Plagiarism

[empark]

YouTube - ‪Coldplay - Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall (Official)‬‏


YouTube - ‪MYSTIC - Ritmo de la Noche - Simon Cowell‬‏

[Tandem]

BLATANT plagiarism at that. It's literally the exact same sounding beat.

[Dan 6N]

That riff is exactly the same :\

[carkids]

i hope they have a permission for that!! omg coldplay im so worried :/

[icedude2010]

Yeah but it's not as creepy as that song...

[djibou]

Guys, that spanish band sampled I Go To Rio by Peter Allen, just like Coldplay did. The two original song didn't plagiarize, they got the permission, kthanks.

[1der]

Guys, that spanish band sampled I Go To Rio by Peter Allen, just like Coldplay did. The two original song didn't plagiarize, they got the permission, kthanks.

Indeed!

[Dan 6N]

Guys, that spanish band sampled I Go To Rio by Peter Allen, just like Coldplay did. The two original song didn't plagiarize, they got the permission, kthanks.

Phew!

[woohoo37]

Why do they need to sample?? I hate when bands do it. Just leave to the unoriginal hiphop tits.

[Famous Old Painter]

I don't care if they got permission or not, it still sounds exactly the same. At least with Talk it was only a riff. This time it's pretty much the whole song. Why did they even bother writing new words?

[thespy]

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[Italian Plastic]

Why do they need to sample?? I hate when bands do it. Just leave to the unoriginal hiphop tits.

WOW you really are an idiot!

[hotdensestate]

not plagiarism, just unoriginality

[woohoo37]

I don't care if they got permission or not, it still sounds exactly the same. At least with Talk it was only a riff. This time it's pretty much the whole song. Why did they even bother writing new words?

Yep and it would appear that Chris has tried to write the words around the tune - which is why the lyrics are so poor.

[hotdensestate]

WOW you really are an idiot!

and that

[woohoo37]

WOW you really are an idiot!

Italian Spastic.

[Aleluvscp]

Oh no.. they're gonna get their asses sued once again.

They really should've been a lot more careful with that this time around :\

[QuazarSyy27]

PHEW! I was really worried there for a second

[Keddie]

Nope they won't get sued since the obviously got permission.
They credited the original writers of the riff on their website. Why would they do that if they didn't get permission? w0w you guys are dumb...........

[Wherrwhfer]

Italian Spastic.

what

[woohoo37]

what

He called me a idiot twice. Once was enough but even then that was uncalled for. Don't agree with me then fine - put your point across or just saying nothing.

[Wherrwhfer]

But he's so right :(

[m.rogo86@gmx.de]

they blew my mind with the single but i thought exactly the same....ritmo de la noche!

[tedwinder]

From coldplay.com discography page:

"Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall contains elements of I Go To Rio written by Peter Allen and Adrienne Anderson"

[howyousawtheworld]

I've seen 4 songs now posted on twitter and the net of similar sounding songs! I have to admit I found it hilarious. Not this again! Again I don't think Coldplay would ever consciously plagiarise anyone. :laugh3:

[icecoldplay]

"Life In Technicolor" had a sample
"Talk" also made use of a sample.

Come on guys...how can you be upset about this? For years Coldplay has been taking conventional (or previously used) melodies and turning them into much better songs. Lack of creativity? Okay, make a better song off a sample -- I dare you!

[m.rogo86@gmx.de]

me, too! thanks to tedwinder!

[m.rogo86@gmx.de]

im not upset...the single is just great ;)

[Odvan]

"Life In Technicolor" had a sample
"Talk" also made use of a sample.

Come on guys...how can you be upset about this? For years Coldplay has been taking conventional (or previously used) melodies and turning them into much better songs. Lack of creativity? Okay, make a better song off a sample -- I dare you!
LiT is a intro.
Talk has the same motive but different sound.


What f*cking years of borrowing are you talking about? Because 2 song out of 50 has samples?

[woohoo37]

"Life In Technicolor" had a sample
"Talk" also made use of a sample.

Come on guys...how can you be upset about this? For years Coldplay has been taking conventional (or previously used) melodies and turning them into much better songs. Lack of creativity? Okay, make a better song off a sample -- I dare you!

Neither made up the spine of the song or were the big comeback single but to be honest that's not my only issue with ETIAW.

I don't see why if they like a melody or riff - just take that, play around with it and make it their own.

[icecoldplay]

LiT is a intro.
Talk has the same motive but different sound.


What f*cking years of borrowing are you talking about? Because 2 song out of 50 has samples?

They've noted it themselves. They may not directly sample to the point of crediting an artist, but they have definitely been HEAVILY influenced by other songs since day one. Again, they've said it themselves, that they are always taking bits and pieces from other places and making it into their own. It's not plagiarism, it's what true geniuses do -- act like a sponge of sorts and make their final product a combination of their own creativity and all things around them. That's a definition of genius that I have held long before I ever listened to a Coldplay record.

And relax! I think we're on the same side, here. Pro-Coldplay, that is.

[icecoldplay]

Neither made up the spine of the song or were the big comeback single but to be honest that's not my only issue with ETIAW.

I don't see why if they like a melody or riff - just take that, play around with it and make it their own.

"Talk" was completely built around the lead melody from "Computer Love".

[woohoo37]

"Talk" was completely built around the lead melody from "Computer Love".

I thought it was just the Riff. Well I never liked that song anyway at least the album version. I liked the leaked version best.

[thespy]

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[Lexis]

So eh, I listened to "I Go To Rio" and I can't seem to find where they took some elements. Can someone point it out in this vid (seconds):
YouTube - ‪Peter Allen - I go to Rio‬‏

[woohoo37]

So eh, I listened to "I Go To Rio" and I can't seem to find where they took some elements. Can someone point it out in this vid


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwax ;)

[Lexis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwax ;)

Haha, well that's not it. I did listen to the Mystic video, and that similarity is kind of obvious, but I don't get it with I go to rio...

[shanew21]

Haha, well that's not it. I did listen to the Mystic video, and that similarity is kind of obvious, but I don't get it with I go to rio...
It's the opening riff. The piano part

[djibou]

^Yes.

They've noted it themselves. They may not directly sample to the point of crediting an artist, but they have definitely been HEAVILY influenced by other songs since day one. Again, they've said it themselves, that they are always taking bits and pieces from other places and making it into their own. It's not plagiarism, it's what true geniuses do -- act like a sponge of sorts and make their final product a combination of their own creativity and all things around them. That's a definition of genius that I have held long before I ever listened to a Coldplay record.

And relax! I think we're on the same side, here. Pro-Coldplay, that is.

I don't think it's a genius thing to do, I think it takes much more creativity to create something ompletely new that you thought of yourself, but that's my opinion.
Also, if you start categorizing people with pro-coldplay and anti-coldplay, you'll start a war. It's not because some people criticize the song that they are anti-Coldplay.

"Talk" was completely built around the lead melody from "Computer Love".

I thought it was just the Riff. Well I never liked that song anyway at least the album version. I liked the leaked version best.

You are right, it is just the riff, the chord progression isn't the same, the melody Chris sings during the verses and the break have nothing to do with Computer Love :nod:.

[neonhorn22]

There are only so many different rhythms, chord progressions, and melodic lines...etc....pretty soon they'll all be recycled. It's all been done at this point. Hard to be original at this point. What separates them all are the lyrics.

ETA: I hadn't heard of "Ritmo de la noche" or "I go to Rio" till I came to this site.

[MasoKnight]

I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on.

[TimeIsOnYourSide]

I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on.

this.


and can we close this thread now?

[neonhorn22]

I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on.

Yep. :) It's nice to know that a fellow Arkansan shares my PO\/!

[woohoo37]

I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on.

But the new single doesn't try and be fresh or new - it just tries to tick as many boxes as it can to appeal to the mass audience without having the balls to take any risks.

[icecoldplay]

^Yes.



I don't think it's a genius thing to do, I think it takes much more creativity to create something ompletely new that you thought of yourself, but that's my opinion.
Also, if you start categorizing people with pro-coldplay and anti-coldplay, you'll start a war. It's not because some people criticize the song that they are anti-Coldplay.





You are right, it is just the riff, the chord progression isn't the same, the melody Chris sings during the verses and the break have nothing to do with Computer Love :nod:.

I disagree. "Talk" is built around that riff. Of course there will be changes in other aspects of the song. The Computer Love riff is at the heart of the hook, and absolutely an inspiration for other parts of the song. I would be very surprised if the writing of that song did not start with the CL riff.

[JillyBlue]

this.


and can we close this thread now?

This.

I just downloaded ETIAW from Amazon and, when I play it in Windows Media Player, the composer shown is Adrienne Anderson. Obviously the composers of "I Go To Rio" are credited along with the band. So no plagiarism.

[Jaimex11]

it doesn't matter if is a copy or not....................IT SUCKS

[Technicolor Sparks]

:lock:

[woohoo37]

:lock:

That icon wouldn't look out of place in a Rihanna video lol

[QuazarSyy27]

Ok, end of. Close the thread now please. :D

[Reilly]

EDIT: My point made in this post had little to do with whether it was plagiarism or not so I'll make a new topic.

[Jony]

Wohhhh!! i didn't see this thread.... it's the same... incredible :stunned:

[Technicolor Sparks]

Wohhhh!! i didn't see this thread.... it's the same... incredible :stunned:

It's the same because they sampled it. The original composers are credited.

[Rabbit]

Aaah, I know it's sampled now but this makes me really sad.

In my own little world I thought Coldplay were original and that's why I liked them, obviously I was wrong. And yes, I know it's very hard to be original nowadays (there's the old "there's only so many notes on an instrument" argument) but you can at least try to think of something slightly new instead of using somebody else's riff.

:(

[Technicolor Sparks]

They sampled Jon Hopkin's "Light Through Veins" on the last album.

[Jony]

It's the same because they sampled it. The original composers are credited.

Thanks :D

[Debs Wild]

Bit disappointed. Haven't read past first post admittedly but for your info guys:

Chris was inspired to write Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall after hearing some chords in a nightclub scene in Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu's film Biutiful (2010).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biutiful

The chords in the film are part of a track that is based on "I Go To Rio" written by Peter Allen and Adrienne Anderson, released by Peter Allen in 1976.

YouTube it. It's way before the clip being banded around and... the song HAS credited the ORIGINAl composer (Allen, not the latter dance tune).

[icecoldplay]

Bit disappointed. Haven't read past first post admittedly but for your info guys:

Chris was inspired to write Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall after hearing some chords in a nightclub scene in Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu's film Biutiful (2010).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biutiful

The chords in the film are part of a track that is based on "I Go To Rio" written by Peter Allen and Adrienne Anderson, released by Peter Allen in 1976.

YouTube it. It's way before the clip being banded around and... the song HAS credited the ORIGINAl composer (Allen, not the latter dance tune).

Love that movie! Very awesome to read this.