I am getting, like, really really into classical music

[noonsun]

Somebody suggest something for me to listen to :wacky: This stuff is great.

[jenflor]

what kind of stuff are you liking most? Which composers?

[Gautama]

YouTube- Mozart Klarinetten Konzert Kv.622-2, Karl Bohm, Prinz

very beautiful!

[noonsun]

what kind of stuff are you liking most? Which composers?

Like all of them.

I'm thinking I like the Baroque sort of stuff the best right now, though. Very different from music you hear today.

[india rubber]

YouTube- Penderecki: "The Dream of Jacob"

:thumbsup:

[Gautama]

^ got that from jonny, eh? :)

[Gitta Rensolo]

some of my favourites:

YouTube- BOLERO-RAVEL

YouTube- Die Moldau (Smetana)

YouTube- Ode an die Freude
best part of Beethoven's 9th:heart:

YouTube- Georg Friedrich Händel Feuerwerksmusik Ouvertüre
I love this so much:bigcry:

I guess there will be more that comes to my mind....:cheesy:

[Gitta Rensolo]

double post

[Space Cadet]

Baroque, eh?

Check out Rameau. He was awesome. For something wacky check out Bob James' versions...

You can't go wrong with Vivaldi, especially the Four Seasons. I love a lot of his work.
Handel's stuff is mind blowing if you ever get the chance to hear it well done live.

And of course, there's the master, Bach. His organ music is something special. His big orchestral stuff is great too.

Classical era-

I'm not the biggest fan of the era myself, but of course there's Beethoven. His 6th Symphony is a classic (That was the one in Fantasia, right?). There's one movement of his 7th symphony that gives me chills every time I hear it. It's so dark compared to most classical-era music. (According to grooveshark it's the second movement). It's one of my absolute favorite classical (in the broad sense) pieces.

Mozart you can't go wrong with the Magic Flute.

Romantic era-

now we're talking.

Gustav Holst - The Planet Suite Just listen. It's all around awesome. Mars and Jupiter are the classics from it, but my favorite is Saturn- it's terrifying, listening to time slip away into the darkness like that. And (is it Neptune or Uranus? Neptune, I think) where the mad wizard is dancing around.

Smetna's Moldau - Mentioned already, but it's my #1 favorite 'classical' piece. I love it so much. The rest of the suite is great too. It's so beautiful.

Respighi - The Pines of Rome - Beautiful work. Great for studying to.

Chopin and Rachmaninov- don't know anything specific to recommend, I usually just listen to them in phases.




Well that ought to help get you started, huh? Have you studied any of the eras/styles or are you just enjoying what you hear as you go along?

[noonsun]

Well, I've studied them a little bit... I mean I'm writing a paper about musical references in a book, so I had to make sure I knew a little about classical music, and I started listening to some of it... zomg amazing. :stunned: I know some of these already. Like Bach's cello suites, they're really good, and some stuff by Mozart, and I've liked Camille Saint-Saens for a while now. The Planet Suite that you mentioned sounds really interesting, I'll give it a listen later, I've got to go fairly soon.

[Space Cadet]

The big thing to realize about the different eras is that each one has been built on a different aspect of music.

Medieval music was built around simple melodies, often with very little accompaniment.

Baroque started meshing several of those melodies together in layers which is what gives it such a big, rich sound. That's called counterpoint Over time the melodies became more and more complex until we ended up with the brief, completely over-the-top era known as Rococo.

The Classical era started when people got sick of the layers and wanted to base music around a single, very embellished melody line with everything else supporting it.

As the melodies became more complex and frilly people began to think that they should have a point, a story to explain them. That is where the Romantic era began. Music started sounding less like formal pieces and more like soundtracks.

The more abstract pieces became thanks to Romanticism, the more people in the early 20th century became fixated on the idea of throwing out all the rules and seeing what they came up with. Atonality became the rule of the day, and structure was often thrown out the window. This is referred to as the modern era. (We're in the post-modern era).

The problem was, most normal people couldn't handle modern era music. It often wasn't very pleasant to listen to. At the same time, since the freeing of the slaves after the American civil war African and folk music styles were blending into to popular consciousness in waves, first in Ragtime, then Jazz and swing, and finally in the Blues. These styles were formed on the basis of chords and rhythms rather than melody.

The blues gave birth to rock, modern day music became all about chords, and the rest as they say is history...

...Until now, where even chords are fading and music is more and more frequently being formed entirely around rhythms. (see rap).



And that is why all the different types of music sound different in a nutshell.

[noonsun]

:surprised: That's interesting.

I feel like a music noob now :disappointed:

[Space Cadet]

:surprised: That's interesting.

I feel like a music noob now :disappointed:Don't. I had to study this stuff for school once.

But it all really does explain why music is the way it is.

For instance music is going to have to change again sooner rather than later- people have just plain run out of chord combinations. What's next? We'll see.

But people's brains are usually trained to listen to a certain part of music and think that that one part is music. That's why rock was the devil's music. It worked on the basis of chords and to some extent rhythm- which was heresy to a brain trained on melody. The Grammy awards were actually set up by melody-based musicians like Frank Sinatra to show the rock and rollers what "real" music was.

Every era change went through the same thing. It was a reaction to what the last era had become, but worked on a new basis and so "wasn't music" in the eyes of preceding generation. It was particularly nasty at the end of the Baroque era. I think people might have even been jailed for it. Rameau was banned for a time.

Look at what's happening now- all the old rock types are pointing and saying that rap isn't music. It doesn't have melody. Ironic, eh?

[jenflor]

I'll second the recommendations for Vivaldi and Handel- absolutely beautiful.

Some great specific symphonies- Beethoven's Symphony no. 5 "Fate"
Dvorak's "New World" Symphony- No. 9, I believe
Tchaichovsky also had some beautiful symphonies- apart from the Nutcracker- there's Swan Lake, and Sleeping Beauty.

I personally love music composed for piano, so I love a lot of Chopin, Lizst, and Rachmaninoff, too. A great kind of sampler of those three composers, plus some Beethoven and Vivaldi thrown in, is the soundtrack to the movie Shine. The movie itself is excellent, and I love the soundtrack. :)

and thanks, Space Cadet, for the music lesson. I love the music, but know very little about the eras and what differentiates them! :)

[Tnspieler1012]

suggestions

Debussy's suite bergamamasque (with clair de lune) and his preludes are just beautiful.
YouTube- Suite Bergamasque - Prélude (Debussy)

Chopin's Nocturnes, suffocation prelude and etudes YouTube- Ashkenazy plays Chopin Nocturne No.20 in C sharp Minor (1830)

Beethoven's sonata's no. 8 and 14 (each movement is amazing), and of course his 5th symphony. YouTube- Beethoven-Piano Sonata no 8'Pathetique'op 13 (Freddy Kempf)

Bach's brandenburg concerto is a must, also check out his organ fugues.

Vivaldi's four seasons of course, as you see I'm only mentioning hit singles.

I adore Rachmaninoff's 'bells of moscow' prelude

YouTube- Ashkenazy plays Rachmaninoff Prelude in C sharp Minor op.3 no.2

I also adore eric satie's gymopedies because they're based on my favorite chords.

YouTube- Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1

[Juanma8]

YouTube- Postcards from far away - Coldplay [NEW ALBUM PROSPEKT'S MARCH 2008]

:wink3:

[Gitta Rensolo]

OMG I totally forgot about the Peer Gynt music by Edvard Grieg:heart:
(romantic era btw....)

[Space Cadet]

OMG I totally forgot about the Peer Gynt music by Edvard Grieg:heart:
(romantic era btw....)Ah, me too. :embarassed:

When I was really little my dad used to put on "In the Hall of the Giant King" from that and chase us around the house pretending to be the giant. It was fun. :D

[mikamay]

suggestions

Debussy's suite bergamamasque (with clair de lune) and his preludes are just beautiful.
YouTube- Suite Bergamasque - Prélude (Debussy) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiIVA7tQIDo)


Oh, yes! I'll admit that I don't know a whole lot about classical music, but Debussy is by far one of my favorite composers. :)

[bear]

yes, its cliche, but:
YouTube- Yo-Yo Ma plays the prelude from Bach´s Cello Suite No. 1

SRSLY.

[the_gloaming09]

this is one of my favorites

Debussy-Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7loz-HWUM

[chuck kottke]

I'll take a gander at Debussy, but I re-discovered Gershwin recently, and now it's one of my all-time favorites: - Rhapsody in Blue:YouTube - Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue - Part 2

[Faust]

suggestions

Debussy's suite bergamamasque (with clair de lune) and his preludes are just beautiful.
YouTube- Suite Bergamasque - Prélude (Debussy) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiIVA7tQIDo)

Chopin's Nocturnes, suffocation prelude and etudes YouTube- Ashkenazy plays Chopin Nocturne No.20 in C sharp Minor (1830) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToAVagPfWUU&feature=related)

Beethoven's sonata's no. 8 and 14 (each movement is amazing), and of course his 5th symphony. YouTube- Beethoven-Piano Sonata no 8'Pathetique'op 13 (Freddy Kempf) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5PTHMOFujY)

Bach's brandenburg concerto is a must, also check out his organ fugues.

Vivaldi's four seasons of course, as you see I'm only mentioning hit singles.

I adore Rachmaninoff's 'bells of moscow' prelude

YouTube- Ashkenazy plays Rachmaninoff Prelude in C sharp Minor op.3 no.2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSO6dfTgVOY&feature=PlayList&p=AC1B0019E2CC9CCC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=43)

I also adore eric satie's gymopedies because they're based on my favorite chords.

YouTube- Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU)

Your suggestions are very good. Specially the Gymnopédie No. 1 which I never heard before and I really like it. :nice:

btw, I really really like Beethoven... maybe this is a good recomendation too, his Piano Concerto N° 5
It just takes me to other place...

YouTube- Beethoven Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat major, Op. 73

Oh and Liszt...

YouTube- Liszt Liebestraum

Hope you like them noonsun. :nice:

[noonsun]

YouTube- Postcards from far away - Coldplay [NEW ALBUM PROSPEKT'S MARCH 2008] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbI-B-hffbM)

:wink3:

no.


The rest are yummy though :wacky:

[jenflor]

yes, its cliche, but:
YouTube- Yo-Yo Ma plays the prelude from Bach´s Cello Suite No. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn_VBgkPNY)

SRSLY.

Darcy-
this may be ubiquitous, but it's never cliche. LOVE IT.

[Passenger]

Rimsky Korsakov's Capriccio Espagnole is great! Can't keep my feet still!
Here's the first part:
YouTube- Rimsky-Korsakov: Capriccio espagnole, Op 34 [Part 1] (Mariinsky 2007 Gergiev)


I am also a big Shostakovich Fan. Love his first Violin Concerto. I post the medium bit which is my fav part.
YouTube- Hilary Hahn - Shostakovich Violin Concerto (part 3)


Moreover, a great modern piece is Milhaud's "Le boeuf sur le toit". It's really funny!
YouTube- Domenico Nordio plays D.Milhaud-Le Boeuf Sur Le Toit(Part-1)
(Not the best recording...)

Otherwise I am also a big fan of Prokofiev (Peter and the Wolf :)) and Gershwin.

[ricardo]

me rates this thread 10

[mikamay]

I'll take a gander at Debussy, but I re-discovered Gershwin recently, and now it's one of my all-time favorites: - Rhapsody in Blue:YouTube - Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhj9W9CoNfQ)

Oh Gershwin. Him and Robert Johnson were probably two of the only good things to come out my poorly instructed music theory class.

[noonsun]

yes, its cliche, but:
YouTube- Yo-Yo Ma plays the prelude from Bach´s Cello Suite No. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn_VBgkPNY)

SRSLY.

Oh I have that on my iPod actually :sweatdrop: I love it.

[ricardo]

YouTube- Postcards from far away - Coldplay [NEW ALBUM PROSPEKT'S MARCH 2008] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbI-B-hffbM)

:wink3:

No
Really No

[Juanma8]

:( :bigcry: why no ? :D

its a little piece of classical music :P

[noonsun]

No
Really No

I already said that ricardo :heart:

:( :bigcry: why no ? :D

its a little piece of classical music :P

Only no?

[violetsparks]

This is a lovely thread. :wacky:

[Space Cadet]

me rates this thread 10

This is a lovely thread. :wacky:

Really happy about all the classical love here. :nice: Some people think it's scary, but It's really rewarding if you give it a chance. Balanced musical diets are a good thing. :cool:

[Tnspieler1012]

^ *runs off to find most intense schoenberg composition he can find*

[chuck kottke]

Oh Gershwin. Him and Robert Johnson were probably two of the only good things to come out my poorly instructed music theory class.:laugh3:
Well, it must have been some wild class! I recall in the mists of my memory that Gershwin wrote his Rhapsody in Blue after riding on a train (steam train) - perhaps incorporating some of the sounds and experiences from the train ride into the music.. Robert Johnson - I'll need to take a refresher course on his music..:inquisitive:

[Tnspieler1012]

on a related note. 'Manhattan' anybody?

[ricardo]

I already said that ricardo :heart:

But I did not







in addition it had to be said twice
or four times
Really happy about all the classical love here. :nice: Some people think it's scary, but It's really rewarding if you give it a chance. Balanced musical diets are a good thing. :cool:
I created a thread for classical music right when I was a classical n00b, not that I am a learned guy now but I'm not that bad :lol:
It must be in page 10 or so in WOM section

[the_gloaming09]

some other pieces i like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYxfI2Hj7_0

[Tnspieler1012]

But I did not







in addition it had to be said twice
or four times

I created a thread for classical music right when I was a classical n00b, not that I am a learned guy now but I'm not that bad :lol:
It must be in page 10 or so in WOM section
I tried looking for it but failed. This must've been the 3rd classical music thread in the last year or so, which is cool...but I find myself reposting the same stuff everytime there's a new thread.

[watsername182]

I never thought I'd be saying this, but I'm starting to like classical music as well.
It may have something to do with me listening to Coldplay and Muse. :)

[watsername182]

some other pieces i like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ


I can't help but think of Muse and HAARP when I hear this.

[inthecoldwhichplays]

:D muse

[Electric.Candy]

Oh and Liszt...

YouTube- Liszt Liebestraum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6hdDOFtW64)

Hope you like them noonsun. :nice:


Its wonderful, I love Liszt! I have that on my iPod. And I was able to play the first part of it but that damn piece is just too hard :dead:

[violetsparks]

Its wonderful, I love Liszt! I have that on my iPod. And I was able to play the first part of it but that damn piece is just too hard :dead:

Liszt is hard in general. :dead:

[inthecoldwhichplays]

Its wonderful, I love Liszt! I have that on my iPod. And I was able to play the first part of it but that damn piece is just too hard :dead:

what instrument do you play?

[ricardo]

try Corelli

[Tnspieler1012]

what's ya'lls opinion of postmodern minimalist stuff like Phillip Glass?

[neonhorn22]

suggestions

I also adore eric satie's gymopedies because they're based on my favorite chords.

YouTube- Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU)

I have those on CD! Also from that same CD is one of my favorite impressionistic pieces by Debussy called "Nocturnes"
This is the movement of that piece called "Nuages". It's hauntingly beautiful.
YouTube- Part 1 - Stokowski - Debussy Nocturnes-Nuages 1940


I'm also partial to Tschaikowsky's symphonies...particularly symphonies #4 and #5.

Rachmaninoff's piano concertos are amazing, too. The song "All By Myself" is actually derived from his 2nd piano concerto.

And the Brahms symphonies are also lovely. As a horn player, I tend to err towards music from the Romantic period because that is all the good stuff for horn.

[neonhorn22]

what's ya'lls opinion of postmodern minimalist stuff like Phillip Glass?

It's intriguining, but not really my cup of tea. I remember having to compose our own tone rows back in college, a la Schoenberg, and I always made my tone rows consonant instead of dissonant.

[Tnspieler1012]

I bought c.d's of debussy's and eric satie's preludes and nocturnes this summer which are just tremendous. Did you get reprimanded for not surrendering to atonality?

[Faust]

Here's the original thread:

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50513&page=5


some other pieces i like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ

I'm starting to like Prokofiev... I reaally like how he plays Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade in this:

YouTube- Prokofiev plays "Scheherazade"

[neonhorn22]

I bought c.d's of debussy's and eric satie's preludes and nocturnes this summer which are just tremendous. Did you get reprimanded for not surrendering to atonality?

No, no! I wouldn't say reprimanded....maybe got the eye roll and a sigh. ;)

EDIT: Yes, I LOVE Rimsky-Korsakov's "Scheherzade!" I've been fortunate to perform that twice. Once playing principal horn and then another time playing third horn.

**Edited for my absent-mindedness.

[Faust]

Wow, do you play the horn?
Btw, are you talking about a symphonic Scheherazade? because, if I am not wrong it isn't from Prokofiev but from Rimsky-Korsakov... And that was some sort of Piano adaptation by Prokofiev. Okay I might be totally wrong with this.

[neonhorn22]

No, you're right. I meant the Rimsky-Korsakov version. I wasn't paying attention when I wrote the post out.

And yep...I play horn. I'm a freelance musician.

[violetsparks]

^ OMG EXCITING! :wacky: What groups/orchstras have you performed with before?

[Faust]

:sweatdrop: good to know I wasn't wrong... Is a great piano addaptation of Prokofiev, don't you think?

But that's great neonhorn22! I suppose you must be really good at playing. Where did you learn? Did you attend to a conservatoire?

Btw, I play the violin but not with the aim of being a musician. I like to think it sort of helps me with the anxiety and stress so I do it in my free time. It's good.

[Faust]

Btw, I know I posted this before (in the other thread) but still I want to post it. It's one of Chopin Études and I think it's mesmerizing, specially when you're alone in a certain mood. Meh, I really like it.

YouTube- freddy kempf - chopin, etude op. 10 no. 6

[neonhorn22]

To violetsparks - I've played in many groups! Pretty much all local to where I am (Arkansas). I played with the North Arkansas Symphony for a spell, now I play with the Arkansas Philharmonic. I also ocassionally play with the Fort Smith Symphony. And then I also play with a brass quintet that does mostly jazz, funk, and popular stuff. I play horn and sing. And then I play tenor horn with the Ozark Mountain British Brass Band here in the area. And I teach horn lessons on the side! It's a great life I have.....doing what I love! I think the highlight of my career thus far would be when my collegiate wind symphony got to play at Carnegie Hall back in 2000.

To Faust - Nope...no conservatory for me. I wouldn't have been able to afford it even if I got accepted. I was fortunate enough that my high school band was VERY good! And I had a great horn teacher. I eventually wound up attending the University of Arkansas and graduated in 2002 with my degree in music education. But, I don't really use my degree. I perform more than I teach.

[violetsparks]

Wow. That sounds like a lot of fun! :)

[Faust]

A very beautiful voice actually. :stunned:

YouTube- Philippe Jaroussky - Vivaldi aria

[watsername182]

Does this count as classical?

YouTube- Moulin Rouge Soundtrack #11 Bolero

Either way, I think it's a beautiful piece of music.
An amazing way to end an amazing film. :)

[Tnspieler1012]

bolero? of course.

[Faust]

Did somebody mention the word ubiquitous a few pages back in this thread?

YouTube- Beethoven - Fur elise

I really like this version.

[Gitta Rensolo]

I hate Für Elise.....everyone who comes to our shop and starts playing the piano plays this song....we should make signs saying you aren't allowed to play it:wacky:

[ricardo]

I love it... but people play it waaay too much.
Btw I bought an album of baroque adagios today. As it said on the cover Sublime Music <3

[bear]

buuuuuuuuuump.

im listening to the winter pieces in vivaldi's four seasons at full volume right now.
..is it bad to see the windows in your house shaking? :uhoh:

[chuck kottke]

:lol:It's OK, as long as the neighbor's are either def or like Vivaldi too!:laugh3:

(I actually like the four seasons - it's been a while since I've listened..)

[Aprophet]

YouTube- The Impossible Duet: Handel-Halvorsen Passacaglia for Cello and Violin

[howyousawtheworld]

Edward Elgar... LIVE!

YouTube- Elgar conducting Pomp and Circumstance March no.1

[violetsparks]

^ Nice. :)

[star101]

omg i luv classical music its nice to know that im not the only kid that likes classical music :lol:

[Boreas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrML6s1wNHk
do you consider this classic? I like this... no, I love this. It kinda reminds me of Politik

[Faust]

^ I think it's a composition of the modern period... but yes, it could count as "classic" in the mood of this thread me thinks. I also like it!

...


YouTube- Erik Satie - Gnossiennes No.1

[Heey Yaaa!]

I hate Für Elise.....everyone who comes to our shop and starts playing the piano plays this song....we should make signs saying you aren't allowed to play it:wacky:

I could not agree more.

[Heey Yaaa!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwU

[Tnspieler1012]

I hate Für Elise.....everyone who comes to our shop and starts playing the piano plays this song....we should make signs saying you aren't allowed to play it:wacky:
How about, you aren't allowed to play it unless you play the entire song, bridge and all, instead of just the main riff.