Geeky drum question alert

Fixed · 27-06-2007, 01:05 AM

In the original equipment list that Debs provided on Coldplay.com, Will uses the Zildjian 14" A Custom Hi-Hats, but in photos I've seen he has the K Custom instead, did he just recently switch for the X&Y sessions does anyone know, and is there much difference in sound? I'm shopping around for good quality hats and was wondering what the difference is.

PianoRocker · 27-06-2007, 02:15 AM

Well, i do not know if he switched for X&Y, but maybe it is not his own kit?

Also there is'nt much different sound i guess.
I have Zildjian Z hats and cymbals and sounds not much different.

Ofcourse there is a little bit different in quality!

Fixed · 27-06-2007, 02:33 AM

Are the Z hats good quality then I take it?

alyssa · 27-06-2007, 06:54 AM

Yeah I think he switched.

I <3 K customs, but zildjian cymbals are so unreasonably expensive. I'm more of a sabian person. My B8 crash sound better than my medium 16" crash.

Though, I'm not very happy with my B8's at all. Don't have the money for anything good. Bleh.

I'd get cymbals used btw. Saves a bit of cash.

PianoRocker · 27-06-2007, 01:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixed;2100803
Are the Z hats good quality then I take it?

The hats are in a package with Ride&hats&crash! or Hats&ride/crash.
The package wih lowest price is Ride&hats&crash for +/- 150 euro's in The Netherlands.
Zildjian planet z is it called.

Fixed · 27-06-2007, 02:45 PM

Thanks for your advice people. I found some used Zildjian A Customs on ebay for £160, I'm tempted by those. I'm also looking at the Sabian HHX Groove hats too, the ones used by Richard Hughes from Keane. I know I don't the exact same ones but I'm a geek lol.

alyssa · 27-06-2007, 03:31 PM

ew. Not planet Zs! I thought you were talking about Z customs. Planet Z's sound kinda bleh compared to A or K's.

HHX's are really top of the line.

Unless you're gonna do some major recording work, I'd go with the slightly cheaper AAX's. They sound great but they're not the hand hammered line.

And shop on the American ebay, everything should be slightly cheaper too...

And, an A custom pack, hats, or a single cymbal? O.o

Fixed · 27-06-2007, 04:46 PM

They're A Custom Hats I've found on ebay.

alyssa · 27-06-2007, 06:52 PM

Oh... isn't that kinda pricey?

That's a little more than the retail price in the US...

You could buy from a US stocker and get it for about £130 new.

Take advantage of our crappy economy!

Here are some mastersounds for only around £130.

http://www.westcoastdrums.com/zicumahi12.html

Fixed · 27-06-2007, 08:07 PM

Yeah I looked around the US and the prices are really good, it's just that the shipping bumps the price up.

guitarist946 · 27-06-2007, 08:35 PM

Something you might want to check out is Sabian's AAX X-Celerator Hi Hats. I was always a Zildjian person, but when I went to my local Guitar Center and placed some A Custom Mastersound hats next to these, the Sabian's completely blew them away. Not the cheapest, but completely worth it.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ats?sku=446747

alyssa · 27-06-2007, 08:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarist946;2101101
Something you might want to check out is Sabian's AAX X-Celerator Hi Hats. I was always a Zildjian person, but when I went to my local Guitar Center and placed some A Custom Mastersound hats next to these, the Sabian's completely blew them away. Not the cheapest, but completely worth it.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ats?sku=446747

AAX's blow A customs out of the water IMO.

I used to be a Zildjian person but after getting a really crappy crash cymbal that sounded worse than my friggin' Sabian B8's, I started to think Sabian is better.

ah yeah, shipping. www.samash.com was offering shipping for items over $99, but I'm not sure if that applies to international shipping...

coldplayfan927 · 14-10-2009, 01:56 AM

i use sabien B8's they feel a little heavy but they give good sound and are cheap compred to zildjin

princesanji · 14-10-2009, 03:04 PM

how do i find out what cymbals i have?
i got my dad's old drum set... 3 crashes, 1 ride, 1 splash and a set of hihat all that is from zildjian
of course they are used, and if there ever was a black printing, it's gone... only a stamp ( = hit into the metal) saying zildjian - genuine turkish cymbals... oh, except for the splash, it's got a huge "K" on it

Fixed · 14-10-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by princesanji;3569432
how do i find out what cymbals i have?
i got my dad's old drum set... 3 crashes, 1 ride, 1 splash and a set of hihat all that is from zildjian
of course they are used, and if there ever was a black printing, it's gone... only a stamp ( = hit into the metal) saying zildjian - genuine turkish cymbals... oh, except for the splash, it's got a huge "K" on it

Your best bet is to take some photos and post them on a few forums or send them to some music shops to see if anyone can identify them for you.

27-06-2007, 01:05 AM	#1
Fixed Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,147 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Geeky drum question alert In the original equipment list that Debs provided on Coldplay.com, Will uses the Zildjian 14" A Custom Hi-Hats, but in photos I've seen he has the K Custom instead, did he just recently switch for the X&Y sessions does anyone know, and is there much difference in sound? I'm shopping around for good quality hats and was wondering what the difference is.

27-06-2007, 02:15 AM	#2
PianoRocker a.k.a stephanbass Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,684 My Mood: Location: Antwerp Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, i do not know if he switched for X&Y, but maybe it is not his own kit? Also there is'nt much different sound i guess. I have Zildjian Z hats and cymbals and sounds not much different. Ofcourse there is a little bit different in quality! __________________ Twitter = YouTube = Facebook = Hyves = Last.fm 3 10 08 \| ~Coldplay~ \| 9 9 09 I ♥ Ellen! >> www.StephanHondeveld.com <<

27-06-2007, 06:54 AM	#4
alyssa first on last off Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,165 Location: S. California Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah I think he switched. I <3 K customs, but zildjian cymbals are so unreasonably expensive. I'm more of a sabian person. My B8 crash sound better than my medium 16" crash. Though, I'm not very happy with my B8's at all. Don't have the money for anything good. Bleh. I'd get cymbals used btw. Saves a bit of cash. __________________

27-06-2007, 01:11 PM	#5
PianoRocker a.k.a stephanbass Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,684 My Mood: Location: Antwerp Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Quote: Originally Posted by Fixed;2100803 Are the Z hats good quality then I take it? The hats are in a package with Ride&hats&crash! or Hats&ride/crash. The package wih lowest price is Ride&hats&crash for +/- 150 euro's in The Netherlands. Zildjian planet z is it called. __________________ Twitter = YouTube = Facebook = Hyves = Last.fm 3 10 08 \| ~Coldplay~ \| 9 9 09 I ♥ Ellen! >> www.StephanHondeveld.com <<

27-06-2007, 03:31 PM	#7
alyssa first on last off Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,165 Location: S. California Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ew. Not planet Zs! I thought you were talking about Z customs. Planet Z's sound kinda bleh compared to A or K's. HHX's are really top of the line. Unless you're gonna do some major recording work, I'd go with the slightly cheaper AAX's. They sound great but they're not the hand hammered line. And shop on the American ebay, everything should be slightly cheaper too... And, an A custom pack, hats, or a single cymbal? O.o __________________

27-06-2007, 02:33 AM	#3
Fixed Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,147 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Are the Z hats good quality then I take it?

27-06-2007, 02:45 PM	#6
Fixed Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,147 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks for your advice people. I found some used Zildjian A Customs on ebay for £160, I'm tempted by those. I'm also looking at the Sabian HHX Groove hats too, the ones used by Richard Hughes from Keane. I know I don't the exact same ones but I'm a geek lol.

27-06-2007, 04:46 PM	#8
Fixed Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,147 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	They're A Custom Hats I've found on ebay.

27-06-2007, 06:52 PM	#9
alyssa first on last off Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,165 Location: S. California Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh... isn't that kinda pricey? That's a little more than the retail price in the US... You could buy from a US stocker and get it for about £130 new. Take advantage of our crappy economy! Here are some mastersounds for only around £130. http://www.westcoastdrums.com/zicumahi12.html __________________

27-06-2007, 08:07 PM	#10
Fixed Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,147 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Yeah I looked around the US and the prices are really good, it's just that the shipping bumps the price up.

27-06-2007, 08:35 PM	#11
guitarist946 Coldplayer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Livonia, MI Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Something you might want to check out is Sabian's AAX X-Celerator Hi Hats. I was always a Zildjian person, but when I went to my local Guitar Center and placed some A Custom Mastersound hats next to these, the Sabian's completely blew them away. Not the cheapest, but completely worth it. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ats?sku=446747

27-06-2007, 08:53 PM	#12
alyssa first on last off Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,165 Location: S. California Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by guitarist946;2101101 Something you might want to check out is Sabian's AAX X-Celerator Hi Hats. I was always a Zildjian person, but when I went to my local Guitar Center and placed some A Custom Mastersound hats next to these, the Sabian's completely blew them away. Not the cheapest, but completely worth it. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ats?sku=446747 AAX's blow A customs out of the water IMO. I used to be a Zildjian person but after getting a really crappy crash cymbal that sounded worse than my friggin' Sabian B8's, I started to think Sabian is better. ah yeah, shipping. www.samash.com was offering shipping for items over $99, but I'm not sure if that applies to international shipping... __________________

14-10-2009, 01:56 AM	#13
coldplayfan927 coldplayfan8309 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 8 Location: ny Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i use sabien B8's they feel a little heavy but they give good sound and are cheap compred to zildjin

14-10-2009, 03:04 PM	#14
princesanji Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,346 My Mood: Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	how do i find out what cymbals i have? i got my dad's old drum set... 3 crashes, 1 ride, 1 splash and a set of hihat all that is from zildjian of course they are used, and if there ever was a black printing, it's gone... only a stamp ( = hit into the metal) saying zildjian - genuine turkish cymbals... oh, except for the splash, it's got a huge "K" on it

14-10-2009, 07:16 PM	#15
Fixed Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,147 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by princesanji;3569432 how do i find out what cymbals i have? i got my dad's old drum set... 3 crashes, 1 ride, 1 splash and a set of hihat all that is from zildjian of course they are used, and if there ever was a black printing, it's gone... only a stamp ( = hit into the metal) saying zildjian - genuine turkish cymbals... oh, except for the splash, it's got a huge "K" on it Your best bet is to take some photos and post them on a few forums or send them to some music shops to see if anyone can identify them for you.