What labels should do....

MrMagpie · 12-08-2010, 04:35 AM

I think it would be well worth a label's money to pay people to go onto message forums and promote bands.
For example I know there are a handful of members on here who are fairly influential as far as recommending bands and people listening to them and liking them.
If you did that on numerous message boards I'm sure you could increase album sales and ticket sales as well.
Thoughts?
Would that be ethical?

the_gloaming09 · 12-08-2010, 04:39 AM

I think it'd be a great idea.

I as well as many others have introduced bands to the forum and people have gotten into bands because of it, which ultimately would lead to more album/ticket sales. If people were paid to do this it'd both benefit the artists/labels and also the fans too (that want to make some money).

I just wonder if they did this how would they be able to monitor.

MrMagpie · 12-08-2010, 04:57 AM

Yeah not sure. You could use links and see how many times people click them.
But its like if you put an ad in a music magazine, hard to tell what people have purchased an album/ticket just because of that ad.

ImLovingGuyBerryman · 12-08-2010, 05:12 AM

^You could have specific links that are posted and could purchase albums/tickets via that link or just the number of times that link is clicked.

Italian Plastic · 12-08-2010, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Briggins;4376577
I think it would be well worth a label's money to pay people to go onto message forums and promote bands.
For example I know there are a handful of members on here who are fairly influential as far as recommending bands and people listening to them and liking them.
If you did that on numerous message boards I'm sure you could increase album sales and ticket sales as well.
Thoughts?
Would that be ethical?

I kind of like this idea. Similar to street teams. You know, "if you give people these flyers I'll give you free tickets to this show" or whatever.

I practically already do this on here for NZ bands.

Darlene_Ihnfsa · 12-08-2010, 05:09 PM

it'll be a good idea.
but the fact that a person/user is influential in a board it doesn't mean it'll work on another one.

i mean, for instance you like muse, you think you'll convince a jazz board to like them?
i doubt it.

MrMagpie · 12-08-2010, 05:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darlene_Ihnfsa;4377090
it'll be a good idea.
but the fact that a person/user is influential in a board it doesn't mean it'll work on another one.

i mean, for instance you like muse, you think you'll convince a jazz board to like them?
i doubt it.

It would have to be very strategic.

Darlene_Ihnfsa · 12-08-2010, 05:20 PM

then it'll probably work.
but if the plan is just to post on a board to promote a band, like with direct links, may some strict board will find that user a spammer and so band their account or unable the link.

MrMagpie · 12-08-2010, 05:29 PM

Yeah, I think it would be smarter to "mine" out influential people on forums and hire them.
For example if somebody were to creep on Coldplaying for a week they could easily figure out who are the influential members music wise, contact them, offer them free albums etc. in exchange for making a thread about band X.

the_gloaming09 · 12-08-2010, 05:54 PM

I think that it should be done.

MrMagpie · 12-08-2010, 06:00 PM

I guess essentially I am doing that somewhat with my blog in terms of having bands and labels send me albums and me reviewing them.

the_gloaming09 · 12-08-2010, 06:05 PM

^awesome!

more labels/artists should do that!

Black Rose · 12-08-2010, 09:44 PM

The problem with record labels sending people free stuff to review is that the reviewers generally will give the albums overly positive reviews to keep the free stuff rolling, say something bad and the label might just break you away.

Thus the truly independent blogs and the most trusted reviewers receive no such freebies from record labels to avoid bias towards said record label/band

MrMagpie · 12-08-2010, 09:58 PM

I tend to just review stuff I like as a rule of thumb. And criticize when needed.

an angel · 12-08-2010, 10:04 PM

It sounds like they would be spambots though.

12-08-2010, 04:35 AM	#1
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	What labels should do.... I think it would be well worth a label's money to pay people to go onto message forums and promote bands. For example I know there are a handful of members on here who are fairly influential as far as recommending bands and people listening to them and liking them. If you did that on numerous message boards I'm sure you could increase album sales and ticket sales as well. Thoughts? Would that be ethical?

12-08-2010, 04:39 AM	#2
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,934 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 38 Thanked 37 Times in 25 Posts	I think it'd be a great idea. I as well as many others have introduced bands to the forum and people have gotten into bands because of it, which ultimately would lead to more album/ticket sales. If people were paid to do this it'd both benefit the artists/labels and also the fans too (that want to make some money). I just wonder if they did this how would they be able to monitor. __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

12-08-2010, 05:12 AM	#4
ImLovingGuyBerryman poopity poop Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 14,488 Location: Austin, the Live Music Capital of the World Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	^You could have specific links that are posted and could purchase albums/tickets via that link or just the number of times that link is clicked. __________________ Ask me a fucking question or something. <3 Alexa :whip;

12-08-2010, 05:46 AM	#5
Italian Plastic 'til infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 11,154 Country: Chat posts: 2 Thanks given: 359 Thanked 207 Times in 112 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Briggins;4376577 I think it would be well worth a label's money to pay people to go onto message forums and promote bands. For example I know there are a handful of members on here who are fairly influential as far as recommending bands and people listening to them and liking them. If you did that on numerous message boards I'm sure you could increase album sales and ticket sales as well. Thoughts? Would that be ethical? I kind of like this idea. Similar to street teams. You know, "if you give people these flyers I'll give you free tickets to this show" or whatever. I practically already do this on here for NZ bands. __________________ .

12-08-2010, 05:09 PM	#6
Darlene_Ihnfsa Rising Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 50,537 My Mood: Location: Bavaria-Bohemia-Silesia Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	it'll be a good idea. but the fact that a person/user is influential in a board it doesn't mean it'll work on another one. i mean, for instance you like muse, you think you'll convince a jazz board to like them? i doubt it. __________________ no rompas el silencio si no es para mejorarlo. nadie me dirá que jamás alcanzaré la cima que yo quiero ascender W W Cervantes D? life is for living, care to live it fully. be back in 2023. (20th anniversary).

12-08-2010, 04:57 AM	#3
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Yeah not sure. You could use links and see how many times people click them. But its like if you put an ad in a music magazine, hard to tell what people have purchased an album/ticket just because of that ad.

12-08-2010, 05:17 PM	#7
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Darlene_Ihnfsa;4377090 it'll be a good idea. but the fact that a person/user is influential in a board it doesn't mean it'll work on another one. i mean, for instance you like muse, you think you'll convince a jazz board to like them? i doubt it. It would have to be very strategic.

12-08-2010, 05:20 PM	#8
Darlene_Ihnfsa Rising Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 50,537 My Mood: Location: Bavaria-Bohemia-Silesia Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	then it'll probably work. but if the plan is just to post on a board to promote a band, like with direct links, may some strict board will find that user a spammer and so band their account or unable the link. __________________ no rompas el silencio si no es para mejorarlo. nadie me dirá que jamás alcanzaré la cima que yo quiero ascender W W Cervantes D? life is for living, care to live it fully. be back in 2023. (20th anniversary).

12-08-2010, 05:29 PM	#9
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Yeah, I think it would be smarter to "mine" out influential people on forums and hire them. For example if somebody were to creep on Coldplaying for a week they could easily figure out who are the influential members music wise, contact them, offer them free albums etc. in exchange for making a thread about band X.

12-08-2010, 05:54 PM	#10
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,934 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 38 Thanked 37 Times in 25 Posts	I think that it should be done. __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

12-08-2010, 06:00 PM	#11
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I guess essentially I am doing that somewhat with my blog in terms of having bands and labels send me albums and me reviewing them.

12-08-2010, 06:05 PM	#12
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,934 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 38 Thanked 37 Times in 25 Posts	^awesome! more labels/artists should do that! __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

12-08-2010, 09:44 PM	#13
Black Rose Bear with me Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 47,525 My Mood: Location: A strangeland under the iron sea where hopes & fears can make the night train be in perfect symmetry Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 105 Times in 83 Posts	The problem with record labels sending people free stuff to review is that the reviewers generally will give the albums overly positive reviews to keep the free stuff rolling, say something bad and the label might just break you away. Thus the truly independent blogs and the most trusted reviewers receive no such freebies from record labels to avoid bias towards said record label/band __________________ You could take a picture of something you see In the future where will I be? You could climb a ladder up to the sun Or write a song nobody had sung Or do something that's never been done

12-08-2010, 09:58 PM	#14
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I tend to just review stuff I like as a rule of thumb. And criticize when needed.

12-08-2010, 10:04 PM	#15
an angel still broken Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49,552 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 20 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts	It sounds like they would be spambots though. __________________ ♫♪ Serve me the sky with a big slice of lemon.

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