Homage or theft?

jeffh83 · 24-10-2007, 05:40 PM

How would you define the similarities between Craftwerk's "Computer Love" and Coldplay's "Talk"?

Darlene_Ihnfsa · 24-10-2007, 05:43 PM

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Craftwerk

, is with K, Kraftwerk..

busybeeburns · 24-10-2007, 05:50 PM

Check out the album sleeve small print to X&Y

mandymcnabb · 25-10-2007, 02:05 AM

Twas sampled you ****.

Tnspieler1012 · 25-10-2007, 04:41 AM

Well here's the deal. Many people would consider coldplay's use of the computer love riff a "rip-off", I disagree. The term rip-off implies that they are maliciously stealing from kraftwerk without their consent. But instead of just taking the riff (with the hope of dancing around any copyright charges) Chris wrote a polite and humble letter to kraftwerk saying "hello, my name is Chris I play in a band named "Coldplay" and we were wondering..." yadda yadda yadda. Kraftwerk gave them permission and they went on to make a pretty good song with it. The way they went about it leans much closer to "homage" then "theft". they asked nicely and they were allowed to borrow it.

nevaehdreamz · 25-10-2007, 04:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mandymcnabb;2172410
Twas sampled you ****.

LOL

Black Dog · 25-10-2007, 04:53 AM

I agree with Trispieler. Talk it awesome too!

Texasluvsjonny · 25-10-2007, 06:30 AM

Not to mention that since Kraftwerk got song credit, I'm sure they also got a big fat royality check to go with it.

cpfan50 · 25-10-2007, 08:57 AM

Exactly. I'm sure that permission came with a price tag!

miss capa · 26-10-2007, 10:22 AM

I think everything does now...

yellowtalk · 26-10-2007, 03:36 PM

ermm..."Coldplay received permission from the electronic music band Kraftwerk to use the main riff from their song "Computer Love" (German version: "Computerliebe"), from their 1981 studio LP Computer World (German version: Computerwelt), for "Talk", replacing Kraftwerk's synthesizers with guitars."

miss capa · 28-10-2007, 05:43 AM

...I remeber watching a video about them writing to Kraftwerk.

Well, Coldplay are Coldplay, they'll do as they please.

(I've said that like 5 times before on this forum)

playingcolder · 28-10-2007, 04:00 PM

I hate to break it to you o_0Emma-Beatrice0_o, but you have the same signature as me...lol.

So...should I change or you? Cauz i kinda like mine...

24-10-2007, 05:40 PM	#1
jeffh83 Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Homage or theft? How would you define the similarities between Craftwerk's "Computer Love" and Coldplay's "Talk"?

24-10-2007, 05:43 PM	#2
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Tnspieler1012 Come On, Let's Go Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 12,244 My Mood: Location: Prague, Czech Republic Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 60 Thanked 132 Times in 81 Posts	Well here's the deal. Many people would consider coldplay's use of the computer love riff a "rip-off", I disagree. The term rip-off implies that they are maliciously stealing from kraftwerk without their consent. But instead of just taking the riff (with the hope of dancing around any copyright charges) Chris wrote a polite and humble letter to kraftwerk saying "hello, my name is Chris I play in a band named "Coldplay" and we were wondering..." yadda yadda yadda. Kraftwerk gave them permission and they went on to make a pretty good song with it. The way they went about it leans much closer to "homage" then "theft". they asked nicely and they were allowed to borrow it. __________________ "So I wanna live in a wooden house, where making more friends would be easy, I wanna live where the sun comes out..." Quote: Originally Posted by Karencorpse;4818717 Tnspieler1012 seams like a very interesting guy who has lots of interesting things to talk about and great things to do with her. Quote: Originally Posted by eff-exx;5237716 You're like the ultimate post-rocker in this forum. Quote: Originally Posted by Til_Kingdom_Come;5509315 Ha Ha!!! I guess you suck at geography as well as Rock music!!

25-10-2007, 04:43 AM	#6
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Texasluvsjonny Jonny's personal fluffer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 16,806 My Mood: Location: Livin' large in the Friends and Family room! Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 5 Thanked 287 Times in 97 Posts	Not to mention that since Kraftwerk got song credit, I'm sure they also got a big fat royality check to go with it. __________________ Houston-Austin-Dallas-Cleveland-Indy-Alpine Valley-Dallas-ACL Taping-Houston-Dallas-Milwaukee-Today Show-Chicago-Chicago-DC-Philly-Orlando-Ft.Lauderdale-Houston-Dallas-Birmingham-Indy-San Antonio-Dallas-Houston-Alpine Valley-London-London-Mexico City-Mexico City-Guadalajara-Monterrey-Chicago-ACL Taping- Austin-Today Show- L.A.-Dallas-Dallas-Houston-Houston-DC-DC-East Rutherford-Chicago-Chicago-Brooklyn... Jonny

25-10-2007, 08:57 AM	#9
cpfan50 Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,009 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Exactly. I'm sure that permission came with a price tag!

26-10-2007, 10:22 AM	#10
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yellowtalk From the West Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,211 My Mood: Location: Inside Jonny's Cap Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ermm..."Coldplay received permission from the electronic music band Kraftwerk to use the main riff from their song "Computer Love" (German version: "Computerliebe"), from their 1981 studio LP Computer World (German version: Computerwelt), for "Talk", replacing Kraftwerk's synthesizers with guitars." __________________ http://i.imgur.com/WMRiY.gif

28-10-2007, 05:43 AM	#12
miss capa Oh gosh. Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,864 My Mood: Location: Australia Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	...I remeber watching a video about them writing to Kraftwerk. Well, Coldplay are Coldplay, they'll do as they please. (I've said that like 5 times before on this forum) __________________ This place is bigger than I remember twitter Pearl Jam 20 Nov 2009 Woot. Spoiler http://muse-screenager.site.voila.fr.../706196183.gif Its official my good friend Ahlem. You rock. I love you but enough is enough

28-10-2007, 04:00 PM	#13
playingcolder Is carefull where I stand Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 118 My Mood: Location: Cape Town, South Africa Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I hate to break it to you o_0Emma-Beatrice0_o, but you have the same signature as me...lol. So...should I change or you? Cauz i kinda like mine...