This song has the edge they have been looking for

[UrbanBuckeye33]

Forget about the odd vocal effect for a second (which I don't love, but can appreciate). This is the edginess that a coldplay song just has never had. It is uptempo and really has some teeth. I can't ever remember hearing a song that had the real darkness and power of a Muse or a radiohead song like Bodysnatchers, but this is it. The guitar work here is amazing, and the bass work is as good as I have heard out of Coldplay. This is a fantastic song.

They really have that Radiohead sound right now, but in their own unique way.

[Hartroc]

Bodysnatchers > Major Minus

:nod:

[Juanma]

It is so energetic :D

and the vocals,Will sings too

[UrbanBuckeye33]

No argument on bodysnatchers being better than this track. But I like the direction. I can appreciate that everyone makes different songs and sounds and this one is pretty stellar.

[cackyy]

I don't know how we didn't see Will singing before, because in the leftrightleftright, Chris says "Now, this is the moment where we show you how could our band could of been", and introduces Will singing

[Crests]

they need to also release an acoustic version

[Hartroc]

No argument on bodysnatchers being better than this track. But I like the direction. I can appreciate that everyone makes different songs and sounds and this one is pretty stellar.

In that case, I agree 100%.

[howyousawtheworld]

This would tear Parachutes to shreds if it ever came into contact with it.

[Coldplaying@Hogwarts]

This is the best Coldplay song in a long, long time.

[Crests]

Wow, from looking at my FB newsfeed I never would have guessed you thought that!
haha

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

Hell yes! The thing Jonny does on the guitar before entering in the chorus is very reminiscent of (the other) Johnny in Creep. I love the song, and for those who are hating on the vocals - HEY. 1. It's not autotune and 2. Muse and Radiohead have BOTH used a lot of funky vocal effects to trick out their songs. It's a legit thing to do and it sounds good.

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

they need to also release an acoustic version

THIS. I know what the guys were going for with the vocal distortion (I'm actually starting to like it) but I'd like to hear a studio version without it.

[PeeJay]

As said by many, MM is one of the best songs they have created, so energetic and with such an unique sound. The vocal distortion fits in it completely. I don't know if they have been looking for an edge, but this song definitely has one. I am still in doubt though if it even isn't Jonny singing (too)..

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

^ I'm with you. I can't make up my mind if I hear Jonny or not . . .

If you listen to the Live 2003 version of Politik, you can hear Jonny singing backup in a couple of parts (he sounds really creepy, but in a good way) and there's a few parts in Major Minus that remind me strongly of that. . . . We should ask the Oracle!

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

How does it have a Radiohead sound to it? I basically find it more U2 ish than anything.

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

^ I'm with you. I can't make up my mind if I hear Jonny or not . . .

If you listen to the Live 2003 version of Politik, you can hear Jonny singing backup in a couple of parts (he sounds really creepy, but in a good way) and there's a few parts in Major Minus that remind me strongly of that. . . . We should ask the Oracle!

Don't forget Daylight. :D

[the_escapist]

it is a great b-side. I concur with the vocal effect, but come on guys, this is Coldplay trying new sounds and I think the result is pretty good.

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

How does it have a Radiohead sound to it? I basically find it more U2 ish than anything.

Just because the title of this thread has "the edge"..... :lol:

[Strawberry Swinger]

Bodysnatchers > Major Minus

:nod:

I've seen it coming!
I've seen it coming!
I've seen it coming!
I've seen it coming!

[the_gloaming09]

Bodysnatchers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Major Minus

:nod:
fixed
How does it have a Radiohead sound to it? I basically find it more U2 ish than anything.

yeah I agree. it has U2 written all over it, especially w/ the guitar

[the_gloaming09]

double post

[howyousawtheworld]

Don't forget Daylight. :D

Daylight is much better live than on record. Overall not the best Coldplay song though. Good but no where near most on AROBTTH let alone their whole back catalogue.

[Major_Love]

This vibe of Major Minus is so new for them, so... I can't describe this with words...hopefully you know what I mean...he is so full of energy and power...wooohhhh...amazing!

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

Just because the title of this thread has "the edge"..... :lol:

No :thinking: it sounds more like it has U2 or any of the likes of U2, not really Radiohead. That response was pretty silly. I will agree it sounds Radiohead-ish when he sings making the sounds Thom makes, the moaning, the whimping, the weird music sounds, the hard to get into thing and a Jonny Greenwood-esque part. This song has guitar effects, woah omg, it is definitely Radiohead.

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

No :thinking: it sounds more like it has U2 or any of the likes of U2, not really Radiohead. That response was pretty silly. I will agree it sounds Radiohead-ish when he sings making the sounds Thom makes, the moaning, the whimping, the weird music sounds, the hard to get into thing and a Jonny Greenwood-esque part. This song has guitar effects, woah omg, it is definitely Radiohead.

It was a silly response because I meant it as a joke. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

In any case, I'm having trouble comparing MM to anything on the basis of the guitar work. On the other hand, I do think it has the tone of a Radiohead song - as others pointed out, Bodysnatchers. It has that atmosphere of paranoia and fear through the instrumentation and vocals + lyrics, which is captured very often in Radiohead songs but perhaps in different ways.

[MasoKnight]

Eh, didn't really think of either U2 or Radiohead listening to it. The closest I can relate is that the beginning sounds like some of the more guitar-heavy stuff from Hail to the Thief.

[Strawberry Swinger]

No :thinking: it sounds more like it has U2 or any of the likes of U2, not really Radiohead. That response was pretty silly. I will agree it sounds Radiohead-ish when he sings making the sounds Thom makes, the moaning, the whimping, the weird music sounds, the hard to get into thing and a Jonny Greenwood-esque part. This song has guitar effects, woah omg, it is definitely Radiohead.


the guy was joking,chill .

[macky]

I appreciate the risk taking and I love Johnny on this song but i will be listening to the live version (which is epic) only.
This makes me scared that I might not like the studio versions of the others as well :(

[Tnspieler1012]

haha, it funny because jonny sound like edge. haha ho-ho...

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

Ho ho ho, X&Y sounds like the whole Radiohead discography because of the depression and the dark themes of paranoia in the sounds and lyrics.

[UrbanBuckeye33]

I think the feel of the song and the theme is radioheadish. Not a big U2 guy so can't really comment there.

[Fix42YellowClocks]

I think I DON'T CARE WHO IT SOUNDS LIKE. Everyone borrows music references from everyone else. This isn't exactly something NEW people. U2 borrowed from others and so did Radiohead after them- it's no big deal! THEY didn't write this song. COLDPLAY did. And it's an incredible song I don't care what anyone says.

Can we stop nitpicking at everything please? Give them a break for once. They're the best band in the world. They're doing everything they can. We should just be glad they're still together with all the times they've been on the verge of breaking up. They're four great men who written an amazing tune and don't need comparisons to other bands before them.

They're not just descendants of great musical styles. They're greater than the sum of their parts and better than any band they borrow from or who you keep comparing them to. Love the song or hate the song. Credit them for their work and on their merits. Just stop comparing them 24/7. Next thing everyone's going to say they stole that flake Satriani's music again. Will someone just give them some damn credit for once? Gosh. :P

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

The stole it from Satriani. Everyone steals from that master mind.

[Prospekt.]

Lol Radiohead fangirls.

;)

[Fix42YellowClocks]

The stole it from Satriani. Everyone steals from that master mind.

:P lol Wow. Not funny. This is serious!

I like your polysaccaride like pic though. That's not the name for it but yeah. :P Very reminiscent of chemistry last year.

[Violet]

Forget about the odd vocal effect for a second (which I don't love, but can appreciate). This is the edginess that a coldplay song just has never had. It is uptempo and really has some teeth. I can't ever remember hearing a song that had the real darkness and power of a Muse or a radiohead song like Bodysnatchers, but this is it. The guitar work here is amazing, and the bass work is as good as I have heard out of Coldplay. This is a fantastic song.

They really have that Radiohead sound right now, but in their own unique way.

I don't agree with anything in this post.

Seriously. I didn't find it edgy. It may have been as far as Coldplay is concerned (because they are going in a different direction), but it's hardly anything special. I don't see how it has "teeth," as you say. I like the guitars, and I think they sound cool, but I've heard better guitar work. If you want a dark Coldplay song, go listen to "Violet Hill." That's plenty dark; it's definitely more so than "Major Minus."

Oh, and comparing Coldplay to Muse and Radiohead. That's silly. I'm an avid listener of all three bands, and I don't see how this new Coldplay song relates to either of the other two, especially not Muse.

Bodysnatchers > Major Minus

:nod:

Yes. :nod:

I don't know how we didn't see Will singing before, because in the leftrightleftright, Chris says "Now, this is the moment where we show you how could our band could of been", and introduces Will singing

Will singing is adorable. :blush:

This is the best Coldplay song in a long, long time.

Where's a :shake: emoticon when you need one?

Hell yes! The thing Jonny does on the guitar before entering in the chorus is very reminiscent of (the other) Johnny in Creep. I love the song, and for those who are hating on the vocals - HEY. 1. It's not autotune and 2. Muse and Radiohead have BOTH used a lot of funky vocal effects to trick out their songs. It's a legit thing to do and it sounds good.

1. I don't get the "Creep" relation.
2. It's not really the fact they used vocal effects, so much as how they were used that I have a problem with. Yeah, Muse and Radiohead both do things like that, but they make it work. The effects on this song were just kinda meh. I'm much more used to them now, but I'm not in love with them, y'know.

I think I DON'T CARE WHO IT SOUNDS LIKE. Everyone borrows music references from everyone else. This isn't exactly something NEW people. U2 borrowed from others and so did Radiohead after them- it's no big deal! THEY didn't write this song. COLDPLAY did. And it's an incredible song I don't care what anyone says.

Can we stop nitpicking at everything please? Give them a break for once. They're the best band in the world. They're doing everything they can. We should just be glad they're still together with all the times they've been on the verge of breaking up. They're four great men who written an amazing tune and don't need comparisons to other bands before them.

They're not just descendants of great musical styles. They're greater than the sum of their parts and better than any band they borrow from or who you keep comparing them to. Love the song or hate the song. Credit them for their work and on their merits. Just stop comparing them 24/7. Next thing everyone's going to say they stole that flake Satriani's music again. Will someone just give them some damn credit for once? Gosh. :P

OK. You need to calm down. You're making a big fuss over nothing.

Nobody mentioned anything about borrowing being a problem. Renowed Russian composer Igor Stravinsky once said, "A good composer doesn't write; he steals." People often take elements from several other people and put them together with their own ideas to make it theirs.

"They're the best band in the world." There is no such thing. If there were, people wouldn't have different opinions on it, and we'd all listen to one band. There's nothing wrong with being picky about something. Nobody is perfect, and people can always get better. How can we as fans expect Coldplay to better their music if we don't give them feedback on what we do and don't like?

If they were "better than any band they borrowed from," then what would be the point of them borrowing from other people? They wouldn't borrow from other people in the first place unless they felt they could use it to better their music and/or use it to guide them in a different musical direction.

Oh, and nobody in this thread said anything about how they don't deserve credit for what they did, so I don't see why you keep making that point.

[Juanma]

no u2 no radiohead

Its coldplay evolving :D

[Caroline]

I like this song better in the studio. I didn't care for it live, but perhaps that's because I hadn't heard the studio version yet. I have high hopes for moving to mars.

[c0ldplay420]

I find it funny when people say "It sounds like radio head." or "it sounds like U2."

I've been listening to this song all day and have come to the conclusion that it sounds exactly like Coldplay. This is how they should sound right now. So many things that point back to the days of old Coldplay and including new and more exciting sounds that are just Coldplay.

[86Timewarp]

Well we can all agree that LP5/MM will be something to look forward too. Hopefully when the US gets the chance to buy the digital bundle it might be a step closer to it's release.

[rainplay]

..I think I like the live version of it better.

[Violet]

Nah, I didn't care much for it live, either. That's just because I happen to be kinda picky with live music, though.

[rainplay]

Eh..yeah. But I've only heard it once so far, might change my opinion

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

:P lol Wow. Not funny. This is serious!

I like your polysaccaride like pic though. That's not the name for it but yeah. :P Very reminiscent of chemistry last year.

It's dopamine.

[hotdensestate]

Bodysnatchers > Major Minus

:nod:

Siggably factual.

[Fix42YellowClocks]

OK. You need to calm down. You're making a big fuss over nothing.

Nobody mentioned anything about borrowing being a problem. Renowed Russian composer Igor Stravinsky once said, "A good composer doesn't write; he steals." People often take elements from several other people and put them together with their own ideas to make it theirs.

"They're the best band in the world." There is no such thing. If there were, people wouldn't have different opinions on it, and we'd all listen to one band. There's nothing wrong with being picky about something. Nobody is perfect, and people can always get better. How can we as fans expect Coldplay to better their music if we don't give them feedback on what we do and don't like?

If they were "better than any band they borrowed from," then what would be the point of them borrowing from other people? They wouldn't borrow from other people in the first place unless they felt they could use it to better their music and/or use it to guide them in a different musical direction.

Oh, and nobody in this thread said anything about how they don't deserve credit for what they did, so I don't see why you keep making that point.


No. Not about nothing. About so many people being negative about it. It's as if they can't be pleased at all. If this is a Coldplay fansite why is everyone complaining about them? Why do they have to bring everyone else down?

True. It just gets annoying seeing Coldplay is U2. Coldplay is U2. Coldplay is U2. Coldplay is Radiohead. Coldplay is Radiohead. Coldplay is Radiohead. Just a bit. And I mean they're working with Brian Eno for Gosh sake. What else do you expect? Is that really needed to be pointed out? As if anyone here doesn't know he worked with U2 and basically shaped their sound sonic-wise

In my opinion there is. And if you're picky about everything how can you ever be satisfied with it? People find something to complain about in absolutely everything and can't just be damn happy for once. :angry: Is appreciation non-existent these days? ETIAW is dreadful, it's so out there. Nothing like their older stuff. MM sucks because they're doing something different. I wish people weren't so against change and for stagnation. It's like listening to conservative political ideology. :shifty:

In order to get as good as them in the first place, then go beyond that. No one can play music without having heard it anywhere else at all. Everyone's heard music and you can't help but be influenced by something, whatever it is. If you weren't influenced by people, you wouldn't be able to play the instruments at all in the first place.

When people are comparing them all the time it insinuates as if they don't have any original thoughts of their own. They're not some band who just rips everyone off like people/other artists seem to think. "They stole this song from me", "I hear this and I know that's really mine", "they sound so much like this band it's insane", "Hear that shimmery guitar? That's U2-ish." "Hear that falsetto vocal? That's Radiohead-esque." As if U2 and Radiohead were even the first/only bands to do that anyway. How about "They're an inspirational and talented band who deserves accolades for 13 years of terrific music and they've really made a positive impact on my life." Is that so much to ask? Is it so HARD to be positive?

[the_gloaming09]

I understand what you've said and I think you make some good points.


The issue that I have with the band is a bunch of things. Firstly... they seem to be trying to appeal to a very specific crowd with certain songs and in my eyes just want to be extremely popular. Secondly... yes I'll give them credit in changing up their sound, but I personally feel they are trying too hard to be different. It's almost as if they feel they have to prove themselves or make a statement to be different like so many bands. To me it just feels like they are less worried about the quality of their songs in exchange for fame. I mean I was listening to them playing Trouble live from one of the threads. And it sounded so good! Why can't they write or record songs like that? I mean not necessarily the same sound, but strip things down.... take it down a notch.

I used to love this band. I'm not just trying to jump on the bandwagon for the sake of doing so. I feel I try to give the band a chance. But they have let me down in that I don't really know what they are doing or trying to achieve any more (besides fame). Sadly to say it's turned me off from the band and I haven't been extremely excited to hear any new songs.


So I think in some sense you really can't blame people for being annoyed at the band or how it seems they are trying to emulate other bands.

[Bluejay]

I appreciate that they are indeed looking for change, hence these distorted Chrissy vocals we're getting with ETIAW and MM. However, I must admit I'm not a fan of that. Chris' voice is way too awesome to be distorted in such a way. As for my appreciation of the song, I find myself agreeing with this thread: apart from the distorted vocals, the song is indeed brilliant.

[robbery]

We shouldnt worry about the voice of Chris cause this is a B-side song just like songs Goldrush or even Rainy Day that were B-sides and sounded like this but the actual album was with chris's natural voice :)
anyway this song is really big it is tooo big to be just behind the Every Teardrop is a Waterfall

[Fix42YellowClocks]

I used to love this band. I'm not just trying to jump on the bandwagon for the sake of doing so. I feel I try to give the band a chance. But they have let me down in that I don't really know what they are doing or trying to achieve any more (besides fame). Sadly to say it's turned me off from the band and I haven't been extremely excited to hear any new songs.


So I think in some sense you really can't blame people for being annoyed at the band or how it seems they are trying to emulate other bands.


Really? I mean idk. I think that. They're not necessarily going along with other bands. I don't think there are any musicians that sound like them right now to be honest. I think they're separating themselves from their legion of imitators. A lot of bands have started to sound like them in ways. The Fray, OneRepublic, Keane, and a bunch of others. Pretty good bands I think but all the same. It's like their progressing past the path other bands have taken in clinging to the older Coldplay sound and braving a new direction. And as far as I'm concerned, they were a lot more fame-y and flashy during X&Y than they are now. They said it themselves, they weren't making the music THEY wanted. Now they finally are.

Maybe. If that's how you feel. I'm glad honestly- they're distancing themselves from some of their comparisons. They sound nothing like Radiohead as far as I'm concerned, like they did in the first two albums. And yes I'm comparing them now too. :P But only to make a necessary point.

[Violet]

No. Not about nothing. About so many people being negative about it. It's as if they can't be pleased at all. If this is a Coldplay fansite why is everyone complaining about them? Why do they have to bring everyone else down?

True. It just gets annoying seeing Coldplay is U2. Coldplay is U2. Coldplay is U2. Coldplay is Radiohead. Coldplay is Radiohead. Coldplay is Radiohead. Just a bit. And I mean they're working with Brian Eno for Gosh sake. What else do you expect? Is that really needed to be pointed out? As if anyone here doesn't know he worked with U2 and basically shaped their sound sonic-wise

In my opinion there is. And if you're picky about everything how can you ever be satisfied with it? People find something to complain about in absolutely everything and can't just be damn happy for once. :angry: Is appreciation non-existent these days? ETIAW is dreadful, it's so out there. Nothing like their older stuff. MM sucks because they're doing something different. I wish people weren't so against change and for stagnation. It's like listening to conservative political ideology. :shifty:

In order to get as good as them in the first place, then go beyond that. No one can play music without having heard it anywhere else at all. Everyone's heard music and you can't help but be influenced by something, whatever it is. If you weren't influenced by people, you wouldn't be able to play the instruments at all in the first place.

When people are comparing them all the time it insinuates as if they don't have any original thoughts of their own. They're not some band who just rips everyone off like people/other artists seem to think. "They stole this song from me", "I hear this and I know that's really mine", "they sound so much like this band it's insane", "Hear that shimmery guitar? That's U2-ish." "Hear that falsetto vocal? That's Radiohead-esque." As if U2 and Radiohead were even the first/only bands to do that anyway. How about "They're an inspirational and talented band who deserves accolades for 13 years of terrific music and they've really made a positive impact on my life." Is that so much to ask? Is it so HARD to be positive?

Oh, geez. I knew this was going to happen...

First of all, if you hold strong to your opinion about how much you love the song, then why does the opinion of others even matter? If people don't like it, that's their right. Honestly, I haven't seen anything horribly negative in this thread about the matter (e.g. "Wow, this song sucks," "Coldplay are stupid"), so I don't get why that's a problem. I also don't see how anyone is being brought down.

No one said anything about Coldplay = U2. People merely mentioned that this particular song reminded them of U2. There's a huge difference, and if so many people are mentioning it, there has to be at least a little bit of validity there, does it not? That doesn't make people wrong.

Exactly. It is an opinion. Anyway, about this whole thing about being picky...REALLY? Wow. Way to just blow my mind. There are a lot of people who like the songs. That's fine. There are also people who don't like the songs. Believe it or not, that's also completely OK. I don't get why people have to make such a fuss over an opinion that's not even theirs and, in turn, shouldn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. In fact, here, lemme give you my opinions. Honestly, ETIAW isn't that great. It's not. The only thing that really keeps me listening to the song at all is the guitar part; while it's not the greatest guitar riff ever, it's catchy. That was a smart move to put it in there. If it weren't, I'd probably hate the song. As far as "Major Minus" goes, it's much better than ETIAW, but I still like a lot of other Coldplay songs a helluva lot more. SO SUE ME. As a fan, I have a right to talk about what I don't like in a song. That doesn't make me picky, nor does that make me someone who always complains about something Coldplay does. It's my honest opinion. I hold firm on it. I don't make a fuss over your opinions; don't make a fuss over mine. While I'm at it, I'd like to mention how I find your comparison of said opinions to the conservative ideology to be highly ironic, given how you are reacting to everything. You're too caught up in your love of Coldplay to allow anyone to express a disagreement about anything. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't make the posts that you're making now.

But they haven't taken it beyond. At least, not in my opinion, which I have a right to express. They're not the most skilled players of their instruments. In fact, in the Keeper thread, I keep a quote that Will said about how he's "the best non-drummer in the world." They themselves admit they're not as skilled as other people. I don't get the point you were trying to make with that. Yeah, I love their music, but I've heard more innovative things from other bands. Sorry if that offends you (even though I shouldn't be, because it's what I believe).

You just proved your point wrong with what you said there. "U2-ish." "Radiohead-esque." Even if I did think that they sounded like another band, that's not necessarily a bad thing. You're taking it as such, it seems to me, and I don't understand why. No, it's not too much to ask to be positive, and there are plenty of people who are being positive. However, there are also going to be people who have negative thoughts on it, and if you can't handle it, well, that's not my problem.

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While I'm in the middle of my huge rant here, I feel like I need to speak my mind on something.

Ever since ETIAW came out, I've tried to be very careful with what I say to people. Never have I said anything particularly rude about Coldplay or anything, and I remind people about how much I love this band. However, apparently, if I say anything critical about Coldplay, I am immediately shunned by other members. It doesn't have to even matter; it can be something little like, "I don't like this part of this song," and people get all riled up over nothing. Yeah, there are a few people who troll around and get a little out of hand sometimes, but a lot of us with similar opinions to mine aren't like that, and I know I'm not aiming to be rude to people. I don't get why people have to be that way. I AM SICK AND TIRED of trying so hard to be so damn nice about how I explain things when people are just going to start stupid arguments over NOTHING and not even take what I say seriously or, what happens most of the time, just ignore me. I've tried really hard to be patient with some of you people. It's over now. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP.

[rainplay]

AHH so many long posts.

Why can't we all get along?

[Fix42YellowClocks]

Oh, geez. I knew this was going to happen...

First of all, if you hold strong to your opinion about how much you love the song, then why does the opinion of others even matter? If people don't like it, that's their right. Honestly, I haven't seen anything horribly negative in this thread about the matter (e.g. "Wow, this song sucks," "Coldplay are stupid"), so I don't get why that's a problem. I also don't see how anyone is being brought down.

No one said anything about Coldplay = U2. People merely mentioned that this particular song reminded them of U2. There's a huge difference, and if so many people are mentioning it, there has to be at least a little bit of validity there, does it not? That doesn't make people wrong.

Exactly. It is an opinion. Anyway, about this whole thing about being picky...REALLY? Wow. Way to just blow my mind. There are a lot of people who like the songs. That's fine. There are also people who don't like the songs. Believe it or not, that's also completely OK. I don't get why people have to make such a fuss over an opinion that's not even theirs and, in turn, shouldn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. In fact, here, lemme give you my opinions. Honestly, ETIAW isn't that great. It's not. The only thing that really keeps me listening to the song at all is the guitar part; while it's not the greatest guitar riff ever, it's catchy. That was a smart move to put it in there. If it weren't, I'd probably hate the song. As far as "Major Minus" goes, it's much better than ETIAW, but I still like a lot of other Coldplay songs a helluva lot more. SO SUE ME. As a fan, I have a right to talk about what I don't like in a song. That doesn't make me picky, nor does that make me someone who always complains about something Coldplay does. It's my honest opinion. I hold firm on it. I don't make a fuss over your opinions; don't make a fuss over mine. While I'm at it, I'd like to mention how I find your comparison of said opinions to the conservative ideology to be highly ironic, given how you are reacting to everything. You're too caught up in your love of Coldplay to allow anyone to express a disagreement about anything. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't make the posts that you're making now.

But they haven't taken it beyond. At least, not in my opinion, which I have a right to express. They're not the most skilled players of their instruments. In fact, in the Keeper thread, I keep a quote that Will said about how he's "the best non-drummer in the world." They themselves admit they're not as skilled as other people. I don't get the point you were trying to make with that. Yeah, I love their music, but I've heard more innovative things from other bands. Sorry if that offends you (even though I shouldn't be, because it's what I believe).

You just proved your point wrong with what you said there. "U2-ish." "Radiohead-esque." Even if I did think that they sounded like another band, that's not necessarily a bad thing. You're taking it as such, it seems to me, and I don't understand why. No, it's not too much to ask to be positive, and there are plenty of people who are being positive. However, there are also going to be people who have negative thoughts on it, and if you can't handle it, well, that's not my problem.

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While I'm in the middle of my huge rant here, I feel like I need to speak my mind on something.

Ever since ETIAW came out, I've tried to be very careful with what I say to people. Never have I said anything particularly rude about Coldplay or anything, and I remind people about how much I love this band. However, apparently, if I say anything critical about Coldplay, I am immediately shunned by other members. It doesn't have to even matter; it can be something little like, "I don't like this part of this song," and people get all riled up over nothing. Yeah, there are a few people who troll around and get a little out of hand sometimes, but a lot of us with similar opinions to mine aren't like that, and I know I'm not aiming to be rude to people. I don't get why people have to be that way. I AM SICK AND TIRED of trying so hard to be so damn nice about how I explain things when people are just going to start stupid arguments over NOTHING and not even take what I say seriously or, what happens most of the time, just ignore me. I've tried really hard to be patient with some of you people. It's over now. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP.

Sorry. Gosh. And you certainly do not sound huggable. How does someone delete their profile btw?

[Violet]

Sorry? Sorry for what? There's no need to be sorry about anything.

Yeah, I know I don't sound huggable right now, but most people aren't when they're severely agitated. Really, you don't know who I am as a person, so for you to make an assumption like that based on all of three posts is a bit silly.

Oh, and if you were inquiring about how to block me (which, by the way, is perfectly fine by me), go to the User CP. There's an ignore list option there, and you just add my user name there and voila! You don't have to read anything I say anymore. Have a nice day. :nice:

[Fix42YellowClocks]

Sorry? Sorry for what? There's no need to be sorry about anything.

Yeah, I know I don't sound huggable right now, but most people aren't when they're severely agitated. Really, you don't know who I am as a person, so for you to make an assumption like that based on all of three posts is a bit silly.

Oh, and if you were inquiring about how to block me (which, by the way, is perfectly fine by me), go to the User CP. There's an ignore list option there, and you just add my user name there and voila! You don't have to read anything I say anymore. Have a nice day. :nice:

Many things.

? :| I never said anything about who you are. Except you weren't currently huggable. You could be a really great person and I probably wouldn't know.

I appreciate it. A nice day to you as well.

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

Just popping in to clarify why I compared MM to Creep - the crunchy distorty guitar thing that Jonny does right before the chorus. It's like what Johnny does before the chorus in Creep. Totally superficial, I know. kthxbai...remember that we all love music. :)

[The Doctor]

..I think I like the live version of it better.

I think the same, Jonny's guitar sounds better there :\

but this song is so. I don't know what I feel. it's just so energetic and new. but I like it. I really like the new sound :cheesy:

[Adam84]

I have to say the studio version grabs me much more than the live one. Love the effect on Chris' voice, which I think fits the theme of media representation/papparazzi/disguising of the truth that the song talks about. Dark, thrilling and an awesome guitar solo. Top notch.

[Major_Love]

I have to say the studio version grabs me much more than the live one. Love the effect on Chris' voice, which I think fits the theme of media representation/papparazzi/disguising of the truth that the song talks about. Dark, thrilling and an awesome guitar solo. Top notch.

I agree! ;)

[Fix42YellowClocks]

Just popping in to clarify why I compared MM to Creep - the crunchy distorty guitar thing that Jonny does right before the chorus. It's like what Johnny does before the chorus in Creep. Totally superficial, I know. kthxbai...remember that we all love music. :)

No. I mean I see it. Similar sound. Johnny G's goes. ja-ja...ja-ja. And Jonny B's goes. ja-ja-ja-ja without the pause. Great riff though either way.

[Crests]

violet4lyf

[Violet]

Thanks, Tammi. :hug:

[The Duke]

I don't dislike the kind of sound MM is bringing, I just think it's waaaay to repetitive and the solo that is the second half of the song doesn't thrill me.

[Coldplay3277]

I don't dislike the kind of sound MM is bringing, I just think it's waaaay to repetitive and the solo that is the second half of the song doesn't thrill me.

and ETIAW isn't repeative? jesus! towards the end its just over n over again

but the song is kinda growing on me...still dont like it thou lol

[The Duke]

and ETIAW isn't repeative? jesus! towards the end its just over n over again

but the song is kinda growing on me...still dont like it thou lol

I like the 2nd half free flow of ETIAW better than MM, and lyrically ETIAW is much better to me.

[The Final Track]

lyrically ETIAW is much better to me.

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[rafaelchampion]

I don't know if MM is the edge they were looking for but of course it's the edge I was looking for.

[viva la justin]

I don't know if MM is the edge they were looking for but of course it's the edge I was looking for.

YES, so much yes.

For me it's a continuation (not literally) of COL from Viva - LOVE both. Quite different songs but similar sounds, imo at least.

[Blue Nails]

I don't know if MM is the edge they were looking for but of course it's the edge I was looking for.

This this this :awesome:

[letdown]

it's probably not the edge they were looking for, as it reminds quite a bit of people of radiohead (for me, esp. hail to the thief), and last time chris apparently really disliked being compared to RH and modified 42 or whatever that song was off VLV, no?

in any case. i like this song. i can't stand ETIAW

[Mark]

It hasn't got that much edge, really. It's very U2-lite, and doesn't remind me much of Radiohead, especially HTTT-era.

I agree that ETIAW is better. People are being unnecessarily harsh to that song :(

[Major_Love]

I don't know if MM is the edge they were looking for but of course it's the edge I was looking for.

Agree. ;)

[ColdplayingfromKansas]

lyrically ETIAW is much better to me.

D:


I'm reading 1984 by George Orwell and the song is making so much more sense now :nod:

Actually, I would recommend 1984 to anyone who hasn't read it before--I love it :D Thank God for AP English!

[blankshore]

Wow, I guess I'm the odd one out, here. In my opinion the song absolutely does not have the edge the band is looking for and the main guitar riff and vocal effect is the only thing the song has going for it :p

It's just so obvious, musically. I like the lyrics, I like Chris' snarly vocals, I like the opening riff. But for some reason it just doesn't come together to me in a meaningful way. It sounds insincere and too radio-friendly for its own good. I think this is supposed to be a really angry song, but for some reason they're holding something back. It's not terrible, it just sounds unfinished. Like a rough draft of a potentially awesome song. Definitely my least favorite song from these sessions.

EDIT: Also, I'm kind of surprised at the Radiohead comparisons. I don't hear it (and I fancy myself quite the Radiohead fan ;) )

[Skin&Bones]

^
I agree. Major Minus lacks the edge for me because it doesn't have any loudness. It's not... I guess I could say 'badass'. The drums keep a spineless and subdued beat and don't compliment any of Jonny's awesome guitar work. It seems like Coldplay quells their visceral emotions by hiding behind effects and extra production.

I'm not trying to say it's a bad song. I think it's fun! But I'm just feel like it doesn't have that edge.

May I say that in the live version when Jonny's guitar solo is about to start at the end, Chris's build up at 3:35 with the "AHHHHHHHHHHHHH" makes my hair stand on end. Coldplay - Major Minus (LIVE @ Rock am Ring 2011) (04.06.11) (NEW SONG!) (HQ 16:9) - YouTube It's epic!! If this song was approached with the AROBTTH sound, it'd be a huge hit! The Live version is sooooo great.

[Blue Nails]

Nah, it's way too Coldplayish to be compared to Radiohead.

To me the guitar isn't loud enough live. On the studio version it's Jonny who carries the song, live it's Chris. I like it better with MOAR GUITARRR.

And I do think it's pretty edgy and dark, but I seem the only one. Dark for a Coldplay song I mean. So, more like twilight. :rolleyes:
It's a paranoid song.

[Major_Love]

Right now I listen to Major Minus under earphones and listen to that bass and this vocal effect and I simply love it. Thanks for sharing this song with us, Coldplay!

[Blue Nails]

Bump. Just wanted to say that I'm happy this one made it to the album.

[rafaelchampion]

Me too

[eetjebeetje]

Me too! Absolutely LOVE it!

[StarFire]

It would was far better in the live version, but is my favorite out of the major minus, moving to mars, and every teardrop is a waterfall

[freezingcoldplay]

I find the thread title amusing. My first thought upon hearing this song was that it sounded like it featured "The Edge" (U2).

Was the OP making a joke? I don't have time to read the thread...

[Cletus Van Damme]

How does it have a Radiohead sound to it? I basically find it more U2 ish than anything.

Agreed. U2 circa 85-89.