U2 - Page 266

the_gloaming09 · 04-03-2009, 05:33 AM

so i've listened to it once through and the tracks that really stood out for me were the title track, moment of surrender, i'll go crazy if i don't go crazy tonite, cedars of lebanon

Corkus · 04-03-2009, 05:51 AM

NLOTH has been out for a day and U2 already has set-in-stone plans for the next album? Are they really that insecure about how this latest experiemental outing goes over after their five-year gap between albums? Official word or not, I can't help but feel skepticism, and titles and dates will no doubt change constantly.

mc_squared · 04-03-2009, 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Briggins;2861453
It doesn't surprise me.
After all his only posts in the hockey and football threads were insulting the athletes or teams.

I think you need to get over it. You're taking everything way too seriously.

If someone criticizes your favourite band, football team or anything else you like, it isn't about you personally........................
Anyway, the overriding point is that it should be possible to criticize something without being attacked or mobbed.
That way everything would be much more chilled.

mc_squared · 04-03-2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvdmm;2860953
Im afraid I have to agree with mc_squared mate! First of all, we are not bashing U2 for any reason. And do you know what I find amusing? The fact that some people can come here and say “we don’t like viva la vida” or “coldplay this coldplay that”, but then if WE say anything negative about U2 and their new album, you guys start a huge argument over why we’ve slightly criticized them or their music!!! Personally I think it WAS a mistake that Bono called Chris a ****** on live radio, and even worse, on BBC2!! However, I still do acknowledge the fact that it was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek joke.

Now, me rating No Line on The Horizon 3 out of five had absolutely nothing to do with Bono’s comments, but rather personal taste in music; so don’t get me wrong, cuz im a huge U2 fan myself. So can everyone just stop criticizing Bono for what he said AND criticizing hardcore Coldplay fans including me for defending the boys!!! Go and have some Smirnoff Ice, it might help guys!!

Very well put. Anyway, it isn't as if anyone's said U2 are "rubbish" or Bono is a "talentless tw*t" or anything like that.
Some people are way too sensitive if you ask me.

The sad fact is that the memorable, anthemic U2 songs which propelled them to superstardom appear to have dried up, which is a great shame.
The new material might be well-produced, well-played, and have complex themes, but ultimately it pales in comparison to the classic material. End of.

seeyousoon35 · 04-03-2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Briggins;2861530
ahh sorry. Don't have the physical copy yet. I'll pick it up this weekend.

That's OK.

It is a really great CD!

MrMagpie · 04-03-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mc_squared;2861902
I think you need to get over it. You're taking everything way too seriously.
If someone criticizes your favourite band, football team or anything else you like, it isn't about you personally........................
Anyway, the overriding point is that it should be possible to criticize something without being attacked or mobbed.
That way everything would be much more chilled.

\

No I'm not taking it too seriously. If you have no knowledge about something you don't have the right to go around insulting it.

MrMagpie · 04-03-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corkus;2861714
NLOTH has been out for a day and U2 already has set-in-stone plans for the next album? Are they really that insecure about how this latest experiemental outing goes over after their five-year gap between albums? Official word or not, I can't help but feel skepticism, and titles and dates will no doubt change constantly.

They said a while ago a second album would be coming out, just wasnt until yesterday we found out the name of it.

MrMagpie · 04-03-2009, 04:56 PM

Magnificent on Letterman

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/articl...avid-letterman

footyfan10 · 04-03-2009, 09:53 PM

The thing I'm starting to find about U2's music is that even though it is very good, there is nothing classic about it.

You know when you hear a song and you just KNOW, you just know, that it's going be a classic.

It's essentially the difference between having a good time listening to an album right now, and then coming back to the song still in 5 years.

I feel there are a few songs on this album I will definitely come back to.

Maybe what I'm about to say is bad or not appreciative of NLOTH, but I really cannot wait for Songs of Ascent or whatever they change it to by its release date.

The one song I was really looking forward to on this album was Every Breaking Wave based on the Q or NME article talking about it. Not just that, but based on how they're talking about the album it seems more my speed.

The songs on this album are just so close to greatness. I guess that's how I'd describe this album. It's like its trying to touch greatness but its coming up a little short. It's one of their best albums top to bottom I think, with a number of solid songs spread throughout, but the songs never break into greatness. Magnificent, MOS and Breathe seem like they could be immortal songs if there was just something more to them or something less. There's always just something that doesn't make them great. Very good, but never great.

You know the quality I'm talking about? That "demands-to-be-listened-to" quality. Songs from Coldplay do this to me. Songs from Radiohead. So much of U2's back catalog. These songs do not demand a listen.

ricardo · 04-03-2009, 10:06 PM

I agree with you on that way.. their last 2 or 3 albums have been awesome, but not classic, as joshua, achtung, unforgettable fire etc

footyfan10 · 04-03-2009, 10:13 PM

yeah i mean. its the same sort of thing. im not sure why it is. i wouldnt say joshua tree or achtung has a great number of classic songs. they have a lot. there's just something about them that stands them apart.

i think of this similarly with Coldplay. X & Y has many very good songs, but no classics like Parachutes, A Rush Of Blood To The Head or even Viva la Vida (these songs are going to be classics...maybe not LIJ or Lost! but there are some classic songs).

That's the thing. Often times I find I like more songs on one album than another. I technically like more songs on X & Y than Parachutes. But the reality is that I think of Parachutes as a classic not simply because of its age but because there is some quality about it.

the_gloaming09 · 05-03-2009, 04:35 AM

at first listen i liked about 1/3-1/2 the songs... now i like pretty much all of them, but i'm still not completely familular w/ the 2nd half of the album (stand up comedy onward)

MrMagpie · 05-03-2009, 04:40 AM

glad you're liking it!
after hearing so many people expressing discontent.

the_gloaming09 · 05-03-2009, 04:46 AM

it's wierd, at first i didn't like "get your boots on" but now i do, i like the rhythm to it. the only songs that i don't care too much for are fez-breathe. the others i like alot (especially the title track, crazy tonight, moment of surrender, magnificent)

chuck kottke · 05-03-2009, 04:47 AM

In 500 years' time, will we be discussing U2 like Shakespeare is discussed today?

04-03-2009, 05:33 AM	#3976
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,944 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 43 Thanked 47 Times in 30 Posts	so i've listened to it once through and the tracks that really stood out for me were the title track, moment of surrender, i'll go crazy if i don't go crazy tonite, cedars of lebanon __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

04-03-2009, 08:11 AM	#3978
mc_squared Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 67,519 My Mood: Location: Wherever life takes me Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Briggins;2861453 It doesn't surprise me. After all his only posts in the hockey and football threads were insulting the athletes or teams. I think you need to get over it. You're taking everything way too seriously. If someone criticizes your favourite band, football team or anything else you like, it isn't about you personally........................ Anyway, the overriding point is that it should be possible to criticize something without being attacked or mobbed. That way everything would be much more chilled. __________________ LIFE ISN'T MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY Be yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. Work to live - don't live to work...................... Age is purely a state of mind! Don't waste your time on jealousy. Success is a journey, NOT a destination. Life is a marathon, NOT a sprint! http://www.generationterrorists.com/...sunscreen.html

04-03-2009, 08:35 AM	#3979
mc_squared Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 67,519 My Mood: Location: Wherever life takes me Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by nvdmm;2860953 Im afraid I have to agree with mc_squared mate! First of all, we are not bashing U2 for any reason. And do you know what I find amusing? The fact that some people can come here and say “we don’t like viva la vida” or “coldplay this coldplay that”, but then if WE say anything negative about U2 and their new album, you guys start a huge argument over why we’ve slightly criticized them or their music!!! Personally I think it WAS a mistake that Bono called Chris a ****** on live radio, and even worse, on BBC2!! However, I still do acknowledge the fact that it was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek joke. Now, me rating No Line on The Horizon 3 out of five had absolutely nothing to do with Bono’s comments, but rather personal taste in music; so don’t get me wrong, cuz im a huge U2 fan myself. So can everyone just stop criticizing Bono for what he said AND criticizing hardcore Coldplay fans including me for defending the boys!!! Go and have some Smirnoff Ice, it might help guys!! Very well put. Anyway, it isn't as if anyone's said U2 are "rubbish" or Bono is a "talentless twt" or anything like that. Some people are way too sensitive if you ask me. The sad fact is that the memorable, anthemic* U2 songs which propelled them to superstardom appear to have dried up, which is a great shame. The new material might be well-produced, well-played, and have complex themes, but ultimately it pales in comparison to the classic material. End of. __________________ LIFE ISN'T MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY Be yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. Work to live - don't live to work...................... Age is purely a state of mind! Don't waste your time on jealousy. Success is a journey, NOT a destination. Life is a marathon, NOT a sprint! http://www.generationterrorists.com/...sunscreen.html

04-03-2009, 02:13 PM	#3980
seeyousoon35 Such a lovely day... Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 177 My Mood: Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Briggins;2861530 ahh sorry. Don't have the physical copy yet. I'll pick it up this weekend. That's OK. It is a really great CD! __________________ http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...colplaying.jpg Oklahoma City 16 November 2008

04-03-2009, 04:11 PM	#3981
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by mc_squared;2861902 I think you need to get over it. You're taking everything way too seriously. If someone criticizes your favourite band, football team or anything else you like, it isn't about you personally........................ Anyway, the overriding point is that it should be possible to criticize something without being attacked or mobbed. That way everything would be much more chilled. \ No I'm not taking it too seriously. If you have no knowledge about something you don't have the right to go around insulting it.

04-03-2009, 05:51 AM	#3977
Corkus Pretentious Tool Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,518 My Mood: Location: Smoggy SoCal Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 28 Thanked 97 Times in 58 Posts	NLOTH has been out for a day and U2 already has set-in-stone plans for the next album? Are they really that insecure about how this latest experiemental outing goes over after their five-year gap between albums? Official word or not, I can't help but feel skepticism, and titles and dates will no doubt change constantly.

04-03-2009, 04:12 PM	#3982
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Corkus;2861714 NLOTH has been out for a day and U2 already has set-in-stone plans for the next album? Are they really that insecure about how this latest experiemental outing goes over after their five-year gap between albums? Official word or not, I can't help but feel skepticism, and titles and dates will no doubt change constantly. They said a while ago a second album would be coming out, just wasnt until yesterday we found out the name of it.

04-03-2009, 04:56 PM	#3983
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Magnificent on Letterman http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/articl...avid-letterman

04-03-2009, 09:53 PM	#3984
footyfan10 The Scientist Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 800 Location: Washington, DC Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The thing I'm starting to find about U2's music is that even though it is very good, there is nothing classic about it. You know when you hear a song and you just KNOW, you just know, that it's going be a classic. It's essentially the difference between having a good time listening to an album right now, and then coming back to the song still in 5 years. I feel there are a few songs on this album I will definitely come back to. Maybe what I'm about to say is bad or not appreciative of NLOTH, but I really cannot wait for Songs of Ascent or whatever they change it to by its release date. The one song I was really looking forward to on this album was Every Breaking Wave based on the Q or NME article talking about it. Not just that, but based on how they're talking about the album it seems more my speed. The songs on this album are just so close to greatness. I guess that's how I'd describe this album. It's like its trying to touch greatness but its coming up a little short. It's one of their best albums top to bottom I think, with a number of solid songs spread throughout, but the songs never break into greatness. Magnificent, MOS and Breathe seem like they could be immortal songs if there was just something more to them or something less. There's always just something that doesn't make them great. Very good, but never great. You know the quality I'm talking about? That "demands-to-be-listened-to" quality. Songs from Coldplay do this to me. Songs from Radiohead. So much of U2's back catalog. These songs do not demand a listen. __________________ swoop down from the sky and catch me like a bird of prey

04-03-2009, 10:06 PM	#3985
ricardo n00b Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10,741 Location: Under neon loneliness motorcycle emptiness Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree with you on that way.. their last 2 or 3 albums have been awesome, but not classic, as joshua, achtung, unforgettable fire etc __________________ :'( = Quote: Originally Posted by juanif94;4816627 Copy & Paste Quote: Originally Posted by Reilly;4824826 And practice kissing with your hand but not the one you masturbate with /thread

04-03-2009, 10:13 PM	#3986
footyfan10 The Scientist Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 800 Location: Washington, DC Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah i mean. its the same sort of thing. im not sure why it is. i wouldnt say joshua tree or achtung has a great number of classic songs. they have a lot. there's just something about them that stands them apart. i think of this similarly with Coldplay. X & Y has many very good songs, but no classics like Parachutes, A Rush Of Blood To The Head or even Viva la Vida (these songs are going to be classics...maybe not LIJ or Lost! but there are some classic songs). That's the thing. Often times I find I like more songs on one album than another. I technically like more songs on X & Y than Parachutes. But the reality is that I think of Parachutes as a classic not simply because of its age but because there is some quality about it. __________________ swoop down from the sky and catch me like a bird of prey

05-03-2009, 04:35 AM	#3987
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,944 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 43 Thanked 47 Times in 30 Posts	at first listen i liked about 1/3-1/2 the songs... now i like pretty much all of them, but i'm still not completely familular w/ the 2nd half of the album (stand up comedy onward) __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

05-03-2009, 04:40 AM	#3988
MrMagpie Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 26,887 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	glad you're liking it! after hearing so many people expressing discontent.

05-03-2009, 04:46 AM	#3989
the_gloaming09 Feral Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,944 My Mood: Location: NY Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 43 Thanked 47 Times in 30 Posts	it's wierd, at first i didn't like "get your boots on" but now i do, i like the rhythm to it. the only songs that i don't care too much for are fez-breathe. the others i like alot (especially the title track, crazy tonight, moment of surrender, magnificent) __________________ I'm not yours. You're not mine. That's just fine. Please. Don't. Judge. My Blog Facebook Twitter

05-03-2009, 04:47 AM	#3990
chuck kottke Gearwork for Clocks Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,425 My Mood: Location: Just north of Green Bay - near Lake Michigan's Western Shore Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	In 500 years' time, will we be discussing U2 like Shakespeare is discussed today?