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nvdmm
16-06-2011, 05:10 PM
i think out of all the new stuff we've heard so far, Major Minus is the best track by a MILEEEE. and it totally reminds me of AROBTTH.

but today they announced the song will be a B-side to ETIAW when its released on 26th June.:confused: this news has certainly made me depressed. i cannot believe such a brilliant song is considered a B-side. what do you guys think then? will it even have a slight chance of being on the album. :cry:

Coldplaying@Hogwarts
16-06-2011, 05:31 PM
OH GOD I HOPE NOT.

IT'S MY FAVORITE COLDPLAY SONG EVER AND I CAN'T HANDLE IT JUST BEING A B-SIDE.

IT WAS GONNA BE THE TITLE TRACK.... :bomb:

WS
16-06-2011, 05:49 PM
WHAT?!

They are joking,they are joking,they are joking... :|

Shit,ETIAW should be a B-side of Major Minus,not Major Minus a b-side

lutzno
16-06-2011, 06:09 PM
if its released and you get to hear it whenever you want, why do you care if its on the album or not. if it isnt, that just means there is space for another song. more coldplay = more :)

r25d01
16-06-2011, 06:13 PM
Could also be a double A-Side

Hartroc
16-06-2011, 06:13 PM
if its released and you get to hear it whenever you want, why do you care if its on the album or not. if it isnt, that just means there is space for another song. more coldplay = more :)

Exactly...and if Coldplay feel they can just through THIS incredible track away, the actual album is going to be AMAZING.

*MX*ColdplayObsess3d
16-06-2011, 06:26 PM
^ TRUE DAT!!!

Just think: If MM is this great and it's gonna be a B-Side, LP5 is gonna be so good, we won't even be able to put it into words :awesome:

an angel
16-06-2011, 06:38 PM
Their B-sides tend to be a lot better than actual album tracks, so go figure.

an angel
16-06-2011, 06:38 PM
dp

juguy
16-06-2011, 06:40 PM
if its released and you get to hear it whenever you want, why do you care if its on the album or not. if it isnt, that just means there is space for another song. more coldplay = more :)

this

Juanma
16-06-2011, 06:44 PM
We're releasing a new song called Major Minus on Monday 27 June. It'll be on the Every Teardrop CD and 7" singles (and iTunes) PH

Imke
16-06-2011, 06:44 PM
Thread moved. :)
There is now a whole section dedicated to LP5 and the new songs, please make use of that so that the main section won't become too packed. Thank you. :)

illuvcoldplay
16-06-2011, 06:46 PM
I am just waiting patiently for the release :)

Cobalt
16-06-2011, 06:47 PM
^ TRUE DAT!!!

Just think: If MM is this great and it's gonna be a B-Side, LP5 is gonna be so good, we won't even be able to put it into words :awesome:
Or they just want us to think that before their album massively bombs! :awsm:

illuvcoldplay
16-06-2011, 06:52 PM
even if its not we'll still have the awesome single and additional tracks :dance:

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-06-2011, 07:24 PM
ETIAW should be a B-side of Major Minus, not Major Minus a b-side

THIS.

GTskilled
16-06-2011, 08:11 PM
So guys, please, please, please help me out:

Here in Germany they will release a CD on June 27th with Every Teardrop AND Major Minus? Right? Worldwide on 27th?

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-06-2011, 08:34 PM
So guys, please, please, please help me out:

Here in Germany they will release a CD on June 27th with Every Teardrop AND Major Minus? Right? Worldwide on 27th?


I don't know about a physical CD, but you will be able to download it digitally via iTunes

TyM218
16-06-2011, 08:36 PM
I'm still not a fan, it's a weird sounding song. I like all of the other new songs over this one. I'll probably still get it, but I really wish it was another song.

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-06-2011, 08:42 PM
I'm still not a fan, it's a weird sounding song. I like all of the other new songs over this one. I'll probably still get it, but I really wish it was another song.


Is this Major Minus that you're talking about, or ETiaW? :thinking:

'Cause Major Minus is awesome :awesome:

TyM218
16-06-2011, 08:45 PM
Is this Major Minus that you're talking about, or ETiaW? :thinking:

'Cause Major Minus is awesome :awesome:

Nope. I don't like major minus.

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-06-2011, 08:46 PM
Nope. I don't like major minus.


Why not, if I may ask? :nice:

TyM218
16-06-2011, 08:51 PM
I dunno, really. I just haven't liked it since I first heard it. I will give it the benefit of the doubt since I have only listened to it twice, but still haven't quite liked it. Perhaps I will when the studio version comes out, but the live version just sounded too weird. Jonny's guitar was just drowned in reverb, which kind of takes away from the acoustic guitar too. And the vocal melodies, just don't sit well with me.

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-06-2011, 08:59 PM
^ Ah, okay. Jonny's guitar is awesome, but I agree it could be toned down a bit to bring out the rest of the instruments

TyM218
16-06-2011, 09:02 PM
Again, not saying I hate the song. I thought 42 was weird the first few times I listened to the album. I may warm up to it.

lutzno
16-06-2011, 09:17 PM
i still prefer hurts like heaven, charlie brown, us against the world, all above major minus. just saying

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-06-2011, 09:21 PM
Yeah, 42 was interesting :laugh4:

Major_Love
16-06-2011, 11:02 PM
Yeah, 42 was interesting :laugh4:

I really loved 42! One of the best songs of VLV in my opinion. Does that mean, that I will like MM? :P

ColdplayingfromKansas
16-06-2011, 11:05 PM
I really loved 42! One of the best songs of VLV in my opinion. Does that mean, that I will like MM? :P

But of course! :D

Major_Love
16-06-2011, 11:07 PM
Fine! :D Can't wait, just looking straight forwards! :D

DundahMifflin
16-06-2011, 11:52 PM
^ TRUE DAT!!!

Just think: If MM is this great and it's gonna be a B-Side, LP5 is gonna be so good, we won't even be able to put it into words :awesome:

Never thought about that, but this is true. If great songs like these are "throw-aways", I suspect LP5 to be really good.

Brent
17-06-2011, 01:14 AM
I bet MM will still be on the album. Aside from the fact that it's totally awesome:

Coldplay loves to put motifs and thematic elements into their albums. (Like Space stuff in X&Y, Feet touching the ground/revolution in Viva, etc).

Judging by some of the imagery and lyrics we've gotten so far, one such theme in LP5 will be that of eyes/media attention etc. The lyrics for MM "You got one eye watching you/one eye watching you so..." match that theme. Also, in the picture that Coldplay put on their twitter (in the banner above) there's a giant graffiti eye in the "ETIAW" video.

It just makes sense. I think this is mirroring what they did for Viva, where they released a so-so successful "Violet Hill" then "VLV" which did significantly better.

Whatever they're doing here, I know the end product is going to be awesome, even though we're all super confused and bewildered now.

ColdplayingfromKansas
17-06-2011, 02:00 PM
I bet MM will still be on the album. Aside from the fact that it's totally awesome:

Coldplay loves to put motifs and thematic elements into their albums. (Like Space stuff in X&Y, Feet touching the ground/revolution in Viva, etc).

Judging by some of the imagery and lyrics we've gotten so far, one such theme in LP5 will be that of eyes/media attention etc. The lyrics for MM "You got one eye watching you/one eye watching you so..." match that theme. Also, in the picture that Coldplay put on their twitter (in the banner above) there's a giant graffiti eye in the "ETIAW" video.

It just makes sense. I think this is mirroring what they did for Viva, where they released a so-so successful "Violet Hill" then "VLV" which did significantly better.

Whatever they're doing here, I know the end product is going to be awesome, even though we're all super confused and bewildered now.


Well said! I agree with everything except the bit about the theme for LP5, which I think may be more along the lines of Viva--rebelling and such (especially since Chris mentioned that they drew inspiration from the White Rose Movement). But I do like your interpretation too--maybe we're both partially right? :shrug:

Osaka Sun
17-06-2011, 02:42 PM
If Major Minus is not on the album I will go insane.

Nah, just kidding, but still. :bigcry:

ohyesitslaura
17-06-2011, 07:11 PM
Their B-sides tend to be a lot better than actual album tracks, so go figure.

I could not agree more! Their B-sides are just so amazing. I usually feel like they should have taken the B-sides and made that the album.
MAYBE it's a b-side because it just doesn't fit right with the other songs because it's so good?

DundahMifflin
17-06-2011, 07:38 PM
I could not agree more! Their B-sides are just so amazing. I usually feel like they should have taken the B-sides and made that the album.
MAYBE it's a b-side because it just doesn't fit right with the other songs because it's so good?

I adore Coldplay's B-sides. Especially, though, the AROBTTH-era.

Brent
17-06-2011, 07:54 PM
Well said! I agree with everything except the bit about the theme for LP5, which I think may be more along the lines of Viva--rebelling and such (especially since Chris mentioned that they drew inspiration from the White Rose Movement). But I do like your interpretation too--maybe we're both partially right? :shrug:

Well they always have a TON of themes/motifs/etc. in all of their albums. That's how they always seem to be tightly-wound, complete works that are near perfection.

I also think a theme will be a rebellious one, but the imagery I think will be based on a big-brother type of thing, with all the eyes and "Major Minus Media."

Maybe they're implying rebelliousness against that big brother type of thing. Isn't that what graffiti is, anyway?

SO I think we're both right. Can't wait :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

ColdplayingfromKansas
17-06-2011, 07:54 PM
I adore Coldplay's B-sides. Especially, though, the AROBTTH-era.


This.

I Ran Away, Animals, I Bloom Blaum, One I Love, Murder = :heart:

In fact, the only b-sides I care about that aren't from the A Rush Of Blood era are Help Is 'Round The Corner, Gravity, and A Spell A Rebel Yell

ColdplayingfromKansas
17-06-2011, 07:57 PM
Well they always have a TON of themes/motifs/etc. in all of their albums. That's how they always seem to be tightly-wound, complete works that are near perfection.

I also think a theme will be a rebellious one, but the imagery I think will be based on a big-brother type of thing, with all the eyes and "Major Minus Media."

Maybe they're implying rebelliousness against that big brother type of thing. Isn't that what graffiti is, anyway?

SO I think we're both right. Can't wait :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


So in other words . . . they're rebelling against the media and higher society in general?:wink3:

I always love songs/albums/books/movies that carry a 'well, what have we got to lose' vibe . . . hopefully LP5 will show some of that! :dance:

Coldplay3277
17-06-2011, 08:00 PM
nobody likes Moses? thats like my fav. B-Side song, soo good O_O

Coldplay3277
17-06-2011, 08:02 PM
I could not agree more! Their B-sides are just so amazing. I usually feel like they should have taken the B-sides and made that the album.
MAYBE it's a b-side because it just doesn't fit right with the other songs because it's so good?

so good? -.- explain ETIAW... id take MM over that song anyday :dozey:

Brent
17-06-2011, 08:05 PM
So in other words . . . they're rebelling against the media and higher society in general?:wink3:

I always love songs/albums/books/movies that carry a 'well, what have we got to lose' vibe . . . hopefully LP5 will show some of that! :dance:

Yeah, that's what I'm sayin' :D

LP5 will definitely show some of that! I totally know what you're talking about it. I think that's why Viva sounds so risky and honest in my opinion.

Brent
17-06-2011, 08:07 PM
nobody likes Moses? thats like my fav. B-Side song, soo good O_O

Moses is my favorite too!

I know it's random... but I really like "The Goldrush," and I'm not sure why haha.

I also love the ollldddd one from the Yellow EP: "No More Keeping My Feet On the Ground."

Humma
17-06-2011, 08:20 PM
I think that ETIAW and MM are maybe the "odd ones" and don't fit in the album- that sounds like a good reason.

Tryptophan
17-06-2011, 08:21 PM
What the hell? Seriously, does this mean that crap like ETIAW will fill the album, while their best songs like Major Minus will be left out as ordinary B-sides? What a huge disappointment.

Also, no Major Minus as album title, whatever it will be, it won't be half as good as we thought it would be.

This makes me think 3 things:

1. They are the best band in the world but paradoxically seem to have no taste in good music (anymore). How on earth could they like superficial shit like ETIAW more than Major Minus?

or

2. They are going for a more immature audience, leaving their old fans behind. They don't care what we think. Everybody will think about Coldplay as just another pop band and they will love or hate Coldplay for all the wrong reasons. While Coldplay are (used to be) instead a great deep mature alternative band. I was too young to be fully into their old more mature mature music 10 years ago. Now that I'm slowly turning adult, they seem to make the reverse movement.

and/or, most likely:

3. Now that Major Minus is a B-side, they know that fans who don't like ETIAW will buy the single because of the B-side. Few people will dislike both songs. Ka-ching.

EDIT: ^that also makes sense

Corkus
17-06-2011, 08:22 PM
GUYS.

We DON'T KNOW if "Major Minus" will be a double A-side or merely a B-side. Double A-sides before full album releases happen ALL THE TIME. Don't freak out.

:)

Tryptophan
17-06-2011, 08:27 PM
GUYS.

We DON'T KNOW if "Major Minus" will be a double A-side or merely a B-side. Double A-sides before full album releases happen ALL THE TIME. Don't freak out.

:)

Hey, what if we just WANT to freak out about the littlest things :wink3:

Corkus
17-06-2011, 08:29 PM
Hey, what if we just WANT to freak out about the littlest things :wink3:
I wouldn't expect anything less from the Coldplay fanbase. ;)

the_escapist
17-06-2011, 09:17 PM
I really don't think it would or should be on the album.

Don't want to buy the same song twice.

ColdplayingfromKansas
17-06-2011, 10:04 PM
I wouldn't expect anything less from the Coldplay fanbase. ;)


:laugh4: You hit the nail on the head with that one :awesome: It's pretty much our job to overreact to the tiniest little things

ColdplayingfromKansas
17-06-2011, 10:07 PM
Don't want to buy the same song twice.


I don't think you'll have to :thinking: On all of Coldplay's other digital single releases, you're able to buy the b-side separately from the single (even if Major Minus isn't a b-side, iTunes also has the Complete My Album feature which should let you buy the entire album for a discount without Waterfall)

Coldplayer1317
17-06-2011, 10:41 PM
What the hell? Seriously, does this mean that crap like ETIAW will fill the album, while their best songs like Major Minus will be left out as ordinary B-sides? What a huge disappointment.

Also, no Major Minus as album title, whatever it will be, it won't be half as good as we thought it would be.

This makes me think 3 things:

1. They are the best band in the world but paradoxically seem to have no taste in good music (anymore). How on earth could they like superficial shit like ETIAW more than Major Minus?

or

2. They are going for a more immature audience, leaving their old fans behind. They don't care what we think. Everybody will think about Coldplay as just another pop band and they will love or hate Coldplay for all the wrong reasons. While Coldplay are (used to be) instead a great deep mature alternative band. I was too young to be fully into their old more mature mature music 10 years ago. Now that I'm slowly turning adult, they seem to make the reverse movement.

and/or, most likely:

3. Now that Major Minus is a B-side, they know that fans who don't like ETIAW will buy the single because of the B-side. Few people will dislike both songs. Ka-ching.

EDIT: ^that also makes sense

major minus its clearly not a b side, if it was one, the single would be called ETIAW and not ETIAW / MAJOR MINUS, besides the fact the lyrics of major minus are printed all over coldplay instruments / clothes , I think its a single, the ACTUALL first single for the new album, ETIAW will stand alone as chrismas lights did, and the extra tracks of next week will actually be the b sides, i mean, if the single is for ETIAW , the others songs shouldnt be important at all, but they said as something special MM is being released, but the other songs were not promoted, or mentioned, i belive no ETIAW in the album, and that MM is the single, all the other new ones are in the album, maybe one not, maybe they will take out us against the world or something...

ohyesitslaura
17-06-2011, 11:27 PM
This.

I Ran Away, Animals, I Bloom Blaum, One I Love, Murder = :heart:

In fact, the only b-sides I care about that aren't from the A Rush Of Blood era are Help Is 'Round The Corner, Gravity, and A Spell A Rebel Yell

I disagree, I think their pre-parachutes and between parachutes and AROBTTH are the best. For You? That song cannot be beat. :)

ohyesitslaura
17-06-2011, 11:30 PM
so good? -.- explain ETIAW... id take MM over that song anyday :dozey:

That's true, I really don't like ETIAW but we have to take the good with the bad. It's too... entertaining. Not as musical as their old stuff. **fingers crossed that LP5 has more songs like MM and HLH**

Major_Love
17-06-2011, 11:55 PM
Sorry Coldplay1317...but some things cannot be true. So, if MM is the first single of the new album and ETIAW is just a standalone one, why Major Minus isn't mentioned on the cover? Sorry, but they would promote MM more if its really the first single of the new LP.

Violet
18-06-2011, 04:11 AM
:laugh4: You hit the nail on the head with that one :awesome: It's pretty much our job to overreact to the tiniest little things

:|

-shakes head-

Coldplay3277
20-06-2011, 01:05 AM
major minus its clearly not a b side, if it was one, the single would be called ETIAW and not ETIAW / MAJOR MINUS, besides the fact the lyrics of major minus are printed all over coldplay instruments / clothes , I think its a single, the ACTUALL first single for the new album, ETIAW will stand alone as chrismas lights did, and the extra tracks of next week will actually be the b sides, i mean, if the single is for ETIAW , the others songs shouldnt be important at all, but they said as something special MM is being released, but the other songs were not promoted, or mentioned, i belive no ETIAW in the album, and that MM is the single, all the other new ones are in the album, maybe one not, maybe they will take out us against the world or something...

I seriously pray your right :(

Brent
20-06-2011, 01:16 AM
^I think that's right. It's the same thing they did right after Violet Hill last time with Viva La Vida.

Plus, I think Lost! was released as a B-side with Violet Hill. Unless I'm mistaken?

admnistramation
20-06-2011, 01:36 AM
If it were the first single on the album, then Major Minus wouldn't be included with ETIAW, rather on its own. I think ETIAW is just a preview EP and they'll both be included on the album.

Jack Bauer
20-06-2011, 02:58 AM
This.

I Ran Away, Animals, I Bloom Blaum, One I Love, Murder = :heart:

In fact, the only b-sides I care about that aren't from the A Rush Of Blood era are Help Is 'Round The Corner, Gravity, and A Spell A Rebel Yell

Uh, Thing I Don't Understand, Proof, How You See The World, Pour Me, Sleeping Sun, or Death Will Never Conquer? Some of the best Coldplay songs to date.

oldmuckers
20-06-2011, 03:15 AM
Uh, Thing I Don't Understand, Proof, How You See The World, Pour Me, Sleeping Sun, or Death Will Never Conquer? Some of the best Coldplay songs to date.

Things I Don't Understand... love it! Would have been amazing on X&Y... but in place of what track? A conversation for another thread I guess.

Juanma
20-06-2011, 03:25 AM
Things I Don't Understand... love it! Would have been amazing on X&Y... but in place of what track? A conversation for another thread I guess.

I agree,love that song.

Should have been ..

in place of Low? :uhoh:

DundahMifflin
20-06-2011, 03:26 AM
Moses is my favorite too!

I know it's random... but I really like "The Goldrush," and I'm not sure why haha.

I also love the ollldddd one from the Yellow EP: "No More Keeping My Feet On the Ground."

I love No More Keeping My Feet On The Ground. It fits in my list of favorite B-sides: Such A Rush, Murder, The Goldrush, Animals, Proof, I Ran Away, Moses and I Bloom Blaum.

w1ll1am7
20-06-2011, 04:42 AM
I agree,love that song.

Should have been ..

in place of Low? :uhoh:

Low doesn't get enough credit. one of my favorites from X&Y!

Chloe_Martin
20-06-2011, 04:53 AM
^ same!

ColdplayingfromKansas
20-06-2011, 02:28 PM
Uh, Thing I Don't Understand, Proof, How You See The World, Pour Me, Sleeping Sun, or Death Will Never Conquer? Some of the best Coldplay songs to date.

Oops, forgot Things I Don't Understand :P

Proof is alright, HYStW isn't all that bad, I really don't like Pour Me for some reason :/ Sleeping Sun is fine, and the live versions of DWNC aren't bad either :cool:

But they still aren't among my favorites :D

coldplayisawesome
20-06-2011, 03:22 PM
I agree,love that song.

Should have been ..

in place of Fix You? :uhoh:

i agree. :whistle: :P

Tryptophan
20-06-2011, 04:10 PM
i agree. :whistle: :P

I'm not particularly fond of Fix You either... Thought I was the only one. Maybe it's the organ-like keyboard sound, or the fact that it's a bit cheesy, or both. Great live song though.

ColdplayingfromKansas
20-06-2011, 04:13 PM
^ :uhoh: I think I would've liked it more if Chris had used a piano instead of an organ (and added that little line of notes that he sometimes plays after live performances), but meh. I still love it :P

Cleggy
20-06-2011, 05:04 PM
The Oracle said that one of her favourite of the new songs is Major Minus (as well as Princess of China). I'm not sure whether this means it'll be on the album or not though.

Alien Radio
20-06-2011, 05:17 PM
^She said it's her favourite song of the new songs played on festivals. She didn't say it's her favourite from LP5.

ColdplayingfromKansas
20-06-2011, 07:30 PM
^ Sneaky, sneaky Oracle :lol:

coldplayisawesome
20-06-2011, 10:42 PM
I'm not particularly fond of Fix You either... Thought I was the only one. Maybe it's the organ-like keyboard sound, or the fact that it's a bit cheesy, or both. Great live song though.

it's not terrible, but it's my least favorite Coldplay song. :P
i don't know what it is about it... it just doesn't float my boat, i guess. i do think Chris sounds wonderful in the studio version, though.

Coldplayer1317
20-06-2011, 10:55 PM
I did a major minus piano cover! :)

YouTube - ‪[HQ] Coldplay - Major Minus (New Song) Piano Cover‬‏

rafaelchampion
21-06-2011, 01:04 PM
BOOOOOOOOM!

Q. Hello, Oracle
Please answer me, this is like my seventh question, and this time I'm sure it's not illogical.
I read that Major Minus is gonna be released as a B-side of ETIAW. I think that Major Minus is a beautiful song, and is a track that must be on the album. But I obviously know that B-sides are usually not included on other albums than special editions. Is it going to be included on the album?

You raise a good point. I must admit I thought the same as historically you're correct; b sides haven't appeared on the album.
All I can say is that there have been even more changes to how things (and what) are released since the last album so I wouldn't rule it out.
That said, I swear I don't know the final track listing of the album and as you already know what I am about to say... even if I did, I couldn't provide the definitive answer to your question.

SO
Things Have Changed
Major Minus ON THE ALBUM AGAIN
:dance::pleased:

ColdplayingfromKansas
21-06-2011, 01:48 PM
I think the Oracle unknowingly answered our question with that abstract answer :P

rafaelchampion
21-06-2011, 03:00 PM
Yes. The question was not mine at all, but he answered without wanting that!! HAHAHA

Cleggy
21-06-2011, 06:25 PM
That Oracle question suggests that Major Minus is indeed a B-side and not a double A-side as some people have suggested.

Coldplayer1317
21-06-2011, 06:45 PM
that "and what" makes me belive he is pointing b-sides might me released....

ColdplayingfromKansas
21-06-2011, 10:56 PM
:lol: Just so everyone knows, the Oracle is a she (and there's two of them) :P

ladypro615
22-06-2011, 04:14 AM
Their B-sides tend to be a lot better than actual album tracks, so go figure.
True true!
even if its not we'll still have the awesome single and additional tracks :dance:

And this is a good way to look at it :D

Juanma
22-06-2011, 04:24 AM
MTM New sonG

TwistedPolitik
22-06-2011, 04:30 AM
It's a double A-side with ETIAW and MM

TwistedPolitik
22-06-2011, 04:30 AM
So MM will probably be on the album as well as ETIAW

Coldplayer1317
22-06-2011, 05:10 AM
New Coldplay Song Called Moving to Mars to be released in ETIAW EP (yes, its an EP, not a single...)

coldplay♪♫♪
22-06-2011, 02:19 PM
Such a case was previously? Was lost? In B-SIDE of VIOLET HILL

Osaka Sun
23-06-2011, 05:17 AM
If MM is not on the album...

YouTube - ‪The Schrute Scream‬‏

:bigcry:

ColdplayingfromKansas
23-06-2011, 02:47 PM
^ :heart: The Office FTW!