We will be a little short of puns for the next week

[Gitta Rensolo]

Yeah, but that's EXACTLY my point. You behave in a way you don't want him to behave. But anyway...I've said enough. It was just my opinion, nothing more.

yes I know....after all it just might be a big circle.

[Hogy]

yes I know....after all it just might be a big circle.

Yeah, it looks like it.

[Heiner]

One more day.

[Reilly]

a few days ago i read someone (don't care who) was trying to insult mark by saying he was gay. and not a single person reacted to sth like that?. guys, it's 2009. how can people still walk around and call people "gay" in order to express that they don't like them and nobody doesn't even give a shit?

So, this thread should be deleted because one person (don't care who) called him gay?

I probably didn't react because yes it is 2009, and a remark like that is so insignificant it shouldn't even be acknowledged.

But here we are.

On the boards demise, there were some really harsh threads long before you joined, and there have been since.

[Tonsu]

Although he hasnt done it in a while (because I havent been posting in a while) he would often make snidey critical remarks towards me, a lot of the time when I hadnt even posted in the thread.

And if I wasnt online it was 10 times worse, if he had one of his newbie minions to bounce off of, I could log on to a random thread which he somehow would turn into pages and pages of slagging me off, and its only a matter of time before he starts doing it again. I can look for one of these threads if you wish.

This.

I didn't even know who Reilly was until I started reading offensive comments from Mark about him across all sorts of random threads (when as far as I know Reilly hadn't even posted for months or even years, having not seen his posts).

He does (has done, we shall see?) the same to me for a long while. Even when Ian stepped in and asked us to put each other on ignore (and basically told us to SHUT UP about each other) because of the arguments I did, but people PMed me telling me he was still being rude about me across the forum. So I had to take him off ignore to defend myself.

The guy is the very definition of an internet troll. He revels in it. In fact, in my humble opinion, the attention he gets here from his unpleasant behaviour is the highlight of his life. I detest him but at the same time pity him.

[Glossal Fragster]

This.

I didn't even know who Reilly was until I started reading offensive comments from Mark about him across all sorts of random threads (when as far as I know Reilly hadn't even posted for months or even years, having not seen his posts).

He does (has done, we shall see?) the same to me for a long while. Even when Ian stepped in and asked us to put each other on ignore (and basically told us to SHUT UP about each other) because of the arguments I did, but people PMed me telling me he was still being rude about me across the forum. So I had to take him off ignore to defend myself.



Same thing happened to me. Almost word for word.

[Reilly]

Exactly. I heard he was saying things about me over the past few years when Id only log on every 3 or 4 months and very briefly scan the lounge, so I had no idea he was doing it.

[Tonsu]

Exactly. I heard he was saying things about me over the past few years when Id only log on every 3 or 4 months and very briefly scan the lounge, so I had no idea he was doing it.

As far as I recall people mentioned they missed your posts on a thread and he then went on a near-maniacal spree of slagging you off in just about every post I read from him for a good few months (his random one-line 'puns' - can we really call them that, doesn't it give the word 'pun' a bad name? - aside).

[*Sarah*]

So, this thread should be deleted because one person (don't care who) called him gay?

I probably didn't react because yes it is 2009, and a remark like that is so insignificant it shouldn't even be acknowledged.

But here we are.

On the boards demise, there were some really harsh threads long before you joined, and there have been since.

i believe we can have different opinions on this and i respect what you're saying.
it's just that - from my point of you - it's better to take notice than to ignore, no matter what year we're in.
and no, of course it's not just this what caused me to say the whole thread should be deleted - it's the fact that the arguement is going in circles and will never ever stop until people learn that there's an ignore feature.

for people like me, who don't wanna get involved, it's sort of sad that we nowadays have to ignore the whole lounge.

you understand what i'm trying to say? it goes for many threads i come across.

but then again - and most important of all - it's just a messageboard. so as soon as i don't like sth, or someone, i can switch off the computer and get on with life. maybe that's the only solution for this.

it's just my opinion and there's no offence intended.

[Glossal Fragster]

Reilly, that's how I 1st knew of you. Mark's little slagging off rants. They weren't so much rants, as multiple puns, but with hatred behind every character.

[Reilly]

First off, Im not taking offence because youre having an opinion, and its not even a wrong opinion, it just seems a bit exaggerated like Hogy's earlier opinion.

for people like me, who don't wanna get involved, it's sort of sad that whe nowadays have to ignore the whole lounge.

The whole Lounge? Its one thread, the only one on the 1st page of its kind, you know whats inside it, if you are that sensitive towards it then I suggest not clicking on it.

I ignore plenty of threads that are always on the 1st page because I have no interest in them.

I just feel the same way as when I reacted to Hogy, its not as if we're constantly abusing him, swearing, insulting him mindlessly. Most of the points mentioned in this thread have been constructive, and as you say it is indeed better to take notice then ignore, and we're acknowledging what a pain in the ass Mark can be and for what reasons.

Again, there has always been spots of arguments and abuse, and in my opinion, when I first registered here it was actually a lot more intense and frequent (Often because I started it but hey, others got involved). I don't think things have changed and I do enjoy a mix of things on this forum, arguments are inevitable and I don't mind them.

[Reilly]

Reilly, that's how I 1st knew of you. Mark's little slagging off rants. They weren't so much rants, as multiple puns, but with hatred behind every character.

Yep. Me and Julia talked about that earlier in this thread. Mark would often influence newbies to his way of thinking, and even PM them when they were online to help him in arguments with me.

It hasnt happened so much lately (Co-inciding with how the board seems to have turned on Mark) but it wasn't rare that I'd get an odd or dispondant response when meeting a newbie, then Id figure out they were behind Mark and their opinion of me had already been made for them.

[Glossal Fragster]

Yep. Me and Julia talked about that earlier in this thread. Mark would often influence newbies to his way of thinking, and even PM them when they were online to help him in arguments with me.

It hasnt happened so much lately (Co-inciding with how the board seems to have turned on Mark) but it wasn't rare that I'd get an odd or dispondant response when meeting a newbie, then Id figure out they were behind Mark and their opinion of me had already been made for them.

Yeah. I think I was already in the "Doom Crew" when I first heard of the myth that was, Reilly. So, he didn't really influence me at all at that point. But hey, you're not a myth, you're an actual man, that may like a bit of a cuddle.

[Mojo Pin]

I think reilly is the person who mark hated the most on this board (even more than nathan). I know most people didn't get to see that because all this happened before you joined this board but i saw it all. I even bumped reilly's thread a bunch of times and mark would post there just to mock reilly( even though good old reillo wasn't even around) and say that we all should get over it because he (reilly) would never come back.

I still remember the days when i used to argue with mark and James was friends with him and he wouldn't understand why i disliked mark but a few months later he understood my reasons because something similar happened to him. It's not like some people are bullying for nothing and i haven't seen real insults here just people having a kick with his predictable replies.

I know some of you said that how can someone dislike him if you've never met him? Well, i know several people met him in real life and they didn't like his rl personality or something so they ignored him and they have the right to ignore him if they want.

He pretty much threw a party when nathan was banned and kept calling him "victor" so i don't know how he was the bigger man here. And for the record, i told him every single thing i'm saying here when he was able to post so it's not like i'm talking behind his back because i know he'll get to read this. I also told him i'm tired of fighting and arguing but i'd debate him any day and i'd speak my mind with no insults and i'm keeping my word.

[*Sarah*]

I just feel the same way as when I reacted to Hogy, its not as if we're constantly abusing him, swearing, insulting him mindlessly. Most of the points mentioned in this thread have been constructive, and as you say it is indeed better to take notice then ignore, and we're acknowledging what a pain in the ass Mark can be and for what reasons.

i understand why people feel the need to act this way - i study psychology and all this behavior is based on many boring theories i have to deal with in my life ;)
nah, i wouldn't say i'm sensitive. i'm interested in what's going on because of what i wanna do with my life - that's why i started to follow the argument every now and then, whenever i feel bored.

but what i'm trying to say is that this has become less interesting and more annoying by now, because it's going in circles. everything that's been said - from both sides - has been said like a 100 times before and i don't really understand why people don't get bored and still feel the need to say it again and again. if sth like this would happen in a relationship, by now the couple would have split up because it's so annoying and pointless ;) lame example, i know, but again, it's just my opinion.

so if the intention of the people involved is to argue just for the fun of it, the way they're dealing with it is the total right thing to do. if they want to sort things out, it's not gonna happen because both sides are not very... let's say clever.

i hope you didn't fall asleep while reading this ;)

[Tonsu]

I still remember the days when i used to argue with mark and James was friends with him and he wouldn't understand why i disliked mark but a few months later he understood my reasons because something similar happened to him.

Mark will always be someone's best buddy until they fail to support him when he wants them to - I've heard that countless times from people in real life.


And for the record, i told him every single thing i'm saying here when he was able to post so it's not like i'm talking behind his back because i know he'll get to read this. I also told him i'm tired of fighting and arguing but i'd debate him any day and i'd speak my mind with no insults and i'm keeping my word.

Yep, that's my attitude - tell him face to face, like a man. Not insult people across numerous threads that they'll probably never read. If I have a problem with Mark I tell him on that thread - he prefers to spread lies and stupid puns about them all over the forum (even when they don't even post for a long time like Reilly). Pathetic.

Anyway, I've said my piece, more or less. Let's see what happens when he comes back, if he has such a lack of shame to do so.

And I do wish people would read the whole thread before they say that any of this is bullying - it's the simple truth, posted by many, many users, and all easily backed up by previous posts on this board.

[Reilly]

Good post Ren, straight to the point. From searching for an example Ive just found a thread Id never seen before, made when I must not have been posting for a while, and Marks responses are just ridiculous: http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51082

The first few pages are the only ones worth seeing, but I scanned the whole thing, its weird how hes so intent on making his voice heard at the start and middle and then sortof drifts away and gives up because not many were agreeing.

so if the intention of the people involved is to argue just for the fun of it, the way they're dealing with it is the total right thing to do.

Yeah thats exactly what we're doing. Im not the only person to try and reason with him, it doesn't work. I'm not posting in here to sort things out (Unless it results in a permanent ban which would be great) but more to satirise.

[*Sarah*]

Yeah thats exactly what we're doing. Im not the only person to try and reason with him, it doesn't work. I'm not posting in here to sort things out (Unless it results in a permanent ban which would be great) but more to satirise.

you see, and that's why i'm saying it's pointless. that's what i told mark, that's what i'm telling you and that's all i really have to say to this. it's simply a waste of time, but then again, everyone can decide for him/herself what to do with 24 hours each day.

anyway... i said much more than i actually wanted to and it's really late, i'm off.
goodnight!



:lock: :P

[Reilly]

Further research via Fraggs:

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56292&page=9

That page and the one after it just show how terribly full of shit he is, avoiding any useful sign of debate with irrelevant crap. This is the worst part:

[/quote=luckycharms]2. wht the freak does james being a russell brand fan and putting salt in his food have ANYTHING to do with what he said. You cant roll ur eyes and make a pun out of anything.
[/quote=mc_squared]Why not? There's nothing to say you can't. :dozey: [/quote][/quote]

Hahaha, thats him defending his entire character on this forum. Why not.

Well thats the last link I'll post, but I encourage others to share!

you see, and that's why i'm saying it's pointless.

You did say that if we're arguing for the fun of it, then we're going about it the right way. Surely theres a point there then? I do find it fun, parts of it are funny.

Besides if your problem with this thread is ultimately that its a waste of time (Which has changed from the your original problem) then go the Lounge Games sub forum where they are currently playing games that include, counting! And, writing the name of the previous poster! You'd have a field day in there.

Goodnight!

[*Sarah*]

like i said - we seem to have different opinions on this and that's fine with me.
bye... need. sleep. ;)

[MrLick]

it just so happened that i read through this thread a couple of times during the last week but so far i didn't feel like posting, because... well, this board doesn't mean half as much to me as it used to in the old days. it changed a lot. so i didn't bother (and am still not bothering) to take sides in an arguement which is so very pointless. there will never be a solution that pleases everyone on here. never.

but now that i come here again i feel like saying that hogy is the first person in this thread who's actually talking sense. finally. so i'd like to say that i agree with her.

a few days ago i read someone (don't care who) was trying to insult mark by saying he was gay. and not a single person reacted to sth like that?. guys, it's 2009. how can people still walk around and call people "gay" in order to express that they don't like them and nobody doesn't even give a shit?

it's sad.

the whole thread should have been deleted a long time ago because it's so embarrasing.

Fuck off.

[an angel]

Lounge games are far from being a waste of time... they can be pretty enlightening. :awesome:


Okay, okay, not really. :shame:

[Space Cadet]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

[crazyduckette]

This is where people jumping into the middle of a debate they know nothing about, goes very wrong and gets annoying.

Yup.

[Reilly]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

:surprised:

http://www.lastyellow.com/2007_pages/brooks_07/july_07_pics/south-park-chef-magnet-4000076-780227[1].jpg
"Im not touching that with a 60 foot pole!"












But you are brave to say it

[Space Cadet]

you see, and that's why i'm saying it's pointless. that's what i told mark, that's what i'm telling you and that's all i really have to say to this.

I have told Mark a hundred times. He's drawn to arguments like a moth to flame. Actually, I can't think of any that he hasn't ended up at the centre of. One can only conclude that contrary to what he says he likes arguing.

When one type of troll meets another type of troll, they all have a big messy troll dance. :dance:

[noonsun]

*long-ass post I probably shouldn't quote again coz it is so long-ass*

:clap:

[Space Cadet]

But you are brave to say itTo quote Oscar Wilde's Cecily, "When I see a spade I call it a spade."

I can't help but notice in the last couple of days that the fastest growing segment of the population around here was born sometime between about '95 and '97. I think it's a wonderful thing that so many generations can interact here freely without all the usual judgment and schisms that come from age differences.

But I was also a leader in Brownies for a number of years. We weren't allowed to escort a girl anywhere near the washrooms without a group. Every single thing we did had to be clearly above board and transparent for a very good reason. It is the responsibility of the older person to make sure that everything is always appropriate.

Prying into younger members personal information, talking them into letting you have facebook access, and privately manipulating them behind the scenes like has been described here may be entirely innocent, but it is very inappropriate and it certainly isn't transparent.

[Reilly]

I will admit, I always found it a bit weird how much he seems to communicate with minors. I realise myself when chatting to a minor on here, how that would look to others if it was regular or PMs (Which is- weird, the same weird way in which he seems to take that sort of interest).

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt in that I do think its innocent, but looking at it in the way youve just described, fair point, it is serious.

Enough said.

[Reilly]

I will admit, I always found it a bit weird how much he seems to communicate with minors. I realise myself when chatting to a minor on here, how that would look to others if it was regular or PMs (Which is- weird, the same weird way in which he seems to take that sort of interest).

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt in that I do think its innocent, but looking at it in the way youve just described, fair point, it is serious.

Enough said.

[Lore]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

wow :clap:

as Reilly said, you are very brave to post this

[Julie]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

I officially love you.

[Mojo Pin]

Mo you are a brave soul and i salute you :kiss:

[Mojo Pin]

Yeah thats exactly what we're doing. Im not the only person to try and reason with him, it doesn't work. I'm not posting in here to sort things out (Unless it results in a permanent ban which would be great) but more to satirise.

I think you'll find this thread amusing :

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63780&highlight=biased&page=8

It's one of the few thread that didn't get locked or deleted because there were no real insults here.

And I tried the same thing because i really wanted to see if he really enjoys all the fights or this is just one elaborated online persona but being honest , i was even more confused about him after that fight :uhoh:

[Reilly]

Jesus! 41 pages?!

[Mojo Pin]

That's nothing, there were threads with 100 pages or even more but they all got deleted :disappointed:

[HorrificAttack]

But...I like feeding the troll :(

[LiquidSky]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

This is making me feel sad :\

[Reilly]

Ren I could only scan that topic for the longer posts (Which for Mark were only 1 or 2) and its insane just how insane he is. His mind is consumed by himself, even the way he quotes you in that debate, he'll literally take a part of a sentence (Not just paragraph) and use it to vaguely reverse an insult onto you which is completely irrelevant, and leave out the part of that sentence which actually mattered.

OK so the more I find out about Mark, the more it actually depresses me (Like Jo just posted, it made me sad reading that, Im glad it was said but its still sad) and Ive found out a lot through this thread and as suggested, checking the last few threads he posted in- which have been a real eye opener (Especially how he ignores Cooky Monsters very blunt and intelligent request to leave them alone, within 5 posts hes doing the exact same thing! Unbelievable)

But Horrific brings up a point, a lot of people like feeding the troll. After reading all this Im happy to ignore him (I mean that), it worked best in the Chavi and (Cant remember the other name) topic but how do we get everyone to?

Hes always going to seek out new people who dont recognise how fucked up this situation is, and either recruit them or niggle abuse and insults at them.

Theres just not a lot that can be done. All I know is the last hour of reading around Marks posts on the forum has convinced me that Cadet's advice of seeing a psychologist is more literal then I had first thought.

[HorrificAttack]

Yeah the stage you are going through now, I had a long time ago, I was genuinely baffled that he could be a normal member of society and shocked at the way he goes on, but at the time I realised that nobody else seemed to say anything or agree with what I was saying so I just gave up on that and resorted to laughing at how pathetic he is

he is beyond help in my opinion, can you actually imagine him sitting down with a psychiatrist and agreeing when they point out his issues "You're just biased!" he'd announce

[RICK8]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.



I'm rather shocked upon reading this,I had no idea he was behaving like that,I thought he overused his puns,but nothing to this extent!!

[*Perrine*]

I can already picture the beyond massive multiquote
Ouch.

[MrLick]

I can already picture the beyond massive multiquote
Ouch.

It's going to be epic.

[howyousawtheworld]

I think you'll find this thread amusing :

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63780&highlight=biased&page=8

It's one of the few thread that didn't get locked or deleted because there were no real insults here.

And I tried the same thing because i really wanted to see if he really enjoys all the fights or this is just one elaborated online persona but being honest , i was even more confused about him after that fight :uhoh:

That was an excellent article by Notion.

[Space Cadet]

It's going to be epic.Don't give in. Don't argue, and don't respond. This ends here. It has gone beyond jokes and fun.

I am not taking this any farther than I have so far for two reasons:

If he has been suspended, Ian must already be aware of a good portion of all this.

I want to give him a fair chance to respond and to change.

I don't like this sort of confrontation. I'm a live and let live sort. But the moment it occurs to me the way that young people here are inappropriately involved, I cannot stay silent. I have said what I said. (I'm assuming you all keep quoting me to make sure I can't go back on it. :thinking: :p)

But Horrific brings up a point, a lot of people like feeding the troll. After reading all this Im happy to ignore him (I mean that), it worked best in the Chavi and (Cant remember the other name) topic but how do we get everyone to?

Hes always going to seek out new people who dont recognise how fucked up this situation is, and either recruit them or niggle abuse and insults at them.Good. Don't respond.

If he starts making inappropriate contact with underage members here, I suggest warning them by linking back to my first big post and avoiding arguments of any sort. We all have a responsibility to protect them.

[Tonsu]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

Pretty well sums things up! Although, as such an obvious troll, I personally think he should be permanently banned, and imho the mods have a right also to free speech when attacked by him (which they often are).

I thought he was a teenager (especially when there was a thread where he was punning about sexual stuff with a group of teenagers) and was pretty unsettled when I found out how old he was.

[Reilly]

Yeah the stage you are going through now, I had a long time ago, I was genuinely baffled that he could be a normal member of society and shocked at the way he goes on, but at the time I realised that nobody else seemed to say anything or agree with what I was saying so I just gave up on that and resorted to laughing at how pathetic he is

he is beyond help in my opinion, can you actually imagine him sitting down with a psychiatrist and agreeing when they point out his issues "You're just biased!" he'd announce

Hahahaha!

Yeah when he first started posting here I had the same thing, I consistently bashed him and wondered why everyone else put up with it. But this whole thing reminds me a few years ago when I had a friend beside me and I was on Coldplaying, at the time I was in a feud with Mark, my friend asked me who this guy is and I said something like hes this 40 something year old guy who spends LOTS of hours on this board and posts like 200 a day. And my friend found it very weird and creepy.

By that time I wouldve known him a few years, and I suppose you get desensitised if you get used to him being around, you forget. It is weird and creepy to be middle aged and spend a lot of time trying to impress kids with puns and jokes, and often chatter which is going absolutely nowhere other then just being able to have a conversation with them (I notice he does that with newbs a lot).

I dont like to think people are beyond help, but if he actually does a gigantic multi-quote to 30+ pages of slanging, then yeah, way beyond.

But actually often he doesn't multi-quote in one post he stretches it out over many to get as much attention as possible.

[Zeya]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

I've been reading the whole thread but didn't have anything much to add, but for this post I have to say: SPOT ON.

[india rubber]

I think you'll find this thread amusing :

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63780&highlight=biased&page=8

It's one of the few thread that didn't get locked or deleted because there were no real insults here.

And I tried the same thing because i really wanted to see if he really enjoys all the fights or this is just one elaborated online persona but being honest , i was even more confused about him after that fight :uhoh:

Mark at his best!

[*Perrine*]

Is it tomorrow ? :uhoh:

[Lore]

yes :(

[*Perrine*]

If he stops acting this way (which I doubt), it doesn't bother me...

[Reilly]

Its like the opposite of Christmas.

[Lore]

If he stops acting this way (which I doubt), it doesn't bother me...

I don't think he suddenly will change, we'd need a christmas miracle :cheesy:

[Reilly]

If he stops acting this way (which I doubt), it doesn't bother me...

Exactly, he wont stop acting this way. He's just going to say we're all biased mobbers and anything we say, nomatter how truthful or logical, is irrelevant because we are biased mobbers.

[*Perrine*]

Then --> ignore :lol:

I don't think he suddenly will change, we'd need a christmas miracle :cheesy:
*starts praying Santa*

[Mojo Pin]

I told him lots of time that people wouldn't mind him and might even like him if he changed his attitude but it's unlikely to happen. Btw, i saw some pics of him in front of chris martin's house ( there's a thread about that) but during the day. Is it true that he was at night too? I'm just wondering :uhoh:

[*Perrine*]

:uhoh:

[Mojo Pin]

Found it :uhoh:

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62148

[Heiner]

Shitty, crazy fans.

[Reilly]

Christ he looks weird. Why couldn't he just post all those pictures in one post?

Shitty, crazy fans.

Hahahaha

[MrLick]

Christ he looks weird. Why couldn't he just post all those pictures in one post?

He needs attention, so he takes longer to do thing to maximize the amount of attention.

[Notion]

:(

[Gitta Rensolo]

all I can say after reading that serious long post by space Cadet....:

Strange enough that he started to pick on me in several threads right after Miguel became like "my best friend" on here....and strange enough that he had that super big fight with Miguel some weeks later, because Mark started picking on him as well with no real reason....

oh shit:uhoh:

[Glossal Fragster]

Okay. So, he's let out in to our world again, in about 30 minutes? Golly!

[Notion]

:( :( nooo

[Gitta Rensolo]

well he lives in Germany....and it's the 18th here since half an hour....I think it counts from the time Ian banned him...:thinking:

[an angel]

He'll probably wait a while to post... especially if he reads through this thread.

[Lore]

probably he already read it, he can't log in but still he can read The Lounge as a guest

[Notion]

:(

[MrLick]

We just gave Mark exactly what he wanted by having this thread.

[Glossal Fragster]

This thread was only created, because I liked the thought of garden peas being terrorists. (See 1st post)

[an angel]

Do you think he'll report this thread?

[MrLick]

He'll report every single post.(gonna be epic brah)

[an angel]

Maybe someone else should begin reporting everything, just to get a head start.

[Lore]

He'll report every single post.(gonna be epic brah)

my email inbox will explode :bigcry:

[MrLick]

Maybe someone else should begin reporting everything, just to get a head start.

NO! He must do it himself, it will be his journey.

my email inbox will explode

The site will crash too?

[Tonsu]

We just gave Mark exactly what he wanted by having this thread.


In a way - attention - yes I agree.

But, it shows that the silent majority (not those he harrasses by PM or via facebook etc etc), when given a chance to speak (and not mobbed by his own distractions and smoke-screens), can call him out for exactly what he is.

I think (at least I hope) it's a wake up call for him. If it's not, there'll be another one shortly down the line, it's inevitable.

I'd like to draw attention again to Space Cadet's concerns about his attempts at 'recruitment' of young/teenage/underage members to become his 'supporters'. I have first-hand proof of this which I'll gladly pass on to Ian if it becomes necessary when and if he complains about the 'slanderous lies' on this thread. Deeply disturbing behaviour.

[Empily]

Is he unbanned now?
Technically it's the 18th now isn't it? :P

[noonsun]

holy shit I just realized his little group of people went INSIDE Chris/Gwyneth's house... that is creepy beyond words.

[Lore]

inside? :uhoh:

[noonsun]

yea hold on I'll fetch a pic, you can see people in the house in one of them

[Notion]

I hope he never comes back

[noonsun]

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs245.snc1/9228_139518891989_557111989_3163407_7502357_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3163384&id=557111989) Creepy shit huh

[Notion]

I hope they didn't bother Chris.. :uhoh:
I think even him would get annoyed by Mark

[Space Cadet]

Creepy shit huhLooks like weirded out builders having a laugh at the crazy people taking pictures in the street to me. :inquisitive:

We just gave Mark exactly what he wanted by having this thread.
Yes. Yes you are. It's why I tried to gently suggest you stop earlier. I will suggest it again now. Next time I will be a little louder, and then it will be followed by "moos" or some other bit of disapproving randomness.

[noonsun]

They aren't living in it now... it's just under construction.

But I am pretty sure what they did was illegal, actually. >.>

[an angel]

It's hard to tell whether that's them in the house or not.

[noonsun]

Looks like weirded out builders having a laugh at the crazy people taking pictures in the street to me. :inquisitive:

Yeah, probably is, actually. The only real reason I think it's them is two of the women were wearing green shirts, and somebody in there was.

[MrLick]

Looks like weirded out builders having a laugh at the crazy people taking pictures in the street to me. :inquisitive:


Yes. Yes you are. It's why I tried to gently suggest you stop earlier. I will suggest it again now. Next time I will be a little louder, and then it will be followed by "moos" or some other bit of disapproving randomness.

Me? You mean we....

[Lore]

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs245.snc1/9228_139518891989_557111989_3163407_7502357_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3163384&id=557111989) Creepy shit huh

this:
Looks like weirded out builders having a laugh at the crazy people taking pictures in the street to me.

[Space Cadet]

^^I meant a collective you.

[an angel]

There's also a person in the house with a white shirt, and none of the people were wearing a white shirt.

[Notion]

They aren't living in it now... it's just under construction.

But I am pretty sure what they did was illegal, actually. >.>

ok Thank God

and yeah, probably

[MrLick]

^^I meant a collective you.

Ok. I agree.

[noonsun]

There's also a person in the house with a white shirt, and none of the people were wearing a white shirt.

Yep, I need to look closer next time.

Still weird, though. I mean stalking his house.

[MrLick]

Yep, I need to look closer next time.

Still weird, though. I mean stalking his house.

I once followed Chris across Europe for a year....

[Tonsu]

To the people here who are not trying to work out many years of frustration, abuse, and manipulation, I ask that you look up the last few threads Mark posted in before you judge either side too quickly.

The definition of an internet troll is someone who is disruptive for attention or personal amusement.

Apparently, a large group of girls who were tired of arguing got the message and finally learned how to ignore Mark completely. This is the first time I have ever seen that happen on this board. Normally when people ignore him it doesn't last very long for many reasons. So I payed very close attention to his behavior once an entire group had finally succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible. It was a group of mainly teenage girls who had set up a thread full of -basically- pure girl talk. Something he had nothing to do with. He interjected non-sequiters every few posts. When no one reacted to these he went into other threads and whined about how unfair it was that he was being ignored by these girls. His behavior in the girls' thread became more and more erratic up until the moment he was banned.

I can only assume that either they finally reported him or he reported them for ignoring him. Either way, I think this ranks as conclusive proof. Mark needs attention.

This makes him by definition a troll.

Unlike your usual bored teenage troll however, he seems to be genuinely trying to get something out of this place that he needs in real life that we cannot give him. He is trying to interact with all these teenagers but expects them to act like his version of what adults are. They are not adults, they are teenagers. They cannot and will not conform to his world view. The fact that he seems to need them to, and the way he inappropriately acts towards them and pries into people's lives leads me to believe that although he may be benign, he is in fact the sort of person your mother warned you about- older men trying to pass themselves off as a teenagers on the internet for their own agenda.

I don't agree with the way much of this thread played out. But everything said here has pretty much been said to his face at one time or another. (Some of it by me though he never seems to be able to comprehend that.) This thread has allowed people to finally compare notes in public without interruption to piece together the bigger picture. I get the impression that many of them are counting on Mark reading it hoping that he will finally understand what they have been trying to tell him for many years now.

It's easy to think of a character like a piece of old furniture. It's just always there so you put up with it. I've even defended him on that basis many times. But this week has made me realize just how inappropriate his behavior has actually been. There are children on this board and for lack of a better term the way he treats them can be very creepy. Frankly, I think it might be best if anyone under 18 avoids giving out any personal information that he might see.


Mark, if you are reading this, I'm saying this because I'm worried about you: perhaps you should look into seeing a good psychologist or counselor. This board is not a substitution for one.



I don't want to debate this any further. Be wise all of you, please take the higher ground, (especially the mods who really ought to attempt to act neutrally on the matter) and remember. Don't feed the troll.

Quoted again for truth (apart from the part about mods remaining neutral - Mark attacks most of them all the time, and if Busybee wasn't so laid back he would have banned this troll years ago).

[Space Cadet]

Thus my point about taking the higher ground.

[Tonsu]

Thus my point about taking the higher ground.

Was that in reply to me?

If so, higher ground?

[Space Cadet]

Don't you get it? This is what he does. This is what he doesn't even have to try to do really. If you have a problem where someone is acting like a jerk, acting like a jerk back lets the original jerk point and say "you're a jerk too". And he will be right.

If you always take the moral high ground and never give in to the temptation to be anything less than perfect to that person no matter how much they deserve otherwise, you can pin their own actions on them without distraction. You get to show them up as the jerk they are. So yes, trying to act fairly is important. Vital, even.

You have to be squeaky clean and perfect and on message. And you have to be united in not playing the game. Not gossiping, not pointing out things that don't really matter to the main message. Not taking the opportunity to shove in an extra dagger to the mix.

Trolls will always win the game. You need to be above the game so that they can't drag you down into it.

[Tonsu]

Don't you get it? This is what he does. This is what he doesn't even have to try to do really. If you have a problem where someone is acting like a jerk, acting like a jerk back lets the original jerk point and say "you're a jerk too". And he will be right.

If you always take the moral high ground and never give in to the temptation to be anything less than perfect to that person no matter how much they deserve otherwise, you can pin their own actions on them without distraction. You get to show them up as the jerk they are. So yes, trying to act fairly is important. Vital, even.

You have to be squeaky clean and perfect and on message. And you have to be united in not playing the game. Not gossiping, not pointing out things that don't really matter to the main message. Not taking the opportunity to shove in an extra dagger to the mix.

Trolls will always win the game. You need to be above the game so that they can't drag you down into it.

Thanks for clarifying. That's exactly what I and many others try to do with regards to Mark, hence why I wondered why your question was directed at me.

BUT a united board all acting in the same way? Impossible. And how does that tally with your idea of protecting young newcomers from being hassled?

[Heiner]

This day is already half over in continental Europe.
Something really positive might have happened.

[Julie]

*hides*

[Notion]

OH NO :uhoh:

[Heiner]

*hides*

Hahaha, why?

[Notion]

why does he have to come back on my day off?!?! :bigcry:

[Heiner]

why does he have to come back on my day off?!?! :bigcry:

But he didn't yet.

[Julie]

Hahaha, why?

His account was unbanned today. :P

[Notion]

But he didn't yet.

I know, but he probably will :P

[Italian Plastic]

IM SCARED

[Nikki84]

But he didn't yet.
He might stay away?

[Notion]

let me see if he's online

[Notion]

nope, he's offline at the moment

[Julie]

IM SCARED

What are you doing up so early? :lol:

[Notion]

What are you doing up so early? :lol:

I think it's around 2 am there :lol:
and yeah.. he usually stays up late

[Empily]

I bet you he won't come online today :lol:

[Notion]

I bet you he won't come online today :lol:

*prays to God that he won't*

[Italian Plastic]

I think it's around 2 am there :lol:
and yeah.. he usually stays up late

I'm awesome like that

[Notion]

I'm awesome like that

hell yeah man

[Stefan-C8]

He isn't back yet? Maybe he forgot his password.

Mark if you read this, try anything with paedo... paedo69, i_am_paedo, paedo4life, whatever :nice:

[Reilly]

'paedo4life' Haha!

I had a feeling this might happen. Theres too much for him to deal with in this thread, too many logical debates, too many reasonable people finally coming together and openly discussing his behaviour, where could he possibly start to defend himself?

The fact is I dont think anyone here is looking for a defence, just for him to piss off for good. Im done with knowing about the guy and the only thing he does is bring negativity here (Even if doing it in a 'positive' way).

I can imagine his tactic is to let it blow over, soon he'll start posting here and there, maybe in different forums, then gradually working his way into being a regular poster and hope that we'll just forget about this.

It'll take a long time for me to forget some of the things Ive discovered in this thread.

[india rubber]

'paedo4life' Haha!

I had a feeling this might happen. Theres too much for him to deal with in this thread, too many logical debates, too many reasonable people finally coming together and openly discussing his behaviour, where could he possibly start to defend himself?

The fact is I dont think anyone here is looking for a defence, just for him to piss off for good. Im done with knowing about the guy and the only thing he does is bring negativity here (Even if doing it in a 'positive' way).

I can imagine his tactic is to let it blow over, soon he'll start posting here and there, maybe in different forums, then gradually working his way into being a regular poster and hope that we'll just forget about this.

It'll take a long time for me to forget some of the things Ive discovered in this thread.

Same here.

[Glossal Fragster]

It'll take a long time for me to forget some of the things Ive discovered in this thread.


Can I use this quote, as a quote, for me to win "Most influential thread created by a chap named James"?

[Reilly]

I encourage you to! Its got my vote.

[Reilly]

On 2nd thought this thread changed the way we look at the word "Hello":

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61502

Sorry Frags.

[Glossal Fragster]

Ah, shit. All other James' are pointless.

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

This thread is fun to read.
I'm on page 17.

[Lore]

page 42 :o

[/fangirl]

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

page 42 :o

[/fangirl]

Lore :nice:

[Gitta Rensolo]

so?

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

so?

WUT?

[Gitta Rensolo]

unbanned or not unbanned?

[Reilly]

Hes been online but no posts, unbanned.

[Gitta Rensolo]

wowww.....so there'll either be a bomb within the next days or nothing at all...

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

Wow.. everyone is expecting something to happen..
I'm curious now.

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

I bet he's reading this thread.
Or not.

I'm still reading :P

[Reilly]

Like I said the last page, he'll gradually get back to us. We've seen how he dodges these things before, only this is much bigger then anything before and it'll take more time.

Id say he could be reading. Notion gave him abuse when he logged in so hes probably on as a guest.

[Gitta Rensolo]

yes you should read everything

[Gitta Rensolo]

Like I said the last page, he'll gradually get back to us. We've seen how he dodges these things before, only this is much bigger then anything before and it'll take more time.

Id say he could be reading. Notion gave him abuse when he logged in so hes probably on as a guest.

you might be right. So I am really curious what is going to happen....and how mmany complaints and reports will follow

[Reilly]

I cant see how that would work, hes going to report like maybe 100 posts spread over 10 or 20 board members? Surely even Marks not that stupid, he'll realise that he will be in trouble, not us.

[Reilly]

Hmm Im instantly rethinking that actually, he might not be that stupid, but insanely crusading for himself to be correct nomatter what extremes he has to go through- maybe.

[Glossal Fragster]

I just hope he returns with cake.

[Tonsu]

I just hope if he does return there is some positive outcome from this.

- How many people see what he has been doing for so long as trolling.

- The great point that Space Cadet made about him instantly latching onto new members, especially younger/teenage/underage members, which while may just be a case of trying to influence the impressionable, can also be seen as deeply creepy and unwelcome.

[Gitta Rensolo]

yes it would be super stupid....but who knows? I expect the worst

I want cheese cake btw...

[Reilly]

Carrot cake!

Or, carrot cheese cake? Is that possible? :stunned:

Carrots and cheese dont mix, but in cake form... Hmmm... :thinking:

[Glossal Fragster]

I'd prefer a nice soft cake, with a lot of icing.


Mark, you'll have to make another!

[Reilly]

Thats 3 cakes in counting.

Well actually 4. Id like the carrot-cheese cake, and a reserve carrot cake if it the experiment doesn't taste nice.

[MrMagpie]

On 2nd thought this thread changed the way we look at the word "Hello":

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61502

Sorry Frags.

Yeah Flosser, you've got nothign on the new king james.

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

Ok I'm done reading :stunned:
Entertaining thread.
Nothing said about him surprised me at all.

[Glossal Fragster]

Yeah Flosser, you've got nothign on the new king james.

Aw, get lost. I'm well better than him. By the way, he callaed you and Reilly "Smelly poo people" a while back. You think you know someone...

[Reilly]

Ok I'm done reading :stunned:
Entertaining thread.
Nothing said about him surprised me at all.

Well thats probably the biggest insult in here haha.

Even I was surprised by a lot of things in here.

[Reilly]

Aw, get lost. I'm well better than him. By the way, he callaed you and Reilly "Smelly poo people" a while back. You think you know someone...

WHHAAAT :angry:

Well this Smelly Poo Person just changed his vote! :nice:

Congratulations James!

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58263

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

Well thats probably the biggest insult in here haha.

Even I was surprised by a lot of things in here.

Well, we all know how he is.
He even killed my fav thread, the Tennis thread ):

Damn it.

[Glossal Fragster]

WHHAAAT :angry:

Well this Smelly Poo Person just changed his vote! :nice:

Congratulations James!

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58263

Yeah, he said you were a bit like a penis, as did every other person on this forum, named "James" (excluding me).

They all had a "Hey, we're named James, and aren't Reilly & Briggins Smelly Poo Penises!?"

I was busy/I love you two.

[Gitta Rensolo]

I want apple pie

he might be back at tea time

[MrMagpie]

Aw, get lost. I'm well better than him. By the way, he callaed you and Reilly "Smelly poo people" a while back. You think you know someone...

Who called me smelly poo?

I'd like to smell their poo!

[Glossal Fragster]

Who called me smelly poo?

I'd like to smell their poo!

Every other coldplaying member named James. Not me though. I think all poo's smell equal.

[William]

Every other coldplaying member named James. Not me though. I think all poo's smell equal.

That is so not true!

[Glossal Fragster]

That is so not true!

Well, would you agree that calling someone a "smelly poo" is a bit pointless? You don't need the adjective in there. Like saying "That's a choppy knife".

[Gitta Rensolo]

according to poo smell....do you make differences between people or do you make differences between different kinds of poos of one person?

I'd go for the second

[Reilly]

Well, would you agree that calling someone a "smelly poo" is a bit pointless? You don't need the adjective in there. Like saying "That's a choppy knife".

Generally poos do smell, but surely in the history of everything, there would have been a poo that was odourless.

[William]

Well, would you agree that calling someone a "smelly poo" is a bit pointless? You don't need the adjective in there. Like saying "That's a choppy knife".

Maybe. Still, why would you say "He is as strong as a bear" and not "He is a bear"?

Exactly.

/Bad point

[Reilly]

But wouldnt that mean hes stronger then most other bears? Or if it was a weak bear, he would be weak for a bears standards.

[*Perrine*]

How the fuck did we end up talking about poo ? xD
Anyway... let's stop talking about him, could only make things worse !

[Glossal Fragster]

Because poo brings everyone together.

[Reilly]

Depends how sticky it is :thinking:

[an angel]

This thread has made a disgusting turn.

[Glossal Fragster]

It was already pretty disgusting.

[Reilly]

I think the tone has heightened since the introduction of poo.

[an angel]

How about we talk about the other poo, as in Whinnie the Pooh.

[Empily]

*walks in thread*

:stunned:

*walks out of thread* :escaping:

[Reilly]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:G6jtBMe4mRypCM:http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/BoobyBouncer/funny%20stuff/shit.gif

[an angel]

Oh gosh. :sick:

[Empily]

You know that Winnie is a girls name and Winnie the pooh is supposed to be a boy?

Well thats coz his name is actually Winither pooh but it was shortened to "winnie the"

True and completely unnecessary story :cool:

[an angel]

Interesting... sources? :tongue:

[HorrificAttack]

Why is he a Pooh bear? I don't understand

also the stuff on the last page reminded me of the "paedo_squared" account which I either made, or thought I did but actually didn't

[Space Cadet]

You know that Winnie is a girls name and Winnie the pooh is supposed to be a boy?

Well thats coz his name is actually Winither pooh but it was shortened to "winnie the"

True and completely unnecessary story :cool:It's because there was a bear at a zoo named Winnie after the city of Winnepeg.

YouTube- A Part Of Our Heritage - Winnie The Pooh

[Empily]

I have a Winnie the pooh book and I will type out what the first page says when I find it...

[an angel]

Hmm... two conflicting stories. :thinking:

[Reilly]

*WRONG THREAD DELETE AT ONCE!!!*

[Empily]

Right this is from chapter 1 page 1 from "Winnie the pooh"

Here he is at the bottom of the stairs ready to be introduced to you. Winnie-the-pooh.
When I first heard his name, I said, just as you are going to say, "But I thought he was a boy?"
"So did I" said Christopher Robin.
"Then you can't call him Winnie."
"I don't."
"But you said..."
"He's Winnie-ther-pooh. Don't you know what "ther" means?"
"Ah yes, now I do," I said quickly; and I hope you do too, because it is all the explanation you are going to get.

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

lulwut.

[Lore]

:freak:

[an angel]

So this thread has gone from puns, to pedophilia, to poo, and now Pooh.

What P word should we talk about next?

[i'maveryneatMonster.']

Popcorn* edited lol.

[HorrificAttack]

PENIS

[colduser]

:blush:

[Julie]

:blush:

Your favorite subject! :cheesy:

[Reilly]

Cuddy.

[colduser]

Your favorite subject! :cheesy:

One of many!

[noonsun]

The other being... what? Anus or something?

[colduser]

The other being... what? Anus or something?

It's not all about sex for me. I have many other interests. Teaching, nature, photography, MUSIC, reading:nice:

[noonsun]

I was kidding of course :P

I like birds. :wacky: Pretty pictures of birds. I am really good at drawing them, they're the only thing I ever draw anymore. They are so pretty. And feathery.

[colduser]

I was kidding of course :P

I like birds. :wacky: Pretty pictures of birds. I am really good at drawing them, they're the only thing I ever draw anymore. They are so pretty. And feathery.

You're also crazy fucking talented with your fanfic:kiss:

[Glossal Fragster]

Daaay 2, in the Coldplaying loooounge. Mark still hasn't returned. What on eaaaarth is going on? (Big Brother voice)

[Notion]

:blank: ^ that

[Glossal Fragster]

I'm bored. That's definitely a fact (true etc.)

[Reilly]

Uhm. This is great.

[Glossal Fragster]

I know. Back to poo?

[Reilly]

Dont be so nutty :rolleyes:

[Notion]

Oh no, :o Mark took over Reilly's account :disappointed:

[Reilly]

I Reilly doubt that :rolleyes:

[Notion]

:bigcry: GTFO!

[Lore]

:uhoh:

[Crests]

:wtf:

[Notion]

:bigcry:

[Reilly]

If you keep crying there will be an Notion of tears :rolleyes:

[noonsun]

Reilly, you're a penis.

(this is the litmus test right here)

[Reilly]

Sounds more like a titmus test :rolleyes:

(This is hard ok? :thinking: )

[noonsun]

He wouldn't say that, he would go something like:

"On the contrary, that point is very utterly irrelevant, as I would say YOU are the genitalia in question on this occasion:smug::laugh3:"

[Notion]

He wouldn't say that, he would go something like:

"On the contrary, that point is very utterly irrelevant, as I would say YOU are the genitalia in question on this occasion:smug::laugh3:"

that

[Reilly]

Sorry I should know better.

"Biased mobbing as usual, I think most here would agree that indeed you are the phallic symbol :smug: :rolleyes: ".

Something more like that?

[Notion]

^probably

[noonsun]

Yeah, that's good. Then, when we complain, you say that we should learn to take p*ss.

Taking p*ss is one of the most important things in the world to Mark. Remember, it's an important point.

[Reilly]

Oh yeah, because he writes p*ss instead of piss, its not offensive, forgot about that.

[an angel]

Square is he anyway? :rolleyes:

[Reilly]

Does anyone really square? :smug: :rolleyes:

[an angel]

He'll be back. Mark my words. :rolleyes:

[Italian Plastic]

haha :rolleyes:

[Electric.Candy]

he hasn't cum back. It's Dec 20 folks :cheesy:

[Notion]

Thank God!

[Electric.Candy]

I jsut noticed. Today is 20-12-09.. 2012...09 :shifty:

[noonsun]

This is like Christmas. But instead of the birth of an incarnation of God... well.. it isn't like Christmas.

[Notion]

the world WON'T end in 2012 :nice:

[Electric.Candy]

Will the world end if he comes back?

[Notion]

no.. but it'd be a disaster just like 9/11

[Electric.Candy]

more like The Second Coming.

[Notion]

it would be like 9/11, the Pearl Harbor attack, and every other major attack in history

[Electric.Candy]

WW3 FTW. Nuff said.

[an angel]

Okay, you're exaggerating a bit.

[Electric.Candy]

^ I bet that's Shane.

[Notion]

who ? what ? where ?:wtf:

[RICK8]

He's back.

[Notion]

):

[RICK8]

:D

[Julie]

^ I bet that's Shane.

who ? what ? where ?:wtf:

You two are so deluded.

[Notion]

You two are so delirious.

ok

[Electric.Candy]

You two are so deluded.

like I said, I bet that's Shane


@ Rick: why d'you say he's back? like he posted something or what

[RICK8]

like I said, I bet that's Shane


@ Rick: why d'you say he's back? like he posted something or what



I got a PM,not the same i guess.

[Reilly]

Hes been online, I guess that means hes back.

Then again hes probably been here all the time as a guest.

[Reilly]

I got a PM,not the same i guess.

Post it! The public Rick, think of the public! They need to know.

[Electric.Candy]

Oh ok

[RICK8]

Post it! The public Rick, think of the public! They need to know.



but it's a private message.....:lol:

[Reilly]

Its the 21st century, CCTV, screening, tapping, it'll all come out eventually, so just get it over and post it!

[Electric.Candy]

might as well you copy and paste it instead?

[Julie]

but it's a private message.....:lol:

Nothing is private on the internet! Post it!

[Not An Alias]

:surprised:

[an angel]

You think I'm Shane?

[Notion]

You think I'm Shane?

how could I be her?