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Skin&Bones
14-08-2011, 08:28 AM
Up In Flames was written in the spur of a moment situation just a matter of weeks ago, and now the album is being finalized. Clocks was also one of these spur of the moment songs, and it ended up being arguable their best hit (behind Viva of course).

Would you say Up In Flames could be this song? Chris Martin and Co. seem to be pretty excited about it in particular, and obviously Phil does too!

Even though we haven't heard it, what would you think?

Chloe_Martin
14-08-2011, 08:30 AM
When I hear the title UP With Flames I am a bit clueless from what to expect

MosesTheMarshmallow
14-08-2011, 09:37 AM
They DID say "bass heavy"...even though Clocks is mostly remembered for its piano riff, the whole song really relies on the bass.

valypan
14-08-2011, 12:00 PM
Interesting speculation. I donīt think the title is as epic as Clocks, but never judge a book by its cover , right? Chris said they are all pretty fired up and maybe last momentsīcreations like UIF might actually turn out to be the best ones. I donīt really feel this will be a new Clocks, but good reasoning

ColdplayingfromKansas
14-08-2011, 02:00 PM
Well, Up In Flames will have to be flipping amazing to be better than Clocks :P And I don't think there will ever be another song that can beat it, but I could definitely see UIF becoming one one of their bigger hits :nod:

Who knows? Maybe this album will have four huge songs that will still be played years from now (a la ARoBttH) :shrug:

Wickett
14-08-2011, 02:03 PM
Honestly I'm thinking it's another Yes deal. A very different kind of Coldplay song that doesn't receive near as much attention as it should.

ColdplayingfromKansas
14-08-2011, 03:16 PM
^ Unfortunately, that's always a possibility :\

strikie
14-08-2011, 03:40 PM
a last moment song probably isn't something totally different..

I would be happily surprised hearing song(s) which are as great as clocks.

footyfan10
14-08-2011, 04:54 PM
Actually the song you're thinking of was the scientist. The band had written all the other songs, and what came last was the scientist. The "missing piece" for arobtth. I know this because ive made it my business to know everything about that song as its my favorite.

In that sense it does sound like the band consider it a missing piece, but who can say what that means about its potential popularity.

ColdplayingfromKansas
14-08-2011, 05:59 PM
^ Uhh . . . actually I'm pretty sure it was Clocks because I remember reading something about Chris waking up and going to the studio in the middle of the night because he had this piano sequence stuck in his head. He called Jonny and he came down to the studio also and they figured it out between them.

Skin&Bones
14-08-2011, 07:24 PM
Actually the song you're thinking of was the scientist. The band had written all the other songs, and what came last was the scientist. The "missing piece" for arobtth. I know this because ive made it my business to know everything about that song as its my favorite.

In that sense it does sound like the band consider it a missing piece, but who can say what that means about its potential popularity.

If I'm not mistaken, The Scientist was also one of those songs (I actually watched the interview of Chris Martin :P ) He said it was created right after George Harrison's death and he was inspired by one of his songs, and then the rest came to him. The whole song was created in, like, 3 minutes. Then he got the band to layer their instruments on top.

Clocks was also one of those songs. Here's what I read off Wikipedia. It said it was composed during the 'late stages' of the album process, and they already had ten songs for the album. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clocks_(song)

admnistramation
15-08-2011, 12:01 AM
If anything it reminds me of Strawberry Swing. Wasn't that one written last minute, too?

Skin&Bones
15-08-2011, 12:03 AM
No idea!

ColdplayingfromKansas
15-08-2011, 12:09 AM
If anything it reminds me of Strawberry Swing. Wasn't that one written last minute, too?

I have no idea but if it was then that makes several of Coldplay's best songs ones that were written on the spur of a moment and rush-recorded. :D

chuck kottke
15-08-2011, 12:25 AM
I wonder... if the name Up In Flames refers to a decidedly non-green energy policy persued by David Cameron? If this article is any indication: Up In Flames: Cameron's pledge to lead the greenest government ever - Johann Hari, Commentators - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/up-in-flames-camerons-pledge-to-lead-the-greenest-government-ever-2283861.html)
Which spells trouble for the UK's clean drinking water (as it does here on the east coast), and may do a huge disservice to the planet's climate. Beware of Hydraulic Fracking!

Skin&Bones
15-08-2011, 12:35 AM
^ Well, Coldplay is notorious for their environmental endorsement!! ;) lol

ColdplayingfromKansas
15-08-2011, 01:03 AM
^ Except for that balloon incident :P

Skin&Bones
15-08-2011, 01:16 AM
^ Oh yeah! I forgot about that... :laugh3:

Stv
15-08-2011, 02:33 AM
Maybe this album will have four huge songs that will still be played years from now (a la ARoBttH) :shrug:

Yes, Charlie Brown, ETIAW, PoC and HLH

RedBalloon
15-08-2011, 01:20 PM
Maybe it depends on whether it would fit into one of the three possible sequencing lists. As disclosed in the latest article/interview, a conceptual "love in oppression" album with a happy ending only if you hear it in a right order. I am guessing this song might fill in a blank part of the canvas - before they finish, we still don't know the whole picture and how it is blended.

Blue Nails
16-08-2011, 01:36 PM
If they can, at this point of their career, still write a song as good as Clocks, they're officially going to be crowned the most amazing band to ever walk this earth.

IMHO.

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-08-2011, 02:17 PM
^ :wink3:

RedBalloon
17-08-2011, 09:06 AM
I've put on a Memorial Blog [http://www.myspace.com/nanciblues/blog/543935332] for Clocks - as I felt "synchronizing" again. Right after that day, I got the news of LP5 album title from Co. email list. I still remember how I was touched and inspired by the first two albums...Maybe we all have such a period of time, be most absorbing, eyes wide open, usually sth. significant happened as well..ahhh...

aschall
18-08-2011, 01:31 AM
up in flames will probably be LP5's VLV,Yellow,Fix You,Clocks.
it'll be the big hit
:wink3:

aschall
18-08-2011, 01:32 AM
... or it will suck:laugh3:

chuck kottke
18-08-2011, 02:32 AM
I hear the sound of the ticking of clocks...

Stv
18-08-2011, 03:36 PM
:phu: I think that if it has no bells like the ones in VLV and Lhuna, no awesome bassline, and is not similar to yes, it will sort of suck...

Hartroc
19-08-2011, 12:27 AM
:phu: I think that if it has no bells like the ones in VLV and Lhuna, no awesome bassline, and is not similar to yes, it will sort of suck...

I think we can count on some sweet bass, based on the Billboard article. :P

VIVA.42
19-08-2011, 07:44 AM
toy story 2 was alright

ColdplayingfromKansas
20-08-2011, 05:36 PM
I think we can count on some sweet bass, based on the Billboard article. :P

Indeed :wink3: I can't wait to hear it. Awesome basslines are the one thing that Coldplay is a bit lax in. Poor Guy. :disappointed:

Mark
20-08-2011, 09:36 PM
Actually the song you're thinking of was the scientist. The band had written all the other songs, and what came last was the scientist. The "missing piece" for arobtth. I know this because ive made it my business to know everything about that song as its my favorite.

In that sense it does sound like the band consider it a missing piece, but who can say what that means about its potential popularity.

Could you tell us some more about the song that we may not know :P

JackZ
20-08-2011, 09:57 PM
toy story 2 was alright

:laugh3::laugh3: That should've been the graffiti on the album cover...

TecHniCoLoR_MX
21-08-2011, 04:43 PM
Interesting speculation. I donīt think the title is as epic as Clocks, but never judge a book by its cover , right? Chris said they are all pretty fired up and maybe last momentsīcreations like UIF might actually turn out to be the best ones. I donīt really feel this will be a new Clocks, but good reasoning

agreed.

ColdplayingfromKansas
21-08-2011, 04:59 PM
I think Clocks and Up In Flames are both excellent titles :snobby:

Well . . . better than Every Teardrop Is a Waterfall, anyway :P

Cleggy
21-08-2011, 05:02 PM
Indeed :wink3: I can't wait to hear it. Awesome basslines are the one thing that Coldplay is a bit lax in. Poor Guy. :disappointed:

God Put A Smile Upon Your Face has a fantastic bassline. It's one of the best I've heard. But yeah most of them aren't great, most of the time Guy is just playing the root note for whatever chord is being played by the rest of the band.

I'm worried that 'bass-heavy' just means that the bass is louder than usual rather than having a great bassline.

Strawberry Swinger
21-08-2011, 07:14 PM
So basically ... Every spur of the moment song must sound like Clocks or Strawberry Swing? :facepalm:

ColdplayingfromKansas
21-08-2011, 07:15 PM
^^ I love the bassline of GPASUYP :wacky:

And Cemeteries of London . . . and Violet Hill . . . and I don't really know if it's the bass, but there are some freakin' cool parts in Yes . . . and I'm just going to stop now :P

ColdplayingfromKansas
21-08-2011, 07:16 PM
So basically ... Every spur of the moment song must sound like Clocks or Strawberry Swing? :facepalm:

Was Strawberry Swing a last-minute song? :thinking:

macky
23-08-2011, 03:31 PM
Up In Flames was written in the spur of a moment situation just a matter of weeks ago, and now the album is being finalized. Clocks was also one of these spur of the moment songs, and it ended up being arguable their best hit (behind Viva of course).

Would you say Up In Flames could be this song? Chris Martin and Co. seem to be pretty excited about it in particular, and obviously Phil does too!

Even though we haven't heard it, what would you think?

You're joking right?
Clocks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLV

admnistramation
23-08-2011, 11:43 PM
VLV reached platinum.

hux90
24-08-2011, 12:12 AM
You're joking right?
Clocks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLV

Wait, are you saying Clocks [is bigger than] Viva?? You must be kidding.

If you are somehow expressing (badly) that Clocks is better than Viva,
that is a question of opinion.

But you'd still be wrong

ColdplayingfromKansas
24-08-2011, 12:18 AM
You're joking right?
Clocks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLV

I think what Skin&Bones meant was that Viva has sold more copies and is known by more people than Clocks (after all, Viva was the biggest song in the world in 2008/09 while Clocks, although huge, didn't come close to selling that many copies)

But in terms of the 'better' song (lyric wise, etc.) then yes, I would agree with you :P

Prospector
24-08-2011, 12:21 AM
Was Strawberry Swing a last-minute song? :thinking:

I remember reading somewhere that it was writen early in process and scrapped. Than in the ending they added the afro drums and thought: "Hey now this is great, the best song we have". Something like that...

Prospector
24-08-2011, 12:24 AM
I think what Skin&Bones meant was that Viva has sold more copies and is known by more people than Clocks (after all, Viva was the biggest song in the world in 2008/09 while Clocks, although huge, didn't come close to selling that many copies)

But in terms of the 'better' song (lyric wise, etc.) then yes, I would agree with you :P

The lyrics for clocks just don't make sense for me, Viva, in my in my humble opinion, has they're best lyrics.

macky
24-08-2011, 07:20 PM
I think what Skin&Bones meant was that Viva has sold more copies and is known by more people than Clocks (after all, Viva was the biggest song in the world in 2008/09 while Clocks, although huge, didn't come close to selling that many copies)

But in terms of the 'better' song (lyric wise, etc.) then yes, I would agree with you :P

+1

For me Yellow put Coldplay on a map, Clocks made people take them seriously and VLV took their career to the next level.
But IMO Clocks is a better song than VLV. Still VLV is one of my favorite song and most played on my Ipod. So I don't dislike it.

VLV sold more copies than Clocks because when Clocks was released people bought albums not just singles. And the promotion that VLV got (remember those Itunes commercials on tv every 5min??) was 100 times than Clocks.

ColdplayingfromKansas
26-08-2011, 02:14 AM
^ :nod: exactly.

The only time I buy a single is if it's available before the album (i.e. Paradise) but sadly that doesn't seem to be the case with the majority of my generation :dozey:

cbelle94
06-09-2011, 01:54 AM
This was posted today by Roadie #42 (http://www.coldplay.com/newsdetail.php?id=775):

Up In Flames feels the same to me right now [as "Fix You" did]. It’s immense. I first heard it when the guys were sound-checking at the iTunes show. Apparently, Chris had started the song the previous night, so it was less than 24 hours old at that point. It was hypnotic in its simplicity, but devastatingly, achingly gorgeous. The final version has lost none of this and is a masterwork of restraint. It hasn’t been crammed with a million ideas and embellishments. Every part is there simply to enhance the emotional impact. I can only predict floods of tears in every quarter.

So... I kind of really want to hear this song now. (: Maybe not the next "Clocks"... but, instead, the next "Fix You?"

ColdplayingfromKansas
06-09-2011, 01:55 AM
^ :nod:

I'm super excited either way :wacky:

Batmotor
08-09-2011, 07:13 PM
this title is cool but,you predict by its title if it will be better or worse then clocks.

What an stupid thing to think.

ColdplayingfromKansas
08-09-2011, 11:50 PM
^ Actually, that was us just getting a bit off-topic :rolleyes:

We were originally basing it on the fact that both Up In Flames and Clocks were written at the last minute and rush-recorded to make their respective albums (of course, this is assuming UIF will make the cut, but from what we've heard, I'd say that's a safe bet to make ;) )

Brent
08-09-2011, 11:52 PM
I bet that if Up in Flames is a single, it will also be a part of the MX cover: The middle part that kind of explodes out. You know. The "Flames."

Batmotor
15-09-2011, 12:16 PM
^ Actually, that was us just getting a bit off-topic :rolleyes:

We were originally basing it on the fact that both Up In Flames and Clocks were written at the last minute and rush-recorded to make their respective albums (of course, this is assuming UIF will make the cut, but from what we've heard, I'd say that's a safe bet to make ;) )

are you serious?

Blue Nails
15-09-2011, 01:22 PM
^ Why so serious?

ColdplayingfromKansas
15-09-2011, 01:38 PM
^ :lol:

lifeincoldplaycolor
26-09-2011, 08:47 PM
now that we now it sounds more like cocks