ok i saw matrix anyone want to tell me how...

mycdplayerisbroke · 09-11-2003, 05:52 AM

ok i saw matrix anyone want to tell me how it ended?
wtf
i have no idea just went on for the last half hour
trinity dies thats gay
neo dies thats gay
ghost didnt fight anyone
this was prolly the worst out of the triology i think...
but what the heck:
who is this little girl?
how come agent smith at the end turns into the oracle?
how did neo get to be the one in both worlds?
what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks?
ahhh so many questions!!!

weedy_gonzalez · 09-11-2003, 03:36 PM

that`s becuz this movie is very difficult, complex and makes you think unlike other action sci-fi films.

mycdplayerisbroke · 09-11-2003, 07:08 PM

and the black cat at the end of the movie
i know the cat represents a change in the matrix
but wouldnt all those people in the pink eggs still be in the matrix?
in order to have full peace they would have to make they're own town and what not in the real world wouldnt they?
if anyone wants to explain the whole last half hour of the movie that would be fantastic...

the_madcap · 10-11-2003, 02:25 AM

Q: what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks?

A: She says that she looks different because it was a consequence of helping the humans in thier fight against the machines. If she would have led them astray, she wouldve(theoretically) stayed the same.

Ghaladan · 10-11-2003, 02:33 AM

Yeah I know what you all mean by the ending of the movie.. I pretty much was able to follow the movie up until the ending. The ending had me scratching my head though.. (Smith turning into Oracle, light coming out of Neo's mouth, etc...)

the_madcap · 10-11-2003, 10:04 PM

Smith turning into the oracle: Since Smith did 'take over the oracle' it is reasonable to assume since the oracle is a program and not a human, that she would return to normal once Smith is defeated. all the humans that were took over by smith would all die (I believe) since thier minds were taken over by smith. Thats just a thoery of mine.

Light coming out of Neo's mouth: That was the machines way of killing smith. the only way they could do that is if they had power over a human that is attached to the matrix(Neo), and is under thier control, I like to think of it as the machines "short circuiting" Neo's mind once it had been lost to Smith and it setting off a chain reaction that wiped out all the Smiths...Whew!
Again, just another theory of mine.

mycdplayerisbroke · 10-11-2003, 10:14 PM

at the end the black cat fixed up the messed up city so it looked perfect again...
what the heck

el_scorcho · 11-11-2003, 01:21 AM

I must have missed that part.

mycdplayerisbroke · 11-11-2003, 01:25 AM

its like when the little girl is laying down on the side walk 5 minutes before the movie is over..
a black cat walks next to her and 'fixes' i guess you could say, everything around it
i know the cat represents a change in the matrix but what did it change?

The Advocate · 12-11-2003, 07:36 AM

I pretty much understand so much from the Matrix from having a lot of discussios with other Matrix fans and so forth.

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Quote:

who is this little girl?
how come agent smith at the end turns into the oracle?
how did neo get to be the one in both worlds?
what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks?
ahhh so many questions!!!

So to answer the questions you asked...

Who is this little girl?

The little girl named Sati is the "love-child" of two other programs in the Matrix, but she has no purpose so she must be deleted. Her father struck a deal with the Merovingian so that she hide in the Matrix and live out her "life" so to speak. Sati proves that Machines can love just like humans. She ends up making significant changes to the Matrix. For example, if you didn't notice, throughout all of the trilogy the Matrix's main colors are black, white, and green. This in a way keeps the humans who are still plugged in under control by not inspiring them to think. Sort of like the way slaves were prevented from learning to read and write as they would get ideas and would be able to think for themselves. Sati changes many things about the matrix by adding a sun, a touch of blue sky, then it seems the Oracle is sitting in some kind of park with a lake.

how come agent smith at the end turns into the oracle?

Like Neo said in Reloaded, Smith found a way to copy himself and because Smith had so much power in the Matrix he turned everyone in the Matrix into a copy of himself. They don't show Smith turning Sati and Seraph into Smiths, but they do show Smith turning the Oracle into one. So basically, at the end, Neo allows Smith to copy him so that way the Machines in the real world kill Neo resulting in the demise of Smith since Smith has turned Neo into a Smith. Once Smith is destroyed at the end, everyone in the Matrix becomes themself again which is why we see the Oracle in the Crater and Sati lying on the cement.

how did neo get to be the one in both worlds?

Ok, it is believed that after Neo went to see The Source/The Architect in Reloaded, he changed somehow. Like, some of the Architects code was imprinted into Neo sort of the way Neo's code was imprinted into Smith. The catch? Neo could only control other MACHINES in the real world. Ex? Neo can see other Machines and Sentinels after being blinded, but cannot see Trinity when she dies and can't drive the Logos. So really he didn't really come into his full powers of being the one because he could only connect to other Machine worlds while was basically invincible in the Matrix.

what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks?

In Reloaded, the Merovingian says something like, "...and tell the Oracle her time is almost up." In other words, she is going to be punished for helping out people in the Matrix, so she had to find a new shell. The Oracle is a program just like Smith, Merovingian, the agents and Seraph. So basically while part of her was destroyed (her look), other parts were still there (Her love for candy, baking, etc).

I know this is long, but I hope I answered you questions. If you have any other questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

weedy_gonzalez · 12-11-2003, 08:55 AM

wow i luff you

badali · 12-11-2003, 12:11 PM

Wow... so do I... that's unbelievable ... whilst I knew some of that, I found it really difficult to try and put in to words...

benni · 12-11-2003, 09:02 PM

wasn't the cat a symbol for "errors" in the matrix in the first part? (deja-vu)

i think now the cat shows that the matrix doesn't exist anymore...

mycdplayerisbroke · 12-11-2003, 10:05 PM

thanks man that rocked!
i think the cat means that there was a change in the matrix
in the very first movie, neo notices a black cat and doesnt think anything of it, but one of the other people says its a change (the windows turn into brick instead of glass so they cant escape the agents)
but in the end they said there would be peace right?
wouldnt that mean the slaves (or people in the pink eggs) have to be set free?
like live in the real world and not the matrix?
or was the matrix just turned into the real world and they started where they left off? (left off meaning in the animatrix it shows how the machines took over)

Sally_ · 13-11-2003, 12:13 AM

so confusing...

09-11-2003, 05:52 AM	#1
mycdplayerisbroke Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,444 Location: the great southwest Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok i saw matrix anyone want to tell me how... ok i saw matrix anyone want to tell me how it ended? wtf i have no idea just went on for the last half hour trinity dies thats gay neo dies thats gay ghost didnt fight anyone this was prolly the worst out of the triology i think... but what the heck: who is this little girl? how come agent smith at the end turns into the oracle? how did neo get to be the one in both worlds? what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks? ahhh so many questions!!! __________________ at what age do you tell a highway its adopted?

09-11-2003, 03:36 PM	#2
weedy_gonzalez divalicious diva Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,609 Location: hackney, london Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	that`s becuz this movie is very difficult, complex and makes you think unlike other action sci-fi films. __________________ `I have to pee but when I come back I`d really like to continue talking about this conversation`

09-11-2003, 07:08 PM	#3
mycdplayerisbroke Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,444 Location: the great southwest Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	and the black cat at the end of the movie i know the cat represents a change in the matrix but wouldnt all those people in the pink eggs still be in the matrix? in order to have full peace they would have to make they're own town and what not in the real world wouldnt they? if anyone wants to explain the whole last half hour of the movie that would be fantastic... __________________ at what age do you tell a highway its adopted?

10-11-2003, 02:33 AM	#5
Ghaladan Coldplayer Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 696 Location: NoVa ScOtIa Canada Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah I know what you all mean by the ending of the movie.. I pretty much was able to follow the movie up until the ending. The ending had me scratching my head though.. (Smith turning into Oracle, light coming out of Neo's mouth, etc...) __________________ I LOVE JESS (el_scorcho) No, I\'m NOT a nerd. My computer: AMD Athlon XP 2700+ CPU (2167 MHz) 1.5 GB PC2700 DDR333 RAM ATI Radeon 9700 Pro Graphics Adapter 80 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive Realtek AC\'97 6 Channel Audio Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2

10-11-2003, 10:14 PM	#7
mycdplayerisbroke Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,444 Location: the great southwest Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	at the end the black cat fixed up the messed up city so it looked perfect again... what the heck __________________ at what age do you tell a highway its adopted?

10-11-2003, 02:25 AM	#4
the_madcap Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Q: what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks? A: She says that she looks different because it was a consequence of helping the humans in thier fight against the machines. If she would have led them astray, she wouldve(theoretically) stayed the same.

10-11-2003, 10:04 PM	#6
the_madcap Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Smith turning into the oracle: Since Smith did 'take over the oracle' it is reasonable to assume since the oracle is a program and not a human, that she would return to normal once Smith is defeated. all the humans that were took over by smith would all die (I believe) since thier minds were taken over by smith. Thats just a thoery of mine. Light coming out of Neo's mouth: That was the machines way of killing smith. the only way they could do that is if they had power over a human that is attached to the matrix(Neo), and is under thier control, I like to think of it as the machines "short circuiting" Neo's mind once it had been lost to Smith and it setting off a chain reaction that wiped out all the Smiths...Whew! Again, just another theory of mine.

11-11-2003, 01:21 AM	#8
el_scorcho Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 14,718 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I must have missed that part. __________________ Where do you live Love is a place Where are you from She says, ask yourself ask anyone What's holding up her face Nothing but blue skies Passageways the mind's eye contemplates ::: Jessica :::

11-11-2003, 01:25 AM	#9
mycdplayerisbroke Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,444 Location: the great southwest Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	its like when the little girl is laying down on the side walk 5 minutes before the movie is over.. a black cat walks next to her and 'fixes' i guess you could say, everything around it i know the cat represents a change in the matrix but what did it change? __________________ at what age do you tell a highway its adopted?

12-11-2003, 07:36 AM	#10
The Advocate Coldplayer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Florida Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I pretty much understand so much from the Matrix from having a lot of discussios with other Matrix fans and so forth. : Quote: who is this little girl? how come agent smith at the end turns into the oracle? how did neo get to be the one in both worlds? what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks? ahhh so many questions!!! So to answer the questions you asked... Who is this little girl? The little girl named Sati is the "love-child" of two other programs in the Matrix, but she has no purpose so she must be deleted. Her father struck a deal with the Merovingian so that she hide in the Matrix and live out her "life" so to speak. Sati proves that Machines can love just like humans. She ends up making significant changes to the Matrix. For example, if you didn't notice, throughout all of the trilogy the Matrix's main colors are black, white, and green. This in a way keeps the humans who are still plugged in under control by not inspiring them to think. Sort of like the way slaves were prevented from learning to read and write as they would get ideas and would be able to think for themselves. Sati changes many things about the matrix by adding a sun, a touch of blue sky, then it seems the Oracle is sitting in some kind of park with a lake. how come agent smith at the end turns into the oracle? Like Neo said in Reloaded, Smith found a way to copy himself and because Smith had so much power in the Matrix he turned everyone in the Matrix into a copy of himself. They don't show Smith turning Sati and Seraph into Smiths, but they do show Smith turning the Oracle into one. So basically, at the end, Neo allows Smith to copy him so that way the Machines in the real world kill Neo resulting in the demise of Smith since Smith has turned Neo into a Smith. Once Smith is destroyed at the end, everyone in the Matrix becomes themself again which is why we see the Oracle in the Crater and Sati lying on the cement. how did neo get to be the one in both worlds? Ok, it is believed that after Neo went to see The Source/The Architect in Reloaded, he changed somehow. Like, some of the Architects code was imprinted into Neo sort of the way Neo's code was imprinted into Smith. The catch? Neo could only control other MACHINES in the real world. Ex? Neo can see other Machines and Sentinels after being blinded, but cannot see Trinity when she dies and can't drive the Logos. So really he didn't really come into his full powers of being the one because he could only connect to other Machine worlds while was basically invincible in the Matrix. what was the explanation they gave for the oracle changing her looks? In Reloaded, the Merovingian says something like, "...and tell the Oracle her time is almost up." In other words, she is going to be punished for helping out people in the Matrix, so she had to find a new shell. The Oracle is a program just like Smith, Merovingian, the agents and Seraph. So basically while part of her was destroyed (her look), other parts were still there (Her love for candy, baking, etc). I know this is long, but I hope I answered you questions. If you have any other questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

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12-11-2003, 12:11 PM	#12
badali Coldplayer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 661 Location: London baby ... yeah! Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow... so do I... that's unbelievable ... whilst I knew some of that, I found it really difficult to try and put in to words... __________________ I\'m the girl your mummy said not to play with

12-11-2003, 09:02 PM	#13
benni Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 532 Location: ...in a beautiful world... Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	wasn't the cat a symbol for "errors" in the matrix in the first part? (deja-vu) i think now the cat shows that the matrix doesn't exist anymore... __________________ I am safe when I am with you I feel warm if you want me to I am cured when I\'m by your side I\'m all right www.bb-covers.at.tt - COLDPLAY COVER ARTWORK

12-11-2003, 10:05 PM	#14
mycdplayerisbroke Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,444 Location: the great southwest Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks man that rocked! i think the cat means that there was a change in the matrix in the very first movie, neo notices a black cat and doesnt think anything of it, but one of the other people says its a change (the windows turn into brick instead of glass so they cant escape the agents) but in the end they said there would be peace right? wouldnt that mean the slaves (or people in the pink eggs) have to be set free? like live in the real world and not the matrix? or was the matrix just turned into the real world and they started where they left off? (left off meaning in the animatrix it shows how the machines took over) __________________ at what age do you tell a highway its adopted?

13-11-2003, 12:13 AM	#15
Sally_ Coldplayer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,338 Location: Toronto Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	so confusing...

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