The Official Club Football 2012/13 thread - Page 419

bart · 04-03-2012, 06:17 PM

I am rather dissapointed with Spurs...

Tnspieler1012 · 04-03-2012, 07:11 PM

Pogrebnyak. 5 goals in first 3 games.

Navegador · 04-03-2012, 08:38 PM

I can't believe Tottenham lost this match. They were better than United.

A friend of mine once said "Manchester United is the devil's team". Today, I finally understood it.

bart · 04-03-2012, 10:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navegador;5243523
I can't believe Tottenham lost this match. They were better than United.

A friend of mine once said "Manchester United is the devil's team". Today, I finally understood it.

You have a friend with great insight...

Written In Graffiti · 04-03-2012, 11:23 PM

I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons.

Tnspieler1012 · 04-03-2012, 11:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Written In Graffiti;5243694
I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons.

Yup.

Reilly · 05-03-2012, 12:26 AM

Everyone seems to be blaming the players which I don't really understand, they haven't been great this season and you can see some of them haven't made the most of their talent, but it's hard when you have a stubborn manager who doesn't have a fucking clue what he's doing. He's made so many decisions that have been suicidal all season, recently dropping Ashley Cole, Lampard AND Michael Essien (Who might just be Chelsea's best player) against Napoli and going away to Italy with absolutely no focus on defence- when you have a total moron like David Luiz in defence, you better make sure you have a defensive midfielder to cover when Luiz decides to have a little wander up the pitch 20 times in a game.

AVB is stubborn in the way that he'll make outrageous decisions in the hope they'll somehow work out so he'll look like this mysterious tactical genius, he's a pure egomaniac, but unlike his mentor Jose, he focuses on the little battles, not the war. He does certain players no justice when speaking out for them, look at how he dropped Frank Lampard at the start of the season (So keep in mind this is before Frank got vocal about his disapproval of AVB), Frank got on with it, accepted that he has to fight for his place like anyone else and it's the managers decision, very noble of him.

Frank, when he does play, is like a new footballer after a disappointing end to last season, and comes back in one particular game to score a hat-trick. OK fair enough a hat-trick shouldn't completely change your mind of a player, but in AVBs interview after the match, does he mention Frank? No, he avoids it. Does he praise Frank when inevitably pressed for an opinion on his performance? No, he couldn't even do that. The reason being because he had regularly been leaving Frank out of the side, so when he comes back to score 3 goals and also an assist, in AVB's eyes that's proving his decision making wrong (Even though it doesn't necessarily, but that how he sees things). Frank may need to fight for a place like everyone else, but certainly if anyone else had scored a hat-trick it would be one of the first things he'd mention.

Everything about his approach and decisions since coming to Chelsea has been wrong, he's always tried to stamp his authority as some of the first team players are as young as he is, but apart from a few idiots I think there's enough professionals at the club to do a job for the right manager, and I'm siding with the players here. You can say there's no excuse for a lack of commitment, but like in any situation, it gets to a point where you can no longer motivate yourself to be at your best when you are being managed by a stubborn arsehole.

Wow didn't quite intend to go off on one when I started writing that.

Tnspieler1012 · 05-03-2012, 12:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reilly;5243731
Everyone seems to be blaming the players which I don't really understand, they haven't been great this season and you can see some of them haven't made the most of their talent, but it's hard when you have a stubborn manager who doesn't have a fucking clue what he's doing. He's made so many decisions that have been suicidal all season, recently dropping Ashley Cole, Lampard AND Michael Essien (Who might just be Chelsea's best player) against Napoli and going away to Italy with absolutely no focus on defence- when you have a total moron like David Luiz in defence, you better make sure you have a defensive midfielder to cover when Luiz decides to have a little wander up the pitch 20 times in a game.

AVB is stubborn in the way that he'll make outrageous decisions in the hope they'll somehow work out so he'll look like this mysterious tactical genius, he's a pure egomaniac, but unlike his mentor Jose, he focuses on the little battles, not the way. He does certain players no justice when speaking out for them, look at how he dropped Frank Lampard at the start of the season (So keep in mind this is before Frank got vocal about his disapproval of AVB), Frank got on with it, accepted that he has to fight for his place like anyone else and it's the managers decision, very noble of him.

Frank, when he does play, is like a new footballer after a disappointing end to last season, and comes back in one particular game to score a hat-trick. OK fair enough a hat-trick shouldn't completely change your mind of a player, but in AVBs interview after the match, does he mention Frank? No, he avoids it. Does he praise Frank when inevitably pressed for an opinion on his performance? No, he couldn't even do that. The reason being because he had regularly been leaving Frank out of the side, so when he comes back to score 3 goals and also an assist, in AVB's eyes that's proving his decision making wrong (Even though it doesn't necessarily, but that how he sees things). Frank may need to fight for a place like everyone else, but certainly if anyone else had scored a hat-trick it would be one of the first things he'd mention.

Everything about his approach and decisions since coming to Chelsea has been wrong, he's always tried to stamp his authority as some of the first team players are as young as he is, but apart from a few idiots I think there's enough professionals at the club to do a job for the right manager, and I'm siding with the players here. You can say there's no excuse for a lack of commitment, but like in any situation, it gets to a point where you can no longer motivate yourself to be at your best when you are being managed by a stubborn arsehole.

Wow didn't quite intend to go off on one when I started writing that.

Well put. He doesn't seem to have much of a clue what he's doing by the looks of it, and he'l makes strange switches just to prove that he's 'doing something'. I won't pretend that I've watched much of them this year, but I was flabbergasted that Lampard was left out against Napoli.

Not to apologize for my previous post. Drogba is a shadow of what he was a few years ago, and Luiz can't defend worth a shit, but AVB had plenty of games from late last season to draw upon in figuring that out, yet he still just seems like a confused child.

Tnspieler1012 · 05-03-2012, 01:20 AM

Now... who wants to hear about my bad-ass MLS fantasy team!

Reilly · 05-03-2012, 01:49 AM

Hmm.... Not I.

bart · 05-03-2012, 10:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Written In Graffiti;5243694
I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons.

I am proud my team is Manchester City as its owner does not interfere with team affairs.

Reilly · 06-03-2012, 01:40 AM

Did anyone see the documentary "QPR: The Four Year Plan" shown last night on BBC2?

Or anyone outside the UK, I'd recommend looking for it, it's a really deep insight into how insanely self-absorbed and purely childish the billionaires who run football clubs can be. It's hilariously facepalm.

BagMaster · 06-03-2012, 06:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reilly;5245134
Did anyone see the documentary "QPR: The Four Year Plan" shown last night on BBC2?

Or anyone outside the UK, I'd recommend looking for it, it's a really deep insight into how insanely self-absorbed and purely childish the billionaires who run football clubs can be. It's hilariously facepalm.

ill try to find it. i don't live in the UK so i didn't see it but I'm really interested to watch it!

BagMaster · 06-03-2012, 06:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Written In Graffiti;5243694
I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons.

AVB should have stayed. I'm really disappointed they lost such a great manager

BagMaster · 06-03-2012, 06:58 PM

If Arsenal manage to bag up 4 goals and keep a clean sheet. i will be amazed.

04-03-2012, 06:17 PM	#6271
bart Something truly special Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 19,147 My Mood: Location: Barcelona Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 15 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	I am rather dissapointed with Spurs... __________________ Work in progress........... "Small club, with a small mentality" !! Mancini will always have my utmost respect and admiration...... Thank you Mancini. Thank you for everything. The King is dead. Long live the King The Daddy of the pub thread !!!

04-03-2012, 07:11 PM	#6272
Tnspieler1012 Come On, Let's Go Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 12,238 My Mood: Location: Prague, Czech Republic Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 58 Thanked 131 Times in 80 Posts	Pogrebnyak. 5 goals in first 3 games. __________________ "So I wanna live in a wooden house, where making more friends would be easy, I wanna live where the sun comes out..." Quote: Originally Posted by Karencorpse;4818717 Tnspieler1012 seams like a very interesting guy who has lots of interesting things to talk about and great things to do with her. Quote: Originally Posted by eff-exx;5237716 You're like the ultimate post-rocker in this forum. Quote: Originally Posted by Til_Kingdom_Come;5509315 Ha Ha!!! I guess you suck at geography as well as Rock music!!

04-03-2012, 08:38 PM	#6273
Navegador I'm so easy to please Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,207 Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I can't believe Tottenham lost this match. They were better than United. A friend of mine once said "Manchester United is the devil's team". Today, I finally understood it. __________________ INTERNACIONAL \| TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR INDIANAPOLIS COLTS \| NEW YORK METS \| BOSTON BRUINS

04-03-2012, 10:33 PM	#6274
bart Something truly special Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 19,147 My Mood: Location: Barcelona Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 15 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Navegador;5243523 I can't believe Tottenham lost this match. They were better than United. A friend of mine once said "Manchester United is the devil's team". Today, I finally understood it. You have a friend with great insight... __________________ Work in progress........... "Small club, with a small mentality" !! Mancini will always have my utmost respect and admiration...... Thank you Mancini. Thank you for everything. The King is dead. Long live the King The Daddy of the pub thread !!!

04-03-2012, 11:59 PM	#6276
Tnspieler1012 Come On, Let's Go Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 12,238 My Mood: Location: Prague, Czech Republic Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 58 Thanked 131 Times in 80 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Written In Graffiti;5243694 I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons. Yup. __________________ "So I wanna live in a wooden house, where making more friends would be easy, I wanna live where the sun comes out..." Quote: Originally Posted by Karencorpse;4818717 Tnspieler1012 seams like a very interesting guy who has lots of interesting things to talk about and great things to do with her. Quote: Originally Posted by eff-exx;5237716 You're like the ultimate post-rocker in this forum. Quote: Originally Posted by Til_Kingdom_Come;5509315 Ha Ha!!! I guess you suck at geography as well as Rock music!!

04-03-2012, 11:23 PM	#6275
Written In Graffiti Missing The Mark Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 103 My Mood: Location: England Gender: Country: Seen CP: 2 times Fav. CP album: MX Fav. CP song: ETIAW Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 16 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons.

05-03-2012, 12:26 AM	#6277
Reilly District 9er Badazz!11111 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 35,982 Chat posts: 61 Thanks given: 44 Thanked 336 Times in 192 Posts	Everyone seems to be blaming the players which I don't really understand, they haven't been great this season and you can see some of them haven't made the most of their talent, but it's hard when you have a stubborn manager who doesn't have a fucking clue what he's doing. He's made so many decisions that have been suicidal all season, recently dropping Ashley Cole, Lampard AND Michael Essien (Who might just be Chelsea's best player) against Napoli and going away to Italy with absolutely no focus on defence- when you have a total moron like David Luiz in defence, you better make sure you have a defensive midfielder to cover when Luiz decides to have a little wander up the pitch 20 times in a game. AVB is stubborn in the way that he'll make outrageous decisions in the hope they'll somehow work out so he'll look like this mysterious tactical genius, he's a pure egomaniac, but unlike his mentor Jose, he focuses on the little battles, not the war. He does certain players no justice when speaking out for them, look at how he dropped Frank Lampard at the start of the season (So keep in mind this is before Frank got vocal about his disapproval of AVB), Frank got on with it, accepted that he has to fight for his place like anyone else and it's the managers decision, very noble of him. Frank, when he does play, is like a new footballer after a disappointing end to last season, and comes back in one particular game to score a hat-trick. OK fair enough a hat-trick shouldn't completely change your mind of a player, but in AVBs interview after the match, does he mention Frank? No, he avoids it. Does he praise Frank when inevitably pressed for an opinion on his performance? No, he couldn't even do that. The reason being because he had regularly been leaving Frank out of the side, so when he comes back to score 3 goals and also an assist, in AVB's eyes that's proving his decision making wrong (Even though it doesn't necessarily, but that how he sees things). Frank may need to fight for a place like everyone else, but certainly if anyone else had scored a hat-trick it would be one of the first things he'd mention. Everything about his approach and decisions since coming to Chelsea has been wrong, he's always tried to stamp his authority as some of the first team players are as young as he is, but apart from a few idiots I think there's enough professionals at the club to do a job for the right manager, and I'm siding with the players here. You can say there's no excuse for a lack of commitment, but like in any situation, it gets to a point where you can no longer motivate yourself to be at your best when you are being managed by a stubborn arsehole. Wow didn't quite intend to go off on one when I started writing that. __________________ This door... ...needs some WD-40. Quote: Originally Posted by Fix42YellowClocks I cannot argue my point of the seemingly conflicting idea of why I have the right to argue people shouldn't be allowed to tell Coldplay to stop expressing themselves without a fundamental argument to the freedoms we enjoy. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

05-03-2012, 12:53 AM	#6278
Tnspieler1012 Come On, Let's Go Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 12,238 My Mood: Location: Prague, Czech Republic Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 58 Thanked 131 Times in 80 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Reilly;5243731 Everyone seems to be blaming the players which I don't really understand, they haven't been great this season and you can see some of them haven't made the most of their talent, but it's hard when you have a stubborn manager who doesn't have a fucking clue what he's doing. He's made so many decisions that have been suicidal all season, recently dropping Ashley Cole, Lampard AND Michael Essien (Who might just be Chelsea's best player) against Napoli and going away to Italy with absolutely no focus on defence- when you have a total moron like David Luiz in defence, you better make sure you have a defensive midfielder to cover when Luiz decides to have a little wander up the pitch 20 times in a game. AVB is stubborn in the way that he'll make outrageous decisions in the hope they'll somehow work out so he'll look like this mysterious tactical genius, he's a pure egomaniac, but unlike his mentor Jose, he focuses on the little battles, not the way. He does certain players no justice when speaking out for them, look at how he dropped Frank Lampard at the start of the season (So keep in mind this is before Frank got vocal about his disapproval of AVB), Frank got on with it, accepted that he has to fight for his place like anyone else and it's the managers decision, very noble of him. Frank, when he does play, is like a new footballer after a disappointing end to last season, and comes back in one particular game to score a hat-trick. OK fair enough a hat-trick shouldn't completely change your mind of a player, but in AVBs interview after the match, does he mention Frank? No, he avoids it. Does he praise Frank when inevitably pressed for an opinion on his performance? No, he couldn't even do that. The reason being because he had regularly been leaving Frank out of the side, so when he comes back to score 3 goals and also an assist, in AVB's eyes that's proving his decision making wrong (Even though it doesn't necessarily, but that how he sees things). Frank may need to fight for a place like everyone else, but certainly if anyone else had scored a hat-trick it would be one of the first things he'd mention. Everything about his approach and decisions since coming to Chelsea has been wrong, he's always tried to stamp his authority as some of the first team players are as young as he is, but apart from a few idiots I think there's enough professionals at the club to do a job for the right manager, and I'm siding with the players here. You can say there's no excuse for a lack of commitment, but like in any situation, it gets to a point where you can no longer motivate yourself to be at your best when you are being managed by a stubborn arsehole. Wow didn't quite intend to go off on one when I started writing that. Well put. He doesn't seem to have much of a clue what he's doing by the looks of it, and he'l makes strange switches just to prove that he's 'doing something'. I won't pretend that I've watched much of them this year, but I was flabbergasted that Lampard was left out against Napoli. Not to apologize for my previous post. Drogba is a shadow of what he was a few years ago, and Luiz can't defend worth a shit, but AVB had plenty of games from late last season to draw upon in figuring that out, yet he still just seems like a confused child. __________________ "So I wanna live in a wooden house, where making more friends would be easy, I wanna live where the sun comes out..." Quote: Originally Posted by Karencorpse;4818717 Tnspieler1012 seams like a very interesting guy who has lots of interesting things to talk about and great things to do with her. Quote: Originally Posted by eff-exx;5237716 You're like the ultimate post-rocker in this forum. Quote: Originally Posted by Til_Kingdom_Come;5509315 Ha Ha!!! I guess you suck at geography as well as Rock music!!

05-03-2012, 01:20 AM	#6279
Tnspieler1012 Come On, Let's Go Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 12,238 My Mood: Location: Prague, Czech Republic Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 58 Thanked 131 Times in 80 Posts	Now... who wants to hear about my bad-ass MLS fantasy team! __________________ "So I wanna live in a wooden house, where making more friends would be easy, I wanna live where the sun comes out..." Quote: Originally Posted by Karencorpse;4818717 Tnspieler1012 seams like a very interesting guy who has lots of interesting things to talk about and great things to do with her. Quote: Originally Posted by eff-exx;5237716 You're like the ultimate post-rocker in this forum. Quote: Originally Posted by Til_Kingdom_Come;5509315 Ha Ha!!! I guess you suck at geography as well as Rock music!!

05-03-2012, 01:49 AM	#6280
Reilly District 9er Badazz!11111 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 35,982 Chat posts: 61 Thanks given: 44 Thanked 336 Times in 192 Posts	Hmm.... Not I. __________________ This door... ...needs some WD-40. Quote: Originally Posted by Fix42YellowClocks I cannot argue my point of the seemingly conflicting idea of why I have the right to argue people shouldn't be allowed to tell Coldplay to stop expressing themselves without a fundamental argument to the freedoms we enjoy. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

05-03-2012, 10:39 PM	#6281
bart Something truly special Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 19,147 My Mood: Location: Barcelona Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 15 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Written In Graffiti;5243694 I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons. I am proud my team is Manchester City as its owner does not interfere with team affairs. __________________ Work in progress........... "Small club, with a small mentality" !! Mancini will always have my utmost respect and admiration...... Thank you Mancini. Thank you for everything. The King is dead. Long live the King The Daddy of the pub thread !!!

06-03-2012, 01:40 AM	#6282
Reilly District 9er Badazz!11111 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 35,982 Chat posts: 61 Thanks given: 44 Thanked 336 Times in 192 Posts	Did anyone see the documentary "QPR: The Four Year Plan" shown last night on BBC2? Or anyone outside the UK, I'd recommend looking for it, it's a really deep insight into how insanely self-absorbed and purely childish the billionaires who run football clubs can be. It's hilariously facepalm. __________________ This door... ...needs some WD-40. Quote: Originally Posted by Fix42YellowClocks I cannot argue my point of the seemingly conflicting idea of why I have the right to argue people shouldn't be allowed to tell Coldplay to stop expressing themselves without a fundamental argument to the freedoms we enjoy. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

06-03-2012, 06:56 PM	#6283
BagMaster Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 98 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Reilly;5245134 Did anyone see the documentary "QPR: The Four Year Plan" shown last night on BBC2? Or anyone outside the UK, I'd recommend looking for it, it's a really deep insight into how insanely self-absorbed and purely childish the billionaires who run football clubs can be. It's hilariously facepalm. ill try to find it. i don't live in the UK so i didn't see it but I'm really interested to watch it!

06-03-2012, 06:57 PM	#6284
BagMaster Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 98 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Written In Graffiti;5243694 I'm ashamed by my team (Chelsea). The players are a bunch of arrogant, overpaid and underperforming morons. AVB should have stayed. I'm really disappointed they lost such a great manager

06-03-2012, 06:58 PM	#6285
BagMaster Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 98 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If Arsenal manage to bag up 4 goals and keep a clean sheet. i will be amazed.