Are We Too Hard On X&Y?

winigwl · 23-03-2008, 07:10 PM

We always bash X&Y and talk about how bad it is. Sure its a level below AROBTTH and Parachutes, but i feel we give it less credit than it deserves. Its my least favorite CP album, but its still a great album. We got some of our best CP songs from it (Swallowed, Fix you, Square one, a message etc...). I think we should be nicer to this album, because its hard to make an outstanding album following the greatest one ever created.

chuck kottke · 23-03-2008, 07:12 PM

Where is Z? If you've got X&Y, you've got to have Z!

SamH · 23-03-2008, 11:00 PM

I guess I may be a little too hard on it...I was just expecting so much. I feel like some of the songs weren't mixed very well. I have a mix of What If (a song I don't like very much on x&y) done by tom lord alge(? that's what it says in my itunes) and the piano and other instruments just really pop out and make it a much better song.

But I do love A Message and Fix You and a few others.

42! · 24-03-2008, 12:18 AM

They had a lot to live up to after AROBTTH. People were expecting sooooo much, that anything was going to be a let down. I think we all focus too much on how it wasn't a good as AROBTTH and forget the good songs on it.

Square One, Talk, and X&Y are some of a favorites.

The Mad Hatter · 24-03-2008, 03:27 AM

I like it alright, but the thing is that a lot of it just doesn't seem original or groundbreaking or something...

But it's okay.

hamo.p · 24-03-2008, 04:58 AM

X&Y is unfairly targeted. AROBTTH is great on first listen - X&Y takes a few to sink in. Songs like X&Y, Fix You, Swallowed In The Sea, even Square One - they are all fantastic. It's just as good - but very different. Don't think of it as AROBTTH 2.

Famous Old Painter · 24-03-2008, 08:33 AM

X&Y is in my top 10 fav albums of all time and AROBTTH isn't. So there. (Nothing against AROBTTH though!)

Open, Politik · 24-03-2008, 08:34 AM

I hate Fix You. Could they make a worse song. I think thats the reason i hate XY, the songs didn't have depth and seemed as though they were rushed. I think after VLVODAAHF i might turn my back on XY forever!!

Famous Old Painter · 24-03-2008, 09:55 AM

Unless VLVODAAHF is even worse of course.

Angel Eyes · 24-03-2008, 04:09 PM

I still love X&Y...
there are my favorite songs in that album and I'm hope in that the new album will be good too!
'even that I don't like the title of the album' I hope the new songs will be wonderful as usual...

Tnspieler1012 · 24-03-2008, 04:36 PM

After a band comes out with a really good album, the follow up is really difficult because the majority of fans are hoping for something that sounds just like the last, but if the band does release something that's TOO similar to the last album, the band gets criticized for lacking originality. Most of the time it's a lose-lose.
Coldplay is a band that knows that they need to evolve from album to album. and I think us fans need to be open-minded enough to know that trying to come out with two more albums in the same style as AROBTTH wouldn't work out at all.
Yes, I prefer AROBTTH to X&Y but I don't think that there was anything horribly wrong with X&Y either, it was simply different. We know from Bob Dylan and Radiohead that bands change, and we'd be complaining just as much if coldplay stayed the same. So please, no one go jumping out the window if LP4 turns out to be a Kid A of sorts.

Mig-El · 24-03-2008, 07:32 PM

Well, for me, X&Y is above Parachutes and below AROBTTH for just a bit, I'm not hard with it, I think I'm harder with Parachutes

rudy_o · 25-03-2008, 08:17 AM

I still love X&Y for sure, and they have a few good songs in it.. But, there are also two or three songs those are not good enough (for me).. For AROBTTH and Parachutes, all songs are fantastic and at least only one song sounds distracting...

Jayzo · 26-03-2008, 02:21 PM

I liked it, the thing is it wasn't going to be the same as AROBTTH or Parachutes, it was always going to be different, like the next album will be again.

KissesBirds · 27-03-2008, 05:47 AM

^Jizo, I think I saw Chris say that quote in your siggy in an interview on TV a long time ago, before I knew much about Coldplay. I'll never forget that quote. It made me like Chris straight away. I wish I could see that interview again.

23-03-2008, 07:10 PM	#1
winigwl Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9,169 My Mood: Location: new jersey Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Are We Too Hard On X&Y? We always bash X&Y and talk about how bad it is. Sure its a level below AROBTTH and Parachutes, but i feel we give it less credit than it deserves. Its my least favorite CP album, but its still a great album. We got some of our best CP songs from it (Swallowed, Fix you, Square one, a message etc...). I think we should be nicer to this album, because its hard to make an outstanding album following the greatest one ever created.

24-03-2008, 03:27 AM	#5
The Mad Hatter make believe Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13,370 My Mood: Location: waging war on Christmas Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 216 Thanked 52 Times in 33 Posts	I like it alright, but the thing is that a lot of it just doesn't seem original or groundbreaking or something... But it's okay. __________________ tumblr \| deviantart i have been crucified with christ. it is no longer i who live, but christ who lives in me. and the life i now live in the flesh i live by faith in the son of god, who loved me and gave himself for me.

24-03-2008, 04:58 AM	#6
hamo.p when i ruled the world Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 37 Location: Melbourne Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	X&Y is unfairly targeted. AROBTTH is great on first listen - X&Y takes a few to sink in. Songs like X&Y, Fix You, Swallowed In The Sea, even Square One - they are all fantastic. It's just as good - but very different. Don't think of it as AROBTTH 2. __________________ you belong with me, not swallowed in the sea.

24-03-2008, 08:34 AM	#8
Open, Politik Babe Im Gonna Leave You Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,182 My Mood: Location: Where the Lemon lives Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I hate Fix You. Could they make a worse song. I think thats the reason i hate XY, the songs didn't have depth and seemed as though they were rushed. I think after VLVODAAHF i might turn my back on XY forever!! __________________ 19/09/09 Best day ever!!!!!

24-03-2008, 04:36 PM	#11
Tnspieler1012 Come On, Let's Go Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 12,254 My Mood: Location: Prague, Czech Republic Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 61 Thanked 133 Times in 82 Posts	After a band comes out with a really good album, the follow up is really difficult because the majority of fans are hoping for something that sounds just like the last, but if the band does release something that's TOO similar to the last album, the band gets criticized for lacking originality. Most of the time it's a lose-lose. Coldplay is a band that knows that they need to evolve from album to album. and I think us fans need to be open-minded enough to know that trying to come out with two more albums in the same style as AROBTTH wouldn't work out at all. Yes, I prefer AROBTTH to X&Y but I don't think that there was anything horribly wrong with X&Y either, it was simply different. We know from Bob Dylan and Radiohead that bands change, and we'd be complaining just as much if coldplay stayed the same. So please, no one go jumping out the window if LP4 turns out to be a Kid A of sorts. __________________ "So I wanna live in a wooden house, where making more friends would be easy, I wanna live where the sun comes out..." Quote: Originally Posted by Karencorpse;4818717 Tnspieler1012 seams like a very interesting guy who has lots of interesting things to talk about and great things to do with her. Quote: Originally Posted by eff-exx;5237716 You're like the ultimate post-rocker in this forum. Quote: Originally Posted by Til_Kingdom_Come;5509315 Ha Ha!!! I guess you suck at geography as well as Rock music!!

23-03-2008, 07:12 PM	#2
chuck kottke Gearwork for Clocks Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,425 My Mood: Location: Just north of Green Bay - near Lake Michigan's Western Shore Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Where is Z? If you've got X&Y, you've got to have Z!

23-03-2008, 11:00 PM	#3
SamH Coldplayer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 179 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I guess I may be a little too hard on it...I was just expecting so much. I feel like some of the songs weren't mixed very well. I have a mix of What If (a song I don't like very much on x&y) done by tom lord alge(? that's what it says in my itunes) and the piano and other instruments just really pop out and make it a much better song. But I do love A Message and Fix You and a few others.

24-03-2008, 12:18 AM	#4
42! Coldplayer Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 53 My Mood: Location: Your guess is as good as mine Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	They had a lot to live up to after AROBTTH. People were expecting sooooo much, that anything was going to be a let down. I think we all focus too much on how it wasn't a good as AROBTTH and forget the good songs on it. Square One, Talk, and X&Y are some of a favorites.

24-03-2008, 08:33 AM	#7
Famous Old Painter KICKS LIKE A SLEEP TWICH Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,741 My Mood: Location: Yesteryear Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	X&Y is in my top 10 fav albums of all time and AROBTTH isn't. So there. (Nothing against AROBTTH though!)

24-03-2008, 09:55 AM	#9
Famous Old Painter KICKS LIKE A SLEEP TWICH Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,741 My Mood: Location: Yesteryear Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Unless VLVODAAHF is even worse of course.

24-03-2008, 04:09 PM	#10
Angel Eyes Yes, I'm Here ♥ Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,672 My Mood: Location: ~In Coldplay Kingdom~ Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I still love X&Y... there are my favorite songs in that album and I'm hope in that the new album will be good too! 'even that I don't like the title of the album' I hope the new songs will be wonderful as usual...

24-03-2008, 07:32 PM	#12
Mig-El Coldplayer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,954 My Mood: Location: Panuco, Veracruz Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, for me, X&Y is above Parachutes and below AROBTTH for just a bit, I'm not hard with it, I think I'm harder with Parachutes __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by MrNick;2959607 My mom says I'm not allowed to visit this thread anymore. If you don't know something or just have doubts: "Ask in coldplaying and they will clear it out"

25-03-2008, 08:17 AM	#13
rudy_o Joy, it's all founded Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 34,615 Location: Wisconsin Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I still love X&Y for sure, and they have a few good songs in it.. But, there are also two or three songs those are not good enough (for me).. For AROBTTH and Parachutes, all songs are fantastic and at least only one song sounds distracting... __________________ last.fm \| tumblr Lover, the weather is changing everyday. I won't.

26-03-2008, 02:21 PM	#14
Jayzo ♥ under the Osaka ☀ Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,003 My Mood: Location: somewhere clearly, nowhere really. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I liked it, the thing is it wasn't going to be the same as AROBTTH or Parachutes, it was always going to be different, like the next album will be again. __________________ ♥ One day the sun'll come out... ♥ Chris Martin: We have the best fans in the fucking world man.

27-03-2008, 05:47 AM	#15
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