Ticket Scam Hollywood Bowl Show - Page 2

Caroline · 10-05-2012, 05:28 AM

I had a counterfeit ticket for the San Jose show. I bought it off eBay from someone with over 6000 reviews and 100% feedback. I was furious when it didn't work, but I was able to get in and I even got better seats! The lady on eBay said her friends had bought the tickets off of stubhub, so she was horrified. Thankfully, she refunded all my money ASAP.

fakfak · 10-05-2012, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Caroline;5295156
I had a counterfeit ticket for the San Jose show. I bought it off eBay from someone with over 6000 reviews and 100% feedback. I was furious when it didn't work, but I was able to get in and I even got better seats! The lady on eBay said her friends had bought the tickets off of stubhub, so she was horrified. Thankfully, she refunded all my money ASAP.

At least your situation worked out in the end.

LFDianne · 10-05-2012, 12:09 PM

The paperless shows I've bought tickets for don't allow the use of prepaid cards. As far as the scanning process goes, it's very similar to scanning paper tickets. There are flaws and restrictions, I'm sure, but it gives fans another layer of protection.

thatcoolguynamedreid · 11-05-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Corkus;5295138
The paperless ticket method actually has many flaws. For one, prepaid cards are scalped as tickets instead. It's an extra step for the scalper, but that didn't stop hundreds and hundreds of Radiohead tickets PER SHOW being sold through 3rd parties.

Second, if you're suddenly not able to make the show (because let's be honest, that happens to most of us every now and then), you're completely screwed.

And will call works for smaller shows, but not arenas, so the paperless ticket concept still needs to be refined a lot.

The radiohead show's tickets, all of which were sold through ticketmaster didnt allow pre-paid cards, to prevent scamming. i'm not saying it doesnt have its flaws, but paperless tickets are the best way to make sure that the fans get the best seats possible, not scalpers.

fakfak · 11-05-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thatcoolguynamedreid;5295635
The radiohead show's tickets, all of which were sold through ticketmaster didnt allow pre-paid cards, to prevent scamming. i'm not saying it doesnt have its flaws, but paperless tickets are the best way to make sure that the fans get the best seats possible, not scalpers.

We'll have to agree to disagree there. I still say paperless ticketing as it's currently done has the potential to inconvience legitimate fans at least as much as scalping, albeit in different ways, and as Crokus said, only really slows down the scalpers for a little while until they devise ways to game the new system. The reason that scalping exists in the first place is that there are people out there who will pay way over face value for premium seats, and no amount of fancy ticketing procedures will do away with that mentality which is the root of the issue.

Black Rose · 12-05-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by parisienne;5294744
I recently bought some tickets (not Coldplay) from StubHub too bc the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster and I would be absolutely devastated if they turned out to be fake, even if I do get my money back.

The whole concert ticket industry is so messed up, fans shouldn't have to resort to secondary sellers to buy tickets b/c tickets on Ticketmaster get sold out in seconds. I've literally tried during 5 different presales/sales/dates for this one music group I'm trying to see, and every time I've searched for tickets at the exact time sales opened up and came up with nothing. There's got to an easier way....

Replace "the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster" with "The tickets Ticketmaster put aside to sell on the primary market sold out within seconds, but unsurprisingly within seconds tickets were appearing on Get Me In at twice the face value as Ticketmaster or the promoter tries to get more money from the tickets.

Black Rose · 12-05-2012, 11:18 PM

How do the "paperless" shows work anyway, I'm guessing it's paperless as in it's not even e-tickets.

Only problem is when you can't make it to the show, or you got the tickets for a gift for someone or you lose your card.

E-tickets are very easy to scam, one seller could sell the same ticket over and over again, giving out the same link. The only time the buyer is any of the wiser is when they get turned away at the door for having a ticket which has been used already.

fakfak · 13-05-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Rose;5296587
How do the "paperless" shows work anyway, I'm guessing it's paperless as in it's not even e-tickets.

Only problem is when you can't make it to the show, or you got the tickets for a gift for someone or you lose your card.

E-tickets are very easy to scam, one seller could sell the same ticket over and over again, giving out the same link. The only time the buyer is any of the wiser is when they get turned away at the door for having a ticket which has been used already.

Exactly. Assuming that the venue/promoter/production are well set up to process e-tickets, they do (for the most part) eliminate or cut down on some common ticketing issues, but they give rise to a whole new set of issues. Nothing's perfect unfortunately.

BruinMel · 17-05-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Violin8;5293171
I was scammed on tickets for the Hollywood Bowl show on Friday. I was provided with hard tickets that looked totally legitimate but when I got to the gate and they were scanned, they came up invalid. Apparently this guy prints these fake tickets on ticketmaster cardstock. I was actually able to obtain info on this guy who apparently has a ring of people and who has a long history of fraud and has been doing this for years. There is a detective who has been following up on this guy for a couple years. I plan on filing a police report. If you were scammed, hit me up and I can send you a photo and additional info on this guy and hopefully we can get some justice.

I got scammed too. Would love to follow up on this if you could give me the name of the detective working on it.

10-05-2012, 05:28 AM	#16
Caroline Be A Bright Red Rose Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,068 My Mood: Location: Home, where I wanted to go... Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 74 Times in 29 Posts	I had a counterfeit ticket for the San Jose show. I bought it off eBay from someone with over 6000 reviews and 100% feedback. I was furious when it didn't work, but I was able to get in and I even got better seats! The lady on eBay said her friends had bought the tickets off of stubhub, so she was horrified. Thankfully, she refunded all my money ASAP. __________________ I'm aware of everyone running around and there's always a panic about something. The rains coming down, the wrist bands aren't working or Will-he's benched pressed too much and his abs have burst. I don't know what the problems might be, Guy's just become too handsome to be lit properly or Jonny's fingers have begun to move too fast and he can play too many notes. Whatever the problem is, I always enjoy watching it get solved before 9pm.

10-05-2012, 05:51 AM	#17
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Caroline;5295156 I had a counterfeit ticket for the San Jose show. I bought it off eBay from someone with over 6000 reviews and 100% feedback. I was furious when it didn't work, but I was able to get in and I even got better seats! The lady on eBay said her friends had bought the tickets off of stubhub, so she was horrified. Thankfully, she refunded all my money ASAP. At least your situation worked out in the end.

10-05-2012, 12:09 PM	#18
LFDianne Biggest Will Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,813 My Mood: Location: Standing next to Will at KROQ, Los Angeles Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 25 Thanked 260 Times in 93 Posts	The paperless shows I've bought tickets for don't allow the use of prepaid cards. As far as the scanning process goes, it's very similar to scanning paper tickets. There are flaws and restrictions, I'm sure, but it gives fans another layer of protection. __________________ Dianne 08/20/05 Irvine 2/06/06 Anaheim 7/14/08 Inglewood 11/25/08 Anaheim 7/18/09 Carson 07/19/09 Irvine 8/3/11 UCLA 9/15/11 Austin City Limits Taping 9/16/11 Austin City Limits Festival 10/17/11 the ellen show taping 10/18/11 KROQ studio, LA 2/8/12 Club Nokia 2/9/12 Jimmy Kimmel 4/28/12 San Jose 5/1/12 Hollywood Bowl 5/2/12 Hollywood Bow 5/3/12 American Idol Taping 5/4/12 Hollywood Bowl 5/5/12 KROQ Weenie Roast 6/28/12 Tampa 6/29/12 Miami 12/30/12 BROOKLYN, NY!!!

11-05-2012, 12:23 AM	#19
thatcoolguynamedreid Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5 My Mood: Location: Salem OR Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Corkus;5295138 The paperless ticket method actually has many flaws. For one, prepaid cards are scalped as tickets instead. It's an extra step for the scalper, but that didn't stop hundreds and hundreds of Radiohead tickets PER SHOW being sold through 3rd parties. Second, if you're suddenly not able to make the show (because let's be honest, that happens to most of us every now and then), you're completely screwed. And will call works for smaller shows, but not arenas, so the paperless ticket concept still needs to be refined a lot. The radiohead show's tickets, all of which were sold through ticketmaster didnt allow pre-paid cards, to prevent scamming. i'm not saying it doesnt have its flaws, but paperless tickets are the best way to make sure that the fans get the best seats possible, not scalpers.

11-05-2012, 07:16 AM	#20
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by thatcoolguynamedreid;5295635 The radiohead show's tickets, all of which were sold through ticketmaster didnt allow pre-paid cards, to prevent scamming. i'm not saying it doesnt have its flaws, but paperless tickets are the best way to make sure that the fans get the best seats possible, not scalpers. We'll have to agree to disagree there. I still say paperless ticketing as it's currently done has the potential to inconvience legitimate fans at least as much as scalping, albeit in different ways, and as Crokus said, only really slows down the scalpers for a little while until they devise ways to game the new system. The reason that scalping exists in the first place is that there are people out there who will pay way over face value for premium seats, and no amount of fancy ticketing procedures will do away with that mentality which is the root of the issue.

12-05-2012, 11:15 PM	#21
Black Rose Bear with me Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 47,548 My Mood: Location: A strangeland under the iron sea where hopes & fears can make the night train be in perfect symmetry Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 107 Times in 85 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by parisienne;5294744 I recently bought some tickets (not Coldplay) from StubHub too bc the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster and I would be absolutely devastated if they turned out to be fake, even if I do get my money back. The whole concert ticket industry is so messed up, fans shouldn't have to resort to secondary sellers to buy tickets b/c tickets on Ticketmaster get sold out in seconds. I've literally tried during 5 different presales/sales/dates for this one music group I'm trying to see, and every time I've searched for tickets at the exact time sales opened up and came up with nothing. There's got to an easier way.... Replace "the concerts sold out within seconds on Ticketmaster" with "The tickets Ticketmaster put aside to sell on the primary market sold out within seconds, but unsurprisingly within seconds tickets were appearing on Get Me In at twice the face value as Ticketmaster or the promoter tries to get more money from the tickets. __________________ You could take a picture of something you see In the future where will I be? You could climb a ladder up to the sun Or write a song nobody had sung Or do something that's never been done

12-05-2012, 11:18 PM	#22
Black Rose Bear with me Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 47,548 My Mood: Location: A strangeland under the iron sea where hopes & fears can make the night train be in perfect symmetry Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 107 Times in 85 Posts	How do the "paperless" shows work anyway, I'm guessing it's paperless as in it's not even e-tickets. Only problem is when you can't make it to the show, or you got the tickets for a gift for someone or you lose your card. E-tickets are very easy to scam, one seller could sell the same ticket over and over again, giving out the same link. The only time the buyer is any of the wiser is when they get turned away at the door for having a ticket which has been used already. __________________ You could take a picture of something you see In the future where will I be? You could climb a ladder up to the sun Or write a song nobody had sung Or do something that's never been done

13-05-2012, 10:57 PM	#23
fakfak Coldplayer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,914 My Mood: Location: Illinois Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 142 Thanked 94 Times in 79 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Black Rose;5296587 How do the "paperless" shows work anyway, I'm guessing it's paperless as in it's not even e-tickets. Only problem is when you can't make it to the show, or you got the tickets for a gift for someone or you lose your card. E-tickets are very easy to scam, one seller could sell the same ticket over and over again, giving out the same link. The only time the buyer is any of the wiser is when they get turned away at the door for having a ticket which has been used already. Exactly. Assuming that the venue/promoter/production are well set up to process e-tickets, they do (for the most part) eliminate or cut down on some common ticketing issues, but they give rise to a whole new set of issues. Nothing's perfect unfortunately.

17-05-2012, 03:13 PM	#24
BruinMel Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Violin8;5293171 I was scammed on tickets for the Hollywood Bowl show on Friday. I was provided with hard tickets that looked totally legitimate but when I got to the gate and they were scanned, they came up invalid. Apparently this guy prints these fake tickets on ticketmaster cardstock. I was actually able to obtain info on this guy who apparently has a ring of people and who has a long history of fraud and has been doing this for years. There is a detective who has been following up on this guy for a couple years. I plan on filing a police report. If you were scammed, hit me up and I can send you a photo and additional info on this guy and hopefully we can get some justice. I got scammed too. Would love to follow up on this if you could give me the name of the detective working on it.