Article: Why people hate Coldplay - Page 2

phantoneku · 21-05-2012, 05:55 AM

I'll admit too, that the article makes some sense at few points, but when the fog clears up, the reality is that not everyone can be pleased. I noticed the author attacked their lack of change, or lack of strength in instigating a new age or whatever, but that's what makes Coldplay so individualized, the fact that they found something that works, and continue to build upon it. Comparing them to other successful bands that did something different only shows their individuality, and the fantastic thing is that it works! If that shows weakness or plainness, this guy must be nuts. If it aint broke, don't fix it...

Alien Radio · 21-05-2012, 07:02 AM

Now I want the author of that article to tell me similarities between these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWLpTKBFcU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDj3sorWXbE

And if the world hated them, they wouldn't be the most popular band right now, with 2 songs over 100,000,000 views on YouTube...

fakfak · 21-05-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alien Radio;5302642
Now I want the author of that article to tell me similarities between these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWLpTKBFcU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDj3sorWXbE

And if the world hated them, they wouldn't be the most popular band right now, with 2 songs over 100,000,000 views on YouTube...

I've never gotten all the stuff about them sounding the same. Each of their 5 albums has a wholly distinct sound IMHO.

salichristina · 21-05-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fakfak;5302541
I think the piece is well written, mostly fair, and does have a few valid points.

However, I still say most of the stick they get is generated by that fact that people continue to assume Coldplay is trying to do something other than what they're actually doing.

Coldplay pretty much admits they just like to write and play pop music people enjoy. Judged soley by that standard, they are an unqualified success. Why do people assume they're trying to be "revolutionary" or break musical bounderies. Not every band is going after that, and I don't think that's Coldplay's goal. They just want to play yellow and make crowds of people smile by doing so.

Coldplay is a rock band that makes pop music, that's what they should be judged as IMHO.

I totally agree.. Anyone who has been to a Coldplay concert knows the band just wants the audience to feel free and uplifted by their lyrics and melodies. They never claim to be the next Hendrix or Dylan and it's unfair for critics to compare them to such icons when reaching that level is not their main focus. I think Coldplay should just focus on the fans (and yes, there are many of us) that love their music and dismiss all of the negativity.. I mean really, who has time for all of that bull$&!@ anyway?

Coeurli · 21-05-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fakfak;5302646
I've never gotten all the stuff about them sounding the same. Each of their 5 albums has a wholly distinct sound IMHO.

Tell that to my sister

Yu-tong · 21-05-2012, 09:37 AM

Well agreed with that. But not all of it.

Blue Nails · 21-05-2012, 10:06 AM

What people always seem to forget is that they're an amazing LIVE band. Isn't that the most important thing to judge an artist by: their concerts?

Even if you think Coldplay's music sucks, you are a pretty heartless person if you don't at least like them live. That's something people have to give them credit for.

kickinit4real22 · 21-05-2012, 10:48 AM

His argument is weak. All I got out of this article was that he is disappointed in that fact of what Coldplay should have or could have been. Like they could have been the next Led Zeppelin, but decided to take the pop route, which some how makes them inferior.

The whole part of how the don't write great music because Chris Martin is not being challenged by his bandmates, made me laugh.

lafinion · 21-05-2012, 12:18 PM

If A Rush of Blood to the Heart didn't make him happy, he should try Viva la Diva or something...

Cleggy · 21-05-2012, 04:37 PM

I have doubts the author of that article has actually heard a Coldplay song. He also seems to know absolutely nothing about how the band works. It's not a 'one-man band' at all. Yes, Chris is the main songwriter but the band would be nothing without Will, Jonny and Guy. It's well known that Will is highly critical of what the band puts out and only lets the very best songs get through.

What a horrible article. No research whatsoever.

winterplay · 21-05-2012, 06:14 PM

Everyone chillax, its just (J)onny (B)uckland having a little troll with us and the rest of the band.. cheeky bugger

on a more serious note this person has made some reasonable statements but in my opinion, he needs to take a more proper survey before talking bullcrap

Coeurli · 21-05-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleggy;5302851
He also seems to know absolutely nothing about how the band works. It's not a 'one-man band' at all. Yes, Chris is the main songwriter but the band would be nothing without Will, Jonny and Guy. It's well known that Will is highly critical of what the band puts out and only lets the very best songs get through.

This

He seems unaware of the "democracy" spirit in the band, and, even though Chris starts most songs, he's clearly not the only one making the song! As opposed to what Nikos Aliagas (

) said last January at the NRJ Music Awards, Coldplay is NOT "Chris Martin...and his musicians".

gryphus1 · 22-05-2012, 01:45 AM

I too have thought about Coldplay not being as famous and "legendary" as U2, REM, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, The Beatles and other bands, but that has a very simple explanation: while those bands have been known worldwide for more than 30 years, Coldplay has been quite underground until a decade ago. Therefore, 40 years old people have grown listening to those old bands and that's what they know most. Those bands have had enough time to release a lot of songs and albums, so more probabilities of their best ones allowing them to become legends. On the other hand, 25 years old people can hardly know the whole discography of bands that are older than them, simply because they haven't had the chance of growing in parallel with the evolution of those bands and their music through the time. This is where newer bands like Coldplay come into action: a young boy/girl discovers Coldplay's first publicly known songs (like Trouble) when he/she is 15 years old, and then he/she grows following their work, witnessing the release of their next albums: A Rush of Blood, X&Y, Viva la Vida... so by the time that young boy/girl is 25 years old he/she may have become a real fan. Therefore, the day this 25 years old fan gets to 40, Coldplay might be in that time what those other mentioned bands are nowadays. In summary, old bands like U2 have had time to make history while newer bands like Coldplay still are in the process of doing that job.
Therefore, it's unfair to compare Coldplay to the mentioned bands, and instead should be compared to others of its same time, like Keane or Maroon 5 for example.

That in first place, but in second place it might happen that Coldplay will never be as famous as the mentioned old bands, maybe because they don't want to (as someone mentioned here), maybe because people and circumstances won't allow them to, or maybe both. But that doesn't have to be bad: unknown bands don't become legends, but some of them produce really great music that has nothing to envy from the most prestigious ones (have you ever heard of Hooverphonic?). Maybe the only problem here is that Coldplay is famous enough not to be considered as underground, but not famous enough to be legendary yet.

SeldomSeenGirl · 22-05-2012, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Coeurli;5302976
This
He seems unaware of the "democracy" spirit in the band, and, even though Chris starts most songs, he's clearly not the only one making the song! As opposed to what Nikos Aliagas ( ) said last January at the NRJ Music Awards, Coldplay is NOT "Chris Martin...and his musicians".

EXACTLY. I've tried to explain this to people...my lovely mother and her boyfriend only know Chris because of Gwyneth anyway (bless them) but they've been force fed enough Coldplay to understand now....

There is most definitely a democracy, and probably more than a lot of bands around right now.

21-05-2012, 07:18 AM	#18
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Alien Radio;5302642 Now I want the author of that article to tell me similarities between these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWLpTKBFcU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDj3sorWXbE And if the world hated them, they wouldn't be the most popular band right now, with 2 songs over 100,000,000 views on YouTube... I've never gotten all the stuff about them sounding the same. Each of their 5 albums has a wholly distinct sound IMHO.

21-05-2012, 08:38 AM	#19
salichristina Raising The Flag Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 39 My Mood: Location: Vancouver Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 18 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Quote: Originally Posted by fakfak;5302541 I think the piece is well written, mostly fair, and does have a few valid points. However, I still say most of the stick they get is generated by that fact that people continue to assume Coldplay is trying to do something other than what they're actually doing. Coldplay pretty much admits they just like to write and play pop music people enjoy. Judged soley by that standard, they are an unqualified success. Why do people assume they're trying to be "revolutionary" or break musical bounderies. Not every band is going after that, and I don't think that's Coldplay's goal. They just want to play yellow and make crowds of people smile by doing so. Coldplay is a rock band that makes pop music, that's what they should be judged as IMHO. I totally agree.. Anyone who has been to a Coldplay concert knows the band just wants the audience to feel free and uplifted by their lyrics and melodies. They never claim to be the next Hendrix or Dylan and it's unfair for critics to compare them to such icons when reaching that level is not their main focus. I think Coldplay should just focus on the fans (and yes, there are many of us) that love their music and dismiss all of the negativity.. I mean really, who has time for all of that bull$&!@ anyway?

21-05-2012, 09:01 AM	#20
Coeurli It's pronounced Curly Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 13,862 Location: 136 Low Street, The Little Apple. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1,890 Thanked 1,495 Times in 850 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by fakfak;5302646 I've never gotten all the stuff about them sounding the same. Each of their 5 albums has a wholly distinct sound IMHO. Tell that to my sister __________________ A dazzled Coldplay fan. Also known as R Célly, or Nikola's PR. COLDPLAY: "Four very attractive young men playing the sexiest music ever created that will melt both your heart and your brain at the same time." "We're a punk band, you know that" - CM Stade de France, Paris, 2.09.2012 The night I had eye-sex twice with The Martin

21-05-2012, 09:37 AM	#21
Yu-tong Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,119 Location: Taichung City Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 19 Thanked 93 Times in 74 Posts	Well agreed with that. But not all of it. __________________ if you never try you'll never know Spoiler Recently, I'm really addicted to Ben Whishaw, Tom Hiddleston, Andrew Scott and David Tennant. Shows I'm watching are Doctor Who, House MD and UK series. Twitter My channel Blog Facebook Asian Ambassador 2012 1st place

21-05-2012, 08:15 PM	#27
Coeurli It's pronounced Curly Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 13,862 Location: 136 Low Street, The Little Apple. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1,890 Thanked 1,495 Times in 850 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Cleggy;5302851 He also seems to know absolutely nothing about how the band works. It's not a 'one-man band' at all. Yes, Chris is the main songwriter but the band would be nothing without Will, Jonny and Guy. It's well known that Will is highly critical of what the band puts out and only lets the very best songs get through. This He seems unaware of the "democracy" spirit in the band, and, even though Chris starts most songs, he's clearly not the only one making the song! As opposed to what Nikos Aliagas ( ) said last January at the NRJ Music Awards, Coldplay is NOT "Chris Martin...and his musicians". __________________ A dazzled Coldplay fan. Also known as R Célly, or Nikola's PR. COLDPLAY: "Four very attractive young men playing the sexiest music ever created that will melt both your heart and your brain at the same time." "We're a punk band, you know that" - CM Stade de France, Paris, 2.09.2012 The night I had eye-sex twice with The Martin

21-05-2012, 05:55 AM	#16
phantoneku Silencer Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,773 My Mood: Location: time travelling... (Chicago, IL) Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 294 Thanked 88 Times in 55 Posts	I'll admit too, that the article makes some sense at few points, but when the fog clears up, the reality is that not everyone can be pleased. I noticed the author attacked their lack of change, or lack of strength in instigating a new age or whatever, but that's what makes Coldplay so individualized, the fact that they found something that works, and continue to build upon it. Comparing them to other successful bands that did something different only shows their individuality, and the fantastic thing is that it works! If that shows weakness or plainness, this guy must be nuts. If it aint broke, don't fix it...

21-05-2012, 10:06 AM	#22
Blue Nails Imke. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,283 Location: a little row boat Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 241 Thanked 249 Times in 96 Posts	What people always seem to forget is that they're an amazing LIVE band. Isn't that the most important thing to judge an artist by: their concerts? Even if you think Coldplay's music sucks, you are a pretty heartless person if you don't at least like them live. That's something people have to give them credit for.

21-05-2012, 10:48 AM	#23
kickinit4real22 Coldplayer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 39 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	His argument is weak. All I got out of this article was that he is disappointed in that fact of what Coldplay should have or could have been. Like they could have been the next Led Zeppelin, but decided to take the pop route, which some how makes them inferior. The whole part of how the don't write great music because Chris Martin is not being challenged by his bandmates, made me laugh.

21-05-2012, 12:18 PM	#24
lafinion Coldplayer Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 139 Location: solid ground Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	If A Rush of Blood to the Heart didn't make him happy, he should try Viva la Diva or something...

21-05-2012, 04:37 PM	#25
Cleggy Just Another Coldplayer Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 484 My Mood: Location: England Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I have doubts the author of that article has actually heard a Coldplay song. He also seems to know absolutely nothing about how the band works. It's not a 'one-man band' at all. Yes, Chris is the main songwriter but the band would be nothing without Will, Jonny and Guy. It's well known that Will is highly critical of what the band puts out and only lets the very best songs get through. What a horrible article. No research whatsoever.

21-05-2012, 06:14 PM	#26
winterplay Jeremy hogarth Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3 Location: chorleywood, london Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Everyone chillax, its just (J)onny (B)uckland having a little troll with us and the rest of the band.. cheeky bugger on a more serious note this person has made some reasonable statements but in my opinion, he needs to take a more proper survey before talking bullcrap

22-05-2012, 01:45 AM	#28
gryphus1 Nemesis Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Griswall, Aurelia Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I too have thought about Coldplay not being as famous and "legendary" as U2, REM, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, The Beatles and other bands, but that has a very simple explanation: while those bands have been known worldwide for more than 30 years, Coldplay has been quite underground until a decade ago. Therefore, 40 years old people have grown listening to those old bands and that's what they know most. Those bands have had enough time to release a lot of songs and albums, so more probabilities of their best ones allowing them to become legends. On the other hand, 25 years old people can hardly know the whole discography of bands that are older than them, simply because they haven't had the chance of growing in parallel with the evolution of those bands and their music through the time. This is where newer bands like Coldplay come into action: a young boy/girl discovers Coldplay's first publicly known songs (like Trouble) when he/she is 15 years old, and then he/she grows following their work, witnessing the release of their next albums: A Rush of Blood, X&Y, Viva la Vida... so by the time that young boy/girl is 25 years old he/she may have become a real fan. Therefore, the day this 25 years old fan gets to 40, Coldplay might be in that time what those other mentioned bands are nowadays. In summary, old bands like U2 have had time to make history while newer bands like Coldplay still are in the process of doing that job. Therefore, it's unfair to compare Coldplay to the mentioned bands, and instead should be compared to others of its same time, like Keane or Maroon 5 for example. That in first place, but in second place it might happen that Coldplay will never be as famous as the mentioned old bands, maybe because they don't want to (as someone mentioned here), maybe because people and circumstances won't allow them to, or maybe both. But that doesn't have to be bad: unknown bands don't become legends, but some of them produce really great music that has nothing to envy from the most prestigious ones (have you ever heard of Hooverphonic?). Maybe the only problem here is that Coldplay is famous enough not to be considered as underground, but not famous enough to be legendary yet.

22-05-2012, 04:44 AM	#29
SeldomSeenGirl In My Place Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 30 My Mood: Location: Washington, DC. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 31 Times in 2 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Coeurli;5302976 This He seems unaware of the "democracy" spirit in the band, and, even though Chris starts most songs, he's clearly not the only one making the song! As opposed to what Nikos Aliagas ( ) said last January at the NRJ Music Awards, Coldplay is NOT "Chris Martin...and his musicians". EXACTLY. I've tried to explain this to people...my lovely mother and her boyfriend only know Chris because of Gwyneth anyway (bless them) but they've been force fed enough Coldplay to understand now.... There is most definitely a democracy, and probably more than a lot of bands around right now.