LOTR - Return of the King [SPOILERS]

[rf_ucsd]

Uh, this movie rocked.


OK - alterior motive: Just start this thread.

I wanna talk about this movie ... but need people to talk with :(

As long as nobody mentions Iraq we'll be fine ;)

[Professor Peedston]

i saw it and it was pretty much exactly what i expected. just as visually stunning as the first two, and of course i already knew the plot, i just wanted to see how they'd tell it, because if i remember right, the second and third books are very non-linear (it's been a few years since reading them).

any complaints i have about it have more to do with the circumstances under which i saw it than with the movie itself. (i went to a midnight screening and had just watched the extended version of the two towers, so i'd just about had my fill of climactic battle scenes and dramatic death scenes, and by the time it ended, i was ready to sleep and it couldn't end soon enough)

[rf_ucsd]

I can't imagien taking part in that marathon of showings, but you have my admiration.

The visuals on some of the sceens were just inspriing. When Gandalf rides out from Minas Tirith to shield Faromir and his men from the Nasgoul riders on Fell Beast with that light from his staff ... that picture was just awesome ... brought a tear to me eye ... kinda.

The best: When Legolas single-handedly took down that Mamakil ... wow.

[StupidIntel]

I'm afrade to go... because I will cry... like a baby...

Oh, and if you're wondering, I read the book, 'tis why I came in here.

[Professor Peedston]

good :P

here's a weird little thing: i know people who haven't yet read the third book because they don't want to spoil the movie. i would think you'd rather do it the other way around, and not have the book ruined by seeing the movie, considering which came first, and which is ultimately more fulfilling.

[rf_ucsd]

I didn't read any of the books but will now. I wasn't into LotR until I saw the first movie, and since I heard the movies were pretty different from the books in some respects (i.e., Arwan), I'm going to consider the movies soething totally different from the books ...

... that said, I did start to cheat this summer and I read the first 11 chapters of LotR (e.g., I read about half of Fellowship). When the extended edition DVD of TTT came out and they had the homage of Old Man Willow, I was able to understand where that came from.

Having read when I did, I completely understand why Tom Bombadil wasn't in the movie. In the book he's cool and neat but for a movie he doesn't add anything.

Sometimes I wish I had readthe book before seeing the movies, but that just wasn't meant ot be. Essentially, I found the movies first.


Re: Crying ...

... a lot of people were crying by the end of the movie. A lot of them started their crying when Theodin died.

[StupidIntel]

I will cry.....










when I see the beautiful orlando!

[rf_ucsd]

Yeah ... when legolas gets decapitated, you might cry.

[StupidIntel]

:-p
Do they show him more in this movie than in the 2 towers?


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Do the hobits go back to hobiton and have that battle at the end???

[meggie1214]

i have tickets for tomorrow!! :D have read the books tho so i know what's in store. i have heard/read that they dont go back to hobbiton at the end of the film... an interview with the hobbit guys (wood, astin, monaghan, boyd) said none of them were really keen on doing it at that point. at any rate, can't wait to see it, ill have more comments tomorrow night.

[rf_ucsd]

Do they show Legolas more?

Not really. He pretty much plays the same role in scope. He has probably the most memorable point in the battle scene when he single-handedly takes down one of the Mamakil ... the effects for that sequence are remarkable.

But Bloom, as an actor, doesn't get to do much besides count. I mean this literally.

Do the hobbits go back?

Yes. The movie ends in hobbiton. Jackson spends an inordinate amount of time retracing them back to Hobitton ... HOWEVER, the Hobbitton they find IS NOT the Hobbitton depicted by Tolkien for their return. This Hobbitton is the Hobbitton they left: simple, scenic, and home.

No chains.

[StupidIntel]

That blows, ah well... I guess that doesn't really have much to do with the ring does it? ...it's almost like the tom b. part, just more exciting.

[rf_ucsd]

Yeah ... I think after the Ring is destroyed there's this pressure to end the movie ... the audience is exhuasted at that point and another storyline wouldn't work within this movie. Plus, Saruman is completely cut out, and you couldn't have the Hobbiton story without reintroducing Saruman.

One of the interesting moments of that small, post-Morodor epilogue had Frodo, Merry, Sam and Pippen sitting down for ale as we saw them in the first movie, only this time there was a resignation in their faces, a realization that what they'd been through had forever changed their Hobbiton. Looking around the room at everybody being hobbits, enjoying their food and ale, they're struck by the oblivious nature of Hobbitton. On one hand that seems endearing to them, but on the other it's a constant reminder. This is seen on Frodo's face most keenly, as Hobbitton is no longer home to him.

Going back to Mordor ... it was very cool to see the eagles featured more prominently in thsi movie. They appear at the end, but anybody who has read the Hobbit has probably been awiting for a meaningful appearance by the eagles. Well, you get it in RotK.

[StupidIntel]

Awesome, I can't wait! I remember when I saw the eagle in the first movie... I was all excited because of the eagle... everyone else was like, "did he just turn into a bird?" :dozey:

[soleil]

Great movie! I read the book and went to the movie theaters not expecting anything so that I wouldn't be dissapointed. And I wasn't! I liked the beacon part in the movie. Good cinematography. They left out some parts from the book, but it was ok because they kept most of the important parts of the story. And like Tom P. I was wondering how they would make the movie, b/c in the book they didn't talk about Frodo and Sam until halfway through the book. I thinked they merged all the plots of the story very well.
But you could tell that by the end of the movie, people were getting tired and wanted to leave. Some people even left before it was over. (I'm glad I didn't watch it at 12:00 because I don't think I would've made it!)
All in all, I would definitely recommend this movie! :D

[rf_ucsd]

Kurt Loder wrote a long review on MTV.com about this movie ... which is weird because Kurt Loder doesn't usually do things like that ... must have been really moved.

What'd ya' like the best?

[soleil]

everything. :dozey:
when pippin starts to have a seisure when he looks into that black ball thing.
when the Nazgul come out of Morder right before Frodo Sam and Gollum go up the stairs to Shelob's lair...
i can't decide.

[rf_ucsd]

The shreaking of the Fell Beasts seemed so much more pronounced in this one as opposed to TTT.

I'm going to go back and see it again soon.

Stupid having to wait for the DVD.

[StupidIntel]

I saw the other two 3 times in theaters... :smug:

Think I'm going to do the same thing again!

[rf_ucsd]

I saw FotR once, TTT twice ... RotK I bet I see thrice.

[StupidIntel]

I'm going see it! Ashley is on her way to pick me up! OMG, I can't wait!

[rf_ucsd]

Have fun!

[StupidIntel]

I will! We just bought tickets... it was sold out until 11 pm... so yeah!!!

[StupidIntel]

Well, the movie was grrreat, like I thought it would be.

But it was kinda hard to get into it because some kids (i say kids, but they were probably older than me) were talking and laughing through the whole thing!

All my favorit parts were in there... and my eyes only watered up 2 times! At the end when Merry and Pippin came running in to see Frodo and about 20 minutes into the movie... I forgot why... I really need to see this again!

[Manders]

im seeing it tommorow. sooooo esxcited . but the friggin trailors give away the WHOLE ending at mordor. crazy trailor people. anyways. i wanted to go to a midnight screening before i left for cali but my mum said no cuz i had exams oh well. :/

[Yellowsparks]

the movie was fantastic worth all the wait

[SierraMist]

the movie was too longgggggg. my friends and i rushed to the back of the theatre so we could be the crowd and were about to go. but the movie didnt end, so we waited and it looked like it was about to end again, so we almost left and it came back on... and this happened 2 times. but w/e it was a good movie.

[Manders]

i cant wait. i am sooo mad that its the last one. i love all of my rings buddies. ill miss you.

[StupidIntel]

I heard they were going to make the hobbit... but I don't know. We can only hope! :rolleyes:

[rf_ucsd]

im seeing it tommorow. sooooo esxcited . but the friggin trailors give away the WHOLE ending at mordor. crazy trailor people. anyways. i wanted to go to a midnight screening before i left for cali but my mum said no cuz i had exams oh well. :/

Stupid mumeses ... we hates her! She keep us from it! She wants the precious, but she can't haves it! We gets it precious. We will get our birthday present.

[rf_ucsd]

the movie was too longgggggg. my friends and i rushed to the back of the theatre so we could be the crowd and were about to go. but the movie didnt end, so we waited and it looked like it was about to end again, so we almost left and it came back on... and this happened 2 times. but w/e it was a good movie.

I think going to see it again (which I think I'm gonna do tonight) I'll appreciate the endings more. It's not that the endings were back (looking back on it), it's just that there were a few places were other movies would have naturally ended.

But once you lose that expectation the ending should be tolerable. After 10 hours of movies, though, it's easy to not care about Hobbiton anymore (what the last 20 minutes is basically about).

[rf_ucsd]

I heard they were going to make the hobbit... but I don't know. We can only hope! :rolleyes:

They have talked about it, but one of the major problem is that it will be much more expensive for New Line (IF New Line did it). Though they won't have to get many of the actors back for major roles (save McKellan, they'd need to get a younger Bilbo than Holmes), the cost to option the work will be much more expensive. The Jackson/Walsh/Boyens trio are getting so much money for King Kong ... I imagine they'd need even more for a Hobbit movie.

But it's difficult to imagine The Hobbitt NOT getting made. Not many studios can walk away from a guaranteed box office, and The Hobbit is a guaranteed $100 million movie.

It's difficult for a movie to cost so much as to not make money at $100 million (though Matrix Revolutions has managed to do just that).

[rf_ucsd]

I just got back from seeing it for a second time!

The end is still too long :(

[rf_ucsd]

Oh, and the WORST par tof the movie

GIMLI

I never thought I'd die fighting next to an elf

LEGOLAS

How about next to a friend?




How did that make it past the editor? UGH!

[Octakon]

I saw it yesterday, it was great! :D But what the hell happened to Sarumann? He's still in his tower eh? :P

[rf_ucsd]

Yeah ... they leave the Ents to guard the tower. Gandalf explains that Saruman has no more power ...

... and that's the last you hear of him.

[gvargas]

I thought was really good. I actually liked the ending. I didn't think it was too long cause it answered all of my questions. I thought they would have ended it kind of abruplty. I liked this movie and the first the best. The two towers was alright, but a bit more unbelievable.

[rf_ucsd]

On The Two Towers special edition DVD the writers make some concessions about that movie, saying it was the hardest to write because it wasn't establishing or concluding anything. Really, the movie ends up being Helms and that's it. But, IMO, TTT is clearly the third best movie ...

... but still super kewl :P

[StupidIntel]

Hey, TTT was my fav!

[rf_ucsd]

More than RotK?

[gvargas]

Yah, I think that may be the reason why it wasn't that great...because there was no real conclusion to the whole movie. The point was all about the tower....a little about the ring, but more about the towers. I also didn't like the fact that the humans fought for a little bit, but in the end the trees came and fixed everything. I think I liked some of the fight scenes better in the last movie.

[StupidIntel]

More than RotK?

Ja! I'd have to say it goes TTT, ROTK, then FOTR.

[StupidIntel]

...and that's only because I watched FOTR too freakin much.

[rf_ucsd]

That's cool!

They're all great movies.

You must really like Ents :P

[Jenjie]

The worst bit of the whole film was Eowyn's really cheesy line. I can't remember exactly what it is she says but the Witch King says to her that no man can kill him, so she whips off her helmet and says something like I'm not a man I'm a woman.

I absolutely adore Smeagol/Gollum in this. He definitely got some of the best lines.

[rf_ucsd]

Yeah, she says "I am no man" then stabs him.
The dialogue at the end, for some reason, got REAL cheesy. It was disappointing.

And I liked the RotK version of Gollum<->Smeagol interplay ... with the reflecting pool. That was cool.

[Daner]

everything was great except the ending, which was 40 minutes long of sappy teary sam and frodo hugging and staring at eachother. i had to see it twice in 2 days... i almost couldnt stand it the second time and was going to leave :P

[rf_ucsd]

Yeah ... I mean, how many times can you see Sam cry?

[fifi]

I saw this film last night and when pippin and merry were being seperated I was a little teary! :lol: :rolleyes:
but yeah I liked it! I kinda wanted Frodo to die though! I dunno why :confused: :lol: :lol:

[rf_ucsd]

When they were separated as Gandalf rode for Minas Tirith?
That scene was kind of cool ... I felt bad for Pippen ... Merry was so disappointed in him.

[fifi]

yep :embarrased: but when Merry ran up the steps to watch him go, and the sadness on his face! :rolleyes: that made me emotional haha :lol: :rolleyes:

[rf_ucsd]

Trying to think of the parts when I got welled up ...

When Theodin died, but it seems like there was a point prior to that where I started to be baby-ish.

Maybe when Theodin said Rohan would answer Gondor's call? Eh, maybe not.

I dunno.

[rf_ucsd]

I'm debating whether to go see this again tonight ... the movie theater is a 10 minute walk from here.

[StupidIntel]

GO.

[soleil]

lol
if you're bored

[rf_ucsd]

You're just trying to get rid of me ... :)

But I probably will.

[Danilo]

I going to see tomorrow, with my friends. I don't so fan "Lord Of The Ring"

Matrix it's a Shit (I hate this film)

[rf_ucsd]

OK ... I am going to go to the 9:30 showing at Horton Plaza. If anybody is in the neighborhood, you know where I'll be.

[soleil]

Have a good time :)

[gvargas]

OK ... I am going to go to the 9:30 showing at Horton Plaza. If anybody is in the neighborhood, you know where I'll be.

You're psycho... kidding :D :stunned:

I like the part where gollum goes crazy at Sam and looks at him with his evil look. Poor Sam. And when Gollum calls Frodo "master", holds his hand and walks like a dog. :lol:

[rf_ucsd]

Fat hobbitses ... always tried to keep us from it.

[rf_ucsd]

I remembered the part that makes me cry:

When Denthor orders his son to his death, and Faromir obeys as his on final attempt to redeem his father's love.

:bigcry:

[StupidIntel]

Yeah... I cried there.

[gvargas]

Yah that "Denthor " guy is psychoooo!!! And then he wants to set him and himself on fire!! :stunned:

He is still alive!!!! Take Pippin's advice!

[girlstar]

Can someone explain to me why Frodo had to leave at the end of the movie?
I'm dumb as you can tell. :lol:

[rf_ucsd]

Do you remember in the first movie when Bilbo says "I'd ask Frodo to come with me, but he's still in love with the Shire?"

Well, after all that had happened to him, Frodo was no longer in love with the Shire. He left to live out his life with the Elves, amongst those who view of the world was more like that which he had accepted.

[girlstar]

Ooooooh
I get it now, thanks Richard. :D

[rf_ucsd]

No problem.

[gvargas]

Hey...thank you....I had NO idea where he was going.... :stunned:

What happened to the Elves anyways? Did they not have anymore power after that?

[rf_ucsd]

I'm not sure, somebody who has read the book would have to say for sure, but from when I gathered from the movies was that they needed to leave Middle Earth because that which was maintaining their immortality was fading.

[gvargas]

so they would have immortality elsewhere...

(sidenote: my sister asks...is that dude still on?)

[rf_ucsd]

Right ... they're sailing to Valinor, the elvish lands across the sea. That;s the land of their people where they would live forever. That's where Aragorn wants Arwan to go.

[StupidIntel]

What dude still on where?

[rf_ucsd]

Is Gaby (soliel) still online.

[gvargas]

1975...that is my year!

[rf_ucsd]

before this post i was on 1977 ... my year!

[gvargas]

What dude still on where?

Smeagol :wink3:

[gvargas]

Is Gaby (soliel) still online.

She is around ;)

[rf_ucsd]

I guess we should stop talking trash.
She'll attack with her barrage of smilies.

[psychedelic_clocks]

AAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PIPPIN SINGS!!
AND VIGGO SINGS! THATS SO FUNNY! couldn't stop laughing at the theater!
mmm sexy man. sexy sexy viggo....

[rf_ucsd]

Pippen's song made me cry on of the times I saw it.
Viggo singing ... that I could have done without. I'm sure all the Gondorians at his corrination were like "Why the hell is he singing?"

[girlstar]

:lol:

So what happened to Legolas & Gimli? Did they go off and marry each other or what?

[psychedelic_clocks]

HAHAH BUT IT WAS SO FUNNY!!!!
when i get the dvd. im going to watch that part over and over again! haaa haaa....viggo...mmm
The old people beside me gave me the dirtiest look when i started laughing when pippin was singing.

[rf_ucsd]

The last you see of them in a Rivendell. They are at Frodo's bedside when he awakes after he is carried there from Mordor.

I assume Gimli went back to the caves, but what of Legolas? Did he go to Valinor?

Uh oh. Sequel.

[girlstar]

Oh that's right. Legolas comes home with me. :wink3:


But didn't all the dwarves die? Didn't the goblins kill them?

[StupidIntel]

One I can answer! I think...

Legolas took Gimli to Fangorn(sp) and Gimli took him exploring in some caves. Yeop...

[rf_ucsd]

All the dwarves in Moria dies, but dwarves are all about.

[girlstar]

Okay, so Gimli goes back to the caves, and Legolas comes to live in Australia with me. Got it.

[psychedelic_clocks]

LEGOLAS WORE A DRESS!
hahahaha..just like laughing at stupid things.

[rf_ucsd]

Okay, so Gimli goes back to the caves, and Legolas comes to live in Australia with me. Got it.

Exaclty. They even mention this in the movie.

[girlstar]

:lol: :lol:

"Gimli, I must leave you now. I must travel to Australia where my wife Julia lives. It was fun while it lasted my friend. Goodbye"

[StupidIntel]

No, I think you're mistaken... he's right here... with me! My Precious!!!!

[rf_ucsd]

:lol: :lol:

"Gimli, I must leave you now. I must travel to Australia where my wife Julia lives. It was fun while it lasted my friend. Goodbye"


Gimli: But Legolas, my friend, when did you start partaking in the men kind? I was told by others that you swamp on the other side of the river.

Legolas: This is true, but we must keep up appearances.

[girlstar]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll be like Mirando Otto- "I'm not man, I'm a woman!"...or something similar.
Man that was such a stupid line. :rolleyes:

[rf_ucsd]

I like Miranda Otto too.

[girlstar]

What chu lookin' at beeotch?!


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[StupidIntel]

Mmmmmmmmm

[psychedelic_clocks]

AHH!
tHATS SO FRIGHTENING!! AHHHH runaway!!!!!!
hahahaa...how about some viggo

[Mojo Pin]

mental note: i need blonde hair and pointy ears :P

[girlstar]

:lol: :lol: :wink3:

[psychedelic_clocks]

elf ears are fun

[rf_ucsd]

Mental note: Legolas is too femme.

[girlstar]

Mental note: Kill Richard for saying Legolas is too femme.

[rf_ucsd]

Mental note: Don't type out mental notes on the ...

[soleil]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[psychedelic_clocks]

how about..you mental note this!


LEGOLAS is sooooooooo feminine! HE WORE A DRESS! come on, how fruity can you get? hahahaaaaaaaa :P

[Charline'sMOM]

Can someone explain to me why Frodo had to leave at the end of the movie?
I'm dumb as you can tell. :lol:

frodo goes to a place called the Grey Havens on the ship with the last of the elves because he still carries the burden of carrying the ring and he has never really healed from when he got stabbed from the ringwraith in the fellowship or the ring. the Grey Havens like the elves afterlife . it's where they go when they are dying or tired of living in middle earth. all the elves are leaving the earth because there time and magic has ended or whatever....

........and yes, i am a total nerd.

[girlstar]

Thank you. :) And no you're not a nerd. :P

And Charline....I KILL YOU! I KILL YOU NOW!!! :angry:

[Charline'sMOM]

legolas is extremely feminine but still in touch with his masculine side
ahhhh so sexy

[Charline'sMOM]

i started laughing so hard in the movie theatre when frodo's in bed and everyody comes in one by one and laughs together. there was so much cheese involved in that scene.

[girlstar]

Yeah I know! :lol:
Legolas's face was hilarious. Just that look when he came in, oh god, made me laugh so hard. Then this crusty old bitch behind me is like "SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH".

[Charline'sMOM]

haha,, it was so funny ,,,some parts,,,,,like when viggo and pippin sang i started laughing so freaking hard.. and at one part when frodo and sam wher together i said homoliscious really loud or when sam is with his wife at the end i said "i though you and frodo had something special together" or something.....ppl in the theatre didnt appreciate that

[psychedelic_clocks]

hey mom. whats going on? HA!

but.....did you know that there is an Orlando Bloom poster and hes in a sexy pose. but i dont think its sexy. just the pose. in a seductive way. but i dont think that way about him because hes so fruity.

[rf_ucsd]

legolas is extremely feminine but still in touch with his masculine side
ahhhh so sexy

So Legolas is the official Middle Earth metrosexual?
He'll redecorate your great hall and reapolster your throne at the same time?

That's femme. :D

[rf_ucsd]

haha,, it was so funny ,,,some parts,,,,,like when viggo and pippin sang i started laughing so freaking hard.. and at one part when frodo and sam wher together i said homoliscious really loud or when sam is with his wife at the end i said "i though you and frodo had something special together" or something.....ppl in the theatre didnt appreciate that

so many bad partses almost ruined our movie, precious.
nasty hobbitses and their reunionses.
we don't needs them.

[mycdplayerisbroke]

hobbitses ahahah
"the fat hobbit ate the elf bread!"

[psychedelic_clocks]

fat hobbit.
damn mom called me a fat hobbit.

[rf_ucsd]

hobbitses ahahah
"the fat hobbit ate the elf bread!"

i sees him!
always stuffing his face when master's not looking!

[StupidIntel]

haha,, it was so funny ,,,some parts,,,,,like when viggo and pippin sang i started laughing so freaking hard.. and at one part when frodo and sam wher together i said homoliscious really loud or when sam is with his wife at the end i said "i though you and frodo had something special together" or something.....ppl in the theatre didnt appreciate that

I guess not... I have to go see the movie again cuz the asses infront of me wouldn't shut up. :)

[mycdplayerisbroke]

haha
have you seen the actor that plays gollum
he looks like the character alot
it would be kinda sad though
and smiegel was so ugly looking :huh:

[psychedelic_clocks]

Andy S..something..hes cool though. smeagols not that ugly.

[rf_ucsd]

Andy Serkas.

[psychedelic_clocks]

thats it. i cant remember...then i become stupid. then WRONG

[mycdplayerisbroke]

if i was a chick i would do gollum of smeigel

[psychedelic_clocks]

i see, or not.
smeagol was being such a bitch at the end

[Charline'sMOM]

andy serkis

[Charline'sMOM]

orlando bloom is sexy like Marbles, yes that sounds reallybad some people will understand .....about LOTR, i think the movie ppl shouldfilm the scouring of the shire and just put it in the dvd . for the everyone who hasnt read the ooks um books should know that what reeeeally happens is that when all the hobbitses return to the shire its overun with evil men who have made almost slaves of the hobbits and saruman is behind it all and they have a little batttle....uh

[StupidIntel]

I think we talked about that on the first page...

[psychedelic_clocks]

mom is an alcoholic addicted to lord of the rings.

[Charline'sMOM]

fat hobbit in league with evil teletubbies

[psychedelic_clocks]

that would be frightening.

[LifeIs4Living]

I just saw it today with my friend and we both liked it a lot, I'd just like to say that Billy Boyd has a very beautiful voice, made me tear up a little actually, very nice :)

[rf_ucsd]

'Twas an emotional moment ... poor Faromir

[twin4life]

i just saw it last night and it was an amazing movie. definatly the best out of the three.

for those who have read the books, wasn't there the part at the end where these things attack the shire? :huh: they start with an "r" but i can't remeber what they're called.