Hey Coldplay, this is your Joshua Tree moment, don't mess it up.

[MrMagpie]

http://files.sharenator.com/Challenge_accepted_Meme_Faces-s400x300-156975-580.jpg

Since we all love a U2 vs. Coldplay debate.

[Stv]

OK, I don't know what to make of this...

[MrMagpie]

me neither. you do know what the Joshua Tree is though?

[Lore]

so ETIAW is Coldplay's Where The Streets Have no Name? :lol:

[cold_love23]

Since we all love a U2 vs. Coldplay debate.



Coldplay >>> U2.

debate over.

[MrMagpie]

so ETIAW is Coldplay's Where The Streets Have no Name? :lol:

Yes. Didn't you notice that Chris was missing a testicle?

Coldplay >>> U2.

debate over.

U2 >>>Coldplay.

Debate reopened.

[the_gloaming09]

There was a comment I read that some music writer called this album their Sgt. Pepper, so you have to take that into consideration for this thread.

[Stv]

Coldplay >>> U2.

debate over.

:lol:

[Lore]

There was a comment I read that some music writer called this album their Sgt. Pepper, so you have to take that into consideration for this thread.

Yeah because coldplay are better than the beatles of course :wink:

[MrMagpie]

You're just a blind beatles fangirl. Pfft

[Megalomania]

so ETIAW is Coldplay's Where The Streets Have no Name? :lol:

I actually gigglesnorted at this. :lol:

[the_escapist]

it's a matter of taste.

[the_gloaming09]

Yeah because coldplay are better than the beatles of course :wink:
or the next beatles maybe?

You're just a blind beatles fangirl. Pfft

don't forget radiohead ;)

[Lore]

You're just a blind beatles fangirl. Pfft
you know me too well :disappointed:

[Infogatherer]

Their Joshua Tree moment was after the release of ARoBTTH.


/debate

[the_escapist]

I really don't like you at all Mr. Briggins.

I guess the Coldplay vs. U2 debate is in order, but the Miley Cyrus thing is just sad.

Take advantage of time, it is a non-renewable natural resource.

[The Mad Hatter]

Unless you're immortal.

[MrMagpie]

I really don't like you at all Mr. Briggins.

I guess the Coldplay vs. U2 debate is in order, but the Miley Cyrus thing is just sad.

Take advantage of time, it is a non-renewable natural resource.

I would like to take the time to say I love you and want to have your babies.

[Ms Magpie]

Maybe it's their Kid A!

[the_gloaming09]

Maybe it's their Kid A!

yes :awesome:

[Infogatherer]

Maybe it's their Kid A!

Oh God No.

[howyousawtheworld]

ETIAW was totally a Get On Your Boots. I actually think the latter is an even naffer single, but it worked alright in NLOTH which unlike others I loved.

[Major_Love]

I really don't like you at all Mr. Briggins.

I guess the Coldplay vs. U2 debate is in order, but the Miley Cyrus thing is just sad.

Take advantage of time, it is a non-renewable natural resource.

God, you are so right here!
:)

[Infogatherer]

ETIAW was totally a Get On Your Boots. I actually think the latter is an even naffer single, but it worked alright in NLOTH which unlike others I loved.

Now this I agree with.

[coldplayisawesome]

Unless you're immortal.

is Briggins immortal??? :o

[w1ll1am7]

I would like to take the time to say I love you and want to have your babies.

^ boss mode, saw your tweet, lol-ing

[Lore]

is Briggins immortal??? :o

:nod:

[The Mad Hatter]

:nod:

:nod:

[chuck kottke]

Have you ever seen a Joshua Tree? Joshua Tree Pictures (http://greattreepictures.onsugar.com/Joshua-Tree-Pictures-18649210)
Coldplay may have a watershed moment though! :)

[howyousawtheworld]

Now this I agree with.

When I saw Get On Your Boots performed at Glastonbury on tv in June I thought 'why the hell are they still believing in this rubbish?'

To think they left out Magnificent, City of Blinding Lights and New Years Day from the setlist it was an even bigger insult I thought!

[Ms Magpie]

Anything to keep filler fans going!


Okay, I'll shut up. :nod:

[MrMagpie]

ETIAW was totally a Get On Your Boots. I actually think the latter is an even naffer single, but it worked alright in NLOTH which unlike others I loved.

Yeah I thought in the context of the album it worked pretty good. It was fun live too.

[w1ll1am7]

No Line was a good album was one piece of music - people who say it's crap don't know what they're talking about imo...

and to the CP vs. U2 debate, how many years does U2 have on Coldplay? when Coldplay (if they catch up) then it's fair to compare

[MrMagpie]

Yeah, that's the main point I like to make.

Like let's see where Coldplay are at the 30 year point in their career if they can even make it that far.

[fwise3]

Have you ever seen a Joshua Tree? Joshua Tree Pictures (http://greattreepictures.onsugar.com/Joshua-Tree-Pictures-18649210)
Coldplay may have a watershed moment though! :)


Watershed as in Opeth???

[chuck kottke]

Watershed as in Opeth???:laugh3: Not exactly what I was referring to, but interesting aside!
Alright, how about Coldplay's Glacial moment?:)

[Infogatherer]

To think they left out Magnificent, City of Blinding Lights and New Years Day from the setlist it was an even bigger insult I thought!

Ah, They've been that way since Achtung.

[fwise3]

:laugh3: Not exactly what I was referring to, but interesting aside!
Alright, how about Coldplay's Glacial moment?:)

LOL I gotcha! :laugh3: ...but just curious, anyone here an Opeth fan? (I realize this may be the first time anyone has mentioned Opeth on a Coldplay forum :P)

[Alien Radio]

Maybe it's their Kid A!

Would love that! :awesome:

[MrMagpie]

Ah, They've been that way since Achtung.

Yeah, they left Magnificent out of their set lists until the 360 tour!

[Malcolm-Edge]

This is their Joshua Tree in a sense, U2 were around and popular before The Unforgettable Fire, with "New Years Day", "Sunday Bloody Sunday", however when UF was released it contained one of their biggest hits ever, and one of the biggest in music history. 'Pride' is still played to this day, it hit the top of the charts, but helped them drive their own ship.

Of course Coldplay enjoyed a larger degree of success faster into their careers than U2, Coldplay had a number one single on their first go with 'Yellow' they had a masterpiece album at number 2.

One would say that MX is their Achtung Baby. This is their chance to answer the critics, those who say they aren't genuine. They have achieved success around the world, now this is their chance to pull a 180 and blow people out of the water and say "wow". This album will also need a tour to the level of Zoo TV, not the Joshua Tree Tour. Zoo TV was a show on epic proportions.

Coldplay need to ball up and book themselves into North American Stadiums. They sold out the Rogers Center in Toronto more than once, believe me when I say they can sell out Soldier Field, the Rose Bowl, Quest Field, and they need to take the risk.

Coldplay had their Joshua Tree and that was Viva La Vida, they were applauded and criticized. Now its time for them to say "Fuck it, we are going to put on a show"

[Chloe_Martin]

You compared Coldplay to u2 ........... :bigcry:

[howyousawtheworld]

This is their Joshua Tree in a sense, U2 were around and popular before The Unforgettable Fire, with "New Years Day", "Sunday Bloody Sunday", however when UF was released it contained one of their biggest hits ever, and one of the biggest in music history. 'Pride' is still played to this day, it hit the top of the charts, but helped them drive their own ship.

Of course Coldplay enjoyed a larger degree of success faster into their careers than U2, Coldplay had a number one single on their first go with 'Yellow' they had a masterpiece album at number 2.

One would say that MX is their Achtung Baby. This is their chance to answer the critics, those who say they aren't genuine. They have achieved success around the world, now this is their chance to pull a 180 and blow people out of the water and say "wow". This album will also need a tour to the level of Zoo TV, not the Joshua Tree Tour. Zoo TV was a show on epic proportions.

Coldplay need to ball up and book themselves into North American Stadiums. They sold out the Rogers Center in Toronto more than once, believe me when I say they can sell out Soldier Field, the Rose Bowl, Quest Field, and they need to take the risk.

Coldplay had their Joshua Tree and that was Viva La Vida, they were applauded and criticized. Now its time for them to say "Fuck it, we are going to put on a show"

You can never get tired of a bit of Pride. But I agree. They shouldn't be afraid of putting on a big show. They know they can do small arena's (Crisis Gigs at Christmas). Now it's time to push things to the maximum because it might be their one and only chance.

[Megalomania]

No Line was a good album was one piece of music - people who say it's crap don't know what they're talking about imo...

and to the CP vs. U2 debate, how many years does U2 have on Coldplay? when Coldplay (if they catch up) then it's fair to compare

I think I have a decently open mind about music, and I even like The Joshua Tree by U2. . . but I absolutely could not stand No Line. :shrug: The only song I enjoyed was Get On Your Boots, and that's only because it was catchy. I just honestly could not stand Bono's singing on the album. :\

[admnistramation]

Coldplay = U2

They're both mediocre in their own special ways. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go masturbate to the great masterpiece that is The King Of Limbs.

[Reilly]

It will probably be more like a Joshua Shrub HAHAHAHA

[the_gloaming09]

No Line was a good album was one piece of music - people who say it's crap don't know what they're talking about imo...

and to the CP vs. U2 debate, how many years does U2 have on Coldplay? when Coldplay (if they catch up) then it's fair to compare


I agree... I actually really enjoyed No Line a lot.

That's true... U2 have so much more experience and accomplishments.

You can never get tired of a bit of Pride. But I agree. They shouldn't be afraid of putting on a big show. They know they can do small arena's (Crisis Gigs at Christmas). Now it's time to push things to the maximum because it might be their one and only chance.

Never actually been a fan of Pride


Coldplay = U2

They're both mediocre in their own special ways. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go masturbate to the great masterpiece that is The King Of Limbs.

:inquisitive:

I wouldn't call TKOL a masterpiece by any means

[the_gloaming09]

It will probably be more like a Joshua Shrub HAHAHAHA

:rolleyes: :dozey:



...you really must miss him.

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

I agree... I actually really enjoyed No Line a lot.

That's true... U2 have so much more experience and accomplishments.



Never actually been a fan of Pride




:inquisitive:

I wouldn't call TKOL a masterpiece by any means



Meh, No Line was alright :shrug: And so is Pride, but neither are a great example of U2's best work by any means.

And agreed--maybe if Coldplay decides to keep going past 10+ albums then we can compare. It's too early yet, the way I see it; their Joshua Tree moment may have been ARoBttH or it may be LP8.

And I wasn't impressed by TKoL either :nod:

[Chloe_Martin]

Coldplay is 100% better than u2


just sayin

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

Coldplay is 100% better than u2


just sayin

I would have to agree with you. I find Bono's voice . . . annoying--I can listen to U2, but after three or four songs I get tired of it. Whereas Chris' voice is very soothing and I've listened to Coldplay for hours on end and not gotten tired.

But I do respect them because I know they're a great band that have made their mark on the music industry :nod:

[Hartroc]

I would have to agree with you. I find Bono's voice . . . annoying--I can listen to U2, but after three or four songs I get tired of it. Whereas Chris' voice is very soothing and I've listened to Coldplay for hours on end and not gotten tired.

But I do respect them because I know they're a great band that have made their mark on the music industry :nod:

Bono's voice used to be brilliant. New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Pride, Bad, With Or Without You, Red Hill Mining Town...I'd like to see Chris sing any one of those. Plus, U2 has got FAR, FAR better lyrics. And so, so many classic songs. Sorry guys, but for now U2 > Coldplay. Come back in twenty years, we'll have this debate again.

[Brent]

Coldplay = U2

They're both mediocre in their own special ways. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go masturbate to the great masterpiece that is The King Of Limbs.

Enjoy yourself!

[Reilly]

:rolleyes: :dozey:



...you really must miss him.

No I honestly thought that was kindof funny. :blank:

No, really.

[the_gloaming09]

No I honestly thought that was kindof funny. :blank:

No, really.

:lol:


taking after your idol I see :lol:

[Juanma]

u2 1976 to now
coldplay 1997 to now

u2 12 albums so far
coldplay 4 albums released so far

u2 150 million records aprox.
coldplay 50 million records aprox.


just give Coldplay some years and youll see :awesome:

[Reilly]

:lol:


taking after your idol I see :lol:

Mike you are treading on thin ice. :uneasy:































:wacko:

[the_gloaming09]

:lol:

it's alright if you miss him... he was a good guy afterall right? :P

[Megalomania]

Why do my posts always get buried? :|

Anyways, I actually laughed at your joke Reilly. :P

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

Bono's voice used to be brilliant. New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Pride, Bad, With Or Without You, Red Hill Mining Town...I'd like to see Chris sing any one of those. Plus, U2 has got FAR, FAR better lyrics. And so, so many classic songs. Sorry guys, but for now U2 > Coldplay. Come back in twenty years, we'll have this debate again.


Exactly. I love Sunday Bloody Sunday, but I really don't think any of their new material is up to scratch :shrug: And I can't put my finger on it, but Bono's voice sounds different now (but it may just be me, idk).

Again, exactly. In twenty years, when Coldplay has as much experience as U2, then it will be a fair discussion :)

[JackZ]

Gesse man, Briggins didn't even start this thread with a Coldplay insult, just a simple sentence about how this was their time to shine or whatever. Why is everybody getting so defensive about this!?

[the_gloaming09]

Gesse man, Briggins didn't even start this thread with a Coldplay insult, just a simple sentence about how this was their time to shine or whatever. Why is everybody getting so defensive about this!?

:lol:

[chuck kottke]

Why, oh why, does it always come to this! :laugh3: Comparing Apples and Oranges again!! One has a daughter named Apple, the other had an album called Lemon (citrus family), so that fits.. :P Hey, relax, I know, it's only rock and roll, but we like it, we like it, yes we do!!:cool:

[JackZ]

But there was no comparison in the first place, just an example of a band's highlight moment.

[Reilly]

:lol:

it's alright if you miss him... he was a good guy afterall right? :P

He wasn't just a good guy he was a really good guy.

Why do my posts always get buried? :|

Anyways, I actually laughed at your joke Reilly. :P

This made my day. Tell Mike it was funny.

Gesse man, Briggins didn't even start this thread with a Coldplay insult, just a simple sentence about how this was their time to shine or whatever. Why is everybody getting so defensive about this!?

WERE not getting defensive YOU ARE so stop getting defensive IT ISNT US OK!?!?!

[Hartroc]

...the other had a SONG called Lemon (citrus family)...

Fixed. :P And a wonderful song it is, too.

[Reilly]

Oh also, Chuck Kottke's definitely right. Don't question him.

[JackZ]

Yes, sir. Sorry, sir. Won't let it happen again!

[chuck kottke]

Lemon U2 - YouTube Error #42
I've only now actually listened to it - pretty cool. :cool:
Question me all ya want, I likes it!:P
(some have said the album was a lemon, but I think it's pretty good actually!)

[the_gloaming09]

He wasn't just a good guy he was a really good guy.



This made my day. Tell Mike it was funny.



WERE not getting defensive YOU ARE so stop getting defensive IT ISNT US OK!?!?!

haha... a really good guy indeed

I'm sure that he would've appreciated your humor there

Lemon U2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MBHO2oEfM)
I've only now actually listened to it - pretty cool. :cool:
Question me all ya want, I likes it!:P

it's a good song

[chuck kottke]

it's a good song[/QUOTE]
And quite refreshing too! After listening to all the really big hits U2 has out there, sometimes it's nice to hear what their experimental songs are like.
Coldplay were influenced by A-ha, so from that era, I seem to detect a little bit of A-ha in this song.

[Juanma]

that song :lol:

[macky]

I dont have time for this. We should let tweens have these kind of debates like Gaga vs Katy Perry or Beyonce vs Rihanna
We all are unique and have different tastes, just because you don't like a band or singer doesn't mean they are bad.
Some people like orange juice, some prefer apple juice
:P

[Jack Bauer]

that song :lol:

It'll make you cry if you know the story behind it.

[Skin&Bones]

I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE POSTED THIS!!!

I have been comparing them for a while now (not just their sound, but the way they've been progressing as bands).

U2 released 3 albums before they hired Brian Eno to work with them on The Unforgettable Fire. Coldplay also released 3 albums before they hired Eno to work with them on VLVODAAHF. The Unforgettable Fire got U2 far on the charts with Pride (In The Name of Love), and VLVODAAHF got Coldplay far on the charts with Viva La Vida.

I definitely see similarities, and I hope those predictions are right!! Eno really made U2 bloom, and he did the same with Coldplay on VLVODAAHF.

Coldplay is doing far better than U2 was in their first 4 albums (look at certifications. VLVODAAHF is already diamond in Mexico... but the internet has changed a lot) , hopefully MX is Coldplay's Joshua Tree (Arguably U2's best album aside from Achtung Baby). This would mean that Coldplay could definitely out-win U2 in the best band of the world earlier than expected-- that's if LP5 is good.

Mind you, U2 is still making music... while they're on holiday, Coldplay takes the limelight :D

[MrMagpie]

Yeah I think it's funny when people think I made the thread to try and state that one band is better than the other.


Just pointing out that this is a pretty important release, if they can push themselves to that next level or if they will remain stagnant.

[howyousawtheworld]

Lemon U2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MBHO2oEfM) Error #42
I've only now actually listened to it - pretty cool. :cool:
Question me all ya want, I likes it!:P
(some have said the album was a lemon, but I think it's pretty good actually!)

Lemon along with The Unforgettable Fire is my favourite song by U2.

About Bono's voice it isn't what it was and wasn't great on NLOTH or when 360 started. That said his voice had improved over that tour. Take the Rose Bowl dvd performance compared with Glasto this year and his voice was so much better at Glastonbury. In fact it was brilliant.

[Samuel_94]

I really think U2 are overrated! Sorry :(

[Saketblitz]

“The Joshua Tree" is my favorite record of all time. If “Mylo Xyloto" turns out to be that good, then.. err.. umm.. I'll have a new favorite album! 

[Reilly]

The Unforgettable Fire got U2 far on the charts with Pride (In The Name of Love), and VLVODAAHF got Coldplay far on the charts with Viva La Vida.

:thinking:

Coldplay is doing far better than U2 was in their first 4 albums (look at certifications. VLVODAAHF is already diamond in Mexico... but the internet has changed a lot) , hopefully MX is Coldplay's Joshua Tree (Arguably U2's best album aside from Achtung Baby). This would mean that Coldplay could definitely out-win U2 in the best band of the world earlier than expected-- that's if LP5 is good.

:thinking:

[Bloody]

I love both bands. But it's obvious that Coldplay is not in his Joshua Tree moment. Yeah, it's their 5th album but their careers have developed in a very different way. U2 growed a lot on every new album in the 80's. I think their 3 first albums (Boy, October and War) are not specially brilliant (though War includes master piece Sunday Bloody Sunday) and they began to be brilliant since their 4th album, The Unforgettable Fire (although it's an irregular album), and with the Joshua Tree they finally reach perfection (and with their 6th album they reinvented amazingly with Achtung Baby).

But Coldplay has a more "static" career. I think their 4 albums are very similar in quality. Maybe AROBTTH has the brightest highlights but as a whole it is no master piece. and though Coldplay are as lovely as U2 I think they have a lack of a truly classic album as U2's Joshua and Achtung. And I'm afraid MX is not going to be thair truly classic album.

Anyway, both bands are far away from the best band ever. The Beatles? Nop. Radiohead? Nop.

Correct answer: http://youtu.be/P1BjndTZvQY

[MrMagpie]

:thinking:



:thinking:

Dude, don't you understand the value of already being diamond in Mexico?

[Reilly]

...Yes Briggs but the internet HAS changed a lot. :wtf:

I was just overwhelmed by the tedious link that they both had 4th albums that 'got far' on the chart, taking into consideration all of their previous albums also 'got far' on the chart. You could also compare this to Madonna as Coldplay's "Erotica" moment. :blank:

[lukaz42]

I like both tbf, I think bono has a better/more powerful voice than chris especially when he was younger, although chris does have a knack of sounding exceptional with what he has at his disposal. U2 also has The Edge a fantastic guitarist who I think overall has shown better qualities than johnny..... so far you never know wht mx has in store ;) but i do think chris writes better songs, because ovrall coldplay have 4 albums how many bad songs could you name? not many but u2 has some fantastic stuff but alot of average too. No doubt though both are top artists and on paper over sales and stuff u2 are winning for now but like people have being saying itll be a fair comparable test when coldplay match them for years :P

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

Hey now, Jonny Buckland is just as good as The Edge (better, in my humble opinion). He just doesn't like to show off--he could totally shred if he wanted to, but he doesn't like to draw attention to himself. :nod: Shy personality, and all.

[Skin&Bones]

U2 writes great music, but they're aren't as talented as musicians. I read the book 'U2 By U2', and during their first ten years they couldn't help but pointing out how terrible of musicians they were; Adam Clayton --the bassist-- couldn't keep time with the drums (at one point they actually thought about kicking him out), Larry kept on doing simple drum beats and Bono was yelling more than singing. The Edge and The Edge's brother (who was later sacked from the band) were the only talented musicians. Over time, they all improved, and therefore were able to play more complicated music.

Chris Martin is an incredibly exceptional piano player, and he is a decent guitar player to add to that. His voice is below standard, but the music he writes (whereas it might not be as catchy) is very structured.

Coldplay's best band member is definitely Will Champion. He taught himself to play the drums so he could be in Coldplay. He also plays basically every instrument known to man. His timing is impeccable and his back-up vocals are incredibly sublime and harmonious.

The Edge beats Jonny. Jonny's great, but not only is the Edge a legend, his guitar work over the past 30-or-so years has never faltered. Jonny is great with catchy 'In My Place' riffs.

As for the bassists, Guy Berryman wins all-out over Adam Clayton. Hands down.

[Skin&Bones]

(I like Coldplay better because I think their music is better, but I can't help but point out how great U2 is.)

[footyfan10]

It is definitely a similar moment if only because viva la vida really did catapult them to the front of everyone's minds. Basically there's a lot riding on the success of the album - speaking critically and commercially. It really doesn't matter what anyone on this site thinks. We're already coldplay fans. What matters is if they get a lot more people to like them. I don't mean being mainstream. Cause despite what some people on this thread think...they already are that.

[chuck kottke]

It is definitely a similar moment if only because viva la vida really did catapult them to the front of everyone's minds. Basically there's a lot riding on the success of the album - speaking critically and commercially. It really doesn't matter what anyone on this site thinks. We're already coldplay fans. What matters is if they get a lot more people to like them. I don't mean being mainstream. Cause despite what some people on this thread think...they already are that.
:rolleyes: Whaddaya mean it really doesn't matter what anyone on this site thinks??:stunned: You just don't know, do you?!?!:laugh3: If not mainstream, then feeder stream?

[Reilly]

Wow now we're officially writing crap.

I'm not going to bother quoting.

Why exactly do people keep saying Jonny's a great guitarist?! There's no evidence of it, there's no reason given, and having a 'shy personality' isn't a reason, that's just hilarious. I laughed.

And since when has the Edge ever been considered a good guitarist?! Hahaha, he makes great use of very low guitar capabilities, this about sums it up:

Bill Bailey U2 - YouTube

Clearly nobody debating musical ability here has touched a guitar before.

[Malcolm-Edge]

On Bono's voice, because they did North American stadiums his voice suffered greatly traveling through the South and Mid-West. Bono, as he found out in 1997 when they launched Popmart in Las Vegas, is allergic to a desert weed in the air and his voice suffered greatly.

On top of which years of smoking caught up to him and in 2000 had a cancer scare and had his vocal chords operated on. Bono's voice is better in the European climate for obvious reasons, more moisture in the air, however the second he hits a dry area it goes to shit.

Coldplay, took the world by storm with Viva La Vida and this is their last sure shot at the grand slam tour. They need to put on a show, since we all know they arent into Pearl Jam/Springsteen style simplistic shows. They are a lot like U2 in how they perform live and a comparison that is often overlooked greatly.

[MrMagpie]

I like both tbf, I think bono has a better/more powerful voice than chris especially when he was younger, although chris does have a knack of sounding exceptional with what he has at his disposal. U2 also has The Edge a fantastic guitarist who I think overall has shown better qualities than johnny..... so far you never know wht mx has in store ;) but i do think chris writes better songs, because ovrall coldplay have 4 albums how many bad songs could you name? not many but u2 has some fantastic stuff but alot of average too. No doubt though both are top artists and on paper over sales and stuff u2 are winning for now but like people have being saying itll be a fair comparable test when coldplay match them for years :P

Boring Coldplay songs:

High Speed
Sparks
We Never Change
A Whisper
What If
Square One
Speed of Sound
Twisted Logic
Life In Technicolour
Lost!
42
Lover In Japan/Reign of Love

[Reilly]

Bono's voice is better in the European climate for obvious reasons, more moisture in the air, however the second he hits a dry area it goes to shit.

Yes that's obvious of course.

Is this actually happening right now?

[howyousawtheworld]

Wow now we're officially writing crap.

I'm not going to bother quoting.

Why exactly do people keep saying Jonny's a great guitarist?! There's no evidence of it, there's no reason given, and having a 'shy personality' isn't a reason, that's just hilarious. I laughed.

And since when has the Edge ever been considered a good guitarist?! Hahaha, he makes great use of very low guitar capabilities, this about sums it up:

Bill Bailey U2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Go2DK9VtQ)

Clearly nobody debating musical ability here has touched a guitar before.

Citing a relatively unfunny comedian ain't making a point. Anyone who needs instruments on stage to make themselves "funny" is just desperate. And Bill Bailey is a bit desperate....and immensely overrated. Also saw a skit of him doing a parody of Katie Melua's 9 million bicycles and I was like "is this actually an attempt to being funny?" About as good a stand up comedian as you think the Edge is a guitarist. The idea of a children's ward burning to the ground is funnier than Bill Bailey.


U2 writes great music, but they're aren't as talented as musicians. I read the book 'U2 By U2', and during their first ten years they couldn't help but pointing out how terrible of musicians they were; Adam Clayton --the bassist-- couldn't keep time with the drums (at one point they actually thought about kicking him out), Larry kept on doing simple drum beats and Bono was yelling more than singing. The Edge and The Edge's brother (who was later sacked from the band) were the only talented musicians. Over time, they all improved, and therefore were able to play more complicated music.

Chris Martin is an incredibly exceptional piano player, and he is a decent guitar player to add to that. His voice is below standard, but the music he writes (whereas it might not be as catchy) is very structured.

Coldplay's best band member is definitely Will Champion. He taught himself to play the drums so he could be in Coldplay. He also plays basically every instrument known to man. His timing is impeccable and his back-up vocals are incredibly sublime and harmonious.

The Edge beats Jonny. Jonny's great, but not only is the Edge a legend, his guitar work over the past 30-or-so years has never faltered. Jonny is great with catchy 'In My Place' riffs.

As for the bassists, Guy Berryman wins all-out over Adam Clayton. Hands down.

For someone who was a "shit" bassist for 10 years then New Year's Day and Gloria ain't a half bad effort from Mr Clayton. Still New Year's Day is his finest bass line and better than anything Guy Berryman has done.

[Reilly]

Do you want me to bother typing out pretty much exactly what Bailey said? Because I originally couldn't be arsed- it's very simple if you aren't retarded, remember that youtube video you just watched, y'know the part where he outlined how the Edge relies on guitar effects, yeah that's the point, I don't care what you think of Bill Bailey, and yes citing a relatively unfunny comedian can be making a point.

Why does everything have to be spelled out to you?

[howyousawtheworld]

Do you want me to bother typing out pretty much exactly what Bailey said? Because I originally couldn't be arsed- it's very simple if you aren't retarded, remember that youtube video you just watched, y'know the part where he outlined how the Edge relies on guitar effects, yeah that's the point, I don't care what you think of Bill Bailey, and yes citing a relatively unfunny comedian can be making a point.

Why does everything have to be spelled out to you?

It ain't funny and he ain't making a valid point. Airhead comedy. Deal with it.

[Reilly]

Oh seeing the quote there reminded me- Chris Martin is NOT an incredibly exceptional piano player, where the hell are people getting this from? Coldplay songs were the first ones I learned on piano along with Beatles, because they were so fucking easy and even a person whos never touched a piano could learn those songs within a few days or 1 week maximum (Yes literally).

[Reilly]

It ain't funny and he ain't making a valid point. Deal with it.

Hahaha what an ass you are. The point was about Edge being a good guitarist, Baileys making a valid point and clearly illustrating exactly what Edge does with a guitar, I do respect that considering he has such crappy natural talent he is very creative and has come up with with many interesting riffs and guitar hooks, but anyone who plays guitar quickly realises Edge couldn't teach basic guitar to school children.

Again, I don't care if you think it's funny (Mainly because your sense of humour is cringeworthy anyway) but he is making a valid point, which you could've debated or given a reason as to why hes wrong instead of just pointlessly de-railing the debate, but of course if you are a butthurt fanboy its hard to 'deal with it'.

[howyousawtheworld]

Hahaha what an ass you are. The point was about Edge being a good guitarist, Baileys making a valid point and clearly illustrating exactly what Edge does with a guitar, I do respect that considering he has such crappy natural talent he is very creative and has come up with with many interesting riffs and guitar hooks, but anyone who plays guitar quickly realises Edge couldn't teach basic guitar to school children.

Again, I don't care if you think it's funny (Mainly because your sense of humour is cringeworthy anyway) but he is making a valid point, which you could've debated or given a reason as to why hes wrong instead of just pointlessly de-railing the debate, but of course if you are a butthurt fanboy its hard to 'deal with it'.

Oooh. Touched a nerve.


If you're idea of class comedy is Bill Bailey then god help you lonely troll boy. Run along now!

[TyM218]

arguing coldplay vs u2 on a coldplay forum... great

[admnistramation]

^You're just mad because you don't want to accept the fact that U2 are more accomplished.

[Reilly]

Oooh. Touched a nerve.


If you're idea of class comedy is Bill Bailey then god help you lonely troll boy. Run along now!

I'm the troll? After what you've just done here?

BACK ON TOPIC- to explain it to you yet again- The Edge almost solely has relied on guitar effects to make him sound like an accomplished guitarist, which is very clever, but he is shit, without such effects he would be restricted to playing very basic stuff.

That's the point I've made twice, the point Bailey made in that video, and I don't know why the fuck you are actually responding because you've made no points whatsoever apart from your irrelevant view on Bill Bailey (And AGAIN- I know I posted a video of Bailey but that was directly related to the discussion and the point he clearly made in his video- you'd have to be a fucking retard not to realise the point he was making- oh wait, nevermind).

[howyousawtheworld]

I'm the troll? After what you've just done here?

BACK ON TOPIC- to explain it to you yet again- The Edge almost solely has relied on guitar effects to make him sound like an accomplished guitarist, which is very clever, but he is shit, without such effects he would be restricted to playing very basic stuff.

That's the point I've made twice, the point Bailey made in that video, and I don't know why the fuck you are actually responding because you've made no points whatsoever apart from your irrelevant view on Bill Bailey (And AGAIN- I know I posted a video of Bailey but that was directly related to the discussion and the point he clearly made in his video- you'd have to be a fucking retard not to realise the point he was making- oh wait, nevermind).

YAWN. You've called me a retard twice (fucking retard - getting nasty). Got anything interesting to say? Or are you just going to post yet more irrelevence? Given your history on this site I suggest the latter.
Anyway I'm off to bed. You should go as well.

Laters dude.

[MrMagpie]

Haha I find it hard to declare members of rock bands good musicians in terms of oh they can play the piano or guitar better than person x. I mean if you boil it down, my sister is a better piano player than Chris Martin. She goes to university and music is her undergrad. Or somebody like Santana or some other guitar virtuoso is a better guitar player than the Edge for example. But really that doesn't decide who I like better or why I enjoy them.

[Crests]

Some people like orange juice, some prefer apple juice

I hate both. :|

You could also compare this to Madonna as Coldplay's "Erotica" moment.

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[/excellent contribution to thread]

[Reilly]

YAWN. You've called me a retard twice (fucking retard - getting nasty). Got anything interesting to say? Or are you just going to post yet more irrelevence? Given your history on this site I suggest the latter.
Anyway I'm off to bed. You should go as well.

Laters dude.

Of course all my posts would seem irrelevant to you if you only focus on buzz words like 'retard', I made a point and you took it upon yourself to start chatting a load of shit as usual to drag the discussion all over the place.

What is actually irrelevant is your contribution, in which we've learned- you don't like Bill Bailey, when everyones talking about U2 or Coldplays musical ability. This discussion had nothing to do with Bailey just the point that he made (And oddly you said he didn't make a point when clearly he did have an argument beyond the humour you find so shit) about Edge, that's what the discussion was about, so yes, get some sleep because it sounds like you need some, and come back on tomorrow, read this, and cop out as usual and don't reply.

[the_gloaming09]

Boring Coldplay songs:

High Speed
Sparks
We Never Change
A Whisper
What If
Square One
Speed of Sound
Twisted Logic
Life In Technicolour
Lost!
42
Lover In Japan/Reign of Love
Some of these are my favorite coldplay songs

[MrMagpie]

Okay mr fanboy.

[an angel]

I hate both. :|

Same same same :|

[Reilly]

Haha I find it hard to declare members of rock bands good musicians in terms of oh they can play the piano or guitar better than person x. I mean if you boil it down, my sister is a better piano player than Chris Martin. She goes to university and music is her undergrad. Or somebody like Santana or some other guitar virtuoso is a better guitar player than the Edge for example. But really that doesn't decide who I like better or why I enjoy them.

I agree completely, so I don't understand why people argue about the musical ability of artists like Coldplay or U2 when they have been popular for being creative, their musical ability means fuck all. The riff to In My Place or chords for The Scientist are about as basic as musical ability can get, it's the final product of everything around it that counts.

Coldplay's always been a facade, there has never been any true substance within the music they create, it's always been designed to vaguely appeal to the masses in a very clever and cunning subtle way, but it's actually just shit. The Scientist is a prime example, that song is worth nothing.

But hey back on topic, people- don't argue that Coldplay OR U2 are brilliant musicians when they simply aren't, it doesn't even matter anyway.

[Reilly]

Also, I notice all people have a preference towards orange or apple juice, am I the only one who can be in the mood for either?

[the_gloaming09]

Okay mr fanboy.

You know it ;)



WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH-TERFALL!

[TheSkittz]

Boring Coldplay songs:

High Speed
Sparks
We Never Change
A Whisper
What If
Square One
Speed of Sound
Twisted Logic
Life In Technicolour
Lost!
42
Lover In Japan/Reign of Love

Well that depends. The songs you listed really make me think you are a coldplay for chris martins voice, and a good beat.

I like coldplay for their musicality. Some of my favorite songs are their instrumentals.

Two of my favorites are Life in Technicolour and Famous Old Painters. That to me is music and the true test of a band. Anyone can replay the same 2 measure melody and sing over it. Thats all music is today, what sets a band apart is how they craft their music and their albums. Life in Technicolor was the best part of Viva IMO.

I agree completely, so I don't understand why people argue about the musical ability of artists like Coldplay or U2 when they have been popular for being creative, their musical ability means fuck all. The riff to In My Place or chords for The Scientist are about as basic as musical ability can get, it's the final product of everything around it that counts.

Coldplay's always been a facade, there has never been any true substance within the music they create, it's always been designed to vaguely appeal to the masses in a very clever and cunning subtle way, but it's actually just shit. The Scientist is a prime example, that song is worth nothing.

But hey back on topic, people- don't argue that Coldplay OR U2 are brilliant musicians when they simply aren't, it doesn't even matter anyway.

You strike me as a loser hipster. Anything mainstream you do not like. I may be wrong but I sense that you are.
I revert to my previous statement. Listen to famous old painters and then say they arnt good musicians. That is music at its core. A beautiful melody.
and yes you are a troll

YOUR ON A COLDPLAY FANSITE SAYING COLDPLAY SUCKS.

If that isnt trolling I dunno what is..

[the_gloaming09]

I agree completely, so I don't understand why people argue about the musical ability of artists like Coldplay or U2 when they have been popular for being creative, their musical ability means fuck all. The riff to In My Place or chords for The Scientist are about as basic as musical ability can get, it's the final product of everything around it that counts.

Coldplay's always been a facade, there has never been any true substance within the music they create, it's always been designed to vaguely appeal to the masses in a very clever and cunning subtle way, but it's actually just shit. The Scientist is a prime example, that song is worth nothing.

But hey back on topic, people- don't argue that Coldplay OR U2 are brilliant musicians when they simply aren't, it doesn't even matter anyway.

It is true. If music was based off talent and how good someone was at an instrument then none of the popular artists over the last few years would be popular.


I do think that Coldplay does have relatively simple songs, but I find their simple arrangements work so well. And the overall sound too (of course I'm mainly talking about their first two albums)

[Crests]

wah wah wah wahnderful :dazzled:

[Hartroc]

I love both bands. But it's obvious that Coldplay is not in his Joshua Tree moment. Yeah, it's their 5th album but their careers have developed in a very different way. U2 growed a lot on every new album in the 80's. I think their 3 first albums (Boy, October and War) are not specially brilliant (though War includes master piece Sunday Bloody Sunday) and they began to be brilliant since their 4th album, The Unforgettable Fire (although it's an irregular album), and with the Joshua Tree they finally reach perfection (and with their 6th album they reinvented amazingly with Achtung Baby).

But Coldplay has a more "static" career. I think their 4 albums are very similar in quality. Maybe AROBTTH has the brightest highlights but as a whole it is no master piece. and though Coldplay are as lovely as U2 I think they have a lack of a truly classic album as U2's Joshua and Achtung. And I'm afraid MX is not going to be thair truly classic album.

Anyway, both bands are far away from the best band ever. The Beatles? Nop. Radiohead? Nop.

Correct answer: http://youtu.be/P1BjndTZvQY

No frickin' way, dude.

They're great, but The National has absolutely nothing that could even BEGIN to rival Sgt. Pepper's, Revolover, OK Computer or Kid A. Nor Abbey Road, The Bends, In Rainbows, the White Album or Amnesiac, come to think of it...

[gus]

its silly trying to compare two artists from different eras the two bands are fine is like comparing maradona with pele in football. coldplay dont need to do a joshua three or anything compared to that. they have their own way. personally i dont think in u2 when im listening to coldplay.
if you think u2 is greater go out and post in u2 forums this is a coldplay site i dont know what are you doing here. we dont need to discuss why we like coldplay more than u2.

[Hartroc]

if you think u2 is greater go out and post in u2 forums this is a coldplay site i dont know what are you doing here. we dont need to discuss why we like coldplay more than u2.

Because it is possible for people to like both bands, AND, believe it or not, to share their opinion on why one is better? This is the internet bud, expect people to disagree with you. :lol:

I like Radiohead better than Coldplay (I still love Coldplay), but I still enjoy coming to this forum and chatting. :shrug:

[Crests]

^i liek u

[Reilly]

It is true. If music was based off talent and how good someone was at an instrument then none of the popular artists over the last few years would be popular.

Of course, even the Beatles (Sorry Mike, so sorry) were not amazing musicians, I'm really good at guitar and decent at piano, learning Beatles songs has always been more fun instead of challenging.

Well that depends. The songs you listed really make me think you are a coldplay for chris martins voice, and a good beat.

I like coldplay for their musicality. Some of my favorite songs are their instrumentals.

Two of my favorites are Life in Technicolour and Famous Old Painters. That to me is music and the true test of a band. Anyone can replay the same 2 measure melody and sing over it. Thats all music is today, what sets a band apart is how they craft their music and their albums. Life in Technicolor was the best part of Viva IMO.



You strike me as a loser hipster. Anything mainstream you do not like. I may be wrong but I sense that you are.
I revert to my previous statement. Listen to famous old painters and then say they arnt good musicians. That is music at its core. A beautiful melody.
and yes you are a troll

YOUR ON A COLDPLAY FANSITE SAYING COLDPLAY SUCKS.

If that isnt trolling I dunno what is..

What a waste of 3 minutes and 23 seconds that was.

The discussion was about musical ability, not musical creativity. You need to pay more attention.

As for me being a loser hipster, I appreciate good song writing regardless of where it comes from, from Martin Solveig's "Hello" to The Saturdays "Up", I'm not afraid of liking mainstream music. But I despise music (Especially from bands) who want to adhere to what sounds right on the radio, my main point was that the songs Coldplay write are shit, but they've been presented in a way that makes them seem like a deep, meaningful, thought provoking band, they aren't.

[Hartroc]

^i liek u

:awesome:

[the_gloaming09]

You strike me as a loser hipster. Anything mainstream you do not like. I may be wrong but I sense that you are.
I revert to my previous statement. Listen to famous old painters and then say they arnt good musicians. That is music at its core. A beautiful melody.
and yes you are a troll

YOUR ON A COLDPLAY FANSITE SAYING COLDPLAY SUCKS.

If that isnt trolling I dunno what is..

I disagree with you completely. Firstly I've known Briggins for a while and he's not a hipster and likes a whole bunch of mainstream alternative bands like U2, Radiohead, Coldplay, and Arcade Fire.


Also maybe the arrangements of songs are good, but in general Coldplay as well as so many other bands aren't really good musicians when you compare them to jazz artists or unknown musician virtuosos. These people are super talented and will never get to be popular because the music they play is way too complex.


And saying coldplay sucks on a coldplay fansite is not being a troll... you don't have to love everything a band releases to be a fan. Plus there are many other sections to the forum

[the_gloaming09]

Of course, even the Beatles (Sorry Mike, so sorry) were not amazing musicians, I'm really good at guitar and decent at piano, learning Beatles songs has always been more fun instead of challenging.


I will agree with you almost fully. were they all amazing musicians? no. Paul McCartney I would say was amazing because he was a multi-instrumentalist and composer and was amazing at bass playing. He was the only extremely talented member of the band. The other members, don't get me wrong I love the Beatles more than so many other bands, but they were pretty mediocre. They were just able to write really catchy, popular and interesting songs.

[Hartroc]

And saying coldplay sucks on a coldplay fansite is not being a troll...

I agree. The art of trolling is FAR more subtle than that. :laugh3:

[TyM218]

^You're just mad because you don't want to accept the fact that U2 are more accomplished.

U2 has been around since 1976, coldplay has been around since 1998, and U2 isn't that much bigger than coldplay. So in terms of rise to fame & success, coldplay wins.

[Skin&Bones]

Oh seeing the quote there reminded me- Chris Martin is NOT an incredibly exceptional piano player, where the hell are people getting this from? Coldplay songs were the first ones I learned on piano along with Beatles, because they were so fucking easy and even a person whos never touched a piano could learn those songs within a few days or 1 week maximum (Yes literally).

The Hardest Part/Postcards From Far Away (live) - YouTube

Dear Troll, listen to 'Hardest Part', 'Postcards From Far Away', 'Amsterdam', 'Everything's Not Lost', and 'Glass Of Water'. Sure, I can play these on the piano too, doesn't make him any less of an exceptional piano player. He's not Mozart, I'm not calling him Matthew Bellamy either, but don't go to one extreme and say he's not exceptional just to be argumentative and trollish. It's much better than anything U2's lead singer can do. I think you're just caught up with songs like 'Clocks', 'The Scientist' and things like 'Speed of Sound', which sound cool, but aren't very hard.

I'm glad you can figure out Coldplay's stuff on the piano. You must be a real maestro.

[Chloe_Martin]

Anything is better than what bono can do :P

But Chris plays piano exceptionally!!!

[TyM218]

I will agree with you almost fully. were they all amazing musicians? no. Paul McCartney I would say was amazing because he was a multi-instrumentalist and composer and was amazing at bass playing. He was the only extremely talented member of the band. The other members, don't get me wrong I love the Beatles more than so many other bands, but they were pretty mediocre. They were just able to write really catchy, popular and interesting songs.

Um, the reason all 4 of the beatles are talented is because they basically turned an entire genre into pop music. They took the rock and roll they were listening to as kids and took it to another level. Nobody can say that since the beatles existed. They were also way ahead of their time in terms of playing and recording technique. Innovators.

And as for paul being the only truly talented member, that is so false. A lot of the time the others would help write songs. Octopus's garden is one of my favourites, and thats a Ringo tune. And sure, Paul played multiple instruments. So did the other guys... they just didn't get to showcase it on tour. Did you know John recorded all of the tracks on "Come Together" (minus the drums)?

[lafinion]

IMHO, complex does not equals genius. What I like in Coldplay, there are "layers" of music - piano, guitar, bass, drums which play different melodies but interact brilliantly. The Hardest Part as an example. Each part may be very easy but how it all sounds together makes those "spark".

And, as I've read somewhere and really liked this point - soft rock is usually easy to play, but try to compose something like that.

[anniea89]

And saying coldplay sucks on a coldplay fansite is not being a troll... you don't have to love everything a band releases to be a fan. Plus there are many other sections to the forum

Wait a minute. Those first two sentences contradict each other.
It's all well and good to not love or to critique output from the band. That still makes you a fan. But saying a statement like 'coldplay sucks' on a fansite indicates that you have a completely negative view of the band and that you are a non-fan. What you said doesn't make any sense.

[WS]

Correct me if I'm wrong,but I haven't read nothing of "Coldplay sucks"
He said that Coldplay and U2 aren't brilliant musicians and that's right.Coldplays songs aren't musical masterpieces,they are catchy and easy to listen but nothing more.The only thing I disagree,is calling The Scientist shit but everyone have diferent opinions xD
For me,they have talent but no musically speaking.
I dont mind it anyway because I like most of their songs and thats the only important thing for me

[TheSkittz]

I disagree with you completely. Firstly I've known Briggins for a while and he's not a hipster and likes a whole bunch of mainstream alternative bands like U2, Radiohead, Coldplay, and Arcade Fire.


Also maybe the arrangements of songs are good, but in general Coldplay as well as so many other bands aren't really good musicians when you compare them to jazz artists or unknown musician virtuosos. These people are super talented and will never get to be popular because the music they play is way too complex.


And saying coldplay sucks on a coldplay fansite is not being a troll... you don't have to love everything a band releases to be a fan. Plus there are many other sections to the forum

I was quoting Rielly or whatever his name is but whatever.

[the_gloaming09]

Um, the reason all 4 of the beatles are talented is because they basically turned an entire genre into pop music. They took the rock and roll they were listening to as kids and took it to another level. Nobody can say that since the beatles existed. They were also way ahead of their time in terms of playing and recording technique. Innovators.

And as for paul being the only truly talented member, that is so false. A lot of the time the others would help write songs. Octopus's garden is one of my favourites, and thats a Ringo tune. And sure, Paul played multiple instruments. So did the other guys... they just didn't get to showcase it on tour. Did you know John recorded all of the tracks on "Come Together" (minus the drums)?

You are confusing songwriting capabilities with musical playing capabilities. Both are completely different. I'm not discrediting The Beatles at all, because they have been my overall favorite band ever. Of course they were innovators, and helped initiate and shape our modern looking of pop music. But I disagree that no one has been able to take music to another level since The Beatles. If that was the case we'd still be listening to 60's music.


Like I said you're confusing musical talent for songwriting talent. All of The Beatles were talented in songwriting and in the context of the band they worked well. I'm saying if you took any of the members out of their band environment and only listened to them play they're not hugely musically talented. I mean they are talented, but they're not like virtuosos or anything. Like I said McCartney is by far the only extremely talented member of the band. Whether it be his extremely melodic basslines, guitar playing, playing multiple instruments, arrangement/composition of orchestral work or whatever. I'm just saying if you compared them or any really popular artist to a really talented musician like any jazz artist it'd be a joke.

What I'm trying to get at is that you don't have to be overly talented in playing an instrument to make a lot of money and be popular. Even so I'm not trying to call The Beatles or any other band bad or anything.


Also John didn't record all the tracks on Come Together, it was the whole band. In fact almost all of his songs, including solo work, (except for maybe acoustic songs), was recorded with a band. Paul on the other hand released full solo albums like McCartney, Ram, McCartney II, Chaos and Creation in the Backyard, Electronic Arguments in which he played nearly if not all instruments

[the_gloaming09]

Wait a minute. Those first two sentences contradict each other.
It's all well and good to not love or to critique output from the band. That still makes you a fan. But saying a statement like 'coldplay sucks' on a fansite indicates that you have a completely negative view of the band and that you are a non-fan. What you said doesn't make any sense.

I don't see how the contradict themselves at all.

You don't have to love everything about a band. And saying that they "suck" doesn't mean that you are not a fan of the band either. Personally I'm not really a fan of their last few releases and I can say that the band sucks with songs like Teardrop and Violet Hill. That doesn't mean that I'm not a fan of the band, being that I love their first two albums as well as a bunch of other songs scattered since then, and have seen them live more than any other artist.

And my second sentance was saying that there are much other places on this forum to talk (WoM, Lounge, News) besides it only being about Coldplay.


I was quoting Rielly or whatever his name is but whatever.

alright, just how you had it set up it made it seem as though you were splitting up a quote by briggins. But even so I have to agree with what Reilly has been saying thus far about musical talent.

[footyfan10]

Fact - coldplaying will never be a good place to have a debate about music because enough people on here like only mainstream bands AND they often confuse what it is to be a mainstream band. People can be a bit immature on this site. Which is fine. Everyone has been at one point or another. It just means that an intelligent debate about music cannot take place here. Too many people confuse having an opinion with knowing something.

[Megalomania]

Hey now, Jonny Buckland is just as good as The Edge (better, in my humble opinion). He just doesn't like to show off--he could totally shred if he wanted to, but he doesn't like to draw attention to himself. :nod: Shy personality, and all.

I actually get the feeling that he doesn't "shred" because he can't actually shred.

Hence the boring Coldplay guitar solos.




Anyway, I don't find the members of Coldplay or U2 to be very talented, but I agree that they work well together and make music that many people like.

[gus]

simple minds was better than u2 in the 80's. u2 coppied some musical arrengments and some instrumental thinks that simple minds introduce to us u2 is a good band but for me isnt that good better say this ''this is your seargent pepper coldplay dont mess it up''

[foxeh]

Coldplay dont need to shred guitars they have their own style of Music plus they are no actual Rockband.

[TheSkittz]

Fact - coldplaying will never be a good place to have a debate about music because enough people on here like only mainstream bands AND they often confuse what it is to be a mainstream band. People can be a bit immature on this site. Which is fine. Everyone has been at one point or another. It just means that an intelligent debate about music cannot take place here. Too many people confuse having an opinion with knowing something.

I wouldnt say that we (especially me) like only mainstream bands. Coldplay and the Killers I like. I do not listen to the radio or youtube views. I listen to what I like. Whether it is mainstream or not. I have thrown the term "mainstream" out the window because it has become a stupid term. Its somehow bad to like mainstream music (in alot of peoples views). I listen to what sounds good. Whether it be Coldplay or the Fossil Collective. I just dont think the word mainstream should be used anymore. Every band strives to be popular, because that is the goal. You get more fans, and you make music that more people listen to. But once a band achieves that, they are "sell outs" or they get VEVO accounts. Im sorry but somehow being good at what you do makes you bad. Its a catch 22. How can a band be succesful today then?
I just say we forget mainstream and just listen to what we like.

[foxeh]

Im also no Mainstream Fan.
Coldplay is not really Mainstream for me though but thats different for everyone.
I listen to Queen, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin etc. i really love such bands who dont try to fit in the typical "Bandimage".
Mainstream is just a poor way to show Music without own Ideas, thats where Coldplay doesnt fit... sure they use Samples of others sometimes but hey.. who doesnt these days.
But the Rest of Coldplay' Music is absoluty Brilliant in their own Style.

[Zeya]

^lol those bands you mentioned are all mainstream bands

[foxeh]

^those bands you mentioned are all mainstream bands.

LOL.
:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

If you say Queen was Mainstream ok...but Pink Floyd?
You even know what Mainstream means?

[strikie]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+mainstream

[the_gloaming09]

Im also no Mainstream Fan.
Coldplay is not really Mainstream for me though but thats different for everyone.
I listen to Queen, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin etc. i really love such bands who dont try to fit in the typical "Bandimage".
Mainstream is just a poor way to show Music without own Ideas, thats where Coldplay doesnt fit... sure they use Samples of others sometimes but hey.. who doesnt these days.
But the Rest of Coldplay' Music is absoluty Brilliant in their own Style.

Queen, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin not fitting the typical band image? :lol: they were artists that made the whole band image... especially Led Zeppelin (look at all the 80's hair metal bands).

I also really disagree with your second statement. Bands like The Beatles were mainstream, but they still showed their ideas as well as other bands like Queen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd too. They may have not been as mainstream as the Top 40 artists, but they still were incredibly popular.

In fact I also disagree with the samples thing too. I could argue that since sampling is so popular today that Coldplay are using it to be popular. To be honest I feel that Coldplay is more about wanting to be popular than anything else. I mean just read that article posted here http://www.coldplaying.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7556
If they weren't trying to be popular I'm sure they wouldn't even have mentioned not being able to compete with artists like Gaga or Timberlake or whoever.

[the_gloaming09]

LOL.
:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

If you say Queen was Mainstream ok...but Pink Floyd?
You even know what Mainstream means?

If you think of the 1970's you think of Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd... so yes... mainstream.

Also Pink Floyd was very mainstream especially when they released DSOTM, which has the record for being on the charts for the longest time ever (like I don't know how many years).

[Zeya]

They are all commercially known and also commercially successful, so yeah they are mainstream bands.

edit: basically what Mike said.

[foxeh]

If you think of the 1970's you think of Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd... so yes... mainstream.

Also Pink Floyd was very mainstream especially when they released DSOTM, which has the record for being on the charts for the longest time ever (like I don't know how many years).

"Dark Side of the Moon" = Mainstream?
What the F*** man.
Mainstream means they compose songs like any other songs (Verse, Chorus, Verse, Chorus for an example)
And "Dark Side of the Moon" was totally different few weird instrumentals deep lyrics etc.
I dont know why you say that was typical Mainstream.

[foxeh]

They are all commercially known and also commercially successful, so yeah they are mainstream bands.

No, they were successful because they made Music like no other Bands before.
I agree some Songs were Mainstream but the most Songs they composed none else ever heard in any form..
like 1 of my all time Favourite "Bohemian Rhapsody".

[the_gloaming09]

"Dark Side of the Moon" = Mainstream?
What the F*** man.
Mainstream means they compose songs like any other songs (Verse, Chorus, Verse, Chorus for an example)
And "Dark Side of the Moon" was totally different few weird instrumentals deep lyrics etc.
I dont know why you say that was typical Mainstream.

No, they were successful because they made Music like no other Bands before.
I agree some Songs were Mainstream but the most Songs they composed none else ever heard in any form..
like 1 of my all time Favourite "Bohemian Rhapsody".

:lol:

Mainstream is anything that is popular. It has nothing to do with how songs are written.

A song like Money by Pink Floyd is very unconventional in terms of it's arrangement for a Pop song. But almost anytime you hear Floyd on the radio that song is played.

Also Bohemian Rhapsody is incredibly mainstream too

[hayachris]

Hey now, Jonny Buckland is just as good as The Edge (better, in my humble opinion). He just doesn't like to show off--he could totally shred if he wanted to, but he doesn't like to draw attention to himself. :nod: Shy personality, and all.

I think Edge is a lot better the Jonny! He plays in another league!

U2's The Edge soundchecks his guitar rig (It Might Get Loud) - YouTube

[Hartroc]

"Dark Side of the Moon" = Mainstream?
What the F*** man.
Mainstream means they compose songs like any other songs (Verse, Chorus, Verse, Chorus for an example)
And "Dark Side of the Moon" was totally different few weird instrumentals deep lyrics etc.
I dont know why you say that was typical Mainstream.

You don't understand the definition of the word mainstream dude.

Mainstream just means popular, it has nothing to do with musical style.

[foxeh]

:lol:

Mainstream is anything that is popular. It has nothing to do with how songs are written.

A song like Money by Pink Floyd is very unconventional in terms of it's arrangement for a Pop song. But almost anytime you hear Floyd on the radio that song is played.

Also Bohemian Rhapsody is incredibly mainstream too

Now im sure you dont know what Mainstream means.
Mainstream has nothing to do with Popularity it has something to do How the song is Composed.
When a Song is a Mainstream Song it has a Verse after that a Chorus after that a Verse and so on, because it flows with the Stream the Music everyone plays.
But "Bohemian Rhapsody" had no Chorus it had no Bridge it was totally different.

[Zeya]

No, they were successful because they made Music like no other Bands before.
I agree some Songs were Mainstream but the most Songs they composed none else ever heard in any form..
like 1 of my all time Favourite "Bohemian Rhapsody".

Yeah but that does not mean they are not commercially successful. They've sold millions of copies worldwide under multinational big record labels so yes they are very successful commercially and also very popular.

Anyway there's no point in arguing as clearly you need to reconstruct your knowledge/understanding on what 'mainstream' is.

[the_gloaming09]

Now im sure you dont know what Mainstream means.
Mainstream has nothing to do with Popularity it has something to do How the song is Composed.
When a Song is a Mainstream Song it has a Verse after that a Chorus after that a Verse and so on, because it flows with the Stream the Music everyone plays.
But "Bohemian Rhapsody" had no Chorus it had no Bridge it was totally different.

You still are not understanding at all. Mainstream deals with how popular a song or band is. It has nothing to do with how a song is written. There are tons of folk songs that use verses and choruses from a bunch of unknown artists... are you going to tell me that that is mainstream?

Bohemian Rhapsody is played on the radio constantly and made Queen a lot of money... hence Mainstream

[foxeh]

Hmm i probably defy my own Mainstream word.
Well im wrong sorry.
But i think you know what i meant.

[Crests]

Some things are mainstream for a reason you know :|

[Crests]

Also, Bohemian Rhapsody is ridiculously mainstream.

[foxeh]

I tell you guys how i defy the word Mainstream.
The Mainstream is what everyone likes to hear and mostly gets played in the Radio.
(Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus)

And if you dont want to flow with the Mainstream you compose Songs none ever heard of in any form.
You dont even put a Chorus in the Song and so on.
Ergo: your not Mainstream.

I know its wrong for you but thats how i defy it.

:thinking:

But the Word in that way you say is just not Logical for me.

[Skin&Bones]

Dude, Every Teardrop has no chorus. Same with 42, Charlie Brown and Princess Of China. That must make Coldplay NOT mainstream!!! :o

[Zeya]

I tell you guys how i defy the word Mainstream.
The Mainstream is what everyone likes to hear and mostly gets played in the Radio.
(Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus)

And if you dont want to flow with the Mainstream you compose Songs none ever heard of in any form.
You dont even put a Chorus in the Song and so on.
Ergo: your not Mainstream.

I know its wrong for you but thats how i defy it.

:thinking:

But the Word in that way you say is just not Logical for me.

It's not about being logical, it is what it is.

Also, Bohemian Rhapsody is ridiculously mainstream.

No Tammi, you are ridiculously mainstream :angry:

[the_gloaming09]

The Mainstream is what everyone likes to hear and mostly gets played in the Radio.




Exactly!


...it doesn't matter how the song is composed... it's how popular it is

[foxeh]

It's not about being logical, it is what it is.

You dont have your own Opinion?
The Mainstream you guys think it is just sound stupid and illogical for me. :confused:

[Crests]

Where are you from?

[Crests]

I do see what you're saying though, that's probably a common characteristic of a mainstream song I would think.

[Zeya]

You dont have your own Opinion?
The Mainstream you guys think it is sounds just stupid and unlocigal for me. :confused:

What sounds stupid and illogical is that you form your own understanding of what mainstream is and assume the whole world suddenly knows about it and accepts it. I'm sorry that it sounds harsh but I just don't get the way you think.

[foxeh]

What sounds stupid and illogical is that you form your own understanding of what mainstream is and assume the whole world suddenly knows about it and accepts it. I'm sorry that it sounds harsh but I just don't get the way you think.

And you just accept the meaning of the Word as you know it.
It's alright then.

[Crests]

well, it's the mainstream way to write songs?

[foxeh]

well, it's the mainstream way to write songs?

Yes kinda.

[Skin&Bones]

Again, I can tell you that Every Teardrop has no chorus and that's doing much better than Violet Hill did!!! (42 doesn't either)

[foxeh]

Again, I can tell you that Every Teardrop has no chorus and that's doing much better than Violet Hill did!!! (42 doesn't either)

These are song i dont see as Mainstream Songs.
Just like "The Escapist" and "Death and all his Friends".
But "Viva la Vida" is a Mainstream song for me.

[the_gloaming09]

of course The Escapist and Death and All His Friends are not mainstream... because they're never played on the radio!

[foxeh]

of course The Escapist and Death and All His Friends are not mainstream... because they're never played on the radio!

Thats where your right with your "Mainstream" and i'm right with my "Mainstream". ;)

[Zeya]

And you just accept the meaning of the Word as you know it.
It's alright then.

Being mainstream IS being popular and familiar. Seeing that all the bands you mentioned ARE incredibly famous and and have sold millions of records, so yes, they ARE mainstream bands (as opposed to what you said before).

You on the other hand, made up a totally new meaning of 'mainstream' and was surprised that other people didn't understand what you were saying.

well, it's the mainstream way to write songs?

That can be said, but that does not determine whether a band is a mainstream band or not.

[the_gloaming09]

Being mainstream IS being popular and familiar. Seeing that all the bands you mentioned ARE incredibly famous and and have sold millions of records, so yes, they ARE mainstream bands (as opposed to what you said before)


Exactly

[foxeh]

Being mainstream IS being popular and familiar. Seeing that all the bands you mentioned ARE incredibly famous and and have sold millions of records, so yes, they ARE mainstream bands (as opposed to what you said before)

That's the Word.
Familiar.
The Songs which are Mainstream sound familiar like the other Songs.
"Bohemian Rhapsody" was not familiar because the sound and the construct of the Song itself was totally different to all the other songs.

[Zeya]

That's the Word.
Familiar.
The Songs which are Mainstream sound familiar like the other Songs.

No, they are familiar because they are popular. Lady Gaga's Bad Romance for example, would not be mainstream if it was only listened by 3 people. But since it was played 10 times per day by nearly all radio stations all over the world, most probably made it to bilboards (did it?) and you can't not know the lyrics even if you try, the song becomes mainstream.

[foxeh]

No, they are familiar because they are popular. Lady Gaga's Bad Romance for example, would not be mainstream if it was only listened by 3 people.

I just stop now.

[Skin&Bones]

Mumford & Sons is mainstream. If you don't believe me, then ask the millions of people that are more familiar with their stuff over Arcade Fire's stuff.

[the_gloaming09]

No, they are familiar because they are popular. Lady Gaga's Bad Romance for example, would not be mainstream if it was only listened by 3 people.

exactly.


it's familiar in the sense of people hearing it on the radio repeatedly.

[Reilly]

The Hardest Part/Postcards From Far Away (live) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHiBn3Ppstk)

Dear Troll, listen to 'Hardest Part', 'Postcards From Far Away', 'Amsterdam', 'Everything's Not Lost', and 'Glass Of Water'. Sure, I can play these on the piano too, doesn't make him any less of an exceptional piano player. He's not Mozart, I'm not calling him Matthew Bellamy either, but don't go to one extreme and say he's not exceptional just to be argumentative and trollish. It's much better than anything U2's lead singer can do. I think you're just caught up with songs like 'Clocks', 'The Scientist' and things like 'Speed of Sound', which sound cool, but aren't very hard.

I'm glad you can figure out Coldplay's stuff on the piano. You must be a real maestro.

Are you mental? Why are you posting another youtube video without even explaining why? I can see you are a total moron, sarcastically calling me a real maestro and also taking the time to mention that you can play these songs too. Right.

I'm not saying he's not exceptional to be argumentative, I'm saying it because it's true, people in this thread have been saying he's on some other level of piano playing when he's not even a GOOD piano player, he's just OK, he is at the level of someone who practices now and then after about 6 months. So you're saying he's an exceptional piano player, right, and then go on to say he's not Matt Bellamy, so what type of piano player is Bellamy? Is he a "super exceptional" piano player? You're a dumbass.

[Crests]

I thought he was saying Bellamy sucks. :|

[Megalomania]

so what type of piano player is Bellamy? Is he a "super exceptional" piano player?


Yes. :dazzled:

[Skin&Bones]

Are you mental? Why are you posting another youtube video without even explaining why? I can see you are a total moron, sarcastically calling me a real maestro and also taking the time to mention that you can play these songs too. Right.

I'm not saying he's not exceptional to be argumentative, I'm saying it because it's true, people in this thread have been saying he's on some other level of piano playing when he's not even a GOOD piano player, he's just OK, he is at the level of someone who practices now and then after about 6 months. So you're saying he's an exceptional piano player, right, and then go on to say he's not Matt Bellamy, so what type of piano player is Bellamy? Is he a "super exceptional" piano player? You're a dumbass.

Yes Bellamy is exceptional, my mature and level-headed friend.

[TyM218]

You are confusing songwriting capabilities with musical playing capabilities. Both are completely different. I'm not discrediting The Beatles at all, because they have been my overall favorite band ever. Of course they were innovators, and helped initiate and shape our modern looking of pop music. But I disagree that no one has been able to take music to another level since The Beatles. If that was the case we'd still be listening to 60's music.


Like I said you're confusing musical talent for songwriting talent. All of The Beatles were talented in songwriting and in the context of the band they worked well. I'm saying if you took any of the members out of their band environment and only listened to them play they're not hugely musically talented. I mean they are talented, but they're not like virtuosos or anything. Like I said McCartney is by far the only extremely talented member of the band. Whether it be his extremely melodic basslines, guitar playing, playing multiple instruments, arrangement/composition of orchestral work or whatever. I'm just saying if you compared them or any really popular artist to a really talented musician like any jazz artist it'd be a joke.

What I'm trying to get at is that you don't have to be overly talented in playing an instrument to make a lot of money and be popular. Even so I'm not trying to call The Beatles or any other band bad or anything.


Also John didn't record all the tracks on Come Together, it was the whole band. In fact almost all of his songs, including solo work, (except for maybe acoustic songs), was recorded with a band. Paul on the other hand released full solo albums like McCartney, Ram, McCartney II, Chaos and Creation in the Backyard, Electronic Arguments in which he played nearly if not all instruments

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about. There are many interviews stating McCartney's frustration with not being able to record anything on come together because John wanted to do it all. At this point in the beatles lifespan, there were barely a band. More or less 4 individuals releasing music under one name. All the McCartney albums you have named are his solo records post-beatles. So ofcourse he played most of the instruments.

As for the string compositions, they were done mostly by George Martin. Do some better research next time.

[howyousawtheworld]

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about. There are many interviews stating McCartney's frustration with not being able to record anything on come together because John wanted to do it all. At this point in the beatles lifespan, there were barely a band. More or less 4 individuals releasing music under one name. All the McCartney albums you have named are his solo records post-beatles. So ofcourse he played most of the instruments.

As for the string compositions, they were done mostly by George Martin. Do some better research next time.

It was piano and vocals that Paul was going to do but John took over on that song, I'm pretty sure. But I do believe that all members took part in that song. I think it's a bit overrated in Beatles' terms though.

[MrMagpie]

simple minds was better than u2 in the 80's. u2 coppied some musical arrengments and some instrumental thinks that simple minds introduce to us u2 is a good band but for me isnt that good better say this ''this is your seargent pepper coldplay dont mess it up''

Oh yeah Simple Minds are pretty awesome, you see them in the news all the time. THey must have been really good for music. Gus you can go shove something sharp up your ass. I said the Joshua Tree as a reason so you can go ahead and make your own thread.

Im also no Mainstream Fan.
Coldplay is not really Mainstream for me though but thats different for everyone.
I listen to Queen, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin etc. i really love such bands who dont try to fit in the typical "Bandimage".
Mainstream is just a poor way to show Music without own Ideas, thats where Coldplay doesnt fit... sure they use Samples of others sometimes but hey.. who doesnt these days.
But the Rest of Coldplay' Music is absoluty Brilliant in their own Style.

From reading your posts you seem to lack the ability to reason. I hear Pink Floyd on the radio all the time. They are mainstream. They are a popular band. That makes them mainstream. Maybe not all their songs are mainstream but the band is. And so is every other band you mentioned.

[the_gloaming09]

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about. There are many interviews stating McCartney's frustration with not being able to record anything on come together because John wanted to do it all. At this point in the beatles lifespan, there were barely a band. More or less 4 individuals releasing music under one name. All the McCartney albums you have named are his solo records post-beatles. So ofcourse he played most of the instruments.

As for the string compositions, they were done mostly by George Martin. Do some better research next time.

Oh yeah clearly I don't know what I'm talking about... I've just only listened to the band and read and watched documentaries about them almost all my life. :rolleyes:

I have books that have the Beatles recording sessions in detail and Come Together had the whole band. Also just listening to the songs you can just tell by the tone and style of the instruments who is playing what. Paul is definitely playing bass because Lennon's bass playing was never that complex. If you've listened to the band long enough you can tell who is playing what and Paul is playing bass and George guitar and Ringo drums.

I don't know where you heard that info from, but I bet McCartney was talking about how he wished there was more input from him on the song, since he was clearly playing instruments on the song.

Also you are wrong because at that time they decided to work together to make a final release which was Abbey Road. They decided to put all issues aside and work together for one last time. Yes in the past they recorded songs individually but not Abbey Road.


I brought up those McCartney solo albums because I was pointing out how he was the most talented member of the band, since you were saying how all the members were extremely talented overall. I was merely pointing out how he was the most talented member of the band and how the other members were mediocre in relation.


Yes a lot of string compositions were done by George Martin, but McCartney had a lot of input and composition within various pieces throughout his career, and I'm talking beyond The Beatles career. By the end of The Beatles he tried to have pretty much all creative control.


Maybe you should do more research next time.

[MrMagpie]

Believe Mike if you don't want to look like a complete idiot.

[chuck kottke]

Hey:rolleyes:, you gotta back a fellow New Yorker!:cool: Lennon was the epitome of creative genius, I mean comeon, he wrote & performed Imagine. It was Lennon and McCartney mostly, but certainly George and Ringo added their own excellent flavors to the mix. The subtleties exist, but I think they're pretty much on the same level of ability and contribution.
Apple Tree
Joshua Tee
Which tree best suits Coldplay?:)

[Skin&Bones]

(George is still my favorite :D)

[chuck kottke]

George was pretty cool, yeah. I think he was one of the principal sources of creative inspiration for the Beatles, brought them Indian music and a whole new palate of sounds and possibilities.
But which tree is coldplay's then? Maybe Christmas tree? Orange tree?

[Skin&Bones]

Honestly... I don't know what you mean by that :\ sorry.

[Crests]

I never understand what he's talking about. :wacky:

[MrMagpie]

thats what makes it awesome. it is like math

[Lore]

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about. There are many interviews stating McCartney's frustration with not being able to record anything on come together because John wanted to do it all. At this point in the beatles lifespan, there were barely a band. More or less 4 individuals releasing music under one name. All the McCartney albums you have named are his solo records post-beatles. So ofcourse he played most of the instruments.

As for the string compositions, they were done mostly by George Martin. Do some better research next time.

Are you really questioning Mike's Beatles knowledge? :lol:

HEY MIKE YOU ARE A RADIOHEAD NOOB I KNOW WAY MORE THAN YOU ABOUT THEM :phu: :P

[Megalomania]

Questioning Mike's Beatles knowledge is like questioning a fish's ability to swim. :|

[Skin&Bones]

^^ I don't really know this Mike dude... but that analogy was perfectly flawless.

[rainplay]

Me neither, I only know a few ppl here.

And to add something to this U2 VS Coldplay battle, I've never been that fond of U2

[MrMagpie]

Me neither, I only know a few ppl here.

And to add something to this U2 VS Coldplay battle, I've never been that fond of U2

Well to add to the U2 vs Coldplay battle this isn't actually a battle. Learn to read.

[RedBalloon]

George was pretty cool, yeah. I think he was one of the principal sources of creative inspiration for the Beatles, brought them Indian music and a whole new palate of sounds and possibilities.
But which tree is coldplay's then? Maybe Christmas tree? Orange tree?

lol. I would think Co. [I saw someone else also call them Co. hehe - it's a nice coincidence.] fits well into Co.co.nut. Tree ?? if nut = crazy = passionate without any way back or less = as if this is always the last album/last thing to do.


This thread reads so funny, the beatles [There would be a new Documentary for George coming soon as well, by the right man Mr. Martin Scorsese] and all...I read somewhere that a reincarnated Beatles [with sons of George and John] might play for 2012 Olympic Game in London? For me, 60'-70' has a very unique/profound background that everyone born into have a sense of being "historical" afterwards; music is one of the most reflective media to convey such energies [Uranus, Pluto, Neptune maybe] . My first and deepest impression is the background picture behind such music, even in different styles or techniques, more real and soul-reaching; R&R was born in a rocky time/space indeed. It doesn't mean 21th music is shallow or light, from some or many, life becomes more stable and easier although the contrast becomes more dramatic. To some extent, we all belong to certain period of time, U2, Co. and such are more compatible from this aspect. But I am glad to see Chris got some inspirations from Bruce Springsteen even Bob Dylan, could be a new stage of development in the art of writing and expressing [astrological set...]. Emotion power is not necessarily the most representable through emotion.

There is a thin line between being natural&real and common&not real enough, again, we've reproduced/reinvented music when we listen INto it and express what we feel OUT, already a personal 'breathing'. I don't know how to compare, as I cherish all these breathing IN/OUT moment, real and beautiful.

debating on then, sorry for my off-track parking.

[rainplay]

Well to add to the U2 vs Coldplay battle this isn't actually a battle. Learn to read.

No need to be rude.
Didn't really have time to read through the whole thread

[foxeh]

No need to be rude.
Didn't really have time to read through the whole thread

He's always rude dont worry.

[MrMagpie]

No need to be rude.
Didn't really have time to read through the whole thread

Well even if you read the first post you would see it wasn't a debate. You just hopped into something you had no clue about.

He's always rude dont worry.

Only to stupid people and I guess you fall under that category.

[rainplay]

Well even if you read the first post you would see it wasn't a debate. You just hopped into something you had no clue about.
.

Hmm.

Since we all love a U2 vs. Coldplay debate.

Now you could have just been kidding, but to someone like myself who only read the first page you can see where I would think it was a debate/battle/discussion/whatever.

[the_gloaming09]

Briggins isn't the kind of person to kid or joke around.

[foxeh]

Well even if you read the first post you would see it wasn't a debate. You just hopped into something you had no clue about.



Only to stupid people and I guess you fall under that category.

See again... doesnt matter if your a genius or not.
He hides his stupidity with trolling.
Unsuccessful.

[MrMagpie]

See again... doesnt matter if your a genious or not.
He hides his stupidity with trolling.
Unsuccessful.

I'm glad you think I'm a genius.

*takes a bow*

How am I trolling?

[foxeh]

I'm glad you think I'm a genius.

*takes a bow*

How am I trolling?

It wasnt pointed on you.
Jesus...

Now you think i call you Jesus?

[MrMagpie]

It wasnt pointed on you.
Jesus...

Now you think i call you Jesus?

No, I believe you are cursing.

[MrMagpie]

And you didn't say why I'm a troll, or why I'm stupid. Are you trolling me?

[foxeh]

And you didn't say why I'm a troll, or why I'm stupid. Are you trolling me?

I just dont like you.
End of.

[TheSkittz]

^^^

I respect your bluntness and honesty :)

[MrMagpie]

I just dont like you.
End of.

I just don't understand why. You seemed to come out of nowhere and make a sweeping statement that I am rude all the time.

[Megalomania]

LEAVE BRIGGINS ALONE *sob*

Seriously though, Briggins knows what he's talking about. :nod: