Do they care? - Page 3

Destrokk · 11-06-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lore;4822340
I think they know (since Debs posts here) and probably they care. I hope they didn't just read the ETIAW comments because even if that song is terrible, the other songs they played are pretty good

What posts? Hi Debs

djwihfuefh

what have they posted anyways?

and also, i think people should just shut up about the song, theres not much you can do, plus it's not the end of the world. Just skip it. The good news is that the rest of the album sounds good imo, or atleast better than that single.

LoryABjerre · 11-06-2011, 10:04 PM

more is commercial. more is good for EMI is Business money

ColdplayingfromKansas · 11-06-2011, 10:55 PM

EMI may not be able to force Coldplay into producing a certain style of music, but they can control what songs they end up releasing--which I'm suspecting is what they did with ETiaW. I mean, has Coldplay ever given us an album's first single before announcing the release date/title/tracklisting? No (although I realize that ETiaW could be a standalone like Christmas Lights).

So the record companies have some control, but not total brainwashing control.

Pink · 12-06-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdplayingfromKansas;4823829
EMI may not be able to force Coldplay into producing a certain style of music, but they can control what songs they end up releasing--which I'm suspecting is what they did with ETiaW. I mean, has Coldplay ever given us an album's first single before announcing the release date/title/tracklisting? No (although I realize that ETiaW could be a standalone like Christmas Lights).

So the record companies have some control, but not total brainwashing control.

Do we know how many albums they have left on their contract with EMI? If they are nearing the end of their contract it wouldn't bode EMI well to piss them off. They are one of the few bands that still sells albums in meaningful numbers.

And even if EMI has some control, I cannot imagine Chris & Co. saying, "OK, let's write some poppy shit to make them happy." Whether I like the song or not, I have to believe THEY are proud of it. I'd be really disappointed to think they'd put out something they honestly think is crap to please the record company.

illuvcoldplay · 12-06-2011, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NumbersGirl;4822302
I'm guessing they might have an inkling, particularly based on the the recent tweet from Chris himself (gasp). I think they do care, but at the same time I don't think they should change what they're doing because of what we say. The whole idea of making music in the first place is the love of making it, not because you aim to do what other people want you to do. As long as they are making music that they want to make, that's what really matters in the end; but of course, they are the only ones who know that for sure.

That being said, I think ETIAW was just a little (highly devisive) hiccup. The other new stuff seems to be much more well-received.

I can agree with you here and it really goes to show that you really can't please people because if they kept producing the same music fans would complain its the same old same old over and over. I have read so many articles with people saying that the band is too whiny and boring, people need to understand that as music evolves so will the band and that they should appreciate that .

hotdensestate · 12-06-2011, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink;4823901
Do we know how many albums they have left on their contract with EMI? If they are nearing the end of their contract it wouldn't bode EMI well not to piss them off. They are one of the few bands that still sells albums in meaningful numbers.

And even if EMI has some control, I cannot imagine Chris & Co. saying, "OK, let's write some poppy shit to make them happy." Whether I like the song or not, I have to believe THEY are proud of it. I'd be really disappointed to think they'd put out something they honestly think of crap to please the record company.

Yeah, same. Seems really unlikely to me.

NumbersGirl · 12-06-2011, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink;4823901
Do we know how many albums they have left on their contract with EMI? If they are nearing the end of their contract it wouldn't bode EMI well not to piss them off. They are one of the few bands that still sells albums in meaningful numbers.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the contract is 5 albums, so this would be the last one.

givelovesolong · 12-06-2011, 02:28 AM

Yeah, thought it was 5 albums in the contract, too.

Tryptophan · 12-06-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by givelovesolong;4823994
Yeah, thought it was 5 albums in the contract, too.

Plus a greatest hits album, am I wrong?

valypan · 12-06-2011, 10:05 AM

I remember Chris saying once that you can´t please everyone...and that´s just it. A true artist produces music that is relevant to her/him and channels her/his own creativity in a unique personal way, regardless of the reaction of the outside world. This is true artistic expression. There will always be people who like the song and people who hate it. Regardless of how many like the song, Coldplay I am sure will stick to their vision , because that is the only way to be creative and evolve.

NumbersGirl · 12-06-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tryptophan;4824321
Plus a greatest hits album, am I wrong?

I hope not

11-06-2011, 10:03 PM	#31
Destrokk jef jefpoop Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 18,857 Location: Behind you. Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 180 Thanked 408 Times in 222 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Lore;4822340 I think they know (since Debs posts here) and probably they care. I hope they didn't just read the ETIAW comments because even if that song is terrible, the other songs they played are pretty good What posts? Hi Debs djwihfuefh what have they posted anyways? and also, i think people should just shut up about the song, theres not much you can do, plus it's not the end of the world. Just skip it. The good news is that the rest of the album sounds good imo, or atleast better than that single. __________________ no this is real

11-06-2011, 10:55 PM	#33
ColdplayingfromKansas All those clumsy things Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 8,860 Location: Kansas Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	EMI may not be able to force Coldplay into producing a certain style of music, but they can control what songs they end up releasing--which I'm suspecting is what they did with ETiaW. I mean, has Coldplay ever given us an album's first single before announcing the release date/title/tracklisting? No (although I realize that ETiaW could be a standalone like Christmas Lights). So the record companies have some control, but not total brainwashing control. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by editor42;5233602 now I just do weird things in the middle of the street

12-06-2011, 12:12 AM	#34
Pink Coldplayer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 588 Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 14 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by ColdplayingfromKansas;4823829 EMI may not be able to force Coldplay into producing a certain style of music, but they can control what songs they end up releasing--which I'm suspecting is what they did with ETiaW. I mean, has Coldplay ever given us an album's first single before announcing the release date/title/tracklisting? No (although I realize that ETiaW could be a standalone like Christmas Lights). So the record companies have some control, but not total brainwashing control. Do we know how many albums they have left on their contract with EMI? If they are nearing the end of their contract it wouldn't bode EMI well to piss them off. They are one of the few bands that still sells albums in meaningful numbers. And even if EMI has some control, I cannot imagine Chris & Co. saying, "OK, let's write some poppy shit to make them happy." Whether I like the song or not, I have to believe THEY are proud of it. I'd be really disappointed to think they'd put out something they honestly think is crap to please the record company. __________________ "You will make it, only if you run" - Julian Plenti Mine for Keeps: "A Rush of Blood to the Head" (song) -- Chris's "Fix You" crowd dash @ Sound Relief -- Chris & Jonny's acoustic performance of "The Scientist" @ Philly Y100 -- Interpol's thread -- "...and Gwyneth's making drumsticks," and Chris's laugh afterwords -- Anchorman's Happy Birthday shout-out to my son -- Unplugged "Us Against the World" @ Letterman gig 9/20/11

12-06-2011, 12:25 AM	#35
illuvcoldplay Chrissylicious Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,344 My Mood: Location: in between Guy and Chris Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 16 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by NumbersGirl;4822302 I'm guessing they might have an inkling, particularly based on the the recent tweet from Chris himself (gasp). I think they do care, but at the same time I don't think they should change what they're doing because of what we say. The whole idea of making music in the first place is the love of making it, not because you aim to do what other people want you to do. As long as they are making music that they want to make, that's what really matters in the end; but of course, they are the only ones who know that for sure. That being said, I think ETIAW was just a little (highly devisive) hiccup. The other new stuff seems to be much more well-received. I can agree with you here and it really goes to show that you really can't please people because if they kept producing the same music fans would complain its the same old same old over and over. I have read so many articles with people saying that the band is too whiny and boring, people need to understand that as music evolves so will the band and that they should appreciate that . __________________ With COLDPLAY in my life I will never be LOST We'll be glowing in the dark, dreaming of Paradise COLDPLAY & JAYZ at Wembley 19/09/2009, Emirates 04/06/2012, Ethiad 10/06/2012

12-06-2011, 12:25 AM	#36
hotdensestate shakeyourheadit'sempty Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,613 Location: In Limbo Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Pink;4823901 Do we know how many albums they have left on their contract with EMI? If they are nearing the end of their contract it wouldn't bode EMI well not to piss them off. They are one of the few bands that still sells albums in meaningful numbers. And even if EMI has some control, I cannot imagine Chris & Co. saying, "OK, let's write some poppy shit to make them happy." Whether I like the song or not, I have to believe THEY are proud of it. I'd be really disappointed to think they'd put out something they honestly think of crap to please the record company. Yeah, same. Seems really unlikely to me. __________________ and everybody here is a cloud, and everybody here will evaporate

11-06-2011, 10:04 PM	#32
LoryABjerre Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,937 My Mood: Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 92 Thanked 315 Times in 212 Posts	more is commercial. more is good for EMI is Business money

12-06-2011, 01:27 AM	#37
NumbersGirl sooner or later Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,487 Country: Fav. CP song: I Ramsterdam Atrouble Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 65 Thanked 179 Times in 98 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Pink;4823901 Do we know how many albums they have left on their contract with EMI? If they are nearing the end of their contract it wouldn't bode EMI well not to piss them off. They are one of the few bands that still sells albums in meaningful numbers. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the contract is 5 albums, so this would be the last one. __________________ there is no Carrie, only Zuul... the mongrel cat with the crazy-kitten smile

12-06-2011, 02:28 AM	#38
givelovesolong Coldplay Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 664 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, thought it was 5 albums in the contract, too. __________________ "Be a cartoon heart..."

12-06-2011, 09:43 AM	#39
Tryptophan Watch the orange glow Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 867 Location: Inside a bubble Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Quote: Originally Posted by givelovesolong;4823994 Yeah, thought it was 5 albums in the contract, too. Plus a greatest hits album, am I wrong?

12-06-2011, 10:05 AM	#40
valypan MXer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,551 My Mood: Location: Denmark Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 53 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts	I remember Chris saying once that you can´t please everyone...and that´s just it. A true artist produces music that is relevant to her/him and channels her/his own creativity in a unique personal way, regardless of the reaction of the outside world. This is true artistic expression. There will always be people who like the song and people who hate it. Regardless of how many like the song, Coldplay I am sure will stick to their vision , because that is the only way to be creative and evolve. __________________ Luminous and wired, glowing in the dark

12-06-2011, 03:28 PM	#41
NumbersGirl sooner or later Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,487 Country: Fav. CP song: I Ramsterdam Atrouble Fav. CP member: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 65 Thanked 179 Times in 98 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Tryptophan;4824321 Plus a greatest hits album, am I wrong? I hope not __________________ there is no Carrie, only Zuul... the mongrel cat with the crazy-kitten smile