How does Jonny contribute to this song?

[parachutes333]

I no longer hear the distinction of each member and their greatness... If you listen to Parachutes, each member has something to offer. Jonny with his unique riffs in it's simplest form.. I don't hear Jonny in this song... only at the end... He gets a brief solo... Have they hired davide rossi and kicked out Jonny? What's with all the strings?? They compliment a song sure... but I want to hear coldplay.. All 4 members.. Why are they hiring others to contribute to their music? They have created their best work before. And what's with Rihanna featuring in POE??? 2 versions fine but not the album version! I can't accept hearing a Coldplay album and Rihanna being in it.

[Hartroc]

We're still trying to find Jonny in Viva la Vida. :laugh3:

[parachutes333]

We're still trying to find Jonny in Viva la Vida. :laugh3:


Exactly....

[Hartroc]

Exactly....

It's just one song. Jonny is actually far more prominent on MX than he has been since Parachutes. Hurts Like Heaven and Major Minus are great examples.

[valypan]

I think they wanted to prioritize other sounds on Paradise, so they left Jonny´s riff til the end. It is very short, but it is quite beautiful. I am sure he will have plenty more coverage on other songs, as we already heard on MM, HLH,etc..

[Reilly]

I think if you're a REAL fan you have to ask, how does Jonny NOT contribute to this song?!

[TyM218]

Here we go with the parachutes comparisons again...

What about us against the world? That's about as parachute-y as it gets!

And if you watch the viva video and listen to it with decent headphones you'll hear his tiny sounding guitar in there. He plays during the bridges.

[QuestionsOfScience]

This is totally true, I mean maybe he has lots of underlying and subtle guitar lines which sound like something else?
But I keep getting this almost depressed feeling whenever I hear any of the songs form this era, as if it's their last, I dunno it's odd. It feels as if this is a band trying to push out something which isn't really there and the result is slightly unoriginal songs which follow the crowd...
I hope to god (if there is one) that he has a bigger part in the album, not for "parachutes sakes" but, judging by Martin's statements, if he's lied, that'll be rubbish.

[Hartroc]

Us Against the World is actually more like A Rush of Blood to the Head than Parachutes. It sounds like Green Eyes. Very simple riffs (Parachutes actually had some pretty intense guitar parts), with the vocal being the main (sole?) focus.

[Reilly]

And if you watch the viva video and listen to it with decent headphones you'll hear his tiny sounding guitar in there. He plays during the bridges.

That's just pathetic.

[TyM218]

That's just pathetic.

Yes, the evidence you have presented here cannot be disputed. How could I have missed that?!

[Juanma]

I think they wanted to prioritize other sounds on Paradise, so they left Jonny´s riff til the end. It is very short, but it is quite beautiful. I am sure he will have plenty more coverage on other songs, as we already heard on MM, HLH,etc..

this


jonny has lead in MM , CB , HLH , has guitar in MTM , Paradise,ETIAW,etc..

this thread is useless :lol:

[The Mad Hatter]

Yes, the evidence you have presented here cannot be disputed. How could I have missed that?!

REILLY, DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT WE MUST BE LIKE LAWYERS ON THIS COLDPLAY FORUM

[Reilly]

Yes, the evidence you have presented here cannot be disputed. How could I have missed that?!

Just to make it clear, the specifics you've gone into to understand a guitar players "tiny" contribution to one single song, is pathetic. It's not a surprise you missed that.

[Technicolor Sparks]

I can hear Jonny...:uhoh:

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

I can hear Jonny in VLV alright. It's more clear in live versions though. It's subtle but still adds to it a lot. And of course, he plays the strings in the first half of the song (live).

Paradise...similar story, but he does get the solo now. Jonny will probably play the synth strings for the first part of the song. Actually, I'm secretly hoping most of the string parts become guitar solos for Jonny.

But all the other songs, Jonny is the driving force. Even ETIAW centers around Jonny's riffs, I would argue, except for the first 45 or so seconds which just has synth and acoustic guitar.

[Blockflote]

:inquisitive:

Strawberry Swing, Yes, Lost!, Cemeteries Of London, Life In Technicolor, Violet Hill, Loves In Japan
ETIAW, Charlie Brown, Hurts Like Heaven, Major Minus..

:book2:

[valypan]

I mean Charlie Brown has a chorus that is practically only made up of Jonny´s guitar part...that says it all. And Major Minus ´backbone is 90% Jonny. He is gonna rule in MX :)

[Kiame]

This is a fantastic example of a cherry picked argument. You don't like MX so to criticize it you point out the fact that Johnny only has one moment during Paradise. But you forget Hurts Like Heaven, Charlie Brown and Major Minus - three songs that involve him extremely heavily. Please point to a song from the older albums that features Jonny as extensively as those three?

You can't.

Also, ETIAW's chorus is Jonny's riff.

[valypan]

I almost hear Jonny as a second singer on the new songs...he always seems to complement Chris quite nicely :)

[isrlns]

I can hear more Jonny on Paradise than on Trouble.

[Blockflote]

I can hear more Jonny on Paradise than on Trouble.

:shocked2:

[isrlns]

:shocked2:

I'm not saying that it's not present on Trouble, I say that on Paradise there is a proper riff, so it's more prominent. When you talk with someone about Trouble the electric guitar is not the first thing you mention. Y punto. xD

(I obviously prefer Trouble over Paradise, just saying that you don't have to hear everything on every single song)

[Blockflote]

I'm not saying that it's not present on Trouble, I say that on Paradise there is a proper riff, so it's more prominent. When you talk with someone about Trouble the electric guitar is not the first thing you mention. Y punto. xD

(I obviously prefer Trouble over Paradise, just saying that you don't have to hear everything on every single song)

Trouble have guitar on the whole song (in the beginning, chorus, at the end). Paradise only at the end. Y punto :lol:

[Samuel_94]

I'm sorry but this is a stupid thread/argument. If you listen properly you can hear all of the band in all of the new songs!!! More than ever!

[valypan]

Should you be in any doubt, hear the thundering riff in Paradise live at ACL :)

[Stv]

Jonny contributed a lot more in ACL performance

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

Should you be in any doubt, hear the thundering riff in Paradise live at ACL :)

Jonny contributed a lot more in ACL performance

This!

Even on the studio version, I think a lot of stuff like the opening riff is actually Jonny but it just doesn't sound immediately like him.

[valypan]

This!

Even on the studio version, I think a lot of stuff like the opening riff is actually Jonny but it just doesn't sound immediately like him.

I love your signature picture and quote. I actually feel like that nearly all the time and I love Lost! :)

[Blue Nails]

I loved how Jonny completely rocked out during God Put A Smile at ACL. That guitar was having a hard time. :laugh3:

[Stv]

Coldplay - Paradise (Official) - YouTube

[Stv]

At 1:29 there's clearly the sound of Jonny's guitar

[valypan]

At 1:29 there's clearly the sound of Jonny's guitar

Wow that actually sounds like synths to me? But who knows what pedals/effects can make a guitar sound like these days. Anyway, Jonny´s guitar purrs also at 3:19-3:21.

(I think by the way a whole thread should be dedicated to the wonder that is Guy´s bass in this song!)