Hey! Remember this guy!! Osama's new video...

berrywoman · 30-06-2006, 02:19 PM

ahh I remember when our sole purpose was to find this guy after 9/11... the good ol'days.. nice to know we still can't find him! Oh but wait.... he's still alive!

Bin Laden praises al-Zarqawi, defends attacks
Terrorist leader heard but not seen in paean to slain al-Qaida in Iraq chief
The Associated Press
Updated: 8:27 a.m. ET June 30, 2006
CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden defended attacks by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi against civilians in Iraq, purportedly saying in a taped Web message Friday that the slain al-Qaida in Iraq leader was acting under orders to kill anyone who backs American forces.

Bin Laden paid tribute to al-Zarqawi in a 19-minute audio message posted on an Islamic militant Web site. The message has narration by a voice resembling bin Laden’s as a video shows an old photo of him in a split-screen next to images of al-Zarqawi taken from a previous video.

In the message, bin Laden demands President Bush hand over the body of al-Zarqawi to his family and effusively praises the Jordanian-born militant, often in rhyming couplets. His voice sounded breathy and fatigued at times.

“We will continue to fight you and your allies everywhere, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and Sudan to run down your resources and kill your men until you return defeated to your nation,” he said, addressing Bush.

It was the fourth message purportedly put out this year by bin Laden. All have featured his voice in audiotapes. New video images of him have not appeared since October 2004.

No immediate confirmation
The authenticity of the video could not be immediately confirmed. It bore the logo of As-Sahab, the al-Qaida production branch that releases all its messages, and was posted on an Islamic Web forum where militants often post messages. Typically, the CIA does a technical analysis to determine whether the speaker is who the tape claims and the National Counterterrorism Center analyzes the message’s contents.

In the tape, bin Laden addressed “those who accuse Abu Musab of killing certain sectors of the Iraqi people,” referring to the campaign of suicide bombings by al-Zarqawi’s followers targeting Shiites. Al-Zarqawi was killed in a June 7 airstrike northeast of Baghdad by U.S. warplanes.

“Abu Musab had clear instructions to focus his fight on the occupiers, particularly the Americans and to leave aside anyone who remains neutral,” bin Laden said.

“But for those who refused (neutrality) and stood to fight on the side of the crusaders against the Muslims, then he should kill them whoever they are, regardless of their sect or tribe. For supporting infidels against Muslims is a major sin,” he said.

Al-Zarqawi’s strategy of attacking Shiite civilians in an attempt to spark a Shiite-Sunni civil war in Iraq raised criticism even among some fellow Islamic extremists, and was apparently a source of some tension between him and al-Qaida’s central leadership, to which he had sworn allegiance.

In July 2005, bin Laden’s deputy Ayman al-Zawahri reportedly wrote a letter to al-Zarqawi criticizing his attacks on Iraqi Shiite mosques and civilians, saying they hurt the mujahedeen’s image. The Egyptian-born al-Zawahri also asked al-Zarqawi for money, according to the U.S. military, which said it intercepted the message.

Al-Zarqawi apparently brushed off the criticism as he continued to attack Shiites.

Any tension between al-Zarqawi and al-Qaida’s command appeared to have faded this year because al-Zawahri issued three videotapes in which he effusively praised al-Zarqawi — including a tribute video last week similar to bin Laden’s Friday.

The tribute videos appear to be part of an attempt by al-Qaida’s leadership to tout their connection to al-Zarqawi, who emerged as a hero among Islamic extremists with his dramatic attacks in Iraq and even stole the spotlight from bin Laden and al-Zawahri.

Bin Laden’s mention of “instructions” to al-Zarqawi could be aimed to show the al-Qaida in Iraq leader was under his command.

‘One of our greatest knights’
“Al-Zarqawi’s story will live forever with the stories of the nobles, so don’t cry over one who is not missing,” bin Laden said. “He can teach the world a lesson on how to seize freedom ... and how to resist tyrants.”

“Even if we lost one of our greatest knights and princes, we are happy that we have found a symbol for our great Islamic nations, one that the mujahedeen will remember and praise in poetry and in stories secretly and aloud,” bin Laden said.

Bin Laden said Bush should return al-Zarqawi’s body and that Jordan’s King Abdullah II should allow the militant’s family to bury him. The Jordanian government has said it will never allow al-Zarqawi to be buried in his homeland because of a November triple suicide bombing his followers carried out in Amman hotels that killed 60 people.

“What scares you about Abu Musab after he’s dead?” bin Laden said, addressing Abdullah. “You know that his funeral, if allowed to happen, would be a huge funeral showing the extent of sympathy with the mujahedeen.”

The Associated Press contributed to this article.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13600778/

MrLick · 01-07-2006, 09:11 AM

Bin Laden isnt real....

anniep_93 · 01-07-2006, 09:15 AM

What makes you say that? He was around long before America got involved with him.

MrLick · 01-07-2006, 09:23 AM

I know. i was just being a pretentious asshole.

btw are you a brandnew fan?

anniep_93 · 01-07-2006, 09:28 AM

Nah I've been a CP fan for ages now. I'm a long time reader, relatively first time poster.

MrLick · 01-07-2006, 09:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by anniep_93
Nah I've been a CP fan for ages now. I'm a long time reader, relatively first time poster.

Im so damn stupid sometimes...sorry i saw the sic transit gloria thing on your sig and thats a song by the band brandnew.

anniep_93 · 01-07-2006, 09:40 AM

Hmm..I'm not sure. I got it from a line in the movie, Rushmore

busybeeburns · 01-07-2006, 11:24 AM

Also:

Quote:
A new recording from al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden has been posted on an Islamist website. He praised Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq killed three weeks ago, as a "lion of holy war".

The video, lasting 19 minutes, shows a still picture of Bin Laden, and moving pictures of al-Zarqawi.

Unnamed US officials said the recording was authentic. It is the fourth audio message Bin Laden has released since the start of this year.

However, no new video images of the al-Qaeda leader have appeared since October 2004.

Last week a video was broadcast purportedly showing the deputy leader of al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahri, in which he paid tribute to Zarqawi and said his death would be avenged.

In the latest recording, Bin Laden addresses US President George W Bush, warning him not to be "too happy" about Zarqawi's death, "for the banner [of al-Qaeda in Iraq] hasn't dropped but has passed from one lion of Islam to another lion".

Bin Laden says al-Qaeda will go on with operations against the US and its allies. "We will continue, God willing, to fight you and your allies everywhere," he said, "in Iraq and Afghanistan and in Somalia and Sudan until we waste all your money and kill your men."

In an apparent reference to a campaign against Iraq's Shias by Zarqawi, Bin Laden addressed "those who accuse Abu Musab of killing certain sectors of the Iraqi people".

"Abu Musab had clear instructions to focus his fight on the occupiers," he went on, "particularly the Americans and to leave aside anyone who remains neutral."

He called on President Bush to return Zarqawi's body to his family, and used rhyming couplets to eulogise the dead al-Qaeda leader.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5131818.stm

berrywoman · 02-07-2006, 12:45 AM

thank you Ian for bringing it back to topic....

MrLick · 02-07-2006, 07:22 AM

and thank you for going back off topic....

berrywoman · 02-07-2006, 03:44 PM

does anyone else remember when this guy was the sole reason and purpose for the war... what happened and why is this man so hard to find....

he has more new releases on video than Blockbuster....

GazeboflossUK · 02-07-2006, 03:55 PM

Well, infact, this wasn't even a video.....it was audio....mixed with old footage.

berrywoman · 02-07-2006, 04:04 PM

bah! same difference!! lol he probably lost his camcorder

GazeboflossUK · 02-07-2006, 04:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by berrywoman
bah! same difference!! lol he probably lost his camcorder

Yeah, but it just goes to show that by calling it a NEW video, people automatically think he is still alive and well.......that he is a threat......when infact in the AUDIO it might not even be him at all.

berrywoman · 02-07-2006, 04:43 PM

sources say that it is in fact him... but again.. it could all be propaganda...
hurrah for propaganda! lol

30-06-2006, 02:19 PM	#1
berrywoman Guy-a-licious Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,692 My Mood: Location: New York Cares Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey! Remember this guy!! Osama's new video... ahh I remember when our sole purpose was to find this guy after 9/11... the good ol'days.. nice to know we still can't find him! Oh but wait.... he's still alive! Bin Laden praises al-Zarqawi, defends attacks Terrorist leader heard but not seen in paean to slain al-Qaida in Iraq chief The Associated Press Updated: 8:27 a.m. ET June 30, 2006 CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden defended attacks by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi against civilians in Iraq, purportedly saying in a taped Web message Friday that the slain al-Qaida in Iraq leader was acting under orders to kill anyone who backs American forces. Bin Laden paid tribute to al-Zarqawi in a 19-minute audio message posted on an Islamic militant Web site. The message has narration by a voice resembling bin Laden’s as a video shows an old photo of him in a split-screen next to images of al-Zarqawi taken from a previous video. In the message, bin Laden demands President Bush hand over the body of al-Zarqawi to his family and effusively praises the Jordanian-born militant, often in rhyming couplets. His voice sounded breathy and fatigued at times. “We will continue to fight you and your allies everywhere, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and Sudan to run down your resources and kill your men until you return defeated to your nation,” he said, addressing Bush. It was the fourth message purportedly put out this year by bin Laden. All have featured his voice in audiotapes. New video images of him have not appeared since October 2004. No immediate confirmation The authenticity of the video could not be immediately confirmed. It bore the logo of As-Sahab, the al-Qaida production branch that releases all its messages, and was posted on an Islamic Web forum where militants often post messages. Typically, the CIA does a technical analysis to determine whether the speaker is who the tape claims and the National Counterterrorism Center analyzes the message’s contents. In the tape, bin Laden addressed “those who accuse Abu Musab of killing certain sectors of the Iraqi people,” referring to the campaign of suicide bombings by al-Zarqawi’s followers targeting Shiites. Al-Zarqawi was killed in a June 7 airstrike northeast of Baghdad by U.S. warplanes. “Abu Musab had clear instructions to focus his fight on the occupiers, particularly the Americans and to leave aside anyone who remains neutral,” bin Laden said. “But for those who refused (neutrality) and stood to fight on the side of the crusaders against the Muslims, then he should kill them whoever they are, regardless of their sect or tribe. For supporting infidels against Muslims is a major sin,” he said. Al-Zarqawi’s strategy of attacking Shiite civilians in an attempt to spark a Shiite-Sunni civil war in Iraq raised criticism even among some fellow Islamic extremists, and was apparently a source of some tension between him and al-Qaida’s central leadership, to which he had sworn allegiance. In July 2005, bin Laden’s deputy Ayman al-Zawahri reportedly wrote a letter to al-Zarqawi criticizing his attacks on Iraqi Shiite mosques and civilians, saying they hurt the mujahedeen’s image. The Egyptian-born al-Zawahri also asked al-Zarqawi for money, according to the U.S. military, which said it intercepted the message. Al-Zarqawi apparently brushed off the criticism as he continued to attack Shiites. Any tension between al-Zarqawi and al-Qaida’s command appeared to have faded this year because al-Zawahri issued three videotapes in which he effusively praised al-Zarqawi — including a tribute video last week similar to bin Laden’s Friday. The tribute videos appear to be part of an attempt by al-Qaida’s leadership to tout their connection to al-Zarqawi, who emerged as a hero among Islamic extremists with his dramatic attacks in Iraq and even stole the spotlight from bin Laden and al-Zawahri. Bin Laden’s mention of “instructions” to al-Zarqawi could be aimed to show the al-Qaida in Iraq leader was under his command. ‘One of our greatest knights’ “Al-Zarqawi’s story will live forever with the stories of the nobles, so don’t cry over one who is not missing,” bin Laden said. “He can teach the world a lesson on how to seize freedom ... and how to resist tyrants.” “Even if we lost one of our greatest knights and princes, we are happy that we have found a symbol for our great Islamic nations, one that the mujahedeen will remember and praise in poetry and in stories secretly and aloud,” bin Laden said. Bin Laden said Bush should return al-Zarqawi’s body and that Jordan’s King Abdullah II should allow the militant’s family to bury him. The Jordanian government has said it will never allow al-Zarqawi to be buried in his homeland because of a November triple suicide bombing his followers carried out in Amman hotels that killed 60 people. “What scares you about Abu Musab after he’s dead?” bin Laden said, addressing Abdullah. “You know that his funeral, if allowed to happen, would be a huge funeral showing the extent of sympathy with the mujahedeen.” The Associated Press contributed to this article. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13600778/ __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/berrychen/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://nyc-specialist.tumblr.com/

01-07-2006, 09:11 AM	#2
MrLick Lemon World Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 26,043 My Mood: Location: Spokane. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 66 Thanked 57 Times in 23 Posts	Bin Laden isnt real.... __________________ Even after all this time, the Sun never says to the Earth: "You owe me". Look at what happens with a love like that. It lights the whole sky.

01-07-2006, 09:15 AM	#3
anniep_93 Hello =] Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,218 Location: Where beer does flow and men chunder Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What makes you say that? He was around long before America got involved with him. __________________

01-07-2006, 09:23 AM	#4
MrLick Lemon World Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 26,043 My Mood: Location: Spokane. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 66 Thanked 57 Times in 23 Posts	I know. i was just being a pretentious asshole. btw are you a brandnew fan? __________________ Even after all this time, the Sun never says to the Earth: "You owe me". Look at what happens with a love like that. It lights the whole sky.

01-07-2006, 09:28 AM	#5
anniep_93 Hello =] Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,218 Location: Where beer does flow and men chunder Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nah I've been a CP fan for ages now. I'm a long time reader, relatively first time poster. __________________

01-07-2006, 09:34 AM	#6
MrLick Lemon World Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 26,043 My Mood: Location: Spokane. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 66 Thanked 57 Times in 23 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by anniep_93 Nah I've been a CP fan for ages now. I'm a long time reader, relatively first time poster. Im so damn stupid sometimes...sorry i saw the sic transit gloria thing on your sig and thats a song by the band brandnew. __________________ Even after all this time, the Sun never says to the Earth: "You owe me". Look at what happens with a love like that. It lights the whole sky.

01-07-2006, 09:40 AM	#7
anniep_93 Hello =] Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,218 Location: Where beer does flow and men chunder Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmm..I'm not sure. I got it from a line in the movie, Rushmore __________________

01-07-2006, 11:24 AM	#8
busybeeburns mr coldplaying himself Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,347 My Mood: Location: test Gender: Country: Seen CP: 20 times Fav. CP album: X&Y Fav. CP song: GPASUYF Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 5 Thanks given: 1,554 Thanked 941 Times in 423 Posts	Also: Quote: A new recording from al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden has been posted on an Islamist website. He praised Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq killed three weeks ago, as a "lion of holy war". The video, lasting 19 minutes, shows a still picture of Bin Laden, and moving pictures of al-Zarqawi. Unnamed US officials said the recording was authentic. It is the fourth audio message Bin Laden has released since the start of this year. However, no new video images of the al-Qaeda leader have appeared since October 2004. Last week a video was broadcast purportedly showing the deputy leader of al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahri, in which he paid tribute to Zarqawi and said his death would be avenged. In the latest recording, Bin Laden addresses US President George W Bush, warning him not to be "too happy" about Zarqawi's death, "for the banner [of al-Qaeda in Iraq] hasn't dropped but has passed from one lion of Islam to another lion". Bin Laden says al-Qaeda will go on with operations against the US and its allies. "We will continue, God willing, to fight you and your allies everywhere," he said, "in Iraq and Afghanistan and in Somalia and Sudan until we waste all your money and kill your men." In an apparent reference to a campaign against Iraq's Shias by Zarqawi, Bin Laden addressed "those who accuse Abu Musab of killing certain sectors of the Iraqi people". "Abu Musab had clear instructions to focus his fight on the occupiers," he went on, "particularly the Americans and to leave aside anyone who remains neutral." He called on President Bush to return Zarqawi's body to his family, and used rhyming couplets to eulogise the dead al-Qaeda leader. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5131818.stm

02-07-2006, 12:45 AM	#9
berrywoman Guy-a-licious Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,692 My Mood: Location: New York Cares Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank you Ian for bringing it back to topic.... __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/berrychen/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://nyc-specialist.tumblr.com/

02-07-2006, 07:22 AM	#10
MrLick Lemon World Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 26,043 My Mood: Location: Spokane. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 66 Thanked 57 Times in 23 Posts	and thank you for going back off topic.... __________________ Even after all this time, the Sun never says to the Earth: "You owe me". Look at what happens with a love like that. It lights the whole sky.

02-07-2006, 03:44 PM	#11
berrywoman Guy-a-licious Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,692 My Mood: Location: New York Cares Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	does anyone else remember when this guy was the sole reason and purpose for the war... what happened and why is this man so hard to find.... he has more new releases on video than Blockbuster.... __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/berrychen/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://nyc-specialist.tumblr.com/

02-07-2006, 03:55 PM	#12
GazeboflossUK Like Sleaze In The Park Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,621 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, infact, this wasn't even a video.....it was audio....mixed with old footage. __________________ We are tired of your abuse Try to stop us it's no use Society's arms think they're smart I find satisfaction in what they lack We are born with a chance I am gonna have my chance Rise above... Rise above... http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5...banner1rf7.gif I'm not here...

02-07-2006, 04:04 PM	#13
berrywoman Guy-a-licious Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,692 My Mood: Location: New York Cares Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	bah! same difference!! lol he probably lost his camcorder __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/berrychen/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://nyc-specialist.tumblr.com/

02-07-2006, 04:33 PM	#14
GazeboflossUK Like Sleaze In The Park Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,621 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by berrywoman bah! same difference!! lol he probably lost his camcorder Yeah, but it just goes to show that by calling it a NEW video, people automatically think he is still alive and well.......that he is a threat......when infact in the AUDIO it might not even be him at all. __________________ We are tired of your abuse Try to stop us it's no use Society's arms think they're smart I find satisfaction in what they lack We are born with a chance I am gonna have my chance Rise above... Rise above... http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5...banner1rf7.gif I'm not here...

02-07-2006, 04:43 PM	#15
berrywoman Guy-a-licious Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,692 My Mood: Location: New York Cares Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sources say that it is in fact him... but again.. it could all be propaganda... hurrah for propaganda! lol __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/berrychen/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://nyc-specialist.tumblr.com/