The new VIVA LA VIDA

[Coldplero]

After watching many of the new Coldplay performances these summer festival, I was wondering if "Charlie Brown" (PKA Cartoon Hearts) is the new Viva La Vida, emotionally speaking...
It has moments when you must clap insaly and moments when you must jump and singalong.
Which song do you think it's the new Viva La Vida in the LP5 era?
Salutes

[JackZ]

I'm hoping we haven't seen it yet. But so far it would be Charlie brown.

[rafaelchampion]

I guess Charlie Brown is most the 'Violet Hill moment' of the album
Not sure, need to listen to the album first

[Coldplero]

I guess Charlie Brown is most the 'Violet Hill moment' of the album
Not sure, need to listen to the album first

I think the Violet Hill would be Major Minus, and LiTii = Hurts Like Heaven

[Destrokk]

I think Every Teardrop is a Waterfall would be Viva La Vida :blank:

[Brent]

Viva was so successful because it had an original sound coupled with a radio-friendly structure and good lyrics easy to sing along to.

That being said, while CB is a great song and certainly a fan-favorite, I really don't think it's that radio friendly, which is what made Viva what it has become. CB's structure is weird for a pop song and takes too many risks. Viva was successful because it was very straightforward.

[footyfan10]

I mean, if you mean what will be the biggest song from the new album, I think Charlie Brown just might.

I do think it's in need of a name change though. To reference such a culturally popular American character in your song title, just doesn't seem to be very Coldplay. I certainly understand the reference, because the song seems to be about Chris Martin being the type of kid who keeps running up to kick the football even though he always has it pulled away.

I actually love that reference, but I would have preferred it lyrically and not in the title.

That aside, I think CB may just be the big single on the album and if that's the case that'd be great. But who wouldn't love an even better song.

[Coldplay3277]

Charlie Brown?....no
and ETIAW is like a turd..just flush it :-|

[Brent]

^Dude, you've been hating on ETIAW on every thread for a month now. We get it. You don't like it. Geez.

[Coldplay3277]

i do it as much i like, as many times as i want, right now im just half way there :) i think another billion more hates will be great :) you'd be amazed how much i dont care what ppl say lol

[Coldplay3277]

i do it as much i like, as many times as i want, right now im just half way there :) i think another billion more hates will be great :) you'd be amazed how much i dont care what ppl say lol

[DundahMifflin]

^Dude, you've been hating on ETIAW on every thread for a month now. We get it. You don't like it. Geez.

This.

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

^Or exactly twice? :p

footyfan, I agree about the name; Cartoon Heart would be a little more Coldplay-esque. But I think now that I know the song and its lyrics, it makes a lot of sense to have the name it does. Besides, VLVoDAAHF is a pretty cheesy title. :p

The new Viva la Vida? Probably ETIAW, POC, or something we haven't seen yet. CB is more of a Violet Hill or something.

[ThePolitik]

Personally I think ETIAW is a lot like VLV.
And I also think that Moving to Mars is Death and All His Friends re-incarnate. Anyone agree??

[FlipBack]

Personally I think ETIAW is a lot like VLV.
And I also think that Moving to Mars is Death and All His Friends re-incarnate. Anyone agree??

I don't think MTM is anywhere near as good as DAAHF.

[Major_Love]

^Dude, you've been hating on ETIAW on every thread for a month now. We get it. You don't like it. Geez.


Hahaha....so true! :laugh3:

For me, I hope on the new record won't be a Viva la Vida in terms of structure. So I don't think we can say that CB will be another Viva because like other ones here said, its to difficult for a radio friendly song and actually it reminds me more of songs like Violett Hill then Viva.

Viva is a great radio song but I hope that the new Coldplay album won't have such radio friendly songs.

Btw, ETIAW seems to be the new Viva for me, althought the structure is also too complicated for a comparism with Viva la Vida...

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

To me:

Charlie Brown - reminds me of Yellow

Hurts Like Heaven - Life In Technicolor II

Major Minus - Violet Hill

Princess of China - The most Viva-ish song so far

UAtW - Trouble

ETiaW - A cross between Lost! and Lovers In Japan

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

dp, sorry

[the_escapist]

I'm hoping we haven't seen it yet. But so far it would be Charlie brown.

This.

[Alien Radio]

Violet Hill is a radio-friendly song too. At least, at my place. They have played it here like million times. :)

[Major_Love]

To me:

Charlie Brown - reminds me of Yellow

Hurts Like Heaven - Life In Technicolor II

Major Minus - Violet Hill

Princess of China - The most Viva-ish song so far

UAtW - Trouble

ETiaW - A cross between Lost! and Lovers In Japan

For me, the structure of Yellow and CB are to different from each other to say that they are similar in a way and HLH has a strong Arcade Fire influence which I can't see in Life in Technicolor.

Major Minus reminds me not in any way of Violett Hill. :P Really. But its hard to find any Coldplay song which goes the same direction...

PoC is a song which I didn't hear until now, so, hard to say something about it, actually its a mix between Violett Hill, Lost and Viva for me.

[rafaelchampion]

You all are comparing Hurts Like Heaven with LiT just because is (supposedly) opens the album, but their style are very different :inquisitive:

[the_escapist]

You all are comparing Hurts Like Heaven with LiT just because is (supposedly) opens the album, but their style are very different :inquisitive:

actually, probably MX will open the album.

[Major_Love]

You all are comparing Hurts Like Heaven with LiT just because is (supposedly) opens the album, but their style are very different :inquisitive:

Yeah, I think the same.

[JackZ]

I thought PoC was this albums Lost!...

[rafaelchampion]

To me PoC is like "Yes"

[Phoebeo]

It could be. Or Hurts like heaven.

I think Hurts like heaven could be pretty popular too. :)

[Juanma]

I think they will have a Viva Song on the álbum that is not charlie brown
Talking in terms of massiveness :D

[Phoebeo]

^Dude, you've been hating on ETIAW on every thread for a month now. We get it. You don't like it. Geez.

This.

[The Final Track]

^Dude, you've been hating on ETIAW on every thread for a month now. We get it. You don't like it. Geez.

if he'd been saying positive things about ETIAW, would it be any different?

[kover]

Here's something to think about. I'm going out on a limb here but I think the new Viva La Vida will also be the album title and it will precede Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall on the album. If you think about it, on both VLV and X&Y, the pre-album single has come after the title song.

[Brent]

^Haha for a second there I thought you were saying the album would be called "The New Viva la Vida!." :laugh3:

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

For me, the structure of Yellow and CB are to different from each other to say that they are similar in a way and HLH has a strong Arcade Fire influence which I can't see in Life in Technicolor.

Major Minus reminds me not in any way of Violett Hill. :P Really. But its hard to find any Coldplay song which goes the same direction...

PoC is a song which I didn't hear until now, so, hard to say something about it, actually its a mix between Violett Hill, Lost and Viva for me.


How so? The time signatures of CB and Yellow are certainly different, but as far as the structure goes, they are pretty similar. Guitar riff -> vocals -> guitar riff -> vocals-> guitar riff to end the song.

Really? HLH doesn't sound anything like Arcade Fire to me, but to each their own :nice: But in terms of the upbeat tempo and overall feel of the song I think they are comparable.

And I think VH and Major Minus are similar because they are both really dark, gritty songs with not a lot of fluff.

PoC reminds me of Viva because they both have that synth-y keyboard sound providing the backbone of the song ;)

[coldplayisawesome]

i think... Charlie Brown is/will be the Charlie Brown of LP5 (assuming it ends up on the final tracklist). :P

[JackZ]

i think... Charlie Brown is/will be the Charlie Brown of LP5 (assuming it ends up on the final tracklist). :P

:nod:

[Stv]

:thinking:

Charlie Brown will be the new Life In Technicolor ii.

Princess of China is the new Violet Hill.

Hurts Like Heaven is the new Glass Of Water.

Major Minus is the new Cementeries of London.

M-Xylobrytes (MX) is like a short Life in Technicolor.:lol:

Us Against The World is the new Strawberry Swing.

Moving To Mars is the new Death And All His Friends.

And you will not believe this, but I think that...
Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall is the new Viva La vida.:laugh3: (I'm not crazy!):shocked2:

Because Viva is not my favourite song of VLVODAAHF;:D I prefer Violet Hill.

[Brent]

Moving to Mars is the new Violet Hill, obviously.

[Blue Glisten]

Hurts Like Heaven, I think the new VLV... Because it's the best :)

Charlie Brown / Violet Hill

Moving To Mars / Lost

[Hartroc]

I don't think MTM is anywhere near as good as DAAHF.

Sadly, I must agree.

[Hartroc]

Really? HLH doesn't sound anything like Arcade Fire to me, but to each their own :nice: But in terms of the upbeat tempo and overall feel of the song I think they are comparable.

The melody is very Win Butler-ish.

[kover]

I don't think every song on Viva is gunna have a soul mate on LP5. To me, this is as impractical as trying to match up songs on VIva with songs on X&Y. The albums just aren't compatible.

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

The melody is very Win Butler-ish.


/Does not know who Win Butler is :disappointed:

[Hartroc]

/Does not know who Win Butler is :disappointed:

Arcade Fire frontman/songwriter. ;) Hurts Like Heaven sounds melodically similar Keep the Car Running or one of the other upbeat tracks on Neon Bible or The Suburbs.

[Brent]

The first time I heard Hurts Like Heaven I automatically thought of Arcade Fire! Which isn't a bad thing. :smug:

[Hartroc]

The first time I heard Hurts Like Heaven I automatically thought of Arcade Fire! Which isn't a bad thing. :smug:

Yeah, they're one of my favorites!

For my money, Funeral > Coldplay :P

[Brent]

For my money, Funeral > Coldplay :P

YOUR MONEY'S NO GOOD HERE!

Hahaha. But seriously, Funeral is basically flawless, and it's good to hear that their style is being explored by other groups. It's interesting to hear with Chris' voice though. :smug:

[Hartroc]

YOUR MONEY'S NO GOOD HERE!

Hahaha. But seriously, Funeral is basically flawless, and it's good to hear that their style is being explored by other groups. It's interesting to hear with Chris' voice though. :smug:

Funeral is my favorite album of the 2000's. Radiohead's In Rainbows comes close, but not quite. :cool:

Actually though, Hurts Like Heaven doesn't much sound like anything on Funeral. On AF's next two albums they started sounding more blatantly like Bruce Springsteen, and HLH sounds more like that.

[Brent]

^For some reason HLH really sounds like "Ready to Start" to me. It has the same light, fast-paced melody/vocals with minimal percussion, and the same weird time signature. Plus great wordplay!

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

Arcade Fire frontman/songwriter. ;) Hurts Like Heaven sounds melodically similar Keep the Car Running or one of the other upbeat tracks on Neon Bible or The Suburbs.

:facepalm: I obviously need to listen to more Arcade Fire

[Blue Glisten]

I don't think every song on Viva is gunna have a soul mate on LP5. To me, this is as impractical as trying to match up songs on VIva with songs on X&Y. The albums just aren't compatible.
I hope it will be good but I'm afraid if this album will be about their personal lives... Because the tittle "Charlie Brown" remind me the cartoon of snoopy and maybe Chris or Guy will sayfor promo on tv "This song is for my kids yes " :\
I don't like when artists talk about their personal lives, especially the singers because the lyrics significance are very important in songs :bulb: , I love when the songs are wrote for fans. I love some songs on albums Parachutes and Viva La Vida because it was about everything and they was wrote for everyone and only everyone... And not for persons about their lifes :inquisitive:
Lp5 seems to be too much "kids, toys, plastic, cartoon..." I hope it will not :worried:

Good thing, Hurts Like Heaven, seems to be wrote for everyone of the audience and it is very beautiful song :heart:

[Brent]

I hope it will be good but I'm afraid if this album will be about their personal lives... Because the tittle "Charlie Brown" remind me the cartoon of snoopy and maybe Chris or Guy will sayfor promo on tv "This song is for my kids yes " :\
I don't like when artists talk about their personal lives, especially the singers because the lyrics significance are very important in songs :bulb: , I love when the songs are wrote for fans. I love some songs on albums Parachutes and Viva La Vida because it was about everything and they was wrote for everyone and only everyone... And not for persons about their lifes :inquisitive:
Lp5 seems to be too much "kids, toys, plastic, cartoon..." I hope it will not :worried:

Good thing, Hurts Like Heaven, seems to be wrote for everyone of the audience and it is very beautiful song :heart:

Nah. Chris wouldn't have that. He's so innately secretive about his private life! Jonny, Guy and Will also don't seem to be too keen on sharing personal details.

[Blue Glisten]

Nah. Chris wouldn't have that. He's so innately secretive about his private life! Jonny, Guy and Will also don't seem to be too keen on sharing personal details.
I hope you're right :)

[Fix42YellowClocks]

Nah. Chris wouldn't have that. He's so innately secretive about his private life! Jonny, Guy and Will also don't seem to be too keen on sharing personal details.

Definitely agree. It's not like him to do that at all. I think Chris will master How to Disappear Completely and forever avoid the paparazzi before that happens. :P

[Hartroc]

Definitely agree. It's not like him to do that at all. I think Chris will master How to Disappear Completely and forever avoid the paparazzi before that happens. :P

:smug:

[VikingNieku]

i really hope that Us Against The World is going to be the new Scientist and maybe Charlie Brown the Viva la Vida and HLH like Lovers in Japan.

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

Definitely agree. It's not like him to do that at all. I think Chris will master How to Disappear Completely and forever avoid the paparazzi before that happens. :P

JAJAJAJAJ I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.

[Denimjaguar]

Moving to mars = Amsterdam

[BloodlessRevolutioner]

I think that princess of china will be the new radio hit and the new VlV

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

Moving to mars = Amsterdam

I suppose, although

Amsterdam > Moving to Mars :P

[neettakeshi]

I think Coldplay will perform a new song in iTunes festival.
It will be Viva la Vida in LP5.

[42rock89]

I think Coldplay will perform a new song in iTunes festival.
It will be Viva la Vida in LP5.

Viva La Vida pt2? :confused:

[QuestionsOfScience]

How about the songs not being "the new" anything? Maybe we should just see the new ones as something completely different and not to compare them with previous efforts, after all isn't that what Coldplay want to do? Move on from previous styles and feels of songs?
Maybe it's just me but I don't like thinking of the newer songs as "the new" anything, be it Viva La Vida, The Scientist or No More Keeping My Feet On The Ground for all I know. Just saying...

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

^ Fair enough, but I think what everyone is trying to say that there will be a song on LP5 that is similar to Viva in terms of how much publicity it gets. Viva was top of the charts around the world for a number of weeks, and there may be a song like that on LP5. :shrug:

Plus, Princess of China does sound somewhat similar to Viva in terms of the synth beat and structure . . .

[Fix42YellowClocks]

I'm thinking if they really have a "best song" for the new album, they probably haven't played it yet. I mean, do you remember for the last album? They didn't talk about Viva la Vida at all. Except when we got that track by track synopsis from the one magazine in late March 08 (I believe). And then they told us when they announced the tracklist in mid April. But they never mentioned it before then. Prospekt didn't. The songs they were considering had Lost! and Violet Hill from the beginning but not VlV. They even told one of the magazines in January 08 that the big songs on the album were going to be Famous Old Painters, Glass of Water, and Cemeteries of London. I remember like it was yesterday. :) They're such secret keepers. But yeah. They always kept it out of the spotlight until it came down to actually revealing the tracklist. I don't believe for a second any of the live songs we've heard is the one they like the most from the new sessions.

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

^ I hope you're right :wacky:

Although it's pretty hard to imagine a song that could go bigger than Viva . . . And, personally, I think it'll take a huge song to beat out Charlie Brown and Hurts Like Heaven.

[QuestionsOfScience]

I'm thinking if they really have a "best song" for the new album, they probably haven't played it yet. I mean, do you remember for the last album? They didn't talk about Viva la Vida at all. Except when we got that track by track synopsis from the one magazine in late March 08 (I believe). And then they told us when they announced the tracklist in mid April. But they never mentioned it before then. Prospekt didn't. The songs they were considering had Lost! and Violet Hill from the beginning but not VlV. They even told one of the magazines in January 08 that the big songs on the album were going to be Famous Old Painters, Glass of Water, and Cemeteries of London. I remember like it was yesterday. :) They're such secret keepers. But yeah. They always kept it out of the spotlight until it came down to actually revealing the tracklist. I don't believe for a second any of the live songs we've heard is the one they like the most from the new sessions.

Maybe it just so happens that it was Viva La Vida which was missed out? It could have been Lost! or Glass Of Water for all we know. And to the idea they were saving it for later, I remember reading that it has been through several incarnations before they settled on the final result, and during the time Prospekt was posting to the website, it was way more than a year before the release so there's lots of room for change.
We could have been listening to the future "hit" of the album from their Glastonbury or Rock Im Park set, it could be Princess of China, Hurts Like Heaven or Charlie Brown, but I doubt it was Us Against The World...I'm not really feeling it with that one :L

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

^ Agreed about UAtW. It's a good song, but I definitely don't see it becoming a huge hit.

[Stv]

PoC and Charlie are the new VIOLET hILL and the new vlv respectively, and the two biggest hits from LP5

[Stv]

PoC and Charlie are the new VIOLET hILL and the new vlv respectively, and the two biggest hits from LP5

[Stv]

ok, i kinda got enough of this comment-multiposting-shizz-computer :P

[Major_Love]

^ Agreed about UAtW. It's a good song, but I definitely don't see it becoming a huge hit.

All these slow and emotional Coldplay songs of the last two albums like Reign of Love, Now my feet won't touch the ground, Prospekts March/Poppyfields, Til Kingdom Come... aren't really big, yes, thats true, but none of them are released as a single which is important to grow to a big hit. I'm sure if Us against the world would be released as a single it will be besides The Scientist one of Coldplays biggest "slow songs" and a huge number at live perfomances. Personally I hope that UatW will be released as a single but don't think that they will do that, because Hurts Like Heaven, Charlie Brown, Princess of China and maybe a unknown song will steal the show. :thinking::\:angry:

[foxeh]

In these days of Music no Song like UATW will be Hits.
Only Mainstream will become famous :(.
Yes there are exceptions.
Well sometimes even that changes...

[FlipBack]

All these slow and emotional Coldplay songs of the last two albums like Reign of Love, Now my feet won't touch the ground, Prospekts March/Poppyfields, Til Kingdom Come... aren't really big, yes, thats true, but none of them are released as a single which is important to grow to a big hit. I'm sure if Us against the world would be released as a single it will be besides The Scientist one of Coldplays biggest "slow songs" and a huge number at live perfomances. Personally I hope that UatW will be released as a single but don't think that they will do that, because Hurts Like Heaven, Charlie Brown, Princess of China and maybe a unknown song will steal the show. :thinking::\:angry:

UATW will never come close to The Scientist.

[Major_Love]

UATW will never come close to The Scientist.

For me the song is much better then The Scientist which I love also. Its a great great song, but Us against the world touched me deeper than The Scientist (which touched me also very deep!) ;).

Its my personal opinion about UatW.

[matan]

yes beacuse its a good song :)

[FlipBack]

For me the song is much better then The Scientist which I love also. Its a great great song, but Us against the world touched me deeper than The Scientist (which touched me also very deep!) ;).

Its my personal opinion about UatW.

Well I didn't mean it isn't as good or better. I meant as far as being as big a hit. It won't happen.

[Major_Love]

Well I didn't mean it isn't as good or better. I meant as far as being as big a hit. It won't happen.

As I said, it depends if they decide to release the song as a single or not. My thoughts.

[csiew88]

To me:

Charlie Brown - reminds me of Yellow

Hurts Like Heaven - Life In Technicolor II

Major Minus - Violet Hill

Princess of China - The most Viva-ish song so far

UAtW - Trouble

ETiaW - A cross between Lost! and Lovers In Japan

Charlie Brown = Yellow

Hurts Like Heaven = Life in Technicolor ii

Major Minus = Violet Hill

Princess of China = Yes

UAtW = Trouble

ETiaW = Lovers in Japan + Viva la Vida

[Stv]

charlie brown = life in technicolor ii
hurts like heaven = glass of water
major minus = cemeteries of london
princess of china = violet hill
us against the world = strawberry swing
moving to mars = death and all his friends
every teardrop is a waterfall = viva la vida
dlibyh = some grungy stuff like radiohead's pablo honey