The Muse Thread - Hate This & I'll Hate You

[The Doctor]

Aw, how nice of you! My brother could never be that forward thinking. He said he would buy me an iTunes voucher after I told him that I wanted the TEED album. And I still haven't seen that a week later :laugh3:


yeah,
ohw that sucks

I got even an idea for a card to put the confirmation mail in :wink3: her b-day is the 26th so I don't think I'll have the physical tix by next week :p

[Mark]

To anyone who didn't get tickets, last time round, I got tickets for the arena shows because I thought this was a last chance to see them or something, what with the rumours of them just wanting to do singles, and "scale down". I got tickets for that, for the stadium shows, and then for the Reading performance after that. There will always be another chance to see them. Don't worry too much! :)

[Imke]

I was just able to purchase a second standing ticket via regular sale for Anna Banana (SueDeNimes). :dance:

[Nattatouille]

^You two have a good time. I'm sure you will; you did last time :lol:

[Imke]

^You two have a good time. I'm sure you will; you did last time :lol:

Thank you! :wacky: We will be taking the crazy glasses and whatever silly accessoire Matt comes up this time with us. :lol:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/Beutelratti/61369_10150099304984689_751709688_7141718_2329087_ n.jpg

I will also try to take Anna to the Christmas markets in Hamburg, they're gorgeous. :wacky:

[Nattatouille]

^ Hah, I can't wait to see the fashion choices of 2nd Law Era; I feel like they are going to top what we have seen so far.

I love the glasses though :thumbsup:

Ohh I bet they are; my parents always go on about them and show pictures of them to us each Christmas (sometimes my Mum is like 'it's a shame you can't remember'-- I was 6 months old :rolleyes:)

[Imke]

I hope it's not too embarrassing ... the glasses were okay, but what if - for example - he comes up with a pink tutu? :P

Hahaha, of course you don't remember, but maybe you could refresh your memories one day. :wacky:

[Nattatouille]

^To be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if one day Dom wore a tutu-- it's such a Dom thing to do :lol: With Matt though, who knows? :laugh3:

One day I will; I've already said to myself I'm going to start putting money aside so I can go travelling a bit. Time it right and I will see it no doubt.

[Imke]

Yeah, it's a Dom-thing, haha. :anxious:

That is awesome, travelling is one of the best things there is.

[Nattatouille]

Dom isn't all bad. His coloured skinnies thing is awesome-- as an individual that wears coloured skinny jeans, it makes me proud. He's like a role model :lol:

Yeah, now I have finished uni I can do things like that... Eventually.

[Megalomania]

The site Muse used for their North American presales last tour. It worked out pretty well. Most tickets were GA. You didn't have to register or anything for it so there were still lots of scalpers, but lots of casual fans didn't know the site even existed.

Ah, thank you. I didn't do the presale when I bought tickets so I have no experience with it. :P


I'm so sorry that you didn't get tickets Kelly. :hug: I really am trying wrap my mind around how such a large arena could get sold out so quickly.

[Megalomania]

Just saw this on tumblr. Disgusting.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5m5rnWbpr1qjd9zyo1_500.jpg

[Blue Nails]

^That is unbelievable. :stunned:

Managed to get tickets with the link in the e-mail this morning. (Had no luck with the lottery thing either.) I heard a lot of people who didn't get any though. :(

Edit: mine were about 5 euros cheaper than Coldplay tickets.

[Nattatouille]

Just saw this on tumblr. Disgusting.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5m5rnWbpr1qjd9zyo1_500.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Bitch please; I have a better block than that. And 2 tickets. If I had to sell I wouldn't even want to rip anyone off like that.

Not that they will sell. :smug:

[Hysteria]

Do these sellers honestly think that people are prepared to pay that sort of price?!

ETA: Just made them an offer
...99p.

[Nattatouille]

ETA: Just made them an offer
...99p.

More realistic than their price :laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

[Coeurli]

omg guise, I was at a Fnac store this afternoon and looking through CDs and I saw Showbiz and when I saw the tracklist my mind went "oooooh!!! :surprised: "
I finally understand what the title of the thread really means! :awesome:
:lol:

[Hysteria]

There's a guy on .mu selling 4 standing tickets for the second night at O2. He's never posted on there but has been a member since 2009. Should I go for it? :P

[James.]

omg guise, I was at a Fnac store this afternoon and looking through CDs and I saw Showbiz and when I saw the tracklist my mind went "oooooh!!! :surprised: "
I finally understand what the title of the thread really means! :awesome:
:lol:

:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

[Nattatouille]

There's a guy on .mu selling 4 standing tickets for the second night at O2. He's never posted on there but has been a member since 2009. Should I go for it? :P

I'm not sure; never posting. Is it listed on Musebay?

Thing is I would be dubious getting tickets this early because we don't have any real confirmation. The GigsandTours confirmation email is so easy to fake as is SeeTickets. Ticketmaster and Crowdsurge are harder-- but still easy enough with a bit of time.

[Hysteria]

Yeah, from Musebay. I've emailed him and he's going to send the confirmation email, so I don't know, he seems pretty genuine.

[Black Rose]

Many tickets being sold by the promoter on viagogo or that other dodgy site?

[Nattatouille]

^ Yeah, there's over 1000 tout listings on GetMeIn, Viagogo, Gumtree and ebay.

[SueDeNimes]

Thank you! :wacky: We will be taking the crazy glasses and whatever silly accessoire Matt comes up this time with us. :lol:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/Beutelratti/61369_10150099304984689_751709688_7141718_2329087_ n.jpg

I will also try to take Anna to the Christmas markets in Hamburg, they're gorgeous. :wacky:I've still got a buttsaver :lol:
And in December I can bring the emergency blanket you sent me!!!! :awesome:
Can't thank you enough for buying the ticket for me.
When I couldn't proceed to paying with the one I had in the cart I was like this already --> :bigcry:

That is awesome, travelling is one of the best things there is.Agreed!
So looking forward to see you again! :kiss:

[domscientist]

this album is gonna be so ridiculous it will be awesome

[Nattatouille]

These days the thread is so quiet... I remember the times during last summer holiday when I'd refresh and there would be pages.

Good times.

[Violet]

Don't worry, Natt. I'm sure the thread will pick up soon enough. :nice:

[Corkus]

These days the thread is so quiet... I remember the times during last summer holiday when I'd refresh and there would be pages.

Good times.
Ah yes, the days of me posting "So this cool Muse-related thing happened to me today..." like every day. Not gonna have that this year since I won't be seeing them this year (unless they do the 10-song-set holiday circuit again like in 2009).

Rumors of a new single this week but I'm skeptical.

[Nattatouille]

Don't worry, Natt. I'm sure the thread will pick up soon enough. :nice:

It's probably because I'm on holiday and am lurking so I am always like WHERE IS EVERYONE :lol:

Ah yes, the days of me posting "So this cool Muse-related thing happened to me today..." like every day. Not gonna have that this year since I won't be seeing them this year (unless they do the 10-song-set holiday circuit again like in 2009).

Rumors of a new single this week but I'm skeptical.

Yeah I heard that too-- that it should be tomorrow night on Zane Lowe's show. But I follow Zane on Twitter and he hasn't said anything one way or another. Lots of people are saying that the Beeb have confirmed it but I see no real source of confirmation.

I'm not saying it is impossible but I'm not staying in and listening to Zane just in case. Plus my brother is back from Ibiza so I'd imagine my house is going to be busy :dozey:

[Hysteria]

If it is true, it will probably leak before anyway, like earlier in the day. I think I remember this happening with Uprising in 2009.

[Nattatouille]

^True.

I want it to be true just so I can hear what it is like so I get a vibe on the album... Maybe so I can psyche myself up for September and October. :laugh2:

[Corkus]

And whaddya know, one of the countless baseless Muse rumors actually came true. New single tomorrow on Zane Lowe. Check local times accordingly.

[James.]

And whaddya know, one of the countless baseless Muse rumors actually came true. New single tomorrow on Zane Lowe. Check local times accordingly.

Oh, was this confirmed? I've been trying to keep up to date with things on .mu but that place is crazy :lol:

[Nattatouille]

^ Apparently so...

7.30pm then on Zane's show. Right.

[ColdplayKen]

when can we expect it on Itunes for purchase?

can't wait anyway :lol:

[Corkus]

when can we expect it on Itunes for purchase?

can't wait anyway :lol:
Apparently shortly after it gets played, though U.S. iTunes Store is stupid and usually waits until Tuesdays to put new releases on sale. Regardless, you can probably download it on .mu sooner than iTunes.

[Nattatouille]

It has been announced by NME now so it's official, official.

It's Unsustainable being aired at 7.30pm.

[Tomato Sauce (http://www.nme.com/news/muse/64556)]

[ColdplayKen]

Apparently shortly after it gets played, though U.S. iTunes Store is stupid and usually waits until Tuesdays to put new releases on sale. Regardless, you can probably download it on .mu sooner than iTunes.

:\ hopefully they put it there soon

but thanks though :)

can't wait til they come to States so I can see them again

[Violet]

It has been announced by NME now so it's official, official.

It's Unsustainable being aired at 7.30pm.

[Tomato Sauce (http://www.nme.com/news/muse/64556)]

:bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

I need this. No, really, I do. After listening to the horror that is Maroon 5's latest album, I need a revival. Muse, don't let me down.

[Corkus]

To be fair, that is totally your fault for expecting a Maroon 5 album to be something other than a "horror". :P

[Megalomania]

I've never listened to Maroon 5.

I'm actually kind of excited to hear this single, I hope it's good.

[Violet]

To be fair, that is totally your fault for expecting a Maroon 5 album to be something other than a "horror". :P

They've been one of my favorite bands since high school. Their three previous albums are awesome. Therefore, I expected as much from this one. The only fault I have is that I didn't take the warning signs (Adam Levine saying it'd be their "poppiest" album yet, Wiz Khalifa being featured, etc.) seriously. But enough about that. I'll save my epic Maroon 5 rant for the Maroon 5 thread.

[Nattatouille]

They've been one of my favorite bands since high school. Their three previous albums are awesome. Therefore, I expected as much from this one. The only fault I have is that I didn't take the warning signs (Adam Levine saying it'd be their "poppiest" album yet, Wiz Khalifa being featured, etc.) seriously. But enough about that. I'll save my epic Maroon 5 rant for the Maroon 5 thread.

Maroon 5 has been my guilty pleasure as well. And I agree-- although I thought the third album was a little :\ I felt it in my waters that this album wasn't going to be nice so I avoided it... Rather glad I did :lol: Sorry it was such a disappoint.


Christina I :heart: your icon.


Also ColdplayKen-- I noticed you are seeing Bruce Springsteen in September-- enjoy that! He was excellent on Sunday and played for 3 hours

[Hysteria]

I used to listen to Maroon 5 too. But Moves Like Jagger is up there in my "Top 10 Songs I Hate" list. :P

Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing this new single. Apparently it's Olympics related.

[Nattatouille]

^ Yeah I don't know how much of that is true. I can't put the song name and an olympics theme together. Idek, Muse always surprise me.

[Nattatouille]

New update:

'New song 'Survival' has been selected by the Olympics to be the main official song for the London 2012 Olympics

Matt wrote the song with the Olympics in mind - it's about total conviction and pure determination to win

The song will be played throughout the games within stadiums and on international sports TV coverage.' (From their Twitter)

The artwork and font is hideous imho.

http://muse.mu/upload/image/cms/Musewebsitebanner_2-1.jpg

[Hysteria]

It's pretty cool that it's been chosen to be the official Olympics song!

But wow that artwork is terrible. :| But to be fair, can't blame them for the font, as it's the actual font being used for the Olympics.

[The Final Track]

I thought First Steps by Elbow was gonna be the Olympics song? :thinking:
edit: You can listen to a preview for what seems to be Survival here: 'Survive' by Muse will be played in the #Olympic stadium. Here's a little taste (c Muse/2012)

Yes, the lyrics acutally are "I will win".

[Nattatouille]

^Yeah I just heard it.

It's like they've gone full gorgonzola on us.

'I'll light the fuse
I'll never lose'

M'bellz your writing talent floors me. It's Chris Martin-esque genius.

[Megalomania]

idk the lyrics might not be amazing but I like it (from the 20second clip at least), it's catchy

[Megalomania]

also the first official picture of 2nd Law Era (wooooo)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6a5k5WlB01qennsdo1_500.jpg

[ColdplayKen]

Also ColdplayKen-- I noticed you are seeing Bruce Springsteen in September-- enjoy that! He was excellent on Sunday and played for 3 hours

thank you :)

and as for the Olympic artwork..................:stunned: almost as bad as the mascots

I'm a bit worried though. the article says it will be played at 7:30 on Radio 1. Is this the song they were talking about and not a single from The Second Law :\

[Hysteria]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6a6bn0U3G1qh92tvo2_500.jpg

:awesome:

[Nattatouille]

thank you :)

and as for the Olympic artwork..................:stunned: almost as bad as the mascots

I'm a bit worried though. the article says it will be played at 7:30 on Radio 1. Is this the song they were talking about and not a single from The Second Law :\

Yeah; basically the radio were under the impression that they were playing Unsustainable. They were wrong-- it's Survival being played tonight. And we're not sure if it will be on the album or not.

[Megalomania]

That's a bit disappointing, I was looking forward to the new album single and like you said we don't even know if this WILL be on the album

[Nattatouille]

I would've liked us to hear a definite album track too... At least that way we would have an idea of where the era was headed.

With a single that could be a standalone that was made for the Olympics it will have the same(ish) era vibes but won't give us that much of a representation. Just look at NSC comparatively to the rest of TR.

[Nattatouille]

Here's an official 30 second clip: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18607319

Sounds better than the leak did. I have some more faith than I did 3 hours ago with the leak.

[Megalomania]

That clip sounds more like them.

although tbh I'm not a fan of what sounds like the backing vocals

[Nattatouille]

^It sounds like a choir. I'm not sure. I need to hear the whole thing because at the moment I'm feeling uneasy.

Not Coldplay MX uneasy, but close.

[Hysteria]

Falsetto. :dazzled:

[Violet]

I'm not gonna listen until the full song comes out. Which, if I'm not mistaken, comes out in less than 2 hours. :dance:

Also, the pictures. OH MY DARLING CHRIS HOW I'VE MISSED YOU. :dazzled:

I don't have problems. Nope, not at all.

[bart]

Muse - Survival | Longer BBC Clip - YouTube 40 seonds...

[Nattatouille]

I'm not gonna listen until the full song comes out. Which, if I'm not mistaken, comes out in less than 2 hours. :dance:

Also, the pictures. OH MY DARLING CHRIS HOW I'VE MISSED YOU. :dazzled:

I don't have problems. Nope, not at all.

You're right. It is now 80 minutes. And then available to purchase in 140 minutes or so.

:lol: Oh Violet.

[bart]

this song I know will have some importance in my life.....

[42JTR]

Want to listen the whole song!:D Haven't and won't listen the clip. The song will premiere on BBCRadio 1 in about 30 mins right?

[nouratan]

...

waiting for the new song is harder then i thought

[Megalomania]

my dashboard (tumblr) wasn't even this Muse-y when they were doing the torch run. :freak:

[R's Symphony]

Never a huge Muse fan, but really interested in this :) Can't wait

[Violet]

^ I'm still bummed that I didn't even hear about this until after it had already happened. :disappointed:

[shesawsparks]

Five minutes to go everyone!!! :bomb:

[Mrk]

Can I have a link for the radio airing, please?

[42JTR]

omg 2 mins never been this excited since the premiere of ETIAW:D:D

[R's Symphony]

link please :)

[42JTR]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/#_

[ColdplayKen]

so it's on The 2nd Law :stunned:

[R's Symphony]

Hmmmmm

[Megalomania]

............

[42JTR]

Those background voices.... :thinking:

[ColdplayKen]

umm. so it's not Dubstep

BUT IT'S EPIC when the stupid backup singers stop

[Megalomania]

idk if I like it tbh

[42JTR]

stupid background singers omg they should cut that out....

[R's Symphony]

Epic guitar, I couldn't care less for those backround voices
Idk if I like it either :\

[ColdplayKen]

stupid background singers omg they should cut that out....

exactly. huge mistake

[shesawsparks]

Epic guitar is epic! :awesome:

[Megalomania]

Actually, yeah. I'd like it MUCH better if they'd cut out the background singers, ugh

don't like that last note either

[42JTR]

hmmm.... Don't know what to think about this...

[Megalomania]

OH THEY'RE THERE

[ColdplayKen]

ugh. not a big fan

now that I'm done talking about Zane. the song is ok

[R's Symphony]

Thank God for that guitar, it saves the song from..... Well itself. Its ok I guess, I'll have to listen to it again

[42JTR]

Yea maybe needs to grow on me by hearing it more often. Guitar as epic as always but the rest... meh

[Hysteria]

IT'S A RACE AND I'M GONNA WIN, YES I'M GONNA WIN

[Megalomania]

I'm hearing a ton of comparisons to Queen, I don't really see it except maybe the guitar?

[Mrk]

I really liked the guitar solo, but the rest of the song for me is garbage, sorry. :(

Maybe if I listen to it a few more times, I'll like it

[ColdplayKen]

Zane just described the first single as mellow with a big ending

[R's Symphony]

So main opinion is it's a potential grower... Anybody truely in love with it?

[Megalomania]

I think I definitely need to hear it more, but my first impression is just. . . meh. It's not terrible but it's far from their best.

and the lyrics omg :bigcry:

[Megalomania]

I forgot how fast he talks. D: I thought Benedict Cumberbatch talked a lot.

[R's Symphony]

I think I definitely need to hear it more, but my first impression is just. . . meh. It's not terrible but it's far from their best.

and the lyrics omg :bigcry:

As for the lyrics they're Olympic themed. I don't think they reflect the overall theme of 2nd law

[Megalomania]

THIS PRELUDE, I LIKE IT

ANOTHER!

[Hysteria]

Well I really liked the beginning with the strings and the guitar parts. The lyrics are terrible. :|

[Mrk]

Am I the only one who found Matt's voice quite weird? :thinking:

[ColdplayKen]

hopefully this play will be better

[Megalomania]

As for the lyrics they're Olympic themed. I don't think they reflect the overall theme of 2nd law

No I know that, but lyrics can still be about an event and be a bit more quality imo D:

[42JTR]

hopefully this play will be better

indeed, listening again...

[ColdplayKen]

Am I the only one who found Matt's voice quite weird? :thinking:

I didn't reallyt think it was him in the beginning :lol:

but this stupid first backround vocal part is so damn annoying

[42JTR]

Please background voices shut up !! It will make the song much better.

[R's Symphony]

No I know that, but lyrics can still be about an event and be a bit more quality imo D:

Yeah, I'd agree with that. I didn't get a great listen though, I was just trying to enjoy the music and block out the backround vocals

[Megalomania]

I don't like the shouty bits or the background singers but other than that I'm liking it more the second time.

[shesawsparks]

Love the prelude - would like the song a lot more if it weren't for the stupid backing voices i think.

[ColdplayKen]

the best part of the song is definetly when the guitar first comes out

[Hysteria]

This is definitely a grower

[Nattatouille]

Basically:

- Lyrics are pure cheese. Sugar coated cheese. Injecting cheese into your veins.
- The prelude is really nice, super expansive and all like WHOAA.
- The choir are scary as bollocks. It sounds like they are all possessed. We need an exorcism up in here. They kill the mood.
- Matt's voice is all over the range. It's like he didn't really know where to play. It reminds me of (someone smite me for saying this) Jessie J.
- Guitar riffs are pretty good.
- There are so many ideas going on here. Just too many. Fuck's sake, I feel like we are through every emotion and thought in 5 minutes. Which might work in terms of it being Olympic-y but it makes have a headache.



So in conclusion: not their worst. Not their best. Meh. It's a pretty decent Olympic track though.

I'll hate it by the end of the summer coverage-- odds on.

[ColdplayKen]

I don't like the shouty bits or the background singers but other than that I'm liking it more the second time.

the truth. Maybe I can ask Matt to take them off the record :dozey:

[Megalomania]

Yeah I agree Kelly

but seriously whose idea was it for the background singers it really detracts from the song

I'm kind of surprised Matt can still sing that high, but if you listen carefully there are some spots where his voice doesn't quite hold

[42JTR]

I'm gonna listen it again later this evening, this second time is already a bit better though.

[shesawsparks]

Another thing:

Second half of the song >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first half.

[ColdplayKen]

Basically:

- Lyrics are pure cheese. Sugar coated cheese. Injecting cheese into your veins.
- The prelude is really nice, super expansive and all like WHOAA.
- The choir are scary as bollocks. It sounds like they are all possessed. We need an exorcism up in here. They kill the mood.
- Matt's voice is all over the range. It's like he didn't really know where to play. It reminds me of (someone smite me for saying this) Jessie J.
- Guitar riffs are pretty good.
- There are so many ideas going on here. Just too many. Fuck's sake, I feel like we are through every emotion and thought in 5 minutes. Which might work in terms of it being Olympic-y but it makes have a headache.



So in conclusion: not their worst. Not their best. Meh. It's a pretty decent Olympic track though.

I'll hate it by the end of the summer coverage-- odds on.

:lol: sums it up perfectly

[Hysteria]

That high note at the end makes me laugh.

[ColdplayKen]

Another thing:

Second half of the song >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first half.

:nod:

he said it's the only one that sounds like this on the album

bullet dodged

[Megalomania]

That high note at the end makes me laugh.

omfg same

I could see Matt saying "Hey Dom how should I end this song?" and then Dom saying as a joke "JUST SING REALLY REALLY HIGH" and then he actually did it. :|

I do like that Chris is actually talking, this is nice

[Megalomania]

I'm not sure if this link will work for everyone but try it

here (http://a.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ah6q1Ix41rtpoezo1.mp3)

right click, save as

[rainplay]

I wanna hear it!

[shesawsparks]

omfg same

I could see Matt saying "Hey Dom how should I end this song?" and then Dom saying as a joke "JUST SING REALLY REALLY HIGH" and then he actually did it. :|

I do like that Chris is actually talking, this is nice

LMAO i can just picture this happening in the studio when it was being recorded. :laugh3:

OMG, so good to hear them being interviewed again. :wacky:

[rainplay]

Mmmkay, don't think I like it..

[Nattatouille]

omfg same

I could see Matt saying "Hey Dom how should I end this song?" and then Dom saying as a joke "JUST SING REALLY REALLY HIGH" and then he actually did it. :|

I do like that Chris is actually talking, this is nice

YES.
:lol:

Bigger emphasis on groove? Hrm, don't know what to make of that.

[ColdplayKen]

did he just say disco-ey :stunned:

[Violet]

I haven't heard it yet, but the reactions I'm reading here are making me nervous. :uhoh:

[Nattatouille]

I haven't heard it yet, but the reactions I'm reading here are making me nervous. :uhoh:

Eh, it's not the best, not the worst.

Some of the worry and panic was founded, others not so much.

[Hysteria]

Did they say Panic Station is a disco jazzy brass song?

[ColdplayKen]

Did they say Panic Station is a disco jazzy brass song?

that's what I heard :thinking:

Muse - Survival - London 2012 Olympics Song - +Prelude - Full - YouTube

the saving grace of this song might be 2:25

[The Doctor]

not a bad song
I just hear a lot of Queen in this song with the voice of Matt

[ColdplayKen]

it's starting to warm up to me. just wish they cut the beginning part *not the prelude, that thing is damn amazing* out or made it smaller. and less of the choir

[Nattatouille]

Did they say Panic Station is a disco jazzy brass song?

Yes. :stunned:

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

Pretty cool song, but I think it's a bit loud/aggressive to be an Olympic theme jaja. I kind of enjoyed the loud bombastic-ness of it, but it doesn't quiet speak to me like most Muse songs do. I kind of like it on first listen though. The prelude's amazing too.

Honestly, I feel like ETIAW would make the perfect Olympic song, is that weird of me? It's got a good rebellion/let's-kick-some-ass feel, esp in the second verse (although I guess ETIAW is predicated on things kind of sucking in certain ways).

[watd]

What to say about this? Honestly music for retards.

[Mrk]

Another thing I don't like of this song is that it could have easily been on The Resistance (because of the orchestrated arrangement and the obvious Queen influences)

[Cheese Nip 2]

So far I'm impartial to this song. The choir doesn't really annoy me that much, but there's to much going on. This could be helped if it had a really good mix, but I also think it's lacking in that aspect. I don't like the way Matt sings towards the end. Kind of sounds like he's goofing off or something. And I usually don't hate on lyrics but these are pretty cheesy.

The instrumentation is great though and the writing is alright. So yeah, maybe after a few listens, but upon first listen I'm impartial.

[Blue Nails]

It's an OK song, and suitable for the Olympics. It didn't suprise me much.
Not great, not bad. :shrug:

[Corkus]

Every Teardrop Is a Muserfall :embarrassed:

[Megalomania]

I wouldn't say it's that bad

[Hysteria]

^ This. I actually like it. :P

[Abracadabra]

The choir should loosen up a bit. It's too tense to listen to, idk. Shame for the prelude, it's quite something.

[Violet]

...

...

Call me stupid, but I'm enamored with "Survival."

Yes, you heard right. Enamored. It has so many things that I love in music. A common complaint is that there's too much going on. I've always loved stuff where you can dissect it and hear so many different things going on. It's why I like Baroque music so much; its use of polyphony and ornamentation makes you pay attention to what's going on instead of getting bored with it.

People have also complained that they don't like the choir. I, for one, am a huge fan of choral music (especially sacred choral music, which is weird in itself because I'm not religious, but that's another topic entirely), and I think it gives the song some depth. The amount of piano in there is pleasing to me as well, even though I felt like it could've been emphasized more in a few spots.

I'm not saying it's perfect, because it's not. When I heard it the first time (Thanks to Christina for the link, BTW), I wasn't sure it was Matt who was singing until it got to the first "I'M GONNA WIIIIIN." The first half doesn't sound like Matt at all. While I imagine a lot of that is because he doesn't sing in his lower register all that much, it was still kinda weird for me. Having said that, I agree with someone's previous comment (I think it was Sarah?) about the second half being much better than the first half.

So yeah. I'm a fan. I love it. Say what you want. Muse, welcome back. :heart:

[ColdplayKen]

wow. now I can't get this song out of my head :laugh3:

I'm over the stupid backround vocals and in love with Matt in the song.

definetly a grower :P

[The Final Track]

I think I like it :wacko: Don't have a problem with the backing vocals. Sounds a lot like Queen, tho.

[James.]

This is epic :awesome: definitely beats the shit out of NSC and Guiding Light no matter what. That guitar solo :awesome: Only bit I'm not keen on is the backing vocals... at the "Race, it's a race" part I can't stop thinking of Bicycle Race by Queen...
Except it sounds like the choir is singing "Troll Ride, Troll Ride, Troll Ride..." :wtf:

[R's Symphony]

Can anybody add the prelude to the song? I bought it on Itunes, but it didn't have the epic prelude :\

[James.]

Can anybody add the prelude to the song? I bought it on Itunes, but it didn't have the epic prelude :\

I expect that will be only on the album... like Intro and Interlude on Absolution.

[Violet]

Except it sounds like the choir is singing "Troll Ride, Troll Ride, Troll Ride..." :wtf:

Actually, the choir (the male bit, anyway) is singing, "I told you so."

[James.]

http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?p=9663656#post9663656
This interview is pretty interesting by the way... they talk about some of the other songs on the album... apparently Panic Station will be a jazzy 80s style song :wtf:

[para-para-parrotdies]

This is quite possibly the worst song of 2012.

:sick2:

Even worse than Best Coast's The Only Place.

[Violet]

I never could get into Best Coast. :shrug:

[Corkus]

Best Coast was a fun meme for a while. I even own the official Snacks the Cat plush.

Then she made a statement about how she wants to stop being known as the crazy indie cat lady who talks about weed, so then people completely stopped caring about her and realized how boring she is live.

[Violet]

Hey, Michael, I was just thinking about you. You said the new Muse song was "Every Teardrop Is a Muserfall." Would you consider doing what you did for ETIAW and writing a parody?

[Prospector]

I liked the song in the begining, really it's an olympic theme, if it didn't had all that choir, strings and things it would sound weird :p, but then the song started to sound just more and more weird, it's kind of cheassy in some parts, reminds a bit of Queen, not one of their bests, but not their worst either. I have mixed feelings....I will listen to it more times this week, I'm really not sure if I love it or hate it, it's just weird.

[Corkus]

Hey, Michael, I was just thinking about you. You said the new Muse song was "Every Teardrop Is a Muserfall." Would you consider doing what you did for ETIAW and writing a parody?
Already did it. Like, 30 minutes after the song first aired on Zane Lowe.

[MosesTheMarshmallow]

It doesn't sound much like Queen to me. :(

I also don't like how the piano kind of disappears when the guitar solos and other stuff kind of cuts in.

[Violet]

Already did it. Like, 30 minutes after the song first aired on Zane Lowe.

Then why haven't you shared it with us yet!? I wanna see it.

[Lisset]

i think it's an ok song, i mean i didn't love it but i didn't hate it , i just think that i won't listen to it really often , still it's a good olympics anthem, just my opinion :)

[Violet]

Accomplishment of the day: Learning "Survival" in its entirety, complete with instrumental riffs (using horn on the first and trumpet on the second).

[shred]

that's what I heard :thinking:

Muse - Survival - London 2012 Olympics Song - +Prelude - Full - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt__jKWoYH8)

the saving grace of this song might be 2:25
It sounds very old school that. Or maybe it's just me.

I don't hear anything from Resistance in it. :laugh3:

[shesawsparks]

This song is such a grower. I wasn't too sure what I thought about it the first time I heard it, but now I've had a few more listens I think I love it! It's completely OTT and bonkers, but that was one of the things that first made me fall in love with Muse. It's bombastic and not in the least bit subtle which is exactly what a song for the Olympics should be IMO. As someone else said (can't remember who, sorry) i'm completely over the backing vocals at the start of the song now. The guitar is great and while it makes me LMAO I think the high-pitched, "I'm gonna WIIIIIN!" actually makes it TBH. :D

Welcome back Muse!!!:D

[Nattatouille]

I stand by what I said earlier.

All I can imagine is that Matt will sing this in a sparkling, LED Union Jack suit whilst boyband air-grabbing with fireworks and confetti.

It's as overdramatic as a bad soap opera.

[Abracadabra]

I think it's supposed to be very dramatic just by being an Olympic anthem.

[lisaw23]

It sounds very old school that. Or maybe it's just me.

I don't hear anything from Resistance in it. :laugh3:


I completely agree

[Mark]

It sounds very old school that. Or maybe it's just me.

I don't hear anything from Resistance in it. :laugh3:

Really?

Piano style = I Belong To You
The idea of "+ Prelude" resonates with the "+" Codas/interludes, Collateral Damage and Mon Coeur S'Ouvre A Ton Voix
The chord progression begins in the same way as Eurasia
The delivery of the vocal is quite Uprising - aggressivish, low, like fighting talk, almost


That's just me, but I thought it was very Resistance... but at the same time... approached differently to different to anything before.

Bit of a lot in there though; Absolution strings, Origin build, Black Holes solo, Showbiz... Nah they'll never do anything like that again.

[Prospector]

OK, i got what I don't like about it, Survival just tries to hard to be huge, awesome and amazing...it makes United States of Eurasia almost seems like a Bon Iver intimist song. It was build to be a huge hymn, something between We Are The Champions and a classical piece but at the same time is not good enough to sound that huge, get it? I mean, if you want to play that big you need a trully great tune like Viva La Vida, Bohemian Rhapsody or even USOE and Survival is just not that good. I do hope that's not how The 2nd Law will sound like.

[nouratan]

i kind of am in love with the new song, it reminds me of listening to B&R for the first time and hating everything about it but some of my favourite songs are from that album:shrug:

i hate the prelude though and unlike everyone else i hear more Abba than queen in the song

[Corkus]

The USoE comparisons are what give me a shred of hope, because after USoE was first released after that scavenger hunt, I HATED it. And yet it was 50,000x better live, and most certainly the most improved track from The Resistance in a live setting. (unlike Guiding Light, which still sucked :laugh3:)

[Cheese Nip 2]

I always liked Guiding Light. Kind of reminded me of "Save Me" by Queen for some reason :shrug:

[Mark]

The USoE comparisons are what give me a shred of hope, because after USoE was first released after that scavenger hunt, I HATED it. And yet it was 50,000x better live, and most certainly the most improved track from The Resistance in a live setting. (unlike Guiding Light, which still sucked :laugh3:)

Guiding Light sucked, yeah.

I just can't get over how much Eurasia ripped off it's own coda. And yet that was the most beautiful part.

[Violet]

Excuse you. The music they used for the coda is part of public domain. They can use it if they want. At any rate, they only used a portion of the piece, and they added a thing or two to it. It's not a complete ripoff. That's like saying hip-hop artists who use samples are ripping off the people who originally wrote their samples. It's ridiculous.

[Nattatouille]

Really?

Piano style = I Belong To You
The idea of "+ Prelude" resonates with the "+" Codas/interludes, Collateral Damage and Mon Coeur S'Ouvre A Ton Voix
The chord progression begins in the same way as Eurasia
The delivery of the vocal is quite Uprising - aggressivish, low, like fighting talk, almost


That's just me, but I thought it was very Resistance... but at the same time... approached differently to different to anything before.

Bit of a lot in there though; Absolution strings, Origin build, Black Holes solo, Showbiz... Nah they'll never do anything like that again.

I agree with pretty much all this comment. It could of come straight out of The Resistance era. Except it's slightly more flamboyant. Like they looked at The Resistance and went-- we can expand the horizon for flamboyance. Let's go one more step.

[Hysteria]

Short interview

Muse talk about their London 2012 inspired song 'Survival' - YouTube

[Violet]

The same chord progression? LOLno.

[Mark]

Excuse you. The music they used for the coda is part of public domain. They can use it if they want. At any rate, they only used a portion of the piece, and they added a thing or two to it. It's not a complete ripoff. That's like saying hip-hop artists who use samples are ripping off the people who originally wrote their samples. It's ridiculous.

They took progressions straight out of a piece that they ended up using anyway, and the song they built wasn't as good as the one they borrowed from (pardon the "rip-off").

Rappers take small segments, loops, and as you say, samples. Eurasia is, to put it crudely, a 21st Century rock version of a Chopin piece; whereas any good rap song that samples is not an update on its sample.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a clever piece of work, I just think it's not quite as ingenious as say, Butterflies and Hurricanes, as a concept, as a song, as a piece of music.

[Violet]

WTF? No it's not. The only Chopin bit in there is "Collateral Damage," which of course makes sense because "Collateral Damage" is just a Chopin nocturne with a backing string arrangement and some background noise. USoE being in the same key as CD doesn't make it an extended version of the Chopin nocturne. Also, you need to learn the definition of chord progression; this is the second time now that you've used it incorrectly.

[Hopey]

I think this may be their worst song (counting singles only). Didn't they had enough wannabe Queen moments already? This sounds like trash from Resistance and bad copy of Queen. Such a disappointment.

[Mark]

WTF? No it's not. The only Chopin bit in there is "Collateral Damage," which of course makes sense because "Collateral Damage" is just a Chopin nocturne with a backing string arrangement and some background noise. USoE being in the same key as CD doesn't make it an extended version of the Chopin nocturne. Also, you need to learn the definition of chord progression; this is the second time now that you've used it incorrectly.

The second time, I didn't say chord progression. I simply said progression. The progression of the Muse song aligns, in places, with the progression of the Chopin song.

I also didn't say that it was an extended version. I said it was an update. It follows the patterns of the Chopin piece. It utilises the same build techniques of the piece.

I don't want to get all high and mighty and bring out the "I'm a musician" card, because I can't read a note of music. I play keyboard however, I have the score for Eurasia + CD and I only ever play CD because I find it a better version. They're very similar.

If you don't hear it, that's cool, I'm not forcing you into my opinion. They sound similar to me, that's all. I'm not gonna get all aggressive on your ass.

(As for Survival. It starts with the first two chords of Bb and Ebm. Eurasia starts with Eb and G#m. This is the same pattern, unless I'm very much mistaken.)

[Mark]

I agree with pretty much all this comment. It could of come straight out of The Resistance era. Except it's slightly more flamboyant. Like they looked at The Resistance and went-- we can expand the horizon for flamboyance. Let's go one more step.

I feel The 2nd Law could be the Mylo Xyloto to The Resistance's Viva La Vida.

[James.]

I feel The 2nd Law could be the Mylo Xyloto to The Resistance's Viva La Vida.

That's weird because I sort of see The Resistance as the MX to BHAR'S Viva la Vida. Not exactly musically, but in the way they were received by the fans.

[Corkus]

If the 2nd Law is Muse's MX, that would mean I'll be disowning them, declaring them dead, and being ashamed of all the money I've spent on them over the years. (except more so because I've probably only spent a few hundred on Coldplay while I've spent a couple thousand on Muse tickets and travel expenses :P)

[Violet]

(As for Survival. It starts with the first two chords of Bb and Ebm. Eurasia starts with Eb and G#m. This is the same pattern, unless I'm very much mistaken.)

Actually, the E-flat minor doesn't kick in until after the song starts on B-flat, goes into E-flat major, and goes back between those two keys again. Also, after USoE starts on E-flat, it goes into an Fm7, then E-flat, then A-flat minor (which makes more sense than saying it's in G-sharp because E-flat doesn't have any sharps in its key. Yeah, they're enharmonic, but I'm choosing to be pedantic right now.). At any rate, even if you WERE right, it takes more than two chords to make a chord progression. (You can make a cadence with two chords, yes, but not a progression.)

Oh, and about that other stuff. Just because you have the same chord progression going on in two songs (OMG, because that NEVER happens. /sarcasm), that doesn't mean one's trying to imitate the other. Yeah, there's the same foundation, but it's not the same song. Matt's vocal melody isn't in Chopin's work, y'know. Neither are the string bits or anything else they added to it. They might have used the chord progression, but they didn't use the melody, so it can't be called an "update," or whatever the hell it is you're calling it.

[Nattatouille]

I feel The 2nd Law could be the Mylo Xyloto to The Resistance's Viva La Vida.

On teh moneyz.

That's weird because I sort of see The Resistance as the MX to BHAR'S Viva la Vida. Not exactly musically, but in the way they were received by the fans.

That's because Muse fans (in particular the .mu boards) are a bunch of hyper cynical, moany, doubters. So unlike Coldplayers, they are more vocal about what they dislike. Hence their distaste so early on. :dozey:

If the 2nd Law is Muse's MX, that would mean I'll be disowning them, declaring them dead, and being ashamed of all the money I've spent on them over the years. (except more so because I've probably only spent a few hundred on Coldplay while I've spent a couple thousand on Muse tickets and travel expenses :P)

HIPSTER. :escaping:

But seriously, no Wemblayyyy then? :cry:

[Mark]

Actually, the E-flat minor doesn't kick in until after the song starts on B-flat, goes into E-flat major, and goes back between those two keys again. Also, after USoE starts on E-flat, it goes into an Fm7, then E-flat, then A-flat minor (which makes more sense than saying it's in G-sharp because E-flat doesn't have any sharps in its key. Yeah, they're enharmonic, but I'm choosing to be pedantic right now.). At any rate, even if you WERE right, it takes more than two chords to make a chord progression. (You can make a cadence with two chords, yes, but not a progression.)

I am right...

The chord progression begins in the same way as Eurasia

The verses begin the same. Sorry, I should've been more clear, I thought it was blatantly obvious to anyone that the Eurasia intro sounded nothing like the Survival intro.

Oh, and about that other stuff. Just because you have the same chord progression going on in two songs (OMG, because that NEVER happens. /sarcasm), that doesn't mean one's trying to imitate the other. Yeah, there's the same foundation, but it's not the same song. Matt's vocal melody isn't in Chopin's work, y'know. Neither are the string bits or anything else they added to it. They might have used the chord progression, but they didn't use the melody, so it can't be called an "update," or whatever the hell it is you're calling it.

I think I've said all along it's the same foundation, I've just not put that across very well. I think I've said it in a negative light though, and you've stuck up for the song. I expect better of them to do that. Disagree by all means, but please talk to me with a bit more respect and not the sharp anger I've detected in your tone.

(OMG, because that NEVER happens. /sarcasm)
even if you WERE right
whatever the hell it is you're calling it
WTF?
LOLno
Excuse you
I'll excuse myself, thank you very much.

[Coeurli]

Totally random and I'm not a Muse fan (well I like them, but I only know the hit singles and I've never been interested enough to look up more of their songs, anyway.. ) but yesterday I listened to Unintended for the first time in years and I think it's one of the most beautiful songs ever. :wacko:

Anyway, go on :nice::escaping2:

[nouratan]

If the 2nd Law is Muse's MX, that would mean I'll be disowning them, declaring them dead, and being ashamed of all the money I've spent on them over the years. (except more so because I've probably only spent a few hundred on Coldplay while I've spent a couple thousand on Muse tickets and travel expenses :P)

nothing can be worse then MX

[James.]

Totally random and I'm not a Muse fan (well I like them, but I only know the hit singles and I've never been interested enough to look up more of their songs, anyway.. ) but yesterday I listened to Unintended for the first time in years and I think it's one of the most beautiful songs ever. :wacko:

Anyway, go on :nice::escaping2:

Listen to Origin of Symmetry! DO IT! :lol: :D

[Imke]

I still have no idea if I like Survival or not. It will be so so so weird to hear this all throughout the Olympics.

I can already picture the recaps with Matt's "YES I'M GONNA WIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!" in the background. :freak:

[Corkus]

But seriously, no Wemblayyyy then? :cry:
Wembley isn't gonna happen for me. Period. I could very well go to a dozen North American shows, but flying overseas for Muse just isn't gonna be practical for me yet again. Not to mention a dozen shows here wouldn't cost any more than flying to 2 shows at Wembley.

[Nattatouille]

I still have no idea if I like Survival or not. It will be so so so weird to hear this all throughout the Olympics.

I can already picture the recaps with Matt's "YES I'M GONNA WIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!" in the background. :freak:

Yeah. It's going to be full of Union Jacks and I feel that is ironic considering Matt's so anti-establishment.

I'm going to get sick of it though.

Wembley isn't gonna happen for me. Period. I could very well go to a dozen North American shows, but flying overseas for Muse just isn't gonna be practical for me yet again. Not to mention a dozen shows here wouldn't cost any more than flying to 2 shows at Wembley.

Aw, that's a shame but I understand completely! I'll just have to tap you up when I come across there next summer (all going well) :dozey:

[suzanafg]

Totally random and I'm not a Muse fan (well I like them, but I only know the hit singles and I've never been interested enough to look up more of their songs, anyway.. ) but yesterday I listened to Unintended for the first time in years and I think it's one of the most beautiful songs ever. :wacko:

Anyway, go on :nice::escaping2:

Unintended is indeed a beautiful song.

If you want to listen to a full album, I'd suggest Absolution (their 3rd album). It's friendlier than the first two, imo, though it encompasses elements from these two first albums and the following two as well, both in a lyrical sense and a musical one. All in all, it's a good way to be introduced to Muse, I'd say.

If you'd like to listen to individual songs, here are some (I'll list very few songs because I fear a very long list may put one off):

Muse Hysteria, V-Festival 2008 - YouTube

Muse - Feeling Good [Live From Wembley Stadium] - YouTube

Muse - Hoodoo [Live From Wembley Stadium] - YouTube

The only criteria I used was: these are some of their songs that sound really good live (which is a constant in Muse domain). The last two videos are from HAARP, their live dvd (one of them, at least). A lot of the songs from that dvd are up on their youtube channel.

I hope it was useful somehow and that you enjoy listening to Muse :nice:

[suzanafg]

If the 2nd Law is Muse's MX, that would mean I'll be disowning them, declaring them dead, and being ashamed of all the money I've spent on them over the years. (except more so because I've probably only spent a few hundred on Coldplay while I've spent a couple thousand on Muse tickets and travel expenses :P)

I don't know if you joking or not, but, honestly, however disappointed you're with a band because of their newest material, it isn't reason enough to erase everything else that the band has meant to you.

[Corkus]

Not joking, I did it with Coldplay. I doubt it'll happen with Muse, though, just because even if Muse goes in a negative direction with this album, they won't stoop to the crowd-pleasing lows that Coldplay did for the sake of popularity with VLV and especially MX. Changing to be "like Queen" is a whole different beast than changing to be "like whoever has the #1 hit at the moment regardless of genre". I mean, I don't really like much of what U2's put out since the mid-90's, but I still love them anyway. They changed, but not for popularity reasons.

[suzanafg]

I disagree about MX (and VLV) being what they are just for the sake of fame or popularity, but I won't linger on the subject.

What I meant is that you probably had very good reason to like Coldplay (or some other band) in the first place and that their recent moves, if you dislike them, wouldn't rub away this reason.

[Nattatouille]

I don't know if you joking or not, but, honestly, however disappointed you're with a band because of their newest material, it isn't reason enough to erase everything else that the band has meant to you.

I do agree with you on this point.

But I do also see Michael's point. Coldplay has meant significantly less to me since MX-- to the point where I dismiss them a lot of the time. They disappointed me and what they did in the past is somewhat diminished because you know where they will go in the future.

[suzanafg]

I do agree with you on this point.

But I do also see Michael's point. Coldplay has meant significantly less to me since MX-- to the point where I dismiss them a lot of the time. They disappointed me and what they did in the past is somewhat diminished because you know where they will go in the future.

That sounds very reasonable and understandable. I just wouldn't agree that everything else Coldplay did should be completely ignored because of MX (which isn't your point, of course).

[Black Rose]

Muse are the 2nd best Queen tribute band...

...The 1st is Queen post Freddie.

[Mark]

Muse are the 2nd best Queen tribute band...

...The 1st is Queen post Freddie.

I hope you mean that Muse are second best at impersonating Queen and not the worse band of the two. :P

[Imke]

I just saw this for the first time: Matthew Bellamy, amazing laugh while playing Plug In Baby - YouTube :lol:

Does anyone know what happened there?

[Hysteria]

Think it was a crowd surfer who got dropped. :lol:

[Imke]

^ I thought so ... judging by Matt's laugh he must've fallen pretty badly though. :lol:

With a song like this, the Olympics are bound to be full of drama. :freak:

Muse - Survival (BBC Official Video - Longer Version) - YouTube

I especially like the part where Michael Phelps (I think?) screams like mad and they put Matt's WIIIIIIIIIN over it. xD

[Nattatouille]

^ I thought so ... judging by Matt's laugh he must've fallen pretty badly though. :lol:

With a song like this, the Olympics are bound to be full of drama. :freak:

Muse - Survival (BBC Official Video - Longer Version) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBu14q1dNP0)

I especially like the part where Michael Phelps (I think?) screams like mad and they put Matt's WIIIIIIIIIN over it. xD

It is Michael Phelps you're right. It's well done; as I said when I first saw it-- I bet there is a video editor somewhere out there with his feet up on the desk and being like 'yeah, I did an awesome job' just for that clip :wink3:


I believe wasn't it a crowd surfer in a rubber dingy?

[Megalomania]

I do agree with you on this point.

But I do also see Michael's point. Coldplay has meant significantly less to me since MX-- to the point where I dismiss them a lot of the time. They disappointed me and what they did in the past is somewhat diminished because you know where they will go in the future.

I agree with this

I love the video for the song, it fits perfectly.

And also, the song has definitely been growing on me. I still wouldn't consider it one of their top twenty songs, but it's far from the bottom where it started out.

[Blue Nails]

Survival is on the radio a lot... Don't like it very much. But the video is cool.
I am curious what it will sound like live though.

[Megalomania]

I haven't heard it on the radio yet, simply because I don't listen to the radio. :awesome:

I feel like it's going to be pretty good live without the backing vocals but idk

[James.]

Possible The 2nd Law tracklist leaked:
http://www.cantilux.net/files7/2058134720.jpg

I can sort of make out:
Madness (with SINGLE written next to it)
Panic Station
Prelude
Survival
Follow Me
??? (the rest is covered up by interviewer's finger and difficult to read :lol:)
???
???
Supremacy?
???

[Prospector]

^ Survival on the album, please no :no:

[Mark]

Possible The 2nd Law tracklist leaked:
http://www.cantilux.net/files7/2058134720.jpg

I can sort of make out:
Madness (with SINGLE written next to it)
Panic Station
Prelude
Survival
Follow Me
??? (the rest is covered up by interviewer's finger and difficult to read :lol:)
???
???
Supremacy?
???

Pretty sure that's an "EX" to the right of her finger... Explorers?

[Hysteria]

I can't read any of it. I just like that Matt is holding the mic for Dom. :lol:

[Imke]

Madness and Panic Station, what a nice way to start an album. :P

[James.]

Pretty sure that's an "EX" to the right of her finger... Explorers?

Could be... now you mention it I can see an EX too... it's probably Explorers then :nod:

[Corkus]

Whenever I think of the word "madness", I think of the band Madness. :laugh3:

I called "Follow Me" being this album's obligatory cheesy ballad everyone hates in the style of GL and Invincible back when those track names were first leaked like 4 months ago, and I'm sticking with that prediction, especially given its similar placement if this track order holds true.

(on a side note, my gf was drunk in my car a few nights ago and started singing "Bliss" out the window at almost midnight and it was pretty much the funniest thing ever)

[The Final Track]

It could just as well be any word with ex (as in former) in front of it.

[Mark]

Whenever I think of the word "madness", I think of the band Madness. :laugh3:

I called "Follow Me" being this album's obligatory cheesy ballad everyone hates in the style of GL and Invincible back when those track names were first leaked like 4 months ago, and I'm sticking with that prediction, especially given its similar placement if this track order holds true.

(on a side note, my gf was drunk in my car a few nights ago and started singing "Bliss" out the window at almost midnight and it was pretty much the funniest thing ever)

Going by that logic, Survival is the United States of Eurasia of this album. More than plausible.

[James.]

Going by that logic, Survival is the United States of Eurasia of this album. More than plausible.

So that means:

Uprising -> Madness
Resistance -> Panic Station
Undisclosed Desires -> I guess Prelude? :shrug:
United States of Eurasia -> Survival
Guiding Light -> Follow Me
Unnatural Selection -> ???
MK Ultra -> Explorers?
The rest is unclear...

[Mark]

So that means:

Uprising -> Madness
Resistance -> Panic Station
Undisclosed Desires -> I guess Prelude? :shrug:
United States of Eurasia -> Survival
Guiding Light -> Follow Me
Unnatural Selection -> ???
MK Ultra -> Explorers?
The rest is unclear...

Unless of course Prelude is part of the same track as Survival.

If they had half a brain cell between them they'd do something a little bit different to The Resistance, considering it's their least popular effort since Showbiz.

[Corkus]

Pretty sure Prelude is separate just because Survival is currently only available to purchase without it. Just think of it like Interlude on Abso.

That and I don't want to see the equivalent to Undisclosed Desires since that song deserves to be forgotten in the deepest abyss. :P

[Mark]

Pretty sure Prelude is separate just because Survival is currently only available to purchase without it. Just think of it like Interlude on Abso.

That and I don't want to see the equivalent to Undisclosed Desires since that song deserves to be forgotten in the deepest abyss. :P

Live it was worse. Dear me.

[Corkus]

Undisclosed Desires live was like Broadway intermission. Time to nap or pee, or if you're trapped on the barrier, time to take pretty photos for 4 minutes.

Sadly, it's probably popular enough to bring back next tour. Eww.

[Mark]

Undisclosed Desires live was like Broadway intermission. Time to nap or pee, or if you're trapped on the barrier, time to take pretty photos for 4 minutes.

Sadly, it's probably popular enough to bring back next tour. Eww.

I felt that way about Eurasia. And Guiding Light was appalling on record, and live. Unnatural Selection should've been replaced with New Born at Wembley. Resistance is U2-lite shite.

And I didn't actually mind The Resistance all that much, believe it or not.

[James.]

I guess they realised how many people hated UD, so instead of making an equivalent song on T2L they decided to fill its spot with an instrumental :laugh3:
Seriously though, I really hope the album isn't just The Resistance 2.0

[Mark]

I guess they realised how many people hated UD, so instead of making an equivalent song on T2L they decided to fill its spot with an instrumental :laugh3:
Seriously though, I really hope the album isn't just The Resistance 2.0

Same, considering The Resistance was Muse's backcatalogue 2.0.

[Corkus]

I felt that way about Eurasia. And Guiding Light was appalling on record, and live. Unnatural Selection should've been replaced with New Born at Wembley. Resistance is U2-lite shite.

And I didn't actually mind The Resistance all that much, believe it or not.
Hated Eurasia on record, thought it was much better live.
Guiding Light live made me consider shooting myself. Sadly, guns weren't allowed in any of the venues.
I actually loved Unnatural Selection.
Resistance was...middling. Transitioning it into Starlight was stupid as hell, though, since they're basically the same song.

[Mark]

Hated Eurasia on record, thought it was much better live.
Guiding Light live made me consider shooting myself. Sadly, guns weren't allowed in any of the venues.
I actually loved Unnatural Selection.
Resistance was...middling. Transitioning it into Starlight was stupid as hell, though, since they're basically the same song.

Resistance is just so MOR it might as well be a Snow Patrol song. Ooh, 1984-themed lyrics, so original.
Unnatural Selection just sounds like a poor New Born.

The final four songs on that album are my favourite final four songs since OK Computer. Uprising is good. The rest is take or leave.

EDIT: And actually, MK Ultra's good.

[Megalomania]

Leaving this here for Kelly because it made me laugh :lol:

http://oi45.tinypic.com/2rpw7wp.jpg

[Hysteria]

:lol: Oh dear. It actually hurts how bad that song is. :P

[Violet]

At least that song's just a cover.

Speaking of covers, my dad hates it when I play "Popcorn." He was in his teens when the original song came out, and he told me not too long ago that he still finds it incredibly annoying. :disappointed:

[Mark]

I think Prague's my least favourite Muse song...

Along with Neutron Star Collision, Guiding Light, Dark Shines and Time Is Running Out.

What's everyone else's?

[Corkus]

Darkshines and TIRO? Damn, even if you don't like those songs, they certainly don't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as those other 3 trainwrecks. :laugh3:

Prague, Guiding Light, Neutron Star Collision, Invincible, Overdue, Sober, Pink Ego Box, Undisclosed Desires

Those are the Muse tracks I flat-out hate. I was tempted to include Survival in the list, but I held off because I want to hear how it sounds live first.

[Violet]

^ The chorus of "Overdue" pretty much kills it. "YOOOOOU KNOW THAT I CAAAAARE. YOOOOOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN THEEEEERE." Just shut up already, Matt. Jesus Christ. :facepalm:

[FixYougirl]

Guiding Light, Unatural Selection.

By the way, yesterday i met Matt in Paris. He had interviews.

[James.]

I pretty much don't hate any Muse songs except the obvious ones. Guiding Light, Undisclosed Desires, Neutron Star Collision, Feeling Good etc.
There are a few that I don't really feel the love for, like Unintended and Supermassive Black Hole, but I can comfortably listen to pretty much any song except those four above.

[Megalomania]

I actually like Feeling Good, I think it's a pretty respectable cover of the song. Yeah, it's cheesy, but they didn't write it.

The only songs I don't like are Guiding Light and NSC. Some days I can't listen to songs like Sober or Overdue too though

[Violet]

I can't remember the last time I listened to "Showbiz" all the way through.

[James.]

I can't remember the last time I listened to "Showbiz" all the way through.

The album or the song?

[Violet]

Right, sorry. I meant the album. I love the song.

[nouratan]

i don't really like showbiz (the album) :(

[Violet]

There's no shame in that. I think it's my least fave album, if I'm honest.

It's still better than the Newton-Abbot demo, though.

[nouratan]

showbiz i believe is to morbid and melancholic

[Hysteria]

I think Showbiz is a pretty good debut though.

[James.]

I think Showbiz is a pretty good debut though.

I agree. Some of the songs on it are very good considering it's their first album, but it is let down by some of the more 'emo' songs, for want of a better word. (Falling Down, Overdue, I'm looking at you.)

[Violet]

That's precisely the reason why I'm so lax with it. It's their first one, and they were 18-19 when it was released. Matt himself said they had no idea what they were doing when they recorded it. Despite all that, it's still a solid album. Some of the songs on that album will be forever dear to me. ("Escape" comes to mind. :heart:)

[Mark]

Darkshines and TIRO? Damn, even if you don't like those songs, they certainly don't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as those other 3 trainwrecks. :laugh3:

Prague, Guiding Light, Neutron Star Collision, Invincible, Overdue, Sober, Pink Ego Box, Undisclosed Desires

Those are the Muse tracks I flat-out hate. I was tempted to include Survival in the list, but I held off because I want to hear how it sounds live first.

It's not that they're bad, it's that they're lazy more than anything else.

I think the solo saves Invincible, and I actually like Undisclosed Desires, but if I have to sit through it live in its current form again, I'll kill myself.

I agree. Some of the songs on it are very good considering it's their first album, but it is let down by some of the more 'emo' songs, for want of a better word. (Falling Down, Overdue, I'm looking at you.)

It's an alright album, it's just not found the strengths of the band yet, and certainly not found the bombast.

Ironically to that though, I think the highlights are Falling Down and Unintended.

[Violet]

"Unintended" will forever be one of my favorites. :heart: I also quite like "Falling Down," oddly enough. It's more songs like "Overdue" and "Fillip" that kinda get on my nerves a little bit. (Although, admittedly, I like the last bit of "Fillip.")

[Corkus]

As much as I like Showbiz, it tries way hard to be OK Computer. Muse hasn't had much Radiohead in them since, but that first effort's haunted them critic-wise.

Showbiz the song, though, is a top 5 for me.

[James.]

"Unintended" will forever be one of my favorites. :heart: I also quite like "Falling Down," oddly enough. It's more songs like "Overdue" and "Fillip" that kinda get on my nerves a little bit. (Although, admittedly, I like the last bit of "Fillip.")

Oh yeah, Fillip is a weird one as well :confused:

For some reason I'm not that keen on songs like Unintended, Falling Down, Soldier's Poem etc. I'm not saying I don't like those songs exactly, I just prefer to hear Muse's more rocky stuff. Even songs like Starlight and Time Is Running Out I would rather listen to.

[Violet]

I remember when I first saw the music video for TIRO (back when I had never even heard of Muse, and I didn't become a fan until a while after that). I thought Matt sounded and looked weird, and that was literally the only thing I could concentrate on at the time. :lol:

[busybeeburns]

Parts I & II remerged

1750 pages here now

[Nattatouille]

^Why?

I am so confused :cry2: