill them self even now from it all. Bruises and broken bones are the end result of many years of verbal abuse. It does not get better. Knowing this- hearing of any of the treatment like I hear about in this thread, just scares the piss out of me- knowing what is down the road. So OF COURSE I BLOODY GET WOUND UP WHEN I HEAR OF VERBAL "STUFF". But, I'll pray for you both and all- and if you need an ear to listen/pm me. If you need help, I'm your advocate. Anytime. Good luck and God be with you. __________________

26-10-2010, 05:59 AM	#68
ViVA Child Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,011 My Mood: Location: In the Shadow of Your Heart. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by xxKels;4506715 Ok , i post some measly little comment AGAIN and its like the third thread in days where my post gets juggled over back and forth , i quit !! But- ,Viva- yes I may be sensitive right now because of having Liam, but not really. verbal abuse is JUST as damaging as any other- I was close to it and still see the daily effects it reeks upon loved ones. The abuse ended ages ago, but the torment it caused still leaves one i love hurting, and trying to kill them self even now from it all. Bruises and broken bones are the end result of many years of verbal abuse. It does not get better. Knowing this- hearing of any of the treatment like I hear about in this thread, just scares the piss out of me- knowing what is down the road. So OF COURSE I BLOODY GET WOUND UP WHEN I HEAR OF VERBAL "STUFF". But, I'll pray for you both and all- and if you need an ear to listen/pm me. If you need help, I'm your advocate. Anytime. Good luck and God be with you. .....are you referring to ME judging your post? I dont want you to think I was being critical of your concern or anything, I think its a good thing, its how people SHOULD react imo... its how I at first thought people would react to something like that .... sadly that is most often not the case.... the fact that I found it unusuall really says a lot about our society ... or maybe just everyone surrounding me as I grew up doesnt it? I was just trying to say its new to me to see people caring like that. ps. "I'll pray for you both" <-- who exactly are you referring to? Hotdensestate right...no..yes... idk ?

26-10-2010, 06:50 AM	#69
xxKels Account disabled Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,113 Location: On the mountain with Nick and my boys <3 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	no- im not saying anyone was judging ! Not at all. ! It IS how people should react- any thing less to me makes them just as guilty as an abuser ! And yes- I was referring to both you and Hotdensestate. And anyone else here who is hurting from abuse ! But, my offer stands. __________________

26-10-2010, 11:52 AM	#70
muzika I love air Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 7,528 Location: Not in Kansas anymore Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 83 Times in 73 Posts	I was planned, my brother wasnt. But I am sure there we're no thoughts about abortion. And if there were such thoughts, they would never tell that to us. __________________ May the penguin of happines take up home in your fridge tehlilballofjoynhappiness ♥

26-10-2010, 03:12 PM	#71
Petit Prince Coldplayer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,896 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	I'm pretty sure my mum wanted to have children. Not sure about my dad. It isn't something you normally discuss with your kids. __________________

26-10-2010, 09:59 PM	#72
Empily RΣ√öLûτìσÑ Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 38,428 My Mood: Location: Somewhere only we know >:D Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 67 Thanked 101 Times in 57 Posts	I'm not sure... I've always been told that I was planned. However I have my doubts due to the massive age gap between me and my sisters

26-10-2010, 10:32 PM	#73
Megalomania Reichenbach Hero Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 51,745 My Mood: Location: 221b Baker Street Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 26 Thanked 31 Times in 23 Posts	I was planned. __________________ Do you know the big problem with a disguise, Mr. Holmes? However hard you try, it's always a self-portrait. You think I'm a vicar with a bleeding face? No, I think you're damaged, delusional and believe in a higher power. In your case it's yourself. ♥tumblr ♥twitter

26-10-2010, 10:38 PM	#74
a_face_of_light Coldplayer Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,869 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Quote: Originally Posted by ViVA Child;4506656 knowing that you did nothing wrong makes it worse at least when your a kid and you blame yourself you think ... if your just good enough... it will get better when you know its the parent when you become more angry than afraid it builds in you and your sort of boxed into it and its horrible ...its got to be one of the worst feelings ever Typically any sort of abuse is a thankless thing to overcome either someone will expect you to "let it go" and not talk about it cuz it was in your childhood or whatever or.... if it is appauling enough.... they just dont believe you at all, because its easier then believeing certain things can accutually go on as they do, and that said person is so close to it as to be told it from someone who experianced it. And dont even get me started on the grey area between "discapline" and "abuse" the whole thing just sucks. I can relate pretty well to what you're saying actually, like I said earlier in the thread my mother never wanted me and never showed me much affection at all and would physically discapline me from a young age for virtually no reason, if something similar or I hope not worse happened to you then

26-10-2010, 11:58 PM	#75
ViVA Child Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,011 My Mood: Location: In the Shadow of Your Heart. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Lil_miss_stratocaster;4507441 if something similar or I hope not worse happened to you then .................................... ....all I will say is.... I have loved coldplay for 10 years ......for a very good reason..... My dream in life is for them to one day know how much they've helped. I think it would definitely let them know that what their doing is good and important and appreciated and that theyre making a difference on a personal level. and ...your virtual hugs are

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