The Eno Effect - Page 21

St.Gregory · 07-06-2011, 11:54 AM

They should have gone for the whole package (eno+lanois), not just Eno alone.
Eno and Lanois together and you can't go wrong.

illuvcoldplay · 07-06-2011, 09:33 PM

every tear every tear every teardrop is a waterfall ........

sirajlyons · 15-07-2011, 07:56 PM

You can tell Brian Eno has made Coldplay way better, ever since he was hired, Viva la Vida and there new upcoming album sounds like music gold, cause it is. So in my opinion Brian Eno is a part of Coldplay's success, thank you brian eno.

42rock89 · 15-07-2011, 08:57 PM

Eno has been a positive influence no doubt about it, X&Y and VLVODAAHF sound very different yet the latter ended up being a very good album, didn't set the world on fire and wasn't as successful as X&Y was but Coldplay's best work is still to come imo the new album could be a masterpiece, we will have to wait and see

Mrk · 15-07-2011, 09:03 PM

^I agree. I would be pleased tohear a more "enoxificated" album (more ambient-like stuff)
Maybe short hidden tracks like this?
http://youtu.be/0TSJbT_NWUY

Spoiler

__________________

LFM / YT / SC

sirajlyons · 10-08-2011, 01:06 AM

Thank you brian Eno!!!!

Fix42YellowClocks · 10-08-2011, 04:25 AM

VlVoDaAHF is their second best album. And easily the most musically diverse. I'm very happy they started working with Brian Eno. Sure. He may direct them more and influence them more so than Ken Nelson or their other producers but what he's helped them become is really amazing. I was afraid Coldplay would be one of those bands with 2 or 3 really amazing albums and then keep making the same stuff over and over again and get really stale. But they didn't because they wanted to get BETTER not just BIGGER. VlV is amazing. the new songs, besides ETIAW, are dare I say...even better. I'm so glad they agreed to work with Brian so they didn't end up similar to bands like Nickelback and AC/DC who make good music but just keep making the same stuff over and over, go absolutely no where and have almost 0 progression in their music.

admnistramation · 10-08-2011, 05:04 AM

I'll need to hear the entire LP5 before I can make a judgement call, but I wouldn't be against keeping Markus Dravs around.

Skin&Bones · 10-08-2011, 05:27 AM

^ Markus is awesome!!! The Suburbs was genius!

Destrokk · 10-08-2011, 05:28 AM

In my honest opinion, I think like VLVODAAOHF was really good. But hearing the new album isn't really promosing and I feel like they forgot what they learned? Like lyrics, variety and experimentation.

And yeah sure I guess it has a little bit of that but they just kind of used the same ingredients and I guess that's what they meant by "acoustic" and I thought it would be something like Lovers in Japan in acoustic or pff maybe even Parachutes but they just went in another direction in which I didn't really expect and It sounds like something I've heard before like a chewed gum and some songs I like but not how I like Sparks, Yellow, Politik, The Hardest Part, LiT 2 and etc.
But thats what I have so far I think I'm just going a little head of myself by just a few listens of their new songs and taking ETDIAW as my base of opinion.

But we're talking about Brian Eno.. Something was missing.

Fix42YellowClocks · 10-08-2011, 06:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destrokk;4916477
In my honest opinion, I think like VLVODAAOHF was really good. But hearing the new album isn't really promosing and I feel like they forgot what they learned? Like lyrics, variety and experimentation.

And yeah sure I guess it has a little bit of that but they just kind of used the same ingredients and I guess that's what they meant by "acoustic" and I thought it would be something like Lovers in Japan in acoustic or pff maybe even Parachutes but they just went in another direction in which I didn't really expect and It sounds like something I've heard before like a chewed gum and some songs I like but not how I like Sparks, Yellow, Politik, The Hardest Part, LiT 2 and etc.
But thats what I have so far I think I'm just going a little head of myself by just a few listens of their new songs and taking ETDIAW as my base of opinion.

But we're talking about Brian Eno.. Something was missing.

It's not as different in terms of like cultural influences surely. But i think it is new in a different sort of way. And I don't think that's necessarily bad. I could see where people would say it's more pop-influenced. But there's no hip hop or rap or even collaborations. It's still the same four amazing talented musicians together. And I think the lyrics are some of the best they're ever written on certain songs; Hurts Like Heaven and Us Against the World are what I'm referring to. All of the new ones are at least decent lyrically. Minus ETIAW that is.

What's your sig from by the way? Never heard it but sounds really interesting. No Lie.

Skin&Bones · 10-08-2011, 06:19 AM

^I love the chewed-up gum analogy!

but I have to disagree. I think... yeah ETIAW is pretty main-stream stuff with not enough lyrical value, but I really can't say that about the other ones I've heard! Hurts Like Heaven and Princess of China are SUPREME!! Charlie Brown and Major Minus are great... but they're not the best. Us Against The World is a bit mawkish for even Coldplay. I will be surprised if it makes it on the album. But seriously, we've just hit the tip of the iceberg! You can't seriously base an album off 6 six songs (one of which will probably not make it on the album, and another that might barely make it on)!

1) They might not have played their best song yet. There's a chance they're saving the best ones for the album's release.
2) You haven't heard the studio versions yet.
and 3) you haven't heard the album in it's full glory.

I'm pretty sure they've been experimenting. Have you heard Moving To Mars yet? That's an incredible piece full of variety! It starts as a soft and intimate piano intro and transforms into a loud space symphony with a 'Houston, we have a problem' voice effect! It's gonna be great. Just see.

Skin&Bones · 10-08-2011, 06:20 AM

its* lord I suck at grammar

Fix42YellowClocks · 10-08-2011, 06:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skin&Bones;4916504
^I love the chewed-up gum analogy! but I have to disagree. I think... yeah ETIAW is pretty main-stream stuff with not enough lyrical value, but I really can't say that about the other ones I've heard! Hurts Like Heaven and Princess of China are SUPREME!! Charlie Brown and Major Minus are great... but they're not the best. Us Against The World is a bit mawkish for even Coldplay. I will be surprised if it makes it on the album. But seriously, we've just hit the tip of the iceberg! You can't seriously base an album off 6 six songs (one of which will probably not make it on the album, and another that might barely make it on)!

1) They might not have played their best song yet. There's a chance they're saving the best ones for the album's release.
2) You haven't heard the studio versions yet.
and 3) you haven't heard the album in it's full glory.

I'm pretty sure they've been experimenting. Have you heard Moving To Mars yet? That's an incredible piece full of variety! It starts as a soft and intimate piano intro and transforms into a loud space symphony with a 'Houston, we have a problem' voice effect! It's gonna be great. Just see.

My word! ^ How could I forget? Moving to Mars has some really good lyrics too. And that's three great points my friend. Very nice. (:

howyousawtheworld · 10-08-2011, 05:16 PM

Moving To Mars is perhaps the best produced Coldplay song I've ever heard. Phenomenal bit of work by all involved.

07-06-2011, 09:33 PM	#302
illuvcoldplay Chrissylicious Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,344 My Mood: Location: in between Guy and Chris Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 16 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	every tear every tear every teardrop is a waterfall ........ __________________ With COLDPLAY in my life I will never be LOST We'll be glowing in the dark, dreaming of Paradise COLDPLAY & JAYZ at Wembley 19/09/2009, Emirates 04/06/2012, Ethiad 10/06/2012

15-07-2011, 07:56 PM	#303
sirajlyons Mylo Xyloto Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 150 My Mood: Location: Toledo, Ohio Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Brain Eno and Coldplay You can tell Brian Eno has made Coldplay way better, ever since he was hired, Viva la Vida and there new upcoming album sounds like music gold, cause it is. So in my opinion Brian Eno is a part of Coldplay's success, thank you brian eno.

15-07-2011, 09:03 PM	#305
Mrk WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,574 My Mood: Location: Lost in time Gender: Country: Chat posts: 1 Thanks given: 90 Thanked 177 Times in 141 Posts	^I agree. I would be pleased tohear a more "enoxificated" album (more ambient-like stuff) Maybe short hidden tracks like this? http://youtu.be/0TSJbT_NWUY Spoiler Has anyone listened to Small Craft on a Milk Sea and Drums Between the Bells? __________________ LFM / YT / SC

10-08-2011, 04:25 AM	#307
Fix42YellowClocks Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 427 My Mood: Location: New York Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	VlVoDaAHF is their second best album. And easily the most musically diverse. I'm very happy they started working with Brian Eno. Sure. He may direct them more and influence them more so than Ken Nelson or their other producers but what he's helped them become is really amazing. I was afraid Coldplay would be one of those bands with 2 or 3 really amazing albums and then keep making the same stuff over and over again and get really stale. But they didn't because they wanted to get BETTER not just BIGGER. VlV is amazing. the new songs, besides ETIAW, are dare I say...even better. I'm so glad they agreed to work with Brian so they didn't end up similar to bands like Nickelback and AC/DC who make good music but just keep making the same stuff over and over, go absolutely no where and have almost 0 progression in their music. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Our Escape;5118238 1.Charlie Brown 2. Car Kids, 3. Car Kids II, 4. Car Kids (Live), 5. Car Kids (Acoustic), 6. Car Kids III: Return/Revenge of the Car Kids, 7. Car Kids: The White Duke Remix, Car Kids+ (feat. Jay-Z), 8. Car Kids I + II + III:Return/Revenge of the Car Kids (MEGA TRACK), 9. Car Kids (Acapella w/ Will), 10. Car Kids (Radiohead Cover) , 11. Car Kids+- (Radiohead Cover feat. Jay-Z), 12. The Great Expectations of Tomorrow's Wedding Bells of Don Quixote

10-08-2011, 05:28 AM	#310
Destrokk jef jefpoop Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 18,895 Location: Behind you. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 181 Thanked 429 Times in 230 Posts	In my honest opinion, I think like VLVODAAOHF was really good. But hearing the new album isn't really promosing and I feel like they forgot what they learned? Like lyrics, variety and experimentation. And yeah sure I guess it has a little bit of that but they just kind of used the same ingredients and I guess that's what they meant by "acoustic" and I thought it would be something like Lovers in Japan in acoustic or pff maybe even Parachutes but they just went in another direction in which I didn't really expect and It sounds like something I've heard before like a chewed gum and some songs I like but not how I like Sparks, Yellow, Politik, The Hardest Part, LiT 2 and etc. But thats what I have so far I think I'm just going a little head of myself by just a few listens of their new songs and taking ETDIAW as my base of opinion. But we're talking about Brian Eno.. Something was missing. __________________ no this is real

07-06-2011, 11:54 AM	#301
St.Gregory Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 30 Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	They should have gone for the whole package (eno+lanois), not just Eno alone. Eno and Lanois together and you can't go wrong.

15-07-2011, 08:57 PM	#304
42rock89 Defender of Paradise Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 630 Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Eno has been a positive influence no doubt about it, X&Y and VLVODAAHF sound very different yet the latter ended up being a very good album, didn't set the world on fire and wasn't as successful as X&Y was but Coldplay's best work is still to come imo the new album could be a masterpiece, we will have to wait and see

10-08-2011, 01:06 AM	#306
sirajlyons Mylo Xyloto Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 150 My Mood: Location: Toledo, Ohio Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you brian Eno!!!!

10-08-2011, 05:04 AM	#308
admnistramation MX Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,822 My Mood: Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I'll need to hear the entire LP5 before I can make a judgement call, but I wouldn't be against keeping Markus Dravs around.

10-08-2011, 05:27 AM	#309
Skin&Bones Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 361 My Mood: Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	^ Markus is awesome!!! The Suburbs was genius!

10-08-2011, 06:11 AM	#311
Fix42YellowClocks Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 427 My Mood: Location: New York Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Destrokk;4916477 In my honest opinion, I think like VLVODAAOHF was really good. But hearing the new album isn't really promosing and I feel like they forgot what they learned? Like lyrics, variety and experimentation. And yeah sure I guess it has a little bit of that but they just kind of used the same ingredients and I guess that's what they meant by "acoustic" and I thought it would be something like Lovers in Japan in acoustic or pff maybe even Parachutes but they just went in another direction in which I didn't really expect and It sounds like something I've heard before like a chewed gum and some songs I like but not how I like Sparks, Yellow, Politik, The Hardest Part, LiT 2 and etc. But thats what I have so far I think I'm just going a little head of myself by just a few listens of their new songs and taking ETDIAW as my base of opinion. But we're talking about Brian Eno.. Something was missing. It's not as different in terms of like cultural influences surely. But i think it is new in a different sort of way. And I don't think that's necessarily bad. I could see where people would say it's more pop-influenced. But there's no hip hop or rap or even collaborations. It's still the same four amazing talented musicians together. And I think the lyrics are some of the best they're ever written on certain songs; Hurts Like Heaven and Us Against the World are what I'm referring to. All of the new ones are at least decent lyrically. Minus ETIAW that is. What's your sig from by the way? Never heard it but sounds really interesting. No Lie. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Our Escape;5118238 1.Charlie Brown 2. Car Kids, 3. Car Kids II, 4. Car Kids (Live), 5. Car Kids (Acoustic), 6. Car Kids III: Return/Revenge of the Car Kids, 7. Car Kids: The White Duke Remix, Car Kids+ (feat. Jay-Z), 8. Car Kids I + II + III:Return/Revenge of the Car Kids (MEGA TRACK), 9. Car Kids (Acapella w/ Will), 10. Car Kids (Radiohead Cover) , 11. Car Kids+- (Radiohead Cover feat. Jay-Z), 12. The Great Expectations of Tomorrow's Wedding Bells of Don Quixote

10-08-2011, 06:19 AM	#312
Skin&Bones Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 361 My Mood: Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	^I love the chewed-up gum analogy! but I have to disagree. I think... yeah ETIAW is pretty main-stream stuff with not enough lyrical value, but I really can't say that about the other ones I've heard! Hurts Like Heaven and Princess of China are SUPREME!! Charlie Brown and Major Minus are great... but they're not the best. Us Against The World is a bit mawkish for even Coldplay. I will be surprised if it makes it on the album. But seriously, we've just hit the tip of the iceberg! You can't seriously base an album off 6 six songs (one of which will probably not make it on the album, and another that might barely make it on)! 1) They might not have played their best song yet. There's a chance they're saving the best ones for the album's release. 2) You haven't heard the studio versions yet. and 3) you haven't heard the album in it's full glory. I'm pretty sure they've been experimenting. Have you heard Moving To Mars yet? That's an incredible piece full of variety! It starts as a soft and intimate piano intro and transforms into a loud space symphony with a 'Houston, we have a problem' voice effect! It's gonna be great. Just see.

10-08-2011, 06:20 AM	#313
Skin&Bones Coldplayer Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 361 My Mood: Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	its* lord I suck at grammar

10-08-2011, 06:38 AM	#314
Fix42YellowClocks Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 427 My Mood: Location: New York Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Skin&Bones;4916504 ^I love the chewed-up gum analogy! but I have to disagree. I think... yeah ETIAW is pretty main-stream stuff with not enough lyrical value, but I really can't say that about the other ones I've heard! Hurts Like Heaven and Princess of China are SUPREME!! Charlie Brown and Major Minus are great... but they're not the best. Us Against The World is a bit mawkish for even Coldplay. I will be surprised if it makes it on the album. But seriously, we've just hit the tip of the iceberg! You can't seriously base an album off 6 six songs (one of which will probably not make it on the album, and another that might barely make it on)! 1) They might not have played their best song yet. There's a chance they're saving the best ones for the album's release. 2) You haven't heard the studio versions yet. and 3) you haven't heard the album in it's full glory. I'm pretty sure they've been experimenting. Have you heard Moving To Mars yet? That's an incredible piece full of variety! It starts as a soft and intimate piano intro and transforms into a loud space symphony with a 'Houston, we have a problem' voice effect! It's gonna be great. Just see. My word! ^ How could I forget? Moving to Mars has some really good lyrics too. And that's three great points my friend. Very nice. (: __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Our Escape;5118238 1.Charlie Brown 2. Car Kids, 3. Car Kids II, 4. Car Kids (Live), 5. Car Kids (Acoustic), 6. Car Kids III: Return/Revenge of the Car Kids, 7. Car Kids: The White Duke Remix, Car Kids+ (feat. Jay-Z), 8. Car Kids I + II + III:Return/Revenge of the Car Kids (MEGA TRACK), 9. Car Kids (Acapella w/ Will), 10. Car Kids (Radiohead Cover) , 11. Car Kids+- (Radiohead Cover feat. Jay-Z), 12. The Great Expectations of Tomorrow's Wedding Bells of Don Quixote

10-08-2011, 05:16 PM	#315
howyousawtheworld Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,756 Location: Scotland Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 13 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Moving To Mars is perhaps the best produced Coldplay song I've ever heard. Phenomenal bit of work by all involved.