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Unread 24-06-2008, 09:26 PM   #1
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Interpretation of ColdPlay's ALBUM - Viva La Vida or Death and All its Friends

Its a Current Day and very Political Statement Folks, simple and clear.

"Viva la Vida" is Spanish, It's literal meaning is "live the life". It is often used in English to say "long live" such as viva la resistance, or long live the resistance.

The Album Cover Artwork is a Famous Painting called - "LIBERTY FOR THE PEOPLE" painted by French artist Eugène Delacroix, in 1830.

The painting commemorates the July Revolution of that year.

***** As an aside ******
This year 2008, there was a Ron Paul Liberty March in Washington D.C. on 12th July "www.RevolutionMarch.com"

This is the start of a real chance for a new Revolution in the US, Ron Pauls movement is going PUBLIC, the "www.campaignforliberty.com".

Video Coverage of the March - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFpJGL0jIjI
***** As an aside ******


The Album Title says it all - COMPARE the TWO tracks mentioned in the Album Title.

"Viva La Vida" (A very upbeat song, the message is about a Rejected, and Toppled, Lying Dictator/Establishment).

or

"Death and All His Friends" (Drawn Out and Overplayed Apathetic Track of Ignorance to the current situation in the world).


All Americans are very shortly due to make a VERY IMPORTANT CHOICE; I would guess around election time, this
year (November 9th) if not, most likely before then.

The CHOICE being alluded to for the people is in summary -

1. "Viva La Vida" - Life the Life; Join the Revolution and work with all your passion to change America's corrupt political
and broadcasting systems and release the country back to the constitution, delivering only messages of Peace and Love. Very Upbeat."

OR

2. "Death and all His Friends" - We can just continue in apathy listening to the current governtment and propoganda until its too late,
la la la dont worry.....dont worry.....I dont want this.....I want to Escape.....I plan to Escape.....Complete Apathy.

The albums message is of the chance for Revolution and the consequences of not having one.


Check out WHAT the Russian President and top Military men had to say in February 2008 about Bush's current antics around the world.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...eatens123.html
Copy Here - http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...208_russia.htm



Also READ the lyrics for Violet Hill, which is narrative of ONE such potential outcome; if the Americans do not choose wisely.

VIOLET HILL MUST CONTAIN BE THE MOST MISQUOTED TRACK LYRICS EVER ON THE INTERNET

Have a listen to these very recent LIVE performances to verify the words I have used below:

Live on Jonathan Ross 13th June 2008 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qte8BBs0i_Q
or
Live in Amsterdam June 2008 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnhbH...eature=related

(If the clips get removed just search for them or any other live performance - The important words are VERY pronounced and even exaggerated).


Violet Hill - The Revolution Fails; The US Continues to be Ruled By Current Administration and the Media, such as FOX News.

(The story is about a soldier sent to fight in the Middle East by the US and returning home after WWIII).

Was a long and dark December
From the rooftops i remember
There was snow White snow

(He recalls the "Nuclear Strike from Russia" (who are currently supplying Enriched Uranium to Iran), after the US Government
goes TOO FAR in the next coming months by invading Iran).

Clearly i remember
From the windows they were watching
While we froze down below

(He is remembering being left out in the cold after the strike - Do you think FEMA will come and look after you, when the shit hits the fan, lol?)

When the future's architectured
By a carnival of idiots on show
You'd better lie low

(Rupert Murdoch, Fox News, Bill O'Reilly and all of the Governmental puppets are minipulating everyone, keep your head down and you
might be OK).

If you love me
Won't you let me know?

(Very poignant, Why dont the government and media let us know the truth?)

Was a long and dark December
When the Banks became Cathedrals
And the FOX Became God

(We have been lead to think that we should worship money and blindly BELIEVE in the media, aka FOX.)

Priests clutched onto bibles
Hollowed out to fit their rifles
And the cross was held aloft

(Clearly a commentry that the wars will be fought under the guise of religion).

B, B, B-Bury me in Armour
When i'm dead and hit the ground
My loves opposed, that unfolds

(He wants to die fighting for this new Revolutionary cause (hence the protective Armour), even thought he is now completely opposed to fighting).

If you love me
Won't you let me know?


(Very poignant, Why dont the government and media let us know the truth?)


(Guitar Solo)

(Nice guitar work ;o))

I don't want to be a soldier
who the captain of some sinking ship
would stow, far below

(He does NOT wish to fight any more wars that cannot be won, for a US Govenment, who has completely lost its way and has lost world popularity).

So if you love me
Why'd you let me go?

(He asks a straightforward question......WHY DID you let me go to war, when you knew it was a lie?).

I took my love down to violet hill
There we sat in snow
All that time she was silent still

(He is implying that if this does not stop soon; as happened in World War 2, Violet Hill in China will also face the same
fate as American Cities will).

So if you love me
Won't you let me know?

(Very poignant, Why dont the government and media let us know the truth?)

If you love me,
Won't you let me know?

(Why dont they let US know the truth?)



And Finally......compare the stark interpretation I have made, to that of the "Dancing Politicians" video posted on official Coldplay YouTube Channel.

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44990

Actual Video Link - [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WqQL5WFN20[/media]

Not any real signs of reference to Jesus, or any direct reflection on the French Revolution IMO.

Remember that songs are meant to give you a clear message, but not be blatant. This is why Coldplay have used misinformation, mispronunciation and conceptual metaphors along with historical and religious references, to get their message over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceptual_metaphor

We in Britain ECHO America - Learn that, at least.

I will leave you with these wise words from my Mother, or "Ma", as we tend to call them in Scotland.......

"If you dinnae have anything worth sayin, dinnae say anything at all".

and please "always treat others the way you wish to be treated".

PEACE AND LOVE.
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This article is wrong on most counts.

Chris said in an interview that the song viva la vida insn't a political song, it's about love,
but it's told in a different way, it's interpreted as somebody who says or does something stupid then regrets it when he loses the person he loves.

it's just told in a different way.
it makes it more interesting than the usual straight forward love song.
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It's not an "Article", those were my personal thoughts. Mearly my Interpretation.

I appreciate the fact you looked at all the information.

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very interesting interpretation of Violet Hill


I think the meaning is whatever you want it to be, so if this works for you, then cheers!
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When I started reading this, I thought 'oi..'

But in fact, your take on Violet Hill is really fascinating. Nice one, thanks a lot for sharing
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yeah it is fascinating, but just a little sad!, lol, no it's well done!
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The stuff about Violet Hill is interesting...the song does sound like it's about the Bush "administration," and the video only makes that more obvious. I don't think "If you love me, Won't you let me know?" is directed at the government or media, though; does anyone honestly think the government loves them? If that ever happens, we're probably doomed.

I can't agree with what you said about Death and All His Friends, though, because you ignored the main line, "I don't want to battle from beginning to end, I don't want a cycle of recycled revenge, etc." This pretty obviously sounds like they want pointless wars to end, and so they're refusing to fight in them.

But most of all, this just sounds like you're trying to make us think the album is encouraging revolution in the U.S. to get rid of Bush, possibly replacing him with Ron Paul or someone similar. Keep a few things in mind here:
1. Bush's term is nearly over, and McCain's not doing so well.
2. Coldplay is British.
3. Chris said he likes Obama, and he's the songwriter.

So uh...interesting interpretation, but I don't think it's what the band was trying to get across, for the most part.
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Hi Guyy,

Thank you for taking the time to read my post and comment.

I really do appreciate the fact you have read this and actually thought about what I said, then replied with your own views.

My comments back to you are,

Re. Violet Hill

"if you love me wont you let me know....

I dont want to be a soldier
who the captain of some sinking ship
would stow, far below...

If you love me WHY DID YOU LET ME GO...."

(In the full context above, it seems very clear to me that the soldier is asking why did the government let him go to war....even though he knew fine well, it is/was a very bad idea).

I would suggest that if a government shows "false love" to the people, suggesting that they can look after everyones problems by taking liberties away and "pulling the wool" over the populations eyes for selfish gains, then yes we are probabaly doomed.

Re. Death and all his Friends

With regards to Death and All his Friends. You are in fact correct. Quote - "This pretty obviously sounds like they want pointless wars to end, and so they're refusing to fight in them."

I do agree with this, but your not looking closely at the "context" of the comments I have made.

Remember, what I said was the album gives us a choice between the two tracks mentioned in the Album Title. Viva la Vida OR Death and all his friends.

I put forward the idea that the second choice was "apathy", i.e. Death and all his Friends.

For such a lengthy track there are VERY FEW lyrics broken into three parts. For me, this final track on the album puts over this drawn out message of apathy, due to inaction.

All winter, we got carried
Oh way over on the rooftops let's get married.
All summer we just hurried
so come over, just be patient, and don't worry.
So come over, just be patient, and don't worry.

So come over, just be patient, and don't worry.

And don't worry.

(People ignoring everything that is going on around them; la la la dont worry....it'll be ok)

No I don't wanna battle from beginning to end;
I don't wanna cycle of recycled revenge;
I don't wanna follow death and all his friends.

No I don't wanna battle from beginning to end;
I don't wanna cycle of recycled revenge;
I don't wanna follow death and all of his friends.

(Realisation has now kicked in that things are not OK, far from it - They now want to stop the recycling cycle of war and revenge....they WANT to...)

In the end, we lie awake and the dream of making our escape
and
In the end, we lie awake and the dream of making our escape

(But in the end, the people simply lie dreaming of escaping from situation that they have ignored - Apathy in a nutshell).

You might have also noticed that the album STARTS with "Life in Technicolor" which is the EXACT SAME music being played as in the LAST part of "Death and all his Friends", to me; re-inforcing the Apathy (a loop) and cycle of repeating history.

In direct comment to your 3 points:

1) Yes Bush's term is nearly over, yet he now has the power via recent legislation to enforce martial law in the US, should any sort of major disaster occur, as could Obama if he is elected. Do you really think Obama will bring change? - I would be happy to debate this.

2) I am British and have far less ties to America than Chris Martin. Whats your point?

3) Obama is a far better choice than Bush. Nothing wrong with Chris commenting that Obama is the best choice out of two evils (McCain).
The trouble is that Obama's policies are not that different from the current staus quo; its really just more of the same. Continue Wars, keep de-valuing the Dollar, etc. I would concede that it would certainly change America's image abroad, but in the long run nothing would really change for the better on your own soil.


Its possibly a good idea if you have a look at the reasons behind why these wars of aggression are being fought.

(Clue, its not terrorists).

1) Just before Iraq was invaded, Saddam had started selling his Oil in Euros. As soon as the US invaded, priority number one was the oil fields. As soon as they were secured, the sale of oil was immediately switched back to the Dollar.

2) The CIA has confirmed (via NIE of 2007) that Iran stopped its efforts in 2003 to create Nuclear Weapons. Why the current issue with Iran? - Well, Iran has created its own Oil Stock Exchange selling in Euros Only (Google Iranian Oil Bourse) to compete directly with New York and London. At present they are only dealing in Oil Derivitives, i.e. Petrol, etc. But the Iranian Plan is to start selling Crude Oil in the coming weeks/months. This is why the US (possibly via Isreal) will likely attack Iran.

I would be interested in your interpretation and reasons, as you see it.

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that thread you made was completely wrong.

There was numerous things wrong with the statements you made,

one of them being "Viva la vida". It's not about a dictator, it's a story about love, and somebody having to deal with the consequences of their actions after losing the thing that was their whole world, words out of chris' mouth on radio 1.
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YOU didn't even take the time to read my request, never mind the thread.

I asked you to post in the thread ABOVE. (You know where it is, you've posted before....)

Now try again....and read everything S L O W L Y.

I know you can do it.

Remember that songs are meant to give you a clear message, but not be blatant. This is why Coldplay have used misinformation, mispronunciation and conceptual metaphors along with historical and religious references, to get their message over.

PS - I would LOVE to see your interpretation of the lyrics as a love story....
PPS - Did your parents ever tell you about the tooth fairy?......were you disapointed when you found out the truth?

I bet you prefer to believe in the tooth fairy..............
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3 things.

1) If you wanted people to post in the thread you linked us to, you could have just bumped that thread. It's not my fault people stopped caring about it.

2) never try to condescend me, you ****.

3) and read this one S L O W L Y........ c h r i s - s a i d - l i v e - o n - a i r - t h a t - v l v - i s - n o t - i - r e p e a t- N O T - a b o u t - a - d i c t a t o r.

but I guess he could be wrong, I mean, he only wrote the song
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Read the Lyrics (whole album), watch your language and research.

Bad silly, boy.....

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^^Dude, it's using a surface story about a Napoleon clone as a metaphor for a failed relationship. Both interpretations work and have been endorsed by the band.
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okay then, it's about a dictator, and chris was lying about it all.

in fact I think his EXACT words were "I don't see how the song could be misinterpreted as religious or about a fallen minister or anything like that, I relate to the song being about love, about making mistakes and having to deal with them the best you can, even if you can't take them back"

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