The Muse Thread

[Sheepish]

How come the Japanese always get all the goodie extras?

[swallowedinamessage]

Glorious and A Crying Shame will be different songs. A Crying Shame is the b side to Supermassive while Glorious is on the album for all those Japanese fans.

[fifi]

I'm glad they recorded crying shame! It'll be good to hear how it's progressed since they played it live :nice: Watch gonzo (mtv2 europe) tomorrow night because they were at the video shoot for smbh :D

[bart]

MUSE ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[swallowedinamessage]

what do you guys think about the video? lol or even what its about ... theres like the owl people and at the end thet turn into like space, or the black hole ... and then thats pretty much all i can work out.

[bonita]

stuff what it means;

dom looks amazing in it. and matt with his luscious red coat. LOL i'm such an idiot.
but really. they are looking amazing these days. :heart: heheee :P

[shesawsparks]

and matt with his luscious red coat

Yes, Matt looks super hot in it. And let's not forget the eyeliner :sweatdrop:

As for what the video's actually about, i haven't got a clue but i still thinks it looks pretty damned cool lol :D

[swallowedinamessage]

yes yes they do looook gooooooooood!

[bonita]

i loveeeeee what dom was wearing. with his little black jumper with the little white collar which you can see a tiny bit at the top, drumming awayyyy like the beautiful drummer he is :heart: hahaaaa

[swallowedinamessage]

Black Holes & Revelations, Our Hopes & Expectations! ......

[bonita]

this wait is too much.
it's nearly july :wideeyed:
which means
new albummmmmmmmmmmm
eeeee! :dead:

[Sheepish]

The new video is so cool :D

Can't wait for the album!!

[cdvaught]

Without WarehouseGroove, where can we get the leak?

[bonita]

you can always buy it... :dozey:

:P

MUSE DESERVE ALL THEIR ALBUM SALES - AND MORE.

buy buy buy buy :wideeyed:

[swallowedinamessage]

yes yes, you should buy the album. absolutely.

i don't buy all albums of music i like but if i really like a band, like Muse, Coldplay, Radiohead, Kings of Leon, The Streets, Oceansize etc etc. then i will buy their albums.

in my opinion it is unfair to listen to a lot of a band's music without buying their album, so YEAH BUY IT like Bonnie says! :)

[bonita]

haha that is the exact same as me. i will buy those albums of bands who i absolutely love. ie muse, coldplay, radiohead, damien rice, stuff like that. :heart:

ahhh july 3rd is coming so soon. ahh the wait!!

[bedofroses]

i love the new song!!! its so catchy,like funky dark disco!
i am considering buying the new album

[swallowedinamessage]

if there is one album you want to buy this year its Black Holes & Revelations, actually if there is one album you want to buy this decade, its Black Holes & Revelations! :)

[bedofroses]

i believe you :laugh4:

[linnea]

Supermassive Black Hole is a great song, it's different but still it's definitely a Muse song:cool:

just little over a month and the album is finally here:) can't wait!

[amsterdam528]

Album art:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/BlackHolesAndRevalationsCover.JPG

Loving the Martian surface.

[Space Cadet]

Check out the eyes on that jacket! :dizzy:

[fifi]

Gah it sucks! I really don't like it! It reminds me of R.E.M or something!
:(

[amsterdam528]

I think it's more of a Moby "18" style, but yeah REM comes to mind too.

I'll decide for sure when I get a look at the CD itself. ...and the music of course. :)

[swallowedinamessage]

yeah i saw that last night, thanks for posting it too! ...

it is interesting, lol i'm not surprised by it, almost anything goes with Muse :) ... as long as the music is good i don't care too much what the album art is like ... :D

[bonita]

haha that's so true. the album cover is interesting. kinda. a bit odd. but it will all make sense as we hear the album, i suppose.
excitement X 144950523! :heart:

[swallowedinamessage]

wow ... another track - Map Of Problematique was played tonight live on Mtv2 ... this is absolutely amazing ... love it! this album is just gonna be brilliant
.... and here it is, have a listen! ...

http://rapidshare.de/files/22059095/Muse_-_Map_Of_Problematique_Live.mp3.html

[LiquidSky]

Epic U.K. Rockers Muse Return With Cinematic New Album

Trio's "Black Holes and Revelations" features experiments with electronica and flamenco




ONLINE EXCLUSIVE Orchestral rock trio Muse return on July 11th with Black Holes and Revelations, the follow-up to 2003's Absolution. The lead single, the electronica-tinged "Supermassive Black Hole," has just hit radio, driven by singer Matthew Bellamy's trademark falsetto.
"That song is completely opposite to what the band has been doing in the past," says Bellamy of the first track off their fourth effort. "I like it a lot. It shows a different side of the band. It's got more of a groove element to it, and it's nice if guitar bands can steal back the dance floor a little bit."
In order to create Black Holes over the last year, Bellamy, drummer Dominic Howard and bassist Chris Wolstenhome teamed with longtime associate Rich Costey, who served as co-producer. Bellamy allowed his imagination to run wild lyrically -- "Glaciers melting in the dead of night/And the superstars sucked into the supermassive," he sings on the single -- and he found himself drawn to electronica, as well as harmonium and brass lines.
"I like trying to find inspiration from those more unknown areas of yourself," Bellamy explains. "The reason why the trumpets and some of the other stranger instrumentations came in is we didn't hold back in terms of taking a fringe idea to its full extent," says Bellamy, describing the resulting sound as "filmlike."
The cinematic feel of tracks such as "City of Delusion" and "Knights of Cydonia" might be due to the frontman's recent relocation from his native Britain to Italy. Living not far from actor George Clooney's digs, the singer-guitarist immersed himself in local six-string music. "From living in northern Italy, I became interested in southern Italian music and music from the South of Spain, like flamenco guitar," says Bellamy. "When you hear it, it sounds like the music from the [spaghetti] western films."
The move sent him back in time musically, but when he set about writing lyrics, they came out brimming with modern topics. "Exo Politics" charts an "orchestrated alien invasion for the purpose of increasing military budgets and building space weapons," he says, while "A Soldier's Poem" is about fighting back. "I'm singing from the perspective of the person who's at the bottom of the pyramid awakening to the fact that they are being played as a pawn," Bellamy explains. "It's about wanting to fight against that and wanting to make a change."
Muse will tour the U.S. in July.

JOLIE LASH
Posted May 25, 2006 5:09 PM




http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10387034/epic_uk_rockers_muse_return_with_cinematic_new_alb um

[Space Cadet]

"Exo Politics" charts an "orchestrated alien invasion for the purpose of increasing military budgets and building space weapons," he says.

:laugh3: I really want to hear that one. I love these guys.

[bonita]

wow ... another track - Map Of Problematique was played tonight live on Mtv2 ... this is absolutely amazing ... love it! this album is just gonna be brilliant
.... and here it is, have a listen! ...

http://rapidshare.de/files/22059095/Muse_-_Map_Of_Problematique_Live.mp3.html

i love you. really i do. :kiss:
:heart:

[bonita]

oh my :dead:
this song is amazing... gosh. it is phenomenal. i can't wait till this album is out. it's going to be incredible...

[kekita]

^wow you've sold it to me gona listen to Map Of Problematique

The song supermassive black hole is awesome!

[linnea]

wow ... another track - Map Of Problematique was played tonight live on Mtv2 ... this is absolutely amazing ... love it! this album is just gonna be brilliant
.... and here it is, have a listen! ...

http://rapidshare.de/files/22059095/Muse_-_Map_Of_Problematique_Live.mp3.html

this song is incredible:stunned: wow...I like it even more than the Supermassive black hole.. seems that the album is really going to be fantastic:)

Thank you! :kiss:

[bonita]

i'm stunned at how great it is.

i loved smbh, but it took me a few listens to love it as much as i do.
map of problematique however was just... amazing on first listen.

[linnea]

I've been listening to it almost all day... and it is still amazing:cool:
can't remember when I've been this anxious about hearing a new album, only one month left:)

[swallowedinamessage]

you need to remember how good Starlight & Knights of Cydonia are too! they are also fantastic ... :D

[linnea]

that's very true:cool:

thanks for reminding me:D

[bonita]

you need to remember how good Starlight & Knights of Cydonia are too! they are also fantastic ... :D

haha you are very right nige :kiss: but theres just something about map of problematique that is just sensationalllllll. :heart:

[swallowedinamessage]

if these 4 songs, Supermassive Black Hole, Starlight, Knights of Cydonia and Map of Problematique, are the standard of the new album then really, and i really mean this, this album would completely outstrip every other album i have ever heard, that includes coldplay, radiohead, other muse albums, placebo, and every other big band you want to throw my way. - potential for utter brilliance.

[bonita]

if these 4 songs, Supermassive Black Hole, Starlight, Knights of Cydonia and Map of Problematique, are the standard of the new album then really, and i really mean this, this album would completely outstrip every other album i have ever heard, that includes coldplay, radiohead, other muse albums, placebo, and every other big band you want to throw my way. - potential for utter brilliance.

lovely, i agree with you you you youuuuuuuuuuu so much on this.
this anticipation is killing me.

[fifi]

I love map of the problematique! It's by far the best new muse song I've heard so far!! It immediately makes an impact :nice:
I seriously cannot wait to hear the rest of the album!

[bonita]

i know aye, that's what i was saying. the first time i heard it, it was just amazing on first listen. so incredibleee.

[3dd]

muse is an incredible band. Matt's voice is amazing:D i realy love the new song supermassive black hole an i've just downloaded map of the problematique and i like it!! can't wait for the whole album:D

[shesawsparks]

Just listened to Map Of Problematique and all i can say is WOW!!!!!! :stunned: What an amazing song! If this, Supermassive Black Hole, Knights of Cydonia and Starlight are anything to go by then this album is going to be absolutely incredible :stunned:

[linnea]

^ WOW was my first reaction to Map of Problematique and the song is incredible even now when I've been listening to it again and again..

it's definitely going to be one amazing album:)

[ClearAsCrystal]

Muse fans: Eat this up ....

two+ minutes of bliss is what I call it! :P

MUSE : knights of cydonia (live at dundee)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BlBHsypocMc&search=Muse%20-%20Cydonia


aaan I just now saw this music video....:S

Sing for Absolution:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Szfh1kiGjzE&search=Muse%20

[linnea]

Muse fans: Eat this up ....

two+ minutes of bliss is what I call it! :P

MUSE : knights of cydonia (live at dundee)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BlBHsypocMc&search=Muse%20-%20Cydonia


aaan I just now saw this music video....:S

Sing for Absolution:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Szfh1kiGjzE&search=Muse%20

again, wow... Cydonia is great (I really need to see this band live one day:stunned:) and Sing for Absolution is such a powerful song.. and the video, very impressive

Thanks for posting the links:)

[ClearAsCrystal]

:wink:

[3dd]

Muse fans: Eat this up ....

two+ minutes of bliss is what I call it! :P

MUSE : knights of cydonia (live at dundee)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BlBHsypocMc&search=Muse%20-%20Cydonia


aaan I just now saw this music video....:S

Sing for Absolution:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Szfh1kiGjzE&search=Muse%20
thanks soo much:D i have a video of muse singing Hysteria live at Glastonbury. If anyone interested in and if it hadn't been uploaded before i can upload it;)

[swallowedinamessage]

the album as i see it has potential to blow everything else any band has ever done totally out of this world. i mean that.

[ClearAsCrystal]

thanks soo much:D i have a video of muse singing Hysteria live at Glastonbury. If anyone interested in and if it hadn't been uploaded before i can upload it;)


sure ...I would like to see it :)

[girlygirl]

Ok probley a crazy question, but when is the new cd coming out?!?! Espically in the US does anyone know by any chance?!?!

[bonita]

i'm not sure about the us, but it's release day is the 3rd of july.

nige i agree with you COMPLTELY on this.
this is just the live versions of the songs. imagine it's studio version.
and then imagine seeing it live.
oh mannnnnnnn.
:dead:

http://myspace-933.vo.llnwd.net/00805/33/96/805026933_l.jpg

http://myspace-784.vo.llnwd.net/00290/48/71/290001784_l.jpg

http://myspace-737.vo.llnwd.net/00804/73/78/804318737_l.jpg

some newies and oldies.
gosh i love dom's pants.
and gosh i love this band so much.

[ClearAsCrystal]

:nice:

indeed... and that is one strong statement made by Nigel...that they could top any of his current/previous favorites...


we shall see ..won't we!?

[bonita]

i firmly believe that it can too.
this album will be phenomenal.
if 4 songs are anything to go by.
i have not stopped listening to map of the problematique at allllllll these past few days.
i'm even listening to it right now.
it is phenomenal.
goshhhhh
:dead:
i love this band so much
it hurts.
lollll

[bart]

MUSE ROCK... MUSE ROCK.... when is the album out !

[swallowedinamessage]

3rd JULY! :) .. i think i'm going to have to place that in my signature .. does need a little update actually!

i'm pleased you agree with me bonnie :D

oh yeah guys .. keep checking out Muse's myspace cause i believe they are posting the Knights of Cydonia US single on there - so it will be a studio version! :)

[bonita]

i think i will put it in my siggy too when it get's closer to release date.
:cool:
gosh i'm so excited.
i've never been this excited before about an album release. i was about x&y, but this is beyonnnnnnnnnddddd anything.

[bonita]

http://myspace-638.vo.llnwd.net/00804/83/68/804338638_l.jpg

haven't seen this one before.
just for kicks. :heart:

[3dd]

i'm totally in love with that song map of problematique and supermassive black hole:D



here is Hysteria - live at Glastonbury
http://rapidshare.de/files/22436854/Muse_-_Hysteria__Live_at_Glastonbury_.mpg.html

[3dd]

bonita thanks for the pics:D they're soo cute

[bonita]

isn't map of the problematique fantastic? im in loveeeeeee.
and supermassive is excellentttt, i'm loving their new stuff! :heart:
thanks for the glasto vid :nice:
and no problems for the piccies.
i love seeing new muse piccies, the boys are looking wonderful lately.
such style and class.

[bonita]

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/123/matt_et_dom2.png

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/123/matt_et_dom1.png

CUTIESSS!

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/123/matttt.jpg

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/122/IMG_1579.jpg

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/123/matthew3.png

OH MYYY! :dead:

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/123/dominic1.png

BLESS HIS VEST :heart:

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/20/MUSE_USA.jpg

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/4/me_dom.jpg

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/4/nme27may2006.jpg

the thing i disliked about this review, was that they refer to muse in the pic as "matt and co", and in the article they say "one small step for matt, one giant leap for matt-kind"
i hate when people entirely refer to a band as one person.

[linnea]

Thanks for the pics Bonita, they're looking mighty fine:cool:

And thank you 3dd for posting the Glastonbury video:)

[ClearAsCrystal]

Bonita .. For you.. :kiss:

*in case you haven't seen em*

Map of the Problematique (live)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qlhtexEgUE&search=map%20of%20the%20problematique

Knights of Cydonia (live)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BlBHsypocMc&search=knights%20of%20cydonia






aaaand this is STILL one of the best live Muse concerts I have caugh (on youtube :rolleyes: ) they rocked so hard :D


Newborn (live)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8e3Amp4SgOY&search=Muse


Muscle Museum...the song I fell in love with first... (live) :chinese: Matt looks like he just picks clothes out from a funky but expensive pile!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cm3qH89Yr9w&search=Muse%20-%20muscle%20museum

[swallowedinamessage]

they are looking great lately, lots of style and class, you can see their development since the days of Showbiz.

coldplay used to be my favourite band but i have matured into a hardcore muse fan and i'm afraid they are by some way the best now.

[evidenceoftruth]

They really are a bit ecdentric, but great music nonetheless.

[Space Cadet]

I think the eccentricity is a big part of why I like them. Nothing gets me on board like a good song about outerspace...

[fifi]

My god! Dom, get a hair cut!!!!

Roll on 3rd of July! Map of the problematique is on repeat....can't get enough of it!! :heart:

[swallowedinamessage]

I think the eccentricity is a big part of why I like them. Nothing gets me on board like a good song about outerspace...

i think muse could sing about anything and it would still sound good.

however, all of their lyrics i can relate to and understand which also makes them very very good.

[Knight Of Cydonia]

Fear, and panic in the air
I want to be free
From desolation and despair
And I feel like everything I see
Is being swept away
And I refuse to let you go
I can't get it right
Get it right
Since I met you
Loneliness be over
When will this loneliness be over?

I can totally relate to this song , man is like matt reading my mind again

[ClearAsCrystal]

So...obviously (as many have noted earlier) there are tons of fans of both Radiohead and Muse.


Coincidentally, both these precious bands are pulling out a new album .. and both are said to be really great (once released).



So I ask you, dear fans of Radiohead and Muse... which album do you think will hold up stronger in your hearts? I mean, each fan has heard tid-bits of non-studio versions... so you can at least let your opinion be based on that.


I am aware that the outcome will be different once the albums come out...but the fans can still make heart-felt assumptions based on what they have heard.



Which will it be? :sneaky:

[berrywoman]

hmmmm a very good question...

I've only now, after reading your question, have given this a ponder.... my heart immediately lept towards Radiohead..... I love them both almost equally, but Thom Yorke has a certain something that Matt Bellamy sure doesn't. Not that Bellamy isn't a GOD as well.... but I guess I've been with Radiohead for much longer.... I only discovered Muse back in 2003, so I guess they're till fresh with me.... I've been with Radiohead since 2000...

ok so yeah... Radiohead. :smoking:

[RICK8]

Radiohead for me :nice: been listening to them since 1997!!!

:cool3: awaiting the new material..

[amsterdam528]

Muse for me, though I must say that I've listened to Like Spinning Plates 5 times today. :shocked2:

[amsterdam528]

Anyone have the studio version of Knights of Cydonia yet? It's supposed to be revealed very soon if it hasn't been already.

[RICK8]

Oh My...:o:o:o

[ClearAsCrystal]

hmmmm a very good question...

I've only now, after reading your question, have given this a ponder.... my heart immediately lept towards Radiohead..... I love them both almost equally, but Thom Yorke has a certain something that Matt Bellamy sure doesn't. Not that Bellamy isn't a GOD as well.... but I guess I've been with Radiohead for much longer.... I only discovered Muse back in 2003, so I guess they're till fresh with me.... I've been with Radiohead since 2000...

ok so yeah... Radiohead. :smoking:



well o well

I also had to give it a tough ponder. I have also loved Radiohead for so long and hard, that it's heartbreaking to have to choose because Muse, in such short time... has shown brilliance ... just like... a flash!

I don't want to pick too soon, my like for Muse may just be a passing feeling... I suppose I will still have to wait for the results of both albums...


But I have to say, the new Radiohead album has my vote. They have more experience, more of something special that comes with their mysterious ways... and facinating lyrics/music/entire creations :D


I just don't know...

[Ondes Martenot]

edited

[ClearAsCrystal]

no comparisons, really


my main point was to point out that many coldplayers here are fans of BOTH ...

and ..well you read it..or maybe you should reread it :nice:


and it's nice to see what they think..


but damn Nik...you have turned so negative lately, it's hard to understand why you are still around, spreading negativity..if you don't care for the thread, keep away :confused:

[Ondes Martenot]

if you ask to choose one band from two, you automatically compare them

and i'm just sharing my point as always

[ClearAsCrystal]

NOT true.. I didn't say this one is like this one because.


I only meant to bring out that there are double fans...of two very popular bands right now... and have been...


if you are just sharing your point in my thread which is sharing my point... then ohhkay...

but quit being so jerky all the time..telling me my thread dedication is shameful .

[Ondes Martenot]

well, anyway...when i hear word "Muse" first what comes to my mind is "Radiohead copy", maybe it's just me...but there are too many similarities between Muse and OK Computer. i can hardly imagine that Muse will release something unexpected and brilliant like Kid A. all i can hear in Muse's music is "some unreleased Radiohead songs which will never make a Radiohead's album". that's why i can't see how people can prefer Muse to Radiohead.

but i don't want to bother "double fans" and blah blah blah so i'm removing my posts and blah blah blah

[ClearAsCrystal]

thanks... no need for it here...it doesn't keep well with the flow :rolleyes:


bah! keep it if you like.... i dunnut care

[Ondes Martenot]

anyway, i'll give a try to the new Muse album, but i don't expect much

it's been leaked by the way, if you don't have it yet i can PM you

[ClearAsCrystal]

I have watched some live performances of it and they have been kick-ass so far.

I wouldn't spend effort on anything if I didn't think it was worth it.


If you like, send it my way. I sure would not mind.

[Ondes Martenot]

sent

i'm listening to the album... *reviews come later, don't worry*

[ClearAsCrystal]

good- O

[3dd]

Anyone have the studio version of Knights of Cydonia yet? It's supposed to be revealed very soon if it hasn't been already.
I guess there isn't any studio version yet:(

[bonita]

Thanks for the pics Bonita, they're looking mighty fine :cool:

you are most welcome :kiss:

Bonita .. For you.. :kiss:

*in case you haven't seen em*

Map of the Problematique (live)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qlhtexEgUE&search=map%20of%20the%20problematique

Knights of Cydonia (live)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BlBHsypocMc&search=knights%20of%20cydonia






aaaand this is STILL one of the best live Muse concerts I have caugh (on youtube :rolleyes: ) they rocked so hard :D


Newborn (live)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8e3Amp4SgOY&search=Muse


Muscle Museum...the song I fell in love with first... (live) :chinese: Matt looks like he just picks clothes out from a funky but expensive pile!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cm3qH89Yr9w&search=Muse%20-%20muscle%20museum

oh crystal you are so lovely :nice: :kiss: thankiiesss!
they are looking great lately, lots of style and class, you can see their development since the days of Showbiz.

coldplay used to be my favourite band but i have matured into a hardcore muse fan and i'm afraid they are by some way the best now.

that is so true nige. loving their style lately, they've developed so much. as for cp, they also used to be my favvvoouuritteee, i was the bigggesssst fan before and everything, but my muse love since the beginning of 2004 has swallowed me up whole. it's insaneeee. :heart:

My god! Dom, get a hair cut!!!!

hahaha i am loving dom's haiiiiiirrr!

They really are a bit ecdentric, but great music nonetheless.

it's their eccentricity which makes them fabulantteeee!

[ClearAsCrystal]

you're welcome

[Ondes Martenot]

well. let's start somewhere...

i think Muse fans will adore this album, because it's so "museish" even if it contains some surprises. but as a non-Muse fan i can admit, this album is quite weak, even if we compare it to the previous Muse albums. during listening to the album i had a feeling that i'm hearing Thom Yorke and/or Freddie Mercury. i just couldn't close my eyes and enjoy the music. to be honest in some points on this album Matt Bellamy's voice was quite annoying for me.

"A Soldier's Poem" sounds like Radiohead's "I Will". both are short and based on vocals. during listening to "Knights Of Cydonia" i had a feeling i heard it somewhere before, but this song is a good album ender. "City Of Delusion" contains a trumpet solo, a bit unexpected i'd say.
though i liked some short moments in some songs, but after some time it became more confusing and it got hard to listen to the whole song without skipping.

about artwork...i didn't like Muse's artwork in the past, either do i now. too much Photoshop, though in some points their artwork is creative.

overally it's not an awful album, either a good one. i'm sure some people will adore it and BH&R will become commercialy succesful...though i liked some songs, but for me it will stay a forgettable album, probably...and i still say this as a non-Muse fan, don't forget.

i'd say...i got what i expected, no surprises for me. i had a feeling i heard this stuff before...hmmm, i think Muse want to progress and change their music but still Muse stuck somewhere and just can't find their real sound. they still sound like a "growing up" band. the whole album sounds more like a "Radiohead unreleased b-sides album" from OK Computer and Hail To The Thief eras.

3.8/10

[Lera]

I am a Muse fan and I'll never say Matt's voice annoys me, of course. I also don't think that their new stuff sounds more radioheadish than their other songs. But I don't like their new songs too much.

Of course, I aprecciate it and I'm looking forward for the new album but I can't say that SBH impressed me more than Hysteria or Showbiz. I think their old stuff like Unintended or Micro Cutz is so much better...

But I love them anyway and don't compare them to anybody else. I think they've proved already that they have their own style in music.

[Lera]

Hmm..Good one, Crystal. I think it's Radiohead. I love Muse and I'm waiting fir their new album, of course, but I've already heard some songs from it and I'm a little bit disappointed...Maybe other songs are better...Hmm..Dunno.

And what about Radiohead-I just wanna hear their new stuff, haven't listened to them for a long time.

And, just for the record, I've never thought about Muse as about the RH copy. Two great bands, but they're different for me.

[alyssa]

I like it. :blush:

I never really think too much about music--if I like the way it sounds, I like it...

[swallowedinamessage]

well. let's start somewhere...

i think Muse fans will adore this album, because it's so "museish" even if it contains some surprises. but as a non-Muse fan i can admit, this album is quite weak, even if we compare it to the previous Muse albums. during listening to the album i had a feeling that i'm hearing Thom Yorke and/or Freddie Mercury. i just couldn't close my eyes and enjoy the music. to be honest in some points on this album Matt Bellamy's voice was quite annoying for me.

"A Soldier's Poem" sounds like Radiohead's "I Will". both are short and based on vocals. during listening to "Knights Of Cydonia" i had a feeling i heard it somewhere before, but this song is a good album ender. "City Of Delusion" contains a trumpet solo, a bit unexpected i'd say.
though i liked some short moments in some songs, but after some time it became more confusing and it got hard to listen to the whole song without skipping.

about artwork...i didn't like Muse's artwork in the past, either do i now. too much Photoshop, though in some points their artwork is creative.

overally it's not an awful album, either a good one. i'm sure some people will adore it and BH&R will become commercialy succesful...though i liked some songs, but for me it will stay a forgettable album, probably...and i still say this as a non-Muse fan, don't forget.

i'd say...i got what i expected, no surprises for me. i had a feeling i heard this stuff before...hmmm, i think Muse want to progress and change their music but still Muse stuck somewhere and just can't find their real sound. they still sound like a "growing up" band. the whole album sounds more like a "Radiohead unreleased b-sides album" from OK Computer and Hail To The Thief eras.

3.8/10

whos review is that?!!!!!!

ah that annoys me so much to see that. radiohead fucking b sides. muse never have and never will sound anything like radiohead.

we'll see some real reviews about the album and how successful it is when it comes out.

[swallowedinamessage]

i'm a fan of both of these bands.

but although i know radiohead are genius, to me they are not in the same league as muse. radiohead do not grab my heart and reach my feelings like muse do.

Muse are just awesome.

[swallowedinamessage]

Anyone have the studio version of Knights of Cydonia yet? It's supposed to be revealed very soon if it hasn't been already.

i have heard it !!!

unfortunately i havent got a copy of it but it was on Radio 1 and also will be put on Muse's myspace profile very soon.

if you want to hear it then you need to go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/listen
then you need to click on listen again. then scroll to the bottom to zane lowe and skip to 15 minutes in and let it play. the song comes on around the 16 minutes mark! .... its brilliant! fantastical genius! :)

[-JaK-]

It's all been leaked!
Bastards, I've not even heard the studio version of KoC or Map Of The Problematique yet.
*Is going to wait until 3rd July! (Can do it!)*
Luckily though, none of the muse forums are letting people put links up

[swallowedinamessage]

there hasn't been a studio version of Map Of The Problematique .. and as for those links they are all live versions. so its definitely not leaked.

[kekita]

^ i listened to that song and perhaps i still need a few more listens
because supermassive black hole is still my fav out of the two.

[Ondes Martenot]

well, Radiohead b-sides sound much better than any Muse song. it's my opinion, and i have a right to have one.
i did listen to the whole album, that's why i reviewed it.

and my friend, i can't believe you say Muse don't sound like Radiohead, at least you should admit that Muse ripped off some of Radiohead songs.

the whole album sounds like Queen actually

[Gitta Rensolo]

Well....I read a bit in the Muse thread....and of course the fans were talking about brilliance...hehe...
therefore I've downloaded this "Maps of problems..." song...

I only listened to this song from this album so far...

and all i can say that I as a neutral person can't hear any brilliance in that!Sorry:)

[berrywoman]

I didn't think this thread was asking to compare the two... but I can understand why Nik might have thought that to begin with... because you'd be choosing and comparing.... but you can't really 'compare' the two bands... they're so different on so many ways...

but yeah.. my vote still goes for Radiohead. :P

[berrywoman]

the album has been leaked????? :stunned:

[Ondes Martenot]

yes, it's been leaked yesterday night. 20 hours ago or something

well said, Julia. everyone's entitled to opine everything. i can't hear anything either, you're not alone

[berrywoman]

really!! I need to hear this... I don't know if I can wait an entire month to hear it legitimately!! lol

I kinda feel bad, all that hard work..... oh well!

[Gitta Rensolo]

My vote definitely goes to radiohead...
I have all their albums now...

I have only "Origin of symmetry" by Muse....although I like some songs I'm not bothered to buy more by them....
and I'm not really intersted in their new material....

I'm damn interested in the new Radiohead album...because Ok Computer and Kid A just ...erm...just blow me away...

[Ondes Martenot]

here:
http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1631962&postcount=5396

though it's MONO (lol!!!) but good leak

[Ondes Martenot]

yeah, actually you're right Camu. i overreacted the situation a bit...comparing them is quite ridiculous if we'll be honest... :rolleyes:

Radiohead all the way

[Miss-Clementine]

I just heard that song yesterday, and al though I really love Muse, I dunno, it didnt appeal to me

[3dd]

i'm downloading it right now can't wait to listen it:D

[-JaK-]

Ahh, I meant the live version
But the album has leaked
http://invictus.softmeg.com/
Check it out (Not the album of course :P)

[Lera]

I've never seen any similarity between RH and MUSE. In my opinion, Radiohead is.. Hmm.. Can't find a correct word, maybe more weird.

I mean, their songs are strange somehow and they sound not so heavy for my ear like MUSE songs do.

Muse songs are more exciting, more heavy and all...Dunno, just can't compare them.

RH fans compare them to MUSE and say that RH is much better and that MUSE has their style. But Radiohead is an old band so we can compare them to Codplay, MUSE, Travis and whatever else. And that is ridicuolus.

[Ondes Martenot]

edited:

forget it

[amsterdam528]

As a fan of both Radiohead and Muse, I see no comparison besides high vocals... There are no two songs alike between the groups.

[LiquidSky]

bah! Can someone tell me when it comes out?

[ClearAsCrystal]

well. let's start somewhere...

i think Muse fans will adore this album, because it's so "museish" even if it contains some surprises. but as a non-Muse fan i can admit, this album is quite weak, even if we compare it to the previous Muse albums. during listening to the album i had a feeling that i'm hearing Thom Yorke and/or Freddie Mercury. i just couldn't close my eyes and enjoy the music. to be honest in some points on this album Matt Bellamy's voice was quite annoying for me.

"A Soldier's Poem" sounds like Radiohead's "I Will". both are short and based on vocals. during listening to "Knights Of Cydonia" i had a feeling i heard it somewhere before, but this song is a good album ender. "City Of Delusion" contains a trumpet solo, a bit unexpected i'd say.
though i liked some short moments in some songs, but after some time it became more confusing and it got hard to listen to the whole song without skipping.

about artwork...i didn't like Muse's artwork in the past, either do i now. too much Photoshop, though in some points their artwork is creative.

overally it's not an awful album, either a good one. i'm sure some people will adore it and BH&R will become commercialy succesful...though i liked some songs, but for me it will stay a forgettable album, probably...and i still say this as a non-Muse fan, don't forget.

i'd say...i got what i expected, no surprises for me. i had a feeling i heard this stuff before...hmmm, i think Muse want to progress and change their music but still Muse stuck somewhere and just can't find their real sound. they still sound like a "growing up" band. the whole album sounds more like a "Radiohead unreleased b-sides album" from OK Computer and Hail To The Thief eras.

3.8/10



here we go comparing the two bands ....something you thought was shameful? :wink3: in any thread but yours, of course. :rolleyes:



edit* i am listening to maps of the problematique... and his voice is something besides Freddy Mercury... Bellamy's voice changes in a different way (more warbley as opposed to "straight -forward .. hits actual notes" ) like Freddy.

The sound of it is NOTHING like any Radiohead... B-sides or not... And I have heard just about every b-side there is so I would have caught some similarity...


Ondes: If you can... pull up a Radiohead b-side that made you think "Muse" ...
and a Muse song that made you think: "Radiohead b-side"


then we can go by more than just the words of a biased fan :wink:


i could not compare the two in such a way! :bomb:

[LiquidSky]

here we go comparing the two bands ....something you thought was shameful? :wink3: in any thread but yours, of course. :rolleyes:

It's really a never ending cycle. If it's not with Coldplay then it's with Muse if it's not with Muse then it's with Keane and if it's not with Keane is with someone else..

[ClearAsCrystal]

bah! Can someone tell me when it comes out?



i think the date is july 3rd :huh:

[Ondes Martenot]

here we go comparing the two bands ....something you thought was shameful? :wink3: in any thread but yours, of course. :rolleyes:

yeah you're right comparing them in musical way is ridiculous, sorry Radiohead... i'd like to apologize in this way

Radiohead and Muse are like Al Pacino/Bob de Niro and Leo DiCaprio

and i just reviewed an album which i already deleted from my PC, so sorry kids but i won't review Muse again :worried:

[LiquidSky]

i think the date is july 3rd :huh:

Until July 3rd?!:shocked2: Oh hell no.. I am not waiting another month.. I thought it was gonna come out in about a week or so..


*goes to download*

[Ondes Martenot]

Radiohead b-sides > Muse albums

list of of Radiohead songs that Muse rip off:
Trans-Atlantic Drawl, Cuttooth, Exit Music, the whole OKC actually

to be continued, just give me some time

[Lera]

Ah screw them both. Beatles forever.

[ClearAsCrystal]

tee hee! you will have to disect it a bit deeper cuz I have got nothing..hearing those few names :dozey:

[Ondes Martenot]

tee hee! you will have to disect it a bit deeper cuz I have got nothing..hearing those few names :dozey:

well, it's only your problem that you don't want to open your eyes and realize what the real situation is

[amsterdam528]

OK Computer? Have you ever listened to MUSE? I will admit that Transatlantic Drawl does have some elements found in MUSE's songs, but that was just over a month before Origin of Symmetry, when MUSE already had much material.

Here's some irony. I downloaded a song "Radiohead - Cuttooth" but in reality, it's actually a misnamed copy of Muse - Con-Science. How ironic?

[Ondes Martenot]

if you want to hear same songs, primitive and depressing lyircs on every album, you buy Muse
if you want to hear new, exciting songs and brilliant lyrics you buy Radiohead

it's that fucking simple, my muse friends

[Space Cadet]

Radiohead b-sides > Muse albums

list of of Radiohead songs that Muse rip off:
Trans-Atlantic Drawl, Cuttooth, Exit Music, the whole OKC actually

to be continued, just give me some time

:rolleyes: Here's the deal... lots of bands have borrowed from Radiohead. Why not? They're freaking Radiohead! No one's going to take that away from them.

I think they woke alot of musicians up to what was possible. But everyone puts their own twist on it. Pilate gets compared to Radiohead... so does Muse... so does Coldplay. Yet none of those bands sound the same. They take one or two tiny facets of what Radiohead has done and does thier own, NEW thing with it.

No, they're probably never going to match Radiohead, but that's no reason to go slagging them off. The world would be a poorer place without the many bands Radiohead have inspired, and I would still be stuck listening the the crap on the radio.

[LiquidSky]

So what? Some of us like both :dozey:

[Ondes Martenot]

No, they're probably never going to match Radiohead, but that's no reason to go slagging them off.

was i, my dear?

i just wrote a fucking review and shared an honest opinion

[Space Cadet]

Now, as for the album leak, I'm not sure what I think. They've traded angst for paranoia...weird lyrics, but good sounds. I need time to listen afew more times...

[Lera]

Not all Muse songs are depressive and not all RH songs are exciting. Nothing is simple, life's complicated. That's my opinion and nobody's allowed to judge me. Whaha.

[Space Cadet]

was i, my dear?

i just wrote a fucking review and shared an honest opinion

...followed by a rabblerousing statement about greatness. :P ;)

I vote we all put our hackles down and enjoy whatever music we want to. :)

[berrywoman]

yeah, actually you're right Camu. i overreacted the situation a bit...comparing them is quite ridiculous if we'll be honest... :rolleyes:

Radiohead all the way


:kiss: I like you.

[swallowedinamessage]

NOOOOOO ITS BEEN LEAKED :( ...

fucking bastards you are right Jak. why would you want to leak it onto the internet? ahh its tempting me now.

[amsterdam528]

Where is it?

[alyssa]

Are you guys listening to the mono leak still?

There's stereo, 320 bitrate ones going around...

[ClearAsCrystal]

if you want to hear same songs, primitive and depressing lyircs on every album, you buy Muse
if you want to hear new, exciting songs and brilliant lyrics you buy Radiohead

it's that fucking simple, my muse friends


I think this is what Ondes wants :



Everyone buy Radiohead and Radiohead albums only... THEY are the only good shit out there. No lyrics are better, No vocals beat Thom's... Don't enjoy Muse because you say it makes your heart feel awesome. Don't ...Just get Radiohead that way no one will listen to anything else and the world's ears will know only this one group... That way everything will be redundant

[iriden]

if you want to hear same songs, primitive and depressing lyircs on every album, you buy Muse
if you want to hear new, exciting songs and brilliant lyrics you buy Radiohead

it's that fucking simple, my muse friends
IMHO some Radiohead's songs are more depressing (yes I fell asleep listening to OKC once cause it was too depressive...and it really makes me want to cut my veins...well not just me, but some of my friends too - and they like Radiohead) than Muse's (actually I don't find any of their songs depressing).
Please forgive me :P

We just have different tastes, but hey that's what the world is about.

*goes to download BHAR*

[Knight Of Cydonia]

Muse more depressing than radiohead? that's a first,i love radiohead to bits but they sure have more depressive lyrics than other bands (big ideas,exit music, motion picture soundtrackl,,killer cars, etc, etc, etc ) and i pretty much listen to those songs when i'm feeling down cos i can relate to the lyrics , on the other hand muse has some sad lyrics but with a heavy riff ( hypermusic for example) but they have different styles so comparing them seem pointless to me.. its like comparing sigur rós with metallica, its almost impossible cos they dont fit in the same genre.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion but there's no need to look down on others just because they like something you dont ( at least that's what i got from some posts before) and no matter what ppl say no one will make me change of mind about muse or radiohead cos i love both bands however you're free to keep arguing about who's 'best' - no need to keep reapeating yourself over and over saying you hate this or that band, we got it the first time ppl ;)

carry on

[Ondes Martenot]

I think this is what Ondes wants :



Everyone buy Radiohead and Radiohead albums only... THEY are the only good shit out there. No lyrics are better, No vocals beat Thom's... Don't enjoy Muse because you say it makes your heart feel awesome. Don't ...Just get Radiohead that way no one will listen to anything else and the world's ears will know only this one group... That way everything will be redundant

just because you put your text in bigger size, it doesn't mean it contains useful information.
you couldn't disagree with my post actually

1.0

IMHO some Radiohead's songs are more depressing (yes I fell asleep listening to OKC once cause it was too depressive...and it really makes me want to cut my veins...well not just me, but some of my friends too - and they like Radiohead) than Muse's (actually I don't find any of their songs depressing).
Please forgive me :P

We just have different tastes, but hey that's what the world is about.

*goes to download BHAR*

of course, everyone has different tastes, but saying that Radiohead are depressing is kinda immature ;)
you must find all those copies who came after RH depressing as well then, but i think you don't
are Coldplay depressing? don't think so

Muse more depressing than radiohead? that's a first,i love radiohead to bits but they sure have more depressive lyrics than other bands (big ideas,exit music, motion picture soundtrackl,,killer cars, etc, etc, etc ) and i pretty much listen to those songs when i'm feeling down cos i can relate to the lyrics , on the other hand muse has some sad lyrics but with a heavy riff ( hypermusic for example) but they have different styles so comparing them seem pointless to me.. its like comparing sigur rós with metallica, its almost impossible cos they dont fit in the same genre.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion but there's no need to look down on others just because they like something you dont ( at least that's what i goapeating yourself over and over saying you hate this or that band, we got it the first time ppl ;)t from some posts before) and no matter what ppl say no one will make me change of mind about muse or radiohead cos i love both bands however you're free to keep arguing about who's 'best' - no need to keep re

carry on

i just reviewed an album which i didnt like. i have a right to review anything. and it's not a Muse forum by the way, so nobody can't say i was arrogant. the hardcore Muse fans overreacted the whole situation. that's why i started to defend myself ;)

and Muse are depressing pour moi

i already shared my opinion about Muse and Radiohead relation, so i'm not going to repeat myself 92134912x times
Muse are like babies of Radiohead's work. they're trying to create something very big like OK Computer but fail every time IMO.

and everyone's entitled to have an opinion

[Sam]

I never knew depressing music was such a bad thing. I consider almost all Radiohead's music to be depressing and I like it that way, they are my probably my favourite band right now. I would also consider such Coldplay songs as "We Never Change", "AROBTTH" and "Spies" to be depressing, they are also 3 of my favourite Coldplay songs.

And on the subject of Muse, not my cup of tea.

[bonita]

wait till the 3rd of july :nice:

[Plug_in_coldplaying]

Radiohead yes and Muse no

[swallowedinamessage]

*MUSE ARE THE GREATEST BAND IN THE WORLD .*

[bonita]

hahaha
they surrrrrrrrrrrrreeeee are
oh man
i can't waittt
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! :heart:

[linnea]

I'm going to wait till July (it's July 5 in Finland for some reason), for some reason I've my heart set on bying the album and then listen it through.. it's been a long wait anyway so I can wait a couple of weeks:)

[amsterdam528]

Yeah, it's July 11 in the States :cry:

Oh well, at least that means I'll be home when it comes out, unlike July 3.

[Gitta Rensolo]

Well....I read a bit in the Muse thread....and of course the fans were talking about brilliance...hehe...
therefore I've downloaded this "Maps of problems..." song...

I only listened to this song from this album so far...

and all i can say that I as a neutral person can't hear any brilliance in that!Sorry:)


Ok...I've listened to it again some minutes ago...and no no...I had to turn it off...I don't like it...for me there is nothing special about it!
Doesn't catch me at all....sorry!

[Lera]

Uh that's sad but I agree with you on this point, Julia... Doesn't catch me neither.

[linnea]

I don't understand the deal with different release dates either:confused:

I'm just glad there already are superb muse albums and some new songs that I can listen while waiting, makes it easier to wait..:) *listening to Bliss at the moment:cool:*

[iriden]

of course, everyone has different tastes, but saying that Radiohead are depressing is kinda immature ;)
you must find all those copies who came after RH depressing as well then, but i think you don't
are Coldplay depressing? don't think so

I was just saying I find Radiohead's songs more depressing than Muse's for what I know of each band, and I'm talking about the whole atmosphere of the songs, not just the lyrics (which I usually don't catch at first listen due to my poor english :P) and it's just what I feel when I listen to them...but it's obvious you can't see this cause you like them...it's like when poeple tell me "Coldplay are depressing" I find it strange, but it's just cause I like them
And well depressing is not always in a pessimistic way. As Knight of Cydonia (mmhhh...are you Ren?) said some songs can be depressing and maybe you like them more in some situations..probably the best word to describe them is not even depressing but rather "sad" :)

[-JaK-]

*Has now heard Map of the Problematique*

*Is now very happy*

*Still won't download the album*

[*andrea*]

I like both :nice:

but I have to say radiohead is so much better than muse :wacko:

[Knight Of Cydonia]

i just reviewed an album which i didnt like. i have a right to review anything. and it's not a Muse forum by the way, so nobody can't say i was arrogant. the hardcore Muse fans overreacted the whole situation. that's why i started to defend myself ;)

and Muse are depressing pour moi

i already shared my opinion about Muse and Radiohead relation, so i'm not going to repeat myself 92134912x times
Muse are like babies of Radiohead's work. they're trying to create something very big like OK Computer but fail every time IMO.

and everyone's entitled to have an opinion
Indeed you're allowed to review anything you like but considering the majority of ppl here like muse and radiohead, it was natural to expect some opinions back from both sides. Though i really find a bit pointless to review an album i hate or a band i dislike,it'd be like me trying to review the last black eyes peas album, of course i wouldnt give them credit at all cos i have a bad opinion about them already but if it was just to prove your point and show the rest og people here how lame muse is then alright , suit yourself ;)

I do know its not a muse forum but its not a radiohead forum either so the best is just respect what others listen and try to get along.As long as we can debate without falling into childish arguments and insults its all good so i dont know if other muse fans overreacted but you sure have the right to defend yourself i wont argue with that, i'd do the same.

I find radiohead depressive in many ways but since when depressive songs are such a bad thing? I've been called deppresive for listening to radiohead by many ppl during the past 10 years but it kinda suits my personality and i prefer a honest sad song than a happy tune that is just flat in musical terms. No wonder i love radiohead even though i think they have depressive lyrics , does that make me inmature? ( just read a comment u said) I dont think so, its my personal opinion and trying to question that based on your own taste and sense in music is a bit arrogant my friend.

I still dont find any relation about muse and radiohead to call them " radiohead babies", sure radiohead is radiohead and its an amazing band no one will take that from them ,and have influenced from moby to system of a down (diff genres of music , that's my point ) but then again i can say radiohead are talking head's babies since they had a major influence on them but its unfair to say and not giving them credit for theit own work and effot.

As for the ok computer comment i think its way too much to think they are so obsessed about radiohead when they're not ( they're more influenced by rage agaist the machine btw) and IMHO they dont need an ok computer alike album cos origin of symmetry was their 'ok computer' to me just perfect.

In any case, it's good to exchange opinions and debate from time to time and i'm glad we can keep certain level without going into childish arguments. I appreciate that and i hope you all can do the same.

My position is clear and so is your my friend, i'd recommend not to take things to heart if someone tries to take arguments to a lower level cos its not worth the time ;)

cheers

[Ondes Martenot]

Indeed you're allowed to review anything you like but considering the majority of ppl here like muse and radiohead, it was natural to expect some opinions back from both sides. Though i really find a bit pointless to review an album i hate or a band i dislike,it'd be like me trying to review the last black eyes peas album, of course i wouldnt give them credit at all cos i have a bad opinion about them already but if it was just to prove your point and show the rest og people here how lame muse is then alright , suit yourself ;)

I do know its not a muse forum but its not a radiohead forum either so the best is just respect what others listen and try to get along.As long as we can debate without falling into childish arguments and insults its all good so i dont know if other muse fans overreacted but you sure have the right to defend yourself i wont argue with that, i'd do the same.

I find radiohead depressive in many ways but since when depressive songs are such a bad thing? I've been called deppresive for listening to radiohead by many ppl during the past 10 years but it kinda suits my personality and i prefer a honest sad song than a happy tune that is just flat in musical terms. No wonder i love radiohead even though i think they have depressive lyrics , does that make me inmature? ( just read a comment u said) I dont think so, its my personal opinion and trying to question that based on your own taste and sense in music is a bit arrogant my friend.

I still dont find any relation about muse and radiohead to call them " radiohead babies", sure radiohead is radiohead and its an amazing band no one will take that from them ,and have influenced from moby to system of a down (diff genres of music , that's my point ) but then again i can say radiohead are talking head's babies since they had a major influence on them but its unfair to say and not giving them credit for theit own work and effot.

As for the ok computer comment i think its way too much to think they are so obsessed about radiohead when they're not ( they're more influenced by rage agaist the machine btw) and IMHP they dont need an ok computer alike album cos origin of symmetry was their 'ok computer' to me just perfect.

In any case, it's good to exchange opinions and debate from time to time and i'm glad we can keep certain level without going into childish arguments. I appreciate that and i hope you all can do the same.

My position is clear and so is your my friend, i'd recommend not to take things to heart if someone tries to take arguments to a lower level cos its not worth the time ;)

cheers

fair enough, but there's no point to react to your statement. i've already said what i think about it. you just repeated what everyone said/thought before and collected to one big post. but still good post, i appreciate that some fans are going into discussions.

anyway i have some notes:

1. of course it's not a Radiohead forum, how come you mention it? i was refering that there's nothing bad if a band, in this case Muse, get critics. so all those overreactions would be useless. it's "the world of music" which was dead, if will be very honest for a very long time. and i find it very sad when at the first page we find only some games, what are you listening to and bands threads. so i think some exciting threads with some discussions inside can save TWOM.

2. Muse definitely ARE Radiohead babies, but of course not the onliest. Coldplay, Travis, Keane and all those bands who were influenced by RH's work are "RH babies" as well. you can agree or disagree, but it is a fact. same with Radiohead they were being influenced by REM, Pixies, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads...but they could find their own music style. that is what i don't hear in Muse's music, they sound like a mix of other artists. i can't hear what their real sound is, i always hear other artists. opinion. that's why i was saying they are a "growing up" band and i think there's nothing bad with this statement. they are being influenced like everyone else, another question if they'll find their real sound or not. if yes, their music will live forever and we'll hear Muse influenced bands in the future. automatically Muse will be legends, but atm they're very far from it. so that's why i don't stand all those biased Muse comments about how legendary Muse are.
but if not, in 10-20 years, no one will remember who Muse are and maybe the band will split.

3. Showbiz is an OK Computer remake, but seriously...i can't even see any arguments in this point. though i agree that the stuff which came later is indifferent from OKC but still, in some points i hear "wannabe Radiohead, Queen" and not Muse

well, i think we still can keep our discussion without crossing any borders and it's good ;)

[.sally.]

There is one thing, which I really don't understand, why do most Radiohead fans consider it as a negative thing if a band is influenced by them?

[Ondes Martenot]

There is one thing, which I really don't understand, why do most Radiohead fans consider it as a negative thing if a band is influenced by them?

ask them, but don't expect any welcomes

http://ateaseweb.com/mb/

[.sally.]

ask them, but don't expect any welcomes

http://ateaseweb.com/mb/

I know... but that doesn't answer my question. I mean it doesn't have to be a bad thing. It's ok if you dislike Muse but I don't think the fact that they are influenced by Radiohead is a reason to do this. I love Radiohead but if you talk to some of their fans you could think they were the only decent band in the world.

[amsterdam528]

Hmm so now I've heard a decent quality version of the Knights of Cydonia radio edit...

Impressive. Not sure about it's spot as album finisher, but it's definitely a nice song. I'm loving the bridge. Very Queen-like.

[Ondes Martenot]

I know... but that doesn't answer my question. I mean it doesn't have to be a bad thing. It's ok if you dislike Muse but I don't think the fact that they are influenced by Radiohead is a reason to do this. I love Radiohead but if you talk to some of their fans you could think they were the only decent band in the world.

who said that? if it's only a theory then it's very poor. how come you think that Radiohead fans listen only to Radiohead and think RH are the onliest decent band worldwide. there are hell a lot of Muse lovers at RH msgboards even more than you could imagine. you can find at RH msgboards: many Beatles, Flamings Lips, Sigur Ros, REM, Pink Floyd and even some unpopular at those places Oasis, Muse and Coldplay fans.

if you could read my post at the last page you would easily find an answer to your question. there's nothing wrong when someone's being influenced by someone, but a band can't bring the same stuff everytime and just release an album which will be highly appreciated by shit like "NME" or some "fashion fans". but it's only an opinion from a Radiohead fan

[.sally.]

who said that? if it's only a theory then it's very poor. how come you think that Radiohead fans listen only to Radiohead and think RH are the onliest decent band worldwide. there are hell a lot of Muse lovers at RH msgboards even more that you could imagine. you can find at RH msgboards: many Beatles, Flamings Lips, Sigur Ros, REM, Pink Floyd and even some unpopular at those places Oasis, Muse and Coldplay fans.

if you could read my post at the last page you would easily find an answer to your question. there's nothing wrong when someone's being influenced by someone, but a band can't bring the same stuff everytime and just release an album which will be highly appreciated by shit like "NME" or some "fashion fans". but it's only an opinion from a Radiohead fan

This isn't a theory... I know people who think this is true actually, I don't say every Radiohead fan is like this. I accept if anyone dislikes Coldplay or whoever but if they say that they don't like them because they are influenced by another band, I find it pretty ridiculous. I mean it is a positive thing that Radiohead have a huge influence on other bands, even if you dislike them. But some people don't even give them a chance. They compare any of those bands with Radiohead and they'll find all of them really bad.

Alright, I'm gonna read your other posting, I wasn't referring to you, I meant this discussion in general.

But as you said if I asked them, I'd only get negative responses which kinda shows that I ain't that wrong...

[Ondes Martenot]

This isn't a theory... I know people who think this is true actually, I don't say every Radiohead fan is like this. I accept if anyone dislikes Coldplay or whoever but if they say that they don't like them because they are influenced by another band, I find it pretty ridiculous. I mean it is a positive thing that Radiohead have a huge influence on other bands, even if you dislike them. But some people don't even give them a chance. They compare any of those bands with Radiohead and they'll find all of them really bad.

Alright, I'm gonna read your other posting, I wasn't referring to you, I meant this discussion in general.

But as you said if I asked them, I'd only get negative responses which kinda shows that I ain't that wrong...

well fair point , Sally. i know there are many fans who slag off the "newcomers" like CP or Muse just because it's cool, but i'm sure some of them listen to Coldplay, Muse and etc.

[.sally.]

well fair point , Sally. i know there are many fans who slag off the "newcomers" like CP or Muse just because it's cool, but i'm sure some of them listen to Coldplay, Muse and etc.

I know that otherwise you probably wouldn't be here. Those discussions just annoy me because some of those fans wouldn't even admit if they like a band or maybe a song. A friend of mine is like that, that's why I asked.

I read your posts about the Muse album, but I won't comment them before I've actually heard it.

[Knight Of Cydonia]

fair enough, but there's no point to react to your statement. i've already said what i think about it. you just repeated what everyone said/thought before and collected to one big post. but still good post, i appreciate that some fans are going into discussions.

anyway i have some notes:

1. of course it's not a Radiohead forum, how come you mention it? i was refering that there's nothing bad if a band, in this case Muse, get critics. so all those overreactions would be useless. it's "the world of music" which was dead, if will be very honest for a very long time. and i find it very sad when at the first page we find only some games, what are you listening to and bands threads. so i think some exciting threads with some discussions inside can save TWOM.

2. Muse definitely ARE Radiohead babies, but of course not the onliest. Coldplay, Travis, Keane and all those bands who were influenced by RH's work are "RH babies" as well. you can agree or disagree, but it is a fact. same with Radiohead they were being influenced by REM, Pixies, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads...but they could find their own music style. that is what i don't hear in Muse's music, they sound like a mix of other artists. i can't hear what their real sound is, i always hear other artists. opinion. that's why i was saying they are a "growing up" band and i think there's nothing bad with this statement. they are being influenced like everyone else, another question if they'll find their real sound or not. if yes, their music will live forever and we'll hear Muse influenced bands in the future. automatically Muse will be legends, but atm they're very far from it. so that's why i don't stand all those biased Muse comments about how legendary Muse are.
but if not, in 10-20 years, no one will remember who Muse are and maybe the band will split.

3. Showbiz is an OK Computer remake, but seriously...i can't even see any arguments in this point. though i agree that the stuff which came later is indifferent from OKC but still, in some points i hear "wannabe Radiohead, Queen" and not Muse

well, i think we still can keep our discussion without crossing any borders and it's good ;)

Its all good, i just wanted to remark some points mentioned on previous posts concerning this topic and i'm glad we can agree that a good debate is healthy as long as we can keep it in a mature way, i'm all for debates but recently i havent had the chance to do so since the lounge is full of trheads that are not really worth replying in a deeper way so i just keep it short . I'm a radiohead fan myself but i happen to like muse which might be odd for hardcore radiohead fans, and even more odd that i like coldplay ( cos we all know the typical radiohead fan hates coldplay with a passion ) But stereotypes about what a rh fan can or cannot listen is just stupid cos i enjoy coldplay muse and radiohead and i dont care what others say.

Oh, just to answer your questions , i just wanted to enphasy that even though this is a coldplay forum ,most memebers not only listen to coldplay but other bands like muse, radiohead, travis, sigur rós ,etc and since in your previous post you saidns omething like" this isnt a muse forum by the way" i just had to make clear that isnt a radiohead forum either so its all relative, i didnt mean to sound rude in any way just stating a point .I'll change of topic dramatically now but you're totally right, this section of the board is dead sometimes so i'm glad we can have this kind of discussions and exchange opinions, i might not change of mind about what i like but at least i can see things from a different point of view.
I see your point, some bands are meant to fade away and others to last but time will tell. Any band can say they're 100% original cos they're always influended by other bands and like you mentioned so was radiohead. They have their own styles and arent stuck in the same style but it took them a long time to achieve that. It's very hard to find a particular style when it comes to music and have a recognition for it but i think muse has his own style and they're changing with the time which is good, their music style doesnt spin around radiohead in my opinion.Another good example about this is coldplay, i think they have potential but they're stuck in a style i dont like,i just hope they can see what they're doing wrong and correct it .Although coldplay can be called radiohead' babies since they so similar in style but when it comes to muse i certainly dont find any resemblance.
Showbiz was the only indie album imsue recorded in my opinion cos after that they got a different style but if you think that's a ok computer album alike then fine. It's your opinion. i dont think a band really wants to be under the shaows of other bands so saying theyu're just this or that band wannabes its unfair cos that same comparison can be made to any band that exist. Like i said its all relative depending your point of view. ;)

[Ondes Martenot]

Its all good, i just wanted to remark some points mentioned on previous posts concerning this topic and i'm glad we can agree that a good debate is healthy as long as we can keep it in a mature way, i'm all for debates but recently i havent had the chance to do so since the lounge is full of trheads that are not really worth replying in a deeper way so i just keep it short . I'm a radiohead fan myself but i happen to like muse which might be odd for hardcore radiohead fans, and even more odd that i like coldplay ( cos we all know the typical radiohead fan hates coldplay with a passion ) But stereotypes about what a rh fan can or cannot listen is just stupid cos i enjoy coldplay muse and radiohead and i dont care what others say.

Oh, just to answer your questions , i just wanted to enphasy that even though this is a coldplay forum ,most memebers not only listen to coldplay but other bands like muse, radiohead, travis, sigur rós ,etc and since in your previous post you saidns omething like" this isnt a muse forum by the way" i just had to make clear that isnt a radiohead forum either so its all relative, i didnt mean to sound rude in any way just stating a point .I'll change of topic dramatically now but you're totally right, this section of the board is dead sometimes so i'm glad we can have this kind of discussions and exchange opinions, i might not change of mind about what i like but at least i can see things from a different point of view.
I see your point, some bands are meant to fade away and others to last but time will tell. Any band can say they're 100% original cos they're always influended by other bands and like you mentioned so was radiohead. They have their own styles and arent stuck in the same style but it took them a long time to achieve that. It's very hard to find a particular style when it comes to music and have a recognition for it but i think muse has his own style and they're changing with the time which is good, their music style doesnt spin around radiohead in my opinion.Another good example about this is coldplay, i think they have potential but they're stuck in a style i dont like,i just hope they can see what they're doing wrong and correct it .Although coldplay can be called radiohead' babies since they so similar in style but when it comes to muse i certainly dont find any resemblance.
Showbiz was the only indie album imsue recorded in my opinion cos after that they got a different style but if you think that's a ok computer album alike then fine. It's your opinion. i dont think a band really wants to be under the shaows of other bands so saying theyu're just this or that band wannabes its unfair cos that same comparison can be made to any band that exist. Like i said its all relative depending your point of view. ;)

well, the typical Radiohead fans hate Muse even more than Coldplay i think...take a look
http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=91863
http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=91660
i'm sure many of voters didn't even listen to the album yet

Coldplay's early stuff was similar to Radiohead Bends-OKC era, but after they could become a "piano-rock" band...
and after came X&Y...it's another theme, but at least here we agree it was disappointing even for real Coldplay fans. the media overrated the album and thanks to this many people started to hate Coldplay. i have a fear that Coldplay will be the bext U2. this fact would disappoint me a lot...

[Sam]

Although I agree X&Y is pretty darn crap, I still think it is original, most of it at least. Although everybody says that they need to do something original, move away from bla bla bla...

But it is a very different style to AROBTTH and extremely different from Parachutes.

EDIT: and I cannot compare it to Radiohead more than a tiny amount. I do not really understand the comparrisons, the only slght ones I make are the use of Falsetto and Jonny Buckland seems to be extremely influenced by Jonny Greenwood.

[swallowedinamessage]

i have to say that whatever i've read on Radiohead boards and stuff, most of the fans are single minded arrogant ******s. i don't know how radiohead manage to attract them but still its true.

[Ondes Martenot]

i have to say that whatever i've read on Radiohead boards and stuff, most of the fans are single minded arrogant ******s. i don't know how radiohead manage to attract them but still its true.

thank you

and now leave this thread, please

[swallowedinamessage]

*Has now heard Map of the Problematique*

*Is now very happy*

*Still won't download the album*

;) ... no i want to stick with you on not downloading the album. i'm really frustrated its been leaked though. gonna be tough to avoid it now though with everyone else listening to it.

[bedofroses]

well, the typical Radiohead fans hate Muse even more than Coldplay i think...take a look
http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=91863
http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=91660
i'm sure many of voters didn't even listen to the album yet

Coldplay's early stuff was similar to Radiohead Bends-OKC era, but after they could become a "piano-rock" band...
and after came X&Y...it's another theme, but at least here we agree it was disappointing even for real Coldplay fans. the media overrated the album and thanks to this many people started to hate Coldplay. i have a fear that Coldplay will be the bext U2. this fact would disappoint me a lot...


i agree about coldplay...but i honestly think they learnt..and next time they will improve a whole lot..and astound us all

[alyssa]

I don't know, but I like this album... I'm easy to please sometimes. (haha, easy to pl--nvm...)

Mainly for City of Delusion--I think it's my new favorite song. :stunned:

[*andrea*]

for me, is a weak album, just 2 or 3 good songs

[ClearAsCrystal]

Ondes... you have to admit...calling Radiohead lyrics depressive is not immature...its the straight truth.


(the reason my font is in different colors is to emphasize and help it not get lost in all the white of other letter and numbers... and who is to say that your comments are all that great? )

now..

here is some more comprehensive proof.

Let Down (the name in itself is proof enough.. but more emphasis for a boy who just holds Radiohead in the most optimistic of lights...


Transport, motorways and tramlines,
starting and then stopping,
taking off and landing,
the emptiest of feelings,
disappointed people, clinging on to bottles,
and when it comes it's so, so, disappointing.

Let down and hanging around,
crushed like a bug in the ground.
Let down and hanging around.

Shell smashed, juices flowing
wings twitch, legs are going,
don't get sentimental, it always ends up drivel.
One day, I'm gonna grow wings,
a chemical reaction,
hysterical and useless
hysterical and

let down and hanging around,
crushed like a bug in the ground.
Let down and hanging around.

Let down,
Let down,
Let down.

You know, you know where you are with,
you know where you are with,
floor collapsing, falling, bouncing back
and one day, I'm gonna grow wings,
a chemical reaction, [You know where you are,]
hysterical and useless [you know where you are,]
hysterical and [you know where you are,]

let down and hanging around,
crushed like a bug in the ground.
Let down and hanging around.


and I am preeeetty sure that even though these lyrics are damn good to me.. they are enough to make a little kid piss his pants and cry his heart out...

Climbing up the Walls

I am the key to the lock in your house
That keeps your toys in the basement
And if you get too far inside
You'll only see my reflection

It's always best when the light is off
I am the pick in the ice
Do not cry out or hit the alarm
You know we're friends till we die

And either way you turn
I'll be there
Open up your skull
I'll be there
Climbing up the walls

It's always best when the light is off
It's always better on the outside
Fifteen blows to the back of your head
Fifteen blows to your mind

So lock the kids up safe tonight
Put the eyes in the cupboard
I've got the smell of a local man
Who's got the loneliest feeling

That either way he turns
I'll be there
Open up your skull
I'll be there

Climbing up the walls
Climbing up the walls
Climbing up the walls


Don't misinterpret this as me pushing away Radiohead into some dark shell ... I love them and would go straight to Radiohead before Muse.. I just felt your commetary just a bit too much.

[bonita]

i know that's soo true. must not downloooadddd *chants* :wideeyed:

omgomgomg; knights of cydonia has been put up on their myspace page; http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=15049710

my goshhh
IT IS AMAZING
AWJSALJKSRAS;LJFHSD;L
I LOVE THIS BAND SOOOOO MUCH
I WANT TO KILL MYSELF.
:heart:
:uhoh:

[Ondes Martenot]

who said that Radiohead for little kids? for me they are a private band, who don't like them should listen to softer version of RH like Coldplay or Travis. even if you find Radiohead's lyrics depressing what can we say about Muse?

Apocalypse Please

declare this an emergency
come on and spread a sense of urgency
and pull us through
and pull us through
and this is the end
this is the end of the world

it's time we saw a miracle
come on it's time for something biblical
to pull us through
and pull us through
and this is the end
this is the end of the world

proclaim eternal victory
come on and change the course of history
and pull us through
and pull us through
and this is the end
this is the end of the world

:uhoh:

Escape

You would say anything
And you would try anything
To escape your meaningless
And your insignificance
You're uncontrollable
And we are unlovable
And I don't want you to think that I care
I never would, I never could again


Why can't you just love her?
Why be such a monster?
You burn me from a distance
Your brain needs some assistance
But I'll still take all the blame
'Cause you and me are both one and the same
And its driving me mad
And its driving me mad


I'll take back all the things that I said
I didn't realize I was talking to the living dead
And I dont want you to think that I care
I never would, I never could again


You would say anything
And you would try anything
To escape your meaningless
And your insignificance

:uhoh2:

i find these lyrics extremely depressing and i'm not even talking about some pointless lyrics in some songs

what does "Suppermassive Black Hole" mean by the way? come on, at least admit that putting "super" was just waste of time. Massive Black Hole sounds much better for me...

[Lera]

Hmm..Who said "depressing" means "bad"? I like Muse for their depressive songs, yeah, maybe their lyrics are depressive, but what's wrong with that? If you wanna listen to positive songs, listen to Coldplay. What's the point of listening music which you don't like? No point :nice:

[Ondes Martenot]

who said i listen to Muse? i just listened to their latest album and reviewed it, at the same day i deleted it from my PC. no one said depressing equals bad, but who says Radiohead are depressing and Muse not...well, that should think about "how his/her comments biased are"

[Lera]

I think both bands are depressing, that's what I love them for. And Apocalypse Please is one of the best Muse's songs in my opinion.
Btw, I changed my opinion about Supermassive Black Hole, I listened to it a few more times and I think I love it now :uhoh:

[Ondes Martenot]

Btw, I changed my opinion about Supermassive Black Hole, I listened to it a few more times and I think I love it now :uhoh:

you like Britney Spears as well then, don't you?

[swallowedinamessage]

what does "Suppermassive Black Hole" mean by the way? come on, at least admit that putting "super" was just waste of time. Massive Black Hole sounds much better for me...

its just cause Muse are very cool and can do things like that.

i'm getting fed up of entering these threads you've created about muse and seeing them slagged off next to radiohead.

so i will re-address the balance! ..............

Muse Kick Radiohead's Ass Out Of The Window .

[Lera]

you like Britney Spears as well then, don't you?
No.

[swallowedinamessage]

yes i said it would be put there Bonnie honey! :P

it is absolutely stunning even better than i imagined as a studio version! :D

[Ondes Martenot]

its just cause Muse are very cool and can do things like that.

i'm getting fed up of entering these threads you've created about muse and seeing them slagged off next to radiohead.

so i will re-address the balance! ..............

Muse Kick Radiohead's Ass Out Of The Window .

keep comments like yours for the "Muse" thread because you sound like a ****** which you mentioned on the previous page of this topic

[bart]

muse are on the TV next week in the uK prefroming on BBC1 and a guys chat show called Johnathan Ross !

[bonita]

:nice: yeah i kept checking back after you said that, and it's finally there, i've added it to my myspace page too :heart: haha

it is stunning, you are right. it is beyond stunning. muse make me want tokill myself with happiness. :heart: :uhoh:

[bonita]

whos review is that?!!!!!!

ah that annoys me so much to see that. radiohead fucking b sides. muse never have and never will sound anything like radiohead.

we'll see some real reviews about the album and how successful it is when it comes out.

RADIOHEAD AND MUSE ARE NOTHING ALIKE
neverrr
never
neverrrrrrrrrr



I HATE ITTTTT when people compare them. sorry nikky boy, but i can't stand it. each to their own, you hate muse, i understand, but come on, cut some slack for those here who actually like this band.

enough of the queen comparisons and the rh comparisons, muse are their own band, with their own sound, and their own style. i fucking love them to fucking death and i fucking love radiohead too, but please. no comparisons. they are nothing alike.

ps; i still love you nikky boy :nice:

[Knight Of Cydonia]

you like Britney Spears as well then, don't you?
May i ask why that comment? because its unfair and very narrow-minded to think every single person who listen or likes super massive black hole automatically likes britney spears cos what i actually understood by that post was something like " you llike that shitty muse song so your taste in music must be shitty and you probably like crap like britney, etc" which i find offensive. maybe i got it wrong? i dont know but i had that impression.

ps. calling ****** to nigel wont help your cause, he has the same right as you to express his opinion and say he likes muse over radiohead or the other way around.

[amsterdam528]

You think Apocalypse Please is depressing? Apparently, you've never heard it.

While, I as a Radiohead fan as well, do find Let Down and Climbing Up the Walls very dark and depressing... well basically the whole album has a melancholy tone to it. At least Absolution was quick and exciting in most places. OK Computer has... Electioneering?

Of course, OK Computer is a far superior album, but in a much different way.

[bonita]

keep comments like yours for the "Muse" thread because you sound like a ****** which you mentioned on the previous page of this topic

nik. you know i love you. but come on. calling nige a ****** because he's stating his opinion, is pushing it, don't you think?

i thought i saw you write in a previous post that you have the right to a free opinion, and review the muse album as you please.

whether nige says muse are better than rh, and whether you say rh are better than muse, that is irrespective, you are both entitled to like what you like, but putting someone down so much for liking muse is really pushing it...

[amsterdam528]

Hey what?! Yesterday they put up the Radio Edit but now it's the full version!? Awesome! It's even better. :D

[Ondes Martenot]

nik. you know i love you. but come on. calling nige a ****** because he's stating his opinion, is pushing it, don't you think?

i thought i saw you write in a previous post that you have the right to a free opinion, and review the muse album as you please.

whether nige says muse are better than rh, and whether you say rh are better than muse, that is irrespective, you are both entitled to like what you like, but putting someone down so much for liking muse is really pushing it...

he called the RH fans ******s so he isn't welcome anymore here

and i love you too, i just shared my opinion about Muse's album

[Ondes Martenot]

May i ask why that comment? because its unfair and very narrow-minded to think every single person who listen or likes super massive black hole automatically likes britney spears cos what i actually understood by that post was something like " you llike that shitty muse song so your taste in music must be shitty and you probably like crap like britney, etc" which i find offensive. maybe i got it wrong? i dont know but i had that impression.

ps. calling ****** to nigel wont help your cause, he has the same right as you to express his opinion and say he likes muse over radiohead or the other way around.

why don't you read back this thread first and after ask why i called him a ******?

SBH sounds like Britney's "Do Something" so that's why i asked. i have no idea why you think it was offensive

P.S you're taking this thread too seriously, you're starting your personal attacks when i'm only replying to them

[RadioMad]

I like the album, though I still think Showbiz and Origin Of Symmetry are superior.

Might be better than Absolution though...

[Knight Of Cydonia]

why don't you read back this thread first and after ask why i called him a ******?

SBH sounds like Britney's "Do Something" so that's why i asked. i have no idea why you think it was offensive

P.S you're taking this thread too seriously, you're starting your personal attacks when i'm only replying to them

I did read that and that was his opinion about rh fans in general, and if you are memeber of atease or any other board you can tell that's true in some cases, some rh fans can be real pricks that's why other ppl think we're all the same but in that post you pointed out he was a ****** which is a direct attack to him and his opinion and not a general comment, that's my point. I dont mind if you argue with him or any other rh fan but as long as there's respect that goes to everyone else here.

And yes i heard some remix about SBH and that song by britney but assuming someone else likes britney ( and her music in general ) just cos that person likes SBH is just out of place. Especially the way you put it " you like britney spears, dont you?" i understood it as " if you like that kind of music then you have no right to lecture me about what good music is".I explianed my point exactly so you just have to re-read my previous post.

And have i ever attacked you in any way?I'm just debating your comments here the same way i'd do in any other thread if i had someone to question my opinion cos like you said i'm also entitled to have my own opinion about anything, not only concerning to music but anything i feel like talking, free of speech my friend ;)

Of course we have different opinions but that doesnt mean i'm having a go at you, please dont get me wrong and if you got that impression, i didnt mean to.

Now i dont mind if you ppl ( muse fans, radiohead fans) keep arguing but please have respect for other people's opinions. I said what i had to said and i'm sure my point is clear so i'm done with this but as a mod i'll keep an eye on you all cos we dont want this to turn into a childish fight .

[fifi]

I love both, but muse just a bit more!
Haven't heard the new radiohead album yet...
But yea I refuse to have to chose because I enjoy both of their music, just in different ways :)

[Grace]

saw the Supermassive Black Hole video this morning for the first time ... it's very artistic and the song's even better :D

[fifi]

Exo Politics gives my ears orgasms! :heart: :thinking:

[fifi]

I love the album! I was a little unsure when I first heard it because it didn't grab me as much as the previous ones but now it's on repeat constantly! My favourites would have to be exo politics (I'm so glad this made it onto the album as it was my fav from the new live ones they had played!), starlight...loved it as soon as they played it in Dundee, map of the problematique and knights of cydonia :)

I'm not really into a soldiers poem as it just reminds me of unintended. It's like unintended part 2.
Invincible is a pretty good song but the beginning always reminds me of Elbows Grace under pressure!! Anybody else notice that?!?

Anyway I really love the album and it's still the muse we all love and adore :nice:

[fifi]

who said that Radiohead for little kids? for me they are a private band, who don't like them should listen to softer version of RH like Coldplay or Travis. even if you find Radiohead's lyrics depressing what can we say about Muse?

Apocalypse Please

declare this an emergency
come on and spread a sense of urgency
and pull us through
and pull us through
and this is the end
this is the end of the world

it's time we saw a miracle
come on it's time for something biblical
to pull us through
and pull us through
and this is the end
this is the end of the world

proclaim eternal victory
come on and change the course of history
and pull us through
and pull us through
and this is the end
this is the end of the world

:uhoh:

Escape

You would say anything
And you would try anything
To escape your meaningless
And your insignificance
You're uncontrollable
And we are unlovable
And I don't want you to think that I care
I never would, I never could again


Why can't you just love her?
Why be such a monster?
You burn me from a distance
Your brain needs some assistance
But I'll still take all the blame
'Cause you and me are both one and the same
And its driving me mad
And its driving me mad


I'll take back all the things that I said
I didn't realize I was talking to the living dead
And I dont want you to think that I care
I never would, I never could again


You would say anything
And you would try anything
To escape your meaningless
And your insignificance

:uhoh2:

i find these lyrics extremely depressing and i'm not even talking about some pointless lyrics in some songs

what does "Suppermassive Black Hole" mean by the way? come on, at least admit that putting "super" was just waste of time. Massive Black Hole sounds much better for me...
Haha ok I find this so hypocritical. I mean you're a HUGE radiohead fan. They are classed as maybe the most depressing alternative band there is! Yes muse have some depressing songs, but in comparrison to radiohead they're on-par with pop! I know radiohead are a highly political band who do appeal to a mass amount of people who relate to their lyrics and ideas, but muse are expressing their political views and general feelings and if muse's songs are taken any differently then you're not reading into it the right way

As above, Apocalypse please is a very political song and escape is a bitter love song. It's just an expression of feelings put to music and those songs are both more uptempo than radioheads more depressing songs which are almost at a sluggish pace.
Don't get me wrong, I love radiohead, but I think it's foolish to have to make one band more superior...

[Ondes Martenot]

I did read that and that was his opinion about rh fans in general, and if you are memeber of atease or any other board you can tell that's true in some cases, some rh fans can be real pricks that's why other ppl think we're all the same but in that post you pointed out he was a ****** which is a direct attack to him and his opinion and not a general comment, that's my point. I dont mind if you argue with him or any other rh fan but as long as there's respect that goes to everyone else here.

And yes i heard some remix about SBH and that song by britney but assuming someone else likes britney ( and her music in general ) just cos that person likes SBH is just out of place. Especially the way you put it " you like britney spears, dont you?" i understood it as " if you like that kind of music then you have no right to lecture me about what good music is".I explianed my point exactly so you just have to re-read my previous post.

And have i ever attacked you in any way?I'm just debating your comments here the same way i'd do in any other thread if i had someone to question my opinion cos like you said i'm also entitled to have my own opinion about anything, not only concerning to music but anything i feel like talking, free of speech my friend ;)

Of course we have different opinions but that doesnt mean i'm having a go at you, please dont get me wrong and if you got that impression, i didnt mean to.

Now i dont mind if you ppl ( muse fans, radiohead fans) keep arguing but please have respect for other people's opinions. I said what i had to said and i'm sure my point is clear so i'm done with this but as a mod i'll keep an eye on you all cos we dont want this to turn into a childish fight .

yeah good point Ren, sorry if i was too offensive in that post.

but i still disagree about swalloweinamessage's post. calling fans ******s in general means you call a single RH fan ****** as well. well, i did not mention anything about Muse fans and especially did not attack them and not going to, so i found his statement was quite offensive and arrogant. i asked him to leave this thread, but he came back with a quite ridiculous post. first he says that all the Radiohead fans are arrogant ******s, but IMO with his last post he just proved that he is like that as well

about Britney...i think these 2 songs are quite similar to each other and if she says she likes SBH and hates the another one, then that's a bit silly. but however maybe i'm the onliest who think those 2 songs have some similarities. i was only curious in that case

anyway i've finished with this thread and will only reply only if my personality will be attacked

P.S i can hardly imagine there will be any arguments on this board... ;)

[swallowedinamessage]

keep comments like yours for the "Muse" thread because you sound like a ****** which you mentioned on the previous page of this topic

i really don't understand why you created this thread. was it just to have a go at muse or actually try and point out that you're a radiohead fan and you think they are better?

the fact that you also created the radiohead and muse thread saying most people like both but you don't kind of confirms that you do want to compare the two and slam your point that you like radiohead better.

my comment about most radiohead fans being ******s is true, i'm not saying it to get at you but if you visit any radiohead board, it certainly isn't a welcoming place.

unfortunately hearing your comments and listening to you hasn't changed my opinion, you're making very personal attacks on people and its unfair not giving people a chance to express their opinions without making assumptions.

you won't make any friends acting and being the typical radiohead fan here.

[Ondes Martenot]

i really don't understand why you created this thread. was it just to have a go at muse or actually try and point out that you're a radiohead fan and you think they are better?

the fact that you also created the radiohead and muse thread saying most people like both but you don't kind of confirms that you do want to compare the two and slam your point that you like radiohead better.

my comment about most radiohead fans being ******s is true, i'm not saying it to get at you but if you visit any radiohead board, it certainly isn't a welcoming place.

unfortunately hearing your comments and listening to you hasn't changed my opinion, you're making very personal attacks on people and its unfair not giving people a chance to express their opinions without making assumptions.

you won't make any friends acting and being the typical radiohead fan here.

well, you are seriously neet to get out of this thread

I DID NOT CALL ANYBODY ******, FAGGOT OR FUCKER IN THIS THREAD TILL YOU FUCKING CAME AND CALLED THE RADIOHEAD FANS ******S!

if you are not a Radiohead fan then shut the fuck up and stop lying

if you didn't notice we had an argument with Ren, who is being a normal fan and who is ready for arguing about music. you just came with your pointless, offensive comment...so who is making personal attacks?

for me you seem to have a weak personality who can't handle any critics, so i'm not going to argue with you

[swallowedinamessage]

i have heard Exo Politics now, although it was Burning Bandits originally. very good. love that song, the album is just awesome and i think i will be persuaded into listnening to it soon cause of all my mates having it.

i don't want to wear the album out by listening to it too much before it comes out though .. so i'll be careful. :)

Bonnie i get the same feeling, Muse are just pure ecstasy.

[alyssa]

Uhm... anyways...

Anyone like Map of the Problematique? I reeaaallly like it, but it sounds too much like Depeche Mode. Well, at least it reminds me Depeche Mode...

[swallowedinamessage]

i've got the right to be in any thread irrespective of whether you tell me to get out or not.

i never called radiohead fans ******s. i said ....

i have to say that whatever i've read on Radiohead boards and stuff, most of the fans are single minded arrogant ******s. i don't know how radiohead manage to attract them but still its true.

for clarification i'm saying radiohead fans on the radiohead boards are ******s. this wasn't a personal attack directed at anyone, just a point being raised which most will agree with, apart from those radiohead fans.

i wouldn't call myself a radiohead 'fan' but i have their albums and i like them. i've never going to like them as much as muse and some other bands but they are cool.

as for saying i have a weak personality? yeah ok then?!

your definitely one of the typical radiohead fans i was talking about.

Single Minded - Yes
Arrogant - Yes
****** - Yes.

thats a personal attack. goodnight.

[Ondes Martenot]

i've got the right to be in any thread irrespective of whether you tell me to get out or not.

i never called radiohead fans ******s. i said ....



for clarification i'm saying radiohead fans on the radiohead boards are ******s. this wasn't a personal attack directed at anyone, just a point being raised which most will agree with, apart from those radiohead fans.

i wouldn't call myself a radiohead 'fan' but i have their albums and i like them. i've never going to like them as much as muse and some other bands but they are cool.

as for saying i have a weak personality? yeah ok then?!

your definitely one of the typical radiohead fans i was talking about.

Single Minded - Yes
Arrogant - Yes
****** - Yes.


thats a personal attack. goodnight.


i asked you to leave this thread because you couldn't come with any good points. you couldn't defend your Muse and that's why you started to attack me...

i just reviewed an album, in this case it was Muse...hmmm...pech for you.
you're still so ridiculous...if you're calling fans at forums ******s, you call me and many more fans ******s as well...it was the attack no.1

before making a topic off-topic please share some valid points, thank you

and

shut up you ****

[Gitta Rensolo]

pech for you.

whahhahahahahahahahaha........that sounds funny.....sorry a bit off-topic...
I didn't want to disturb you guys:uhoh:

[RICK8]

I agree with you there nik...:nice:

[swallowedinamessage]

Uhm... anyways...

Anyone like Map of the Problematique? I reeaaallly like it, but it sounds too much like Depeche Mode. Well, at least it reminds me Depeche Mode...

fantastic song Alyssa! love it to bits ... have you downloaded the album or are you waiting til its released?

[Sam]

i really don't understand why you created this thread.

I think Nik has said it at least 5 times so far in this thread. Read the first post even, might help a bit.;)

[RICK8]

I just read the whole thing....:dissappointed:

[Ondes Martenot]

I did read that and that was his opinion about rh fans in general, and if you are memeber of atease or any other board you can tell that's true in some cases, some rh fans can be real pricks that's why other ppl think we're all the same but in that post you pointed out he was a ****** which is a direct attack to him and his opinion and not a general comment, that's my point. I dont mind if you argue with him or any other rh fan but as long as there's respect that goes to everyone else here.


just found this during re-reading and extremely wanted to quote it

you call fans pricks because of those "coldplay fans are gay" comments??? read this then...

i hate when people prejudice someone. this happened exactly here in this thread. most of Radiohead fans don't call Coldplay fans gay, those exceptions are little accidents. when it comes to a discussion about Coldplay vs. Radiohead most of people's comments are:

"Radiohead and Coldplay are like apples and oranges. different and not worth to compare them. Radiohead are much better"
"I'm sick of these Coldplay threads..."
"Radiohead is coffee, Coldplay is tea"
"I like both, but comparing them is ridiculous"

if you still call the biggest part of RH fans ******s, then i don't stand you. most of RH fans are intelligent people and even if they don't like Coldplay they explain it without any slagging offs. of course you can find some angry fans who will call you gay and will send you back to your "fucking coldplay.com" but as i said those fans are only rare occasions and prejudicing Radiohead fans generally only because of those 2-3 people is childish because those 2-3 fans can be Coldplay fans as well who come to Radiohead boards very very often...

why do you think the RH fans are fed up with CP fans?
because one of CP fans always comes to a RH board and creates threads like "Coldplay kick Radiohead's arses!!!!!!!!!". the aim is clear...to piss off someone. so don't think that ONLY Radiohead fans can be ******s, please ;)

[an_cat]

Comparisons between bands are to be expected. I don't know why people think that they're pointless. Sometimes I find them pretty interesting, if annoying at times. If I had a penny for everytime I had to explain the differences between U2 and Coldplay on here I'd be a freakin' trillionaire.

Whenever a popular band comes along, people who have an interest in music are going to attempt to emulate them in some way. Even if this is subliminal. Other times it can be glaringly obvious if you listen hard enough. For example, I'm a big Arctic Monkeys AND Libertines fan. In one of the Libertines song's they use the lyric "Reebok classics" and in an Arctic Monkeys song Alex sings "Classic Reeboks". Their sounds are INCREDIBLY similiar. However, I don't get into a tiff about this. I enjoy it, actually. And why shouldn't I? I don't covet one band, my world would get pretty boring that way.

If MUSE is an offspring of Radiohead, then that's ok with me. Fuck me, if I were to have a band I'd want to be an offspring of Radiohead. To me, it's just a natural progression of music. The styles move on through different bands, half the times it's how they gain fans. I know a lot of U2 fans love Coldplay now because they can relate to them, due to the similarities shared with U2's style. They're still different bands though. They're not a tribute/cover band. If they WERE this, then people could geniunly state "They are the next U2" :laugh4:

What am I going on about? I have no fucking clue. But what I'm attempting to say is that who really gives a shit about a band sharing a similiar style? Get over it. If you don't like the band, then good for you. If you do like the band, then good for you. I really could care less.


As for people saying Radiohead is depressing, lmfao. I think that's sort of funny. When I'm depressed, I put on Radiohead and feel BETTER. They don't MAKE me depressed. They nurse me out of my depression. I feel like I can grab onto Thom in my moments of crisis and he can say to me "It's alright, I know how it is...". That's what counts. They do sometimes deal in a dark subject matter, but sometimes this is what you must do to write the songs and style that they want to write. Does singing about things people don't want to hear when they're lying on a beautiful beach make a band depressing? Not in my opinion.




******s of the World, Unite!!!

[bonita]

ah i want to download it so bad... but i want to wait until it comes out.
but i can't stand hearing everyone talk about ittttttt, i know that it will only take time until i give in and download it :wideeyed:

[bonita]

Single Minded - Yes
Arrogant - Yes
****** - Yes.

thats a personal attack. goodnight.

LOL
sorry i had to re-quote this.
:laugh1:

now carry on with your discussion people.

[bonita]

hmm alot of people tend to say that they like rh better because they've had more albums and been around for longer. i don't see why that should affect anything.

i'm not going to diss one and say i hate it like some people like to do, and make it seem as if one is superior to the other, because none is superior to the other.

i love both, radiohead are amazing, but muse have my heart, always have, always will. they have such an energy and passion when they play live, their new clips are fantastique and watching dom drumming away is an amazing site, it makes me want to kill myself with joy. :heart:

edit: so yes, i go for muse. :) not because they are superior in any way, but simply because muse make me feel something which no other band can make me feel

[bonita]

:disappointed: i gave in. i had to download it.

but my gosh.
it is phenomenal.
beyond phenomenal.
my fav right now is city of delusion.
goshhhhhhhhh
:dead:
muse
is just
simply
amazing.
stunning.
beautiful.

the end.

[bonita]

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/2/9/4/8/10388492-10388495-slarge.jpg

:heart: :nice:

[gentleparachute]

Based on track record, RH... They've yet to produce an album that's not been mindblowing/bettered their previous work let alone be a let down. But it's a bit unfair for Muse... c'mon, they're a 3-man band... How can 3 people compete with a group of 5 thoroughly talented and united/harmonious people e.g. Radiohead? They'd lose just through sheer lack of manpower :lol:

[Knight Of Cydonia]

just found this during re-reading and extremely wanted to quote it

you call fans pricks because of those "coldplay fans are gay" comments??? read this then...

i hate when people prejudice someone. this happened exactly here in this thread. most of Radiohead fans don't call Coldplay fans gay, those exceptions are little accidents. when it comes to a discussion about Coldplay vs. Radiohead most of people's comments are:

"Radiohead and Coldplay are like apples and oranges. different and not worth to compare them. Radiohead are much better"
"I'm sick of these Coldplay threads..."
"Radiohead is coffee, Coldplay is tea"
"I like both, but comparing them is ridiculous"

if you still call the biggest part of RH fans ******s, then i don't stand you. most of RH fans are intelligent people and even if they don't like Coldplay they explain it without any slagging offs. of course you can find some angry fans who will call you gay and will send you back to your "fucking coldplay.com" but as i said those fans are only rare occasions and prejudicing Radiohead fans generally only because of those 2-3 people is childish because those 2-3 fans can be Coldplay fans as well who come to Radiohead boards very very often...

why do you think the RH fans are fed up with CP fans?
because one of CP fans always comes to a RH board and creates threads like "Coldplay kick Radiohead's arses!!!!!!!!!". the aim is clear...to piss off someone. so don't think that ONLY Radiohead fans can be ******s, please ;)
First of all , i didnt say rh fans are ******s cos i've been a radiohead fan myself since you were around 4 years old probably ( 1994 to be exact) which gives me the experience of more than 10 years to have my own opinions about some ppl who claim to have the finest taste in music and use it as an argument to bash and put down others. I said " some radiohead fans are real pricks" ( notice i didnt say ******s ), what part of that dont you understand? I said it cos i met ( in real life just to make it clear) some radiohead fans who happen to be friends or mine who really think they're so over the rest and worship radiohead in a real sick way, the kind that use to argue about how political their songs are and the deep dark meaning behind each lyric to the point that thom yorke himself would be ashamed to have such pretentious pricks as fans.

So throughout 10 years i've met more than 2 or 3, just for your information. Another thing was when i started use the net a few years ago and joined some radiohead comunities which had different kind of people but there were also pretencious pricks but unlike real world , it was a waste of time to keep an argument with them since they'd just call you names ( which is a coward way to act as you're hiding behind a pc) I prefer to hear insults in my face in person so i can settle the score right away. Why do i say they were pricks? ( again i'm talking about some radiohead fans and not all like you try to make me sound) because when i ask one of these guys to tell me why he hated sigur rós and saying all sigur rós fans are faggots , he just said " because i say so and its my opinion so fuck you", naturally, i didnt debate with this retard cos it wasnt worth my time. I have more experience with people i met in real and so many anecdotic things i heard about this to prove my point but i dont wanna go on blabbing if its not necessary.

Sorry to disagree once again but you cant hide the sun with 1 finger, meaning that you cnt justify what fans of the band you like talk bullshit. I know there are stupid pricks who are muse fans but i wont stick up for them or say that's just 1 or2 , or even better call them "little accidents" when its clearly not. Just take the alter egos who joined this board for example, did you get to talk to this Tom selleck guy? or with " a few words" guy? They called all radiohead fans fucking ******s with no reason, this guy tom selleck had a go at me just because i had a thom yorke avatar here, is that enough reason to dislike a person? They were annoying r.e.m pricks, there are assholes like that who are hardcore fans or any band u can imagine , i'm not denying that so please next time dont put words i didnt say in my mouth ;)

If you can't stand me for my opinion is up to you Nik, i havent changed my mind about you cos i think we can have a radical exchange of opinions and remain cool but lemme quote this to be more exact "if you still call the biggest part of RH fans ******s, then i don't stand you" please i dare you to quote the exact line where i called ******s to the majority of rh fans. Just try to be more open to critics or opinions that differ from yours because saying you dont stand me for having my own opinion ( which you obviously misunderstood) just shows you arent ready to deal with an open debate and fits more to a 7-year-old kid which i think you are not cos i consider you smart enough to debate about this without taking it to heart.

You have a point when you say ther are ****** from coldplay too, i couldnt agree more, i saw that 3 years ago , well the other way around actually when radiohead fans attacked this board and were posting trheads saying coldplay was shit and we all are stupid for listening to shit like coldplay,i read something similir from coldplay fans on a radiohead board too and i'm sure there are muse fans who do the same and i wont stick up for them, and even if all muse fans or coldplay fans were fucking pricks i couldnt care less cos i'm not and if i want to argue about anything , i'll make sure to have a valid point to back up my opinion. i have my experience in real and online life to say what i said in the first lines of this post.

All in all, i agree there are muse/radiohead/coldplay and many othr bands ******s. Never said all of them but some and that's a fact. I love radiohead and i always will ( i didnt create the radiohead thread cos i think all rh fans are ******, you know )

I hope this is clear now and if thre's something else to reply or debate, i'm all for it, cheers.

[Lera]

Radiohead yes and Muse no
I didn't know you're a RH fan :wacko:

[bonita]

Based on track record, RH... They've yet to produce an album that's not been mindblowing/bettered their previous work let alone be a let down. But it's a bit unfair for Muse... c'mon, they're a 3-man band... How can 3 people compete with a group of 5 thoroughly talented and united/harmonious people e.g. Radiohead? They'd lose just through sheer lack of manpower :lol:

not to mention that this is rh's 7th album, and muse's 4th.
it's unfair to compare them.

muse = :heart: :nice: cut them some slack.

[Ondes Martenot]

not to mention that this is rh's 7th album, and muse's 4th.
it's unfair to compare them.


then compare Radiohead's first 4 works and Muse's first 4 works ;)

[Sam]

Someone supply me with a video on youtube or something of Muse's best. Chop Chop.

I wanna see what all the fuss is about. I've only seen/heard them once and they were running around with silver paint on their faces I think. :\

Haha I sound so demanding.

[bonita]

wow ren. that was intense :stunned:

and well said. :nice:

[bonita]

then compare Radiohead's first 4 works and Muse's first 4 works ;)

but you know i'm still going to swing muse's way, and you're still going to swing radiohead's way.

it's inevitable. we already have preconceived biases and neither of us can be partial when judging these two against the other. ;)

[bonita]

Someone supply me with a video on youtube or something of Muse's best. Chop Chop.

I wanna see what all the fuss is about. I've only seen/heard them once and they were running around with silver paint on their faces I think. :\

Haha I sound so demanding.

lol i don't know, i can't give you one song to fall in love with them. you need to listen to their entire work. ie- entire first album, or second, or third, but please. don't launch into their new album straight away if you don't know their previous stuff sammy boy. :nice:

lemme look, i'll find a good old song.

edit:

muse; new born (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZrxVng6YBc&search=muse) (2nd album)

muse; bliss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDqi6tnr0sY&search=muse) (the title says new born, ignore it, it's bliss) (2nd album)

muse; sunburn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAbiaA1XjZQ&search=muse) (1st album)

muse - hysteria (live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_593-l010U8&search=muse) the first time i heard this i thought "fuckkkkkkk meee" but i'd advise you to hear the original first before hearing the live version because theres alot of screaming in the beginning during the bass riff which is zeee best. (3rd album)

muse; time is running out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_OeNZ0Fnc&search=muse) (3rd album)

[iriden]

As for people saying Radiohead is depressing, lmfao. I think that's sort of funny. When I'm depressed, I put on Radiohead and feel BETTER. They don't MAKE me depressed. They nurse me out of my depression. I feel like I can grab onto Thom in my moments of crisis and he can say to me "It's alright, I know how it is...". That's what counts. They do sometimes deal in a dark subject matter, but sometimes this is what you must do to write the songs and style that they want to write.
As I'm one of those saying RH songs are depressing...just wanted to repeat: that is the feeling I have when I listen to OK Computer..I really don't understand why I cannot have this feeling of wanting to cut my veins when I hear those songs..it's MY opinion, and of course I don't expect all the people in this world to have the same feeling (as you just showed).

So I really laugh at all the people who are so crystallised in what they think that they cannot see the rest of people might not think their same way.

All in all..I just listened two times to BHAR..need to do it some more times and concentrate on the songs :)

[Sam]

Alright I am currently watching this. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=HYfa6lh8zmM&search=muse)
It is "Stockholme Syndrome".
I have to admit it is pretty good, but if I close my eyes, it is instantly just Radiohead.
It is different in the way that the guitar is more rocky and rhythm-based compared to the riff-like guitar of The Bends or OKC.

But the singer is instanlty reminiscent of Thom Yorke.
I'm gonna find more songs now.

EDIT: I'll check out those Bon. :wink2:

[swallowedinamessage]

:disappointed: i gave in. i had to download it.

but my gosh.
it is phenomenal.
beyond phenomenal.
my fav right now is city of delusion.
goshhhhhhhhh
:dead:
muse
is just
simply
amazing.
stunning.
beautiful.

the end.

haha only took an hour between saying you wouldn't download it and then actually doing it ... i have only downloaded Exo Politics. i'm going to take it slow lol

oh thats a very nice pic of them up there :)

[bonita]

i knooowww i couldn't help it. after reading all the random muse threads around at the moment and the muse-bashing that's going on, i had to download it

[Lera]

No... Bonners.... You're a traitor :disappionted:

You're out of law, I'm gonna wait :smug:
















Maybe :uhoh:

[bonita]

hmm okay. if there is anything, then yes the ONLY similarity i can draw is that there is a little similarity between the voices, but still hardly any. hmmm.
the guitar is sooooooooooo unbelievably different, and the bass is so effing different it's crazy, and the drumming, gosh you can't even compare dom's drumming to phil of rh. they are entirely, ridiculously different. the whole thing. it's different.
and matt is a predominant pianist in alot of the songs, muse have ALOT of piano in there songs. as in crazy amounts. it's just. differrrreeennnntttttt. i hate comparisons between the twooo. they are so different it's crazy.

[Sam]

and matt is a predominant pianist in alot of the songs, muse have ALOT of piano in there songs. as in crazy amounts. it's just. differrrreeennnntttttt. i hate comparisons between the twooo. they are so different it's crazy.

Is that in the earlier stuff or later?

[Lera]

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/2/9/4/8/10388492-10388495-slarge.jpg

:heart: :nice:

Mister Dom... :wink3:

[bonita]

hahaha that's exactly what i said valerieee but seeing people rate it 3.8 out of 10 and giving it a complete bashing, i had to download it and have my own piece of mind that the album is the best fucking thing i have heard in my life. :nice:

and damn straight, they did not let me down, even 0.00000000000001%. yep, muse are still rocking as fucking hard as ever, and looking as fucking beautiful as ever.

oh kill me, they are fucking spectacular. :heart:

[swallowedinamessage]

lol good luck Lera. i'm listening to Assasin right now, which was Debase Masons Grog, ... i can't resist any longer. :) its very good!

[bonita]

Mister Dom... :wink3:

oh my that picutre of dom makes me want to......























yes it's those impure thoughts, yet again.
:uhoh:

[bonita]

from beginning to end.
check out sunburn. that's the first track of the first album. haha
they've been using the piano in their entire repertoire. :nice:

[Sam]

Watching sunburn right now.

[Lera]

Naughty Bonners :uhoh:

Can't deny it, Dom is very very.... erm.... handsom :mellow:

And uh.... Muse's new album... I'll try to wait but it'll be damn hard to do :uneasy:

[Ondes Martenot]

First of all , i didnt say rh fans are ******s cos i've been a radiohead fan myself since you were around 4 years old probably ( 1994 to be exact) which gives me the experience of more than 10 years to have my own opinions about some ppl who claim to have the finest taste in music and use it as an argument to bash and put down others. I said " some radiohead fans are real pricks" ( notice i didnt say ******s ), what part of that dont you understand? I said it cos i met ( in real life just to make it clear) some radiohead fans who happen to be friends or mine who really think they're so over the rest and worship radiohead in a real sick way, the kind that use to argue about how political their songs are and the deep dark meaning behind each lyric to the point that thom yorke himself would be ashamed to have such pretentious pricks as fans.


If you can't stand me for my opinion is up to you Nik, i havent changed my mind about you cos i think we can have a radical exchange of opinions and remain cool but lemme quote this to be more exact "if you still call the biggest part of RH fans ******s, then i don't stand you" please i dare you to quote the exact line where i called ******s to the majority of rh fans. Just try to be more open to critics or opinions that differ from yours because saying you dont stand me for having my own opinion ( which you obviously misunderstood) just shows you arent ready to deal with an open debate and fits more to a 7-year-old kid which i think you are not cos i consider you smart enough to debate about this without taking it to heart.



well i can't say how do Radiohead fans act in the real life because i don't have any friends who listen to Radiohead. and just simply because most of people here (teenagers like me) don't even know who Radiohead are. that's shame

there is no another way to argue via internet. if you want to go into a debate you won't see the real faces and won't know the real names. and noboby will meet you in the real life only because you would like to discuss something about a band.

but still after your post, "watchers" who have no idea who are the REAL FANS will think that every Radiohead fan is prick. at least i could pick out only this meaning. of course you said only "SOME", but still the whole thing sounds more like "most of them are pricks". however, your points to the fact that GENERALLY Radiohead fans are pricks (my opinion, and i won't change it). but i appreciate your opinion which you could prove in some ways. unlike the other Muse fans here

and what is the big difference between prick and ******? slagging off is slagging off...

[swallowedinamessage]

oh my that picutre of dom makes me want to......























yes it's those impure thoughts, yet again.
:uhoh:

:stunned: :stunned: :stunned:

[bonita]

don't tell me you don't feel impure when you see that pic of dom in his vest.






















wait.
you're male.
:uhoh:
lollllll

[bonita]

Naughty Bonners :uhoh:

Can't deny it, Dom is very very.... erm.... handsom :mellow:

And uh.... Muse's new album... I'll try to wait but it'll be damn hard to do :uneasy:

it's not my fault dom is so unbelievably handsome and dresses so well and has the cutest hair and is the drumming maestroooo :nice:

haha i'm sure you will give in and download soon. there's still a few more weeks until it's released.

[swallowedinamessage]

lol i feel entirely pure when i see that picture, a musey feeling. not the same dirrty feeling you have .. although if you were to put up a gorgeous girly i may feel the same :)

[Lera]

Ha you know what... I've visited some Rh boards, just to see what real Rh fans are... And I believe they're pretty nice people.

Actually, the only difference between them and Muse fans is the band these people aprecciate.

And they're not so rude, maybe I was just lucky and I've seen the best of them, but they're really not so rude as I thought they are.

Besides, not all of them hate Muse and Muse fans and they even have many threads about them on their boards... That's weird.

Even people who hate Muse have so much stuff about them on the board...

Anyway, many peple there love both bands, just like me, so I think everything's not that bad :wink:

[bonita]

hahaha
how about jolie?
http://www.celebswallpapers.org/pictures/0/30//thumb/320_Angelina_Jolie_celebrities-039.jpg
hmmm.
too many females in this thread.
i need more dom pics :wideeyed:
hahaha