Avril Lavigne

[Hicksy]

OK, I realise I may get flamed for this but im going to hold my ground

You guys know I am a Radiohead and Coldplay fanatic but I REALLY like her!!! not just in the obvious sense but her music is VERY good and she has a big part in writing the music too which gives her credibility. Her lyrics are very strong and its more than just pop music - its very tuneful

If any of you have an open mind go find her album Let Go and give it a few listens because its excellent and her 4 b-sides are also extremely good

if any-one wants to have a pop at me for admitting this then bite me :D

[Sternly]

I hate pop music but she called my attetion so I bought her cd and it was OK, I wasn't expecting somenthing very good but it was OK. Then I saw her live and It was horrible....... she sux, her voice is totally different to the cd' voice, besides she get tired very easily, she coudn't run, jump etc... (I think) because she's new on the bussines.

[Hicksy]

i agree that she was not gr8 live - i saw her at the astoria in London and i thought she was poor - but then shes only young so if she can keep with it i think she has got massive potential - alanis morissetts going the distance! :D

[Sternly]

I agree, she have, potencial but she needs a more time. I somentimes don't like her actitude like " I don't care what ppl think of me and what I do" but I think that makes her different to all the pop starts, that call themself singers when they can not write or sing somenthing properly.

[Guy'sChick]

well i think shes cool and i do like her songs so far

[Hicksy]

you just get better and better :D

marry me! :-D

[Katharina]

I have her album as well and really like it! As for her attitude I think it's kinda cute she always tries to be such a cool rock chick... 8) So compared to all those other young female pop icons she is definitely my fave one! :-D
*edits* I do like Michelle Branch and Vanessa Carlton, too...

[weedy_gonzalez]

i like avril too i mean her songs. i mean the 2 songs i`ve heard cuz i don`t have her album.

[::Hayley::]

i think Avril is great...i agree about not being so great live..give her time tho :D

[Guy'sChick]

you just get better and better :D

marry me! :-D


lol ok meet me tomorrow in vegas! :lol: :D ;) http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/liebe/liebe087.gif

[sarah**]

OK, I realise I may get flamed for this but im going to hold my ground

You guys know I am a Radiohead and Coldplay fanatic but I REALLY like her!!! not just in the obvious sense but her music is VERY good and she has a big part in writing the music too which gives her credibility. Her lyrics are very strong and its more than just pop music - its very tuneful

If any of you have an open mind go find her album Let Go and give it a few listens because its excellent and her 4 b-sides are also extremely good

if any-one wants to have a pop at me for admitting this then bite me :D

*bites Simon*

Ok, she has some talent I do not disagree with that my main issue with her is she is POP. There is nothing wrong with pop music, I just don't have respect for her because she is trying to come across as a PUNK artist. She is the polar opposite for what punk stands for. She is not punk she is pop and the day she comes out and says I AM POP I will have more respect for her, until then I do not. I like Britney Spears more than her because at least Britney does not pretend that she isn't pop music. She always says that she is. Avril on the other hand says she is punk. And Avril is just as much as a manufactured product as Britney, Christina, Kylie whatever. Her songs are not bad at all, just what she stands for I do not agree with.

AND SHE CAN'T PRONOUNCE DAVID BOWIE'S NAME. IT WAS TELEVISED ON TV.

[Hicksy]

she is pop punk

oh and owww that hurt :sad:

[sarah**]

My teeth are sharp :D

[';']

i hate pop punk

haha i put pop pink first and just noticed it... :lol:

*stays away from sarah*

[Sternly]

ah.... c'mon what's that thing about pop punk?......

Avril is a pop singer or a punk singer .. while she prentends to be a punk singer, but she's not......

You can't say pop /punk...... now you will say u2 is pop /rock,
I ron Maiden is pop/ D. Metal, Coldplay is pop/rock and so on..........

I mean you can call them pop from the word popular but not from the music style "POP" from the 80' 90' from all the PopArt, PopStyle and PopMusic ........ Define Pop as a music style or as somenthing popular .....

[';']

well whatever she sings or does....pop...punk..whatever, i dont like it :D
hehe

avril is pop

the reason i said pop punk is like you said she tries to be punk and she does pop....thus, pop punk

and anyways its not like i put them together....i typed them as two different words ;)

[shangrila]

I think most of us R being too harsh on Avril. I think she's talented and some of her songs are quite heavy on the guitar. I'll admit it I like her music and I have her CD :o

[';']

you think some of her songs are quite heavy on guitar....*bursts out laughing*

sorry i wont post here...i'm just keeping up on replies or untill sarah comes back. :roll:

[sarah**]

i hate pop punk

haha i put pop pink first and just noticed it... :lol:

*stays away from sarah*

I AM NOT SCARY!!!!! :x

[sarah**]

you think some of her songs are quite heavy on guitar....*bursts out laughing*

sorry i wont post here...i'm just keeping up on replies or untill sarah comes back. :roll:

I don't know if I am supposed to take this in a good way or a bad way. But I think good way. :-o

Either way, Avril is easy listening and not Punk in the least. Blink 182, Simple Plan etc. are more punk then her. Come on, a SK8R BOI who fell in love with a Ballet dancer???!!!!

[';']

i call none of those punk, but yeah they are a lot more closer to it than she is :roll: :lol:

[dave's girl]

OK, I realise I may get flamed for this but im going to hold my ground

You guys know I am a Radiohead and Coldplay fanatic but I REALLY like her!!! not just in the obvious sense but her music is VERY good and she has a big part in writing the music too which gives her credibility. Her lyrics are very strong and its more than just pop music - its very tuneful

If any of you have an open mind go find her album Let Go and give it a few listens because its excellent and her 4 b-sides are also extremely good

if any-one wants to have a pop at me for admitting this then bite me :D

*bites Simon*

Ok, she has some talent I do not disagree with that my main issue with her is she is POP. There is nothing wrong with pop music, I just don't have respect for her because she is trying to come across as a PUNK artist. She is the polar opposite for what punk stands for. She is not punk she is pop and the day she comes out and says I AM POP I will have more respect for her, until then I do not. I like Britney Spears more than her because at least Britney does not pretend that she isn't pop music. She always says that she is. Avril on the other hand says she is punk. And Avril is just as much as a manufactured product as Britney, Christina, Kylie whatever. Her songs are not bad at all, just what she stands for I do not agree with.

AND SHE CAN'T PRONOUNCE DAVID BOWIE'S NAME. IT WAS TELEVISED ON TV.

I agree with what Sarah said - she's pretty much voiced my opinion. she strikes me as being as manufactured as artists such as Britney, but much less honest about it, which irritates me.

[';']

haha and you've said all that i wanted to say

i was just afraid to call her another britney because that's exactly how i feel. :D

[sarah**]

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11111,00.html

Check this out :D

[';']

who me an avril lover :D :P

[';']

she looks nasty in that picture :o :?

[Guy'sChick]

she looks nasty in that picture :o :?

she looks a bit fat to

[';']

and greasy :D

lmao

:lol: :P

[Katharina]

Fat?? Nasty? Greasy? You guys are really tolerant... :shock:

[::Hayley::]

she looks a bit dodgy tho... :? *im not a mean person* http://jeeptalk.org/crack/smilies/contrib/blackeye/Lsmile.gif

[';']

Fat?? Nasty? Greasy? You guys are really tolerant... :shock: :lol:

a moment without makeup

[::Hayley::]

some people just aren't photogenic :o :D

[Hicksy]

i think she looks normal :shrug:

she is still pretty tho :)

[Guy'sChick]

yeah but that was just a bad picture! :D

[Guy'sChick]

nah shes nothing like that bitch at all! i respect avril and i sure dont respect britney!! blearghh!!

[weedy_gonzalez]

blearghh!!

buahahahahaha

[Guy'sChick]

lol im sorry its just that i realy hate britney spears!!one if my mates said that i looked a little like her!! :shock: well trust me i dont!!

[Guy'sChick]

*sigh* :sad:

[weedy_gonzalez]

holly cow. u need yer justin now! j/k

[Guy'sChick]

well i dont mind seeing justin! he fine looking lad :D

[micha]

ewwwwwwww!
I really really really hate avril, and if i saw her on the street i'd kick her ass! well, not really, but i'd want to...

[sarah**]

Here is a long article from Monday's National Post (Canadian newspaper) and she admits that she isn't punk and they mention Coldplay in the article which bugged me a lot.
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Just back off a little!
Eighteen-year-old Avril Lavigne is starting to show the strain of life as a pop star - the endless promotion, the touring, the critics. Maybe, you know, everyone could ...

Aaron Wherry
National Post


CREDIT: Jim Cooper, The Associated Press

Critics and fans alike should remember that Avril Lavigne is still just a teenager.


On the phone from Kansas City, for a moment, Avril Lavigne sounds like she's been kidnapped. "Like, today was supposed to be my day off," she whispers, conceivably so the ever-present publicist in the room won't hear her uttering such subversive sentiments. "I was told I had a day off and then I found out I had a whole lot of phoners to do."

Maybe she just wishes she'd been kidnapped. Snatched away from all of this and held in seclusion back in Napanee, Ont., where all the minders, media types and fans couldn't find her.

The crush of superstardom -- the accolades and awards -- is one thing. But with it comes both scrutiny and, inevitably, the backlash.

Even more so in Canada, we seem to relish eating our own, especially when they leave our tundra for warmer, more bountiful terrain. Make it big in the United States and we'll love you for the first six months, then spend the next six tearing at your smallest of wounds.

So while she's still answering questions about her Grammy nominations, critics old enough to be her parents are doing their very best to deconstruct our latest diva. They're interviewing other teens to investigate the anti-Avril backlash among young girls. One Ottawa critic wasted a thousand words assailing Avril's education, attire, attitude, music and grasp of the English language.

Meanwhile, her actual parents are talking to national magazines, discussing how sensitive a child she was and how lil' Avril used to write them love notes.

"I don't really like that. I think that's weird when people start interviewing my family. I know how some journalists are and that they can twist your words around and make it sound like you said something you didn't and I just think you've got to be careful. And I don't want to see anything happen to them," she says. "I kind of want my family to stay out of it in a weird way."

She probably does bring some of this upon herself. There have been several foot-in-mouth moments, including a butchering of David Bowie's name (which was subsequently dispatched as a special item on the same wire services that normally keep us updated about the latest weapons inspection news from Iraq).

And her attitude, at times, does stink. When she first spoke to the National Post last June, she was dropping F-bombs with Noel Gallagher-like proficiency. And she certainly isn't shy about expressing her displeasure with the media and the labels bestowed upon her.

"I'm the type of person who just likes to speak my mind and doesn't take crap from people. Ever since the beginning they saw that and saw how I was different from all the cute little girls so they just went ahead and called me punk, which was the wrong word to describe it," she says. "Which messed a lot of things up and got all the real punks out there to hate me. I've never called myself punk. I don't sit there and call myself punk because I'm not."

This is not a call for sympathy or a woe-is-Avril diatribe. Let us remember that we are speaking of a girl who is living out her dreams of rock stardom -- and what lucrative dreams they are, her worth already measured in the multi-millions.

"She'll be hanging out with realtors. Hopefully she'll be spending a lot of time with investment people who can guide her properly," says Denise Donlon, who as president of Sony Music Canada and former head honcho at MuchMusic has seen her fair share of young starlets. "She's got a great management team around her. She's got a great label around her. I think she needs to ensure that she is properly guided financially, so that her next decisions can be purely musical decisions and not necessarily monetary decisions."

For her part, Avril is none too fond of the monetary stuff, expressing a certain lack of fondness for those in the music business who deal with such matters.

"I think a large percentage of them are slimey. I mean, there's this business side, and I hate the business side," she says.

She could also do without the hectic schedule of a superstar.

"Well, I'm pretty much in it 24/7. The only time I'm not is when I can put my head down on my pillow and go to sleep. Pretty much that's all I do is this, it's my job," she laments. "I never have time off. But that's to be expected with everything that's going on, I guess."

And she doesn't even want to think about a second album -- and the monstrous expectations that will surround her sophomore effort.

"I'll focus on that when the time comes -- I'll just go do my thing, whatever I feel will just come out. I don't want to think about it. Lately, everyone keeps asking me about it, and I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to think about it right now," she says.

Several months ago, Britain's latest band of the moment, Coldplay, swept through Toronto. By the end of their trip they looked and sounded much like Avril does now: exhausted, overwhelmed and lacking the time and distance to make sense of it all. But the boys in Coldplay are all in their early twenties and, with four of them, there is a built-in support system.

Avril is both younger and basically alone on this journey -- surrounded by assistants and advisors but, at the end of the day, with only her name on the marquee and only her to blame if it all unravels.

And where that Ottawa critic saw an ignorant, clueless poseur doing her best to act like a brat, maybe we should see Avril Lavigne for what she really is: a teenager.

All the moodiness and crankiness and complaints. All the one-word answers that make you feel like a dad asking your daughter how her day at school went. It doesn't take a doctor to diagnose this girl as a typical teenager. Except that this teenager lives her every growing pain in the public eye, her every clumsy misstep broadcast to millions.

"We spend so much time working on the creative level and then marketing and imaging that we don't necessarily spend a lot of time on grounding and the type of things that make us all well-rounded as human beings," Donlon says.

Few of us look back on our teenage years proudly. Fewer still would have wanted those formative years placed under such scrutiny.

While her status now makes her fair game for some amount of criticism, and investigation, let's not forget that the target is an 18-year-old girl from smalltown Ontario who probably weighs 90 pounds soaking wet with football gear on and who is going through a fair amount of emotional strife independent of periodic beatings from critics apparently in need of an easy target.

And she is learning her lessons and realizing her blessings. Amid all the complaints come a fair amount of giggles and at least one moment of clarity: "I never turn down anything. I try not to complain about it. And I shouldn't be complaining about it because I'm very lucky to be in the situation I'm in right now."

Now all she needs is a day off.

[Katharina]

Thanks for posting that, hun! :-D

[';']

all i read was that little part about coldplay....hehe
i ended up dissapointed because i thought she was going to say more :roll:

[Hicksy]

well I still like Avril :P

[weedy_gonzalez]

me likes her too and she didn`t say anything about coldplay the author of the article did (i think).

[';']

i dont think she talked at all

i think it was just a journalist talking :shrug:

[Hicksy]

*hugs Avril* :D

[sarah**]

me likes her too and she didn`t say anything about coldplay the author of the article did (i think).

Avril didn't say anything about Coldplay, the journalist did.

[';']

that's what i said :shrug:

[weedy_gonzalez]

that`s what she said yeah.

[Guy'sChick]

*hugs Avril* :D
aawww :D *joins in* hehe

[weedy_gonzalez]

Hicksy wrote:
*hugs Avril*

aawww *joins in* hehe

me too! such a huge hug muahaha

[Guy'sChick]

lol!! :D

[weedy_gonzalez]

i`ll squeeze ya all

[Hicksy]

:shock:

[shangrila]

ewwwwwwww!
I really really really hate avril, and if i saw her on the street i'd kick her ass! well, not really, but i'd want to...

Why do you hate her girl? put a little love in your heart woman. :P j/k

[weedy_gonzalez]

i hate it when the journalists and shit like that make a punk of avril. it`s stoopid. have they ever seen a punk? she`s just a poor lass.i don`t think she even listens to punk music. i`ve got a few friends who are punks and they don`t even look like ones; they just listen to punk music. they`re not real punks. oh we`ve got loads of the real ones too in poland. unfortunately i didn`t happen to know one. but there`s hundreds of them especially in wroclaw (it`s a city). i still like avril :)

[sarah**]

i hate it when the journalists and shit like that make a punk of avril. it`s stoopid. have they ever seen a punk? she`s just a poor lass.i don`t think she even listens to punk music. i`ve got a few friends who are punks and they don`t even look like ones; they just listen to punk music. they`re not real punks. oh we`ve got loads of the real ones too in poland. unfortunately i didn`t happen to know one. but there`s hundreds of them especially in wroclaw (it`s a city). i still like avril :)

She does listen to punk music, I have a friend who is very into the punk scene in Toronto and has seen Avril at a bunch of punk shows.

[busybeeburns]

And Coldplay none cos Linkin Park got best Rock Act and Best Video
:roll:


10 Favourite Music Artist Awards from Asia:
Favourite Artist Mainland China: Yu Quan
Favourite Artist Hong Kong: Sammi Cheng
Favourite Artist India: A.R. Rahman
Favourite Artist Indonesia: Cokelat
Favourite Artist Korea: j.t.L
Favourite Artist Malaysia: Siti Nurhaliza
Favourite Artist Philippines: Regine Velasquez
Favourite Artist Singapore: Stefanie Sun
Favourite Artist Taiwan: Jay Chou
Favourite Artist Thailand: D2B

International Music Awards:
Favourite Male Artist: Robbie Williams
Favourite Female Artist: Avril Lavigne
Favourite Pop Act: Blue
Favourite Rock Act: Linkin Park
Favourite Video: Linkin Park - "Pts of Authority (Remix)"
Favourite Breakthrough Artist: Avril Lavigne

The Asian Film Award: Devdas (Director: Sanjay Leela Bhansali)

The Style Award: Avril Lavigne

The Inspiration Award: F4

:-x

[weedy_gonzalez]

crap!

[busybeeburns]

I couldn't have put it better myself!

[weedy_gonzalez]

She does listen to punk music, I have a friend who is very into the punk scene in Toronto and has seen Avril at a bunch of punk shows.

i didn`t know that! thx for enlightening me!

[Guy'sChick]

ewwwwwwww!
I really really really hate avril, and if i saw her on the street i'd kick her ass! well, not really, but i'd want to...

Why do you hate her girl? put a little love in your heart woman. :P j/k

hehe!! yeah i dont see why ppl would hate her! but if you would say i hate britney spears i would understand why hehe

[Guy'sChick]

i honestly thought they would win an award!! :(

[';']

i thought they were alright in asia?

guess not. :-x :(

[weedy_gonzalez]

they fooking deserve an award!! it`s not fair!!!!!

[Guy'sChick]

i thought they were alright in asia?

guess not. :-x :(

yeah i thought they were 2 :shrug:

[busybeeburns]

Its UK and US that count anyways, and they know it ;)

[';']

Its UK and US that count anyways, and they know it ;)they need to know their biggest fans are in those two places :D

[Hicksy]

well done Avril, unlucky Coldplay :sad:

[Guy'sChick]

Its UK and US that count anyways, and they know it ;)they need to know their biggest fans are in those two places :D


and holland not to forget they are pretty big over there trust me i know!!

[::Hayley::]

i heard avril's new song 2nite..and while watching the video i think i fell asleep with my eyes open :?
good song...great voice, but very different style from sk8er boi/complicated :shrug:
i still like her tho

[Sweet One]

OK, I realise I may get flamed for this but im going to hold my ground

You guys know I am a Radiohead and Coldplay fanatic but I REALLY like her!!! not just in the obvious sense but her music is VERY good and she has a big part in writing the music too which gives her credibility. Her lyrics are very strong and its more than just pop music - its very tuneful

If any of you have an open mind go find her album Let Go and give it a few listens because its excellent and her 4 b-sides are also extremely good

if any-one wants to have a pop at me for admitting this then bite me :D

Hey Simon...what are her 4 b-sides called??? I like her song "Tomorrow"... :D

[Katharina]

i heard avril's new song 2nite..and while watching the video i think i fell asleep with my eyes open :?
good song...great voice, but very different style from sk8er boi/complicated :shrug:
i still like her thoI love that one... It's called "I'm With You". Really beautiful... :)

[::Hayley::]

yeah its good. she looks veerrryyy different for some reason in this video...
maybe its coz shes not bouncing about so much :D

[fifi]

yeah its good. she looks veerrryyy different for some reason in this video...
maybe its coz shes not bouncing about so much :D
yeah and she looks like she's about to cry :sad: the song is good but i think she should have released loosing grip!!! :) thats a good song always played by my bro so iv learned to love it!! :-D

[Guy'sChick]

i heard avril's new song 2nite..and while watching the video i think i fell asleep with my eyes open :?
good song...great voice, but very different style from sk8er boi/complicated :shrug:
i still like her tho

yeah i like her new song! and yeah its diffrent to the other 2 songs but its still good i think :D

[::Hayley::]

i sw this song sooo many times on TV today...its soooo growing on me (not literally :o ) i LOVe it!!

[Guy'sChick]

yeah i dont see why ppl hate her :shrug:

[::Hayley::]

yeah i dont see why ppl hate her :shrug:
why who hates her http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/traurig/traurig023.gif

[Guy'sChick]

its in one of those threads here dunno ill have to find it

[bojana]

'he's just a boy, and i'm just a girl, can i make it ay more obvious....she did ballet, what more can i say'...
these lyrics really annoy me

[::Hayley::]

'he's just a boy, and i'm just a girl, can i make it ay more obvious....she did ballet, what more can i say'...
these lyrics really annoy me

:o

:shrug:

[Hicksy]

still love her :D

[Guy'sChick]

i love im with you its great!!! the clip is cool too :D

[::Hayley::]

her new song is very approprite to my current situation.... :roll:

" Isn't anyone tryin to find me?
Won't somebody come take me home
It's a damn cold night
Trying to figure out this life
Wont you take me by the hand
Take me somewhere new
I don't know who you are
But I... I'm with you
I'm with you

I'm looking for a place
Searching for a face
Is anybody here I know
'Cause nothing's going right
And everythigns a mess
And no one likes to be alone

Take me by the hand
Take me somewhere new
I don't know who you are
But I... I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you..."



:D :D :D

[Sweet One]

Everyone should listen to her song "Tomorrow"...it's slow with guitar...i didn't even know it was her when i first heard it... :-D

[';']

i still dont like her :D

[Sweet One]

I don't mind Avril..maybe it's the fact that she's Canadian that's making me support her..

Go Canadians!!! :D

[';']

oh yeah go canadians...i support you, but not her...hehe :D ;)

[Sweet One]

oh yeah go canadians...i support you, but not her...hehe :D ;)

Thanks for the support Ginger dear!! :D

[';']

oh yes your welcome, any time any time ;)

[Hicksy]

IM TELLING YOU ALL - SHE IS BRILLIANT

I have been harping on about how good her album is for months and all anyone ever wants to talk about is her image and her age

Who gives a f*ck if she wears ties and swears too much - she rocks!

Doesn't anyone listen to music for the music anymore? :sad:

[';']

i dont care what she wears
i still dont like her music

[Hicksy]

fair play

but your wrong :shrug: :P

or i may be... time will tell :D

*huggles Ginger*

[';']

how can i be wrong for not liking her. ha
i'd think the same of you then
someone shoot me if i ever say i do like her. :D

ok i wont say no more. she's had enough of my hate. well its not even hate...more like a lack of interest towards her music. yes, thats it. i'll just stay silent and away from this thread. 8)

yay i love huggles in the morning i wouldnt expect it especially since i was being mean to someones music you like. thanks
:D

[Hicksy]

i wouldn't ever fall out with a friend over music

its all just fridgebuzz anyway :D

*more huggles*

[';']

aww :D
yay that's nice

[Guy'sChick]

Everyone should listen to her song "Tomorrow"...it's slow with guitar...i didn't even know it was her when i first heard it... :-D

yeah ive heard that one too*my boyfriend played it for me* i love it

[Hicksy]

for anyone who is still listening to her - hunt around for her b-sides because they are very good :D

[Paranoid_Scientist]

Well my opinion she is really really HOT :P As 4 her music lyric wise, ummm i guess there not that bad. It's more for teenagers though. Heartbreaks,Rough Times, etc.... Once reason i really don't lik her is she said the name "David Bowie" Wrong at one of the accademy awards. OMG how can you say a Guitar God's name wrong. That just got on my nerves. :-x . But hey she's young and she doesn't really anything better then what she does. Which is playin in a Pop-Punk music & sing in a band. Pop -Punk ? ehhh, not my fav. But if i do listen i don't listen 2 it, i surely don't listen 2 her. :twisted:

[Sweet One]

Everyone should listen to her song "Tomorrow"...it's slow with guitar...i didn't even know it was her when i first heard it... :-D

yeah ive heard that one too*my boyfriend played it for me* i love it

awwww....how sweet Angie... :)

[CountingDemons]

im sorry but i hate her :shrug:

[::Hayley::]

oops

ah well each to their own :D

[Guy'sChick]

yeah exactly !! well said!!

[CountingDemons]

oops

ah well each to their own :D
very true :)

[Guy'sChick]

i love her song im with you

[::Hayley::]

oops

ah well each to their own :D
very true :)


:D

[Hicksy]

:roll: ;) :) :-D :D

[cold_kitty]

i think avril has some good songs, but i don't think she is as amazing as everyone think she is. i'm going to see her in april.....for lack of a better concert! i guess i'll be moshing with the best of them! if you excuse me i've got to go buy a tie!

[Sweet One]

I hate how if you wear a tie, it's known as the "Avril style"..I hate that... :?

[cold_kitty]

i know! it's like now even being having an individual style can be marketed! has the world gone mad?! lol

[Sweet One]

Yes it has! :D

"We live in a psychotic world...yeah we do, yeah we do" :lol:

[MrsColdplay4Eva]

Theres prob a post like this already. What does every1 think of avril. I thought she was gr8 at the beginnin but now, even tho i hav her alb, she seems like shes tryin to hard to be somethin shes not. i like her music but not the way she comes across personally. and SHE NEVER SMILES!!!!
Oh, AND she cant sing live.....

[';']

have you seen her live?

i think she's just trying too hard, and looking really good at doing it.

anyways i dont like her

[cold_kitty]

i get to see "the avril" in the flesh in a month tomorrow! i've seen some of her live performances already, she doesn't seem all that fantastic.

i like her style and what she's all about, but i find her as unentertaining as i find britney spears. the two are just 2 deminsional characters fueled by record companies!

[bozo]

I'm fascinated by that girl for some reason. I'm not a big fan of her music but I guess I just like her style.

[Chrissy]

she thinks she's soooo different, but i think she's excactly like the others: fake :shrug:

[Sweet One]

YAY CHRISSY!!! :D

[unbornchikkenvoices]

im her biggest fan really really

[mburn]

i think she cant sing and as you said is trying to be somthing she is not

[Matty'sgirl]

i also think that she is trying to be something she is not, and that her music does not fit the punk image that she is trying to pull off i'am with u isn't punk at all she just trys to make it seem like it is think.

[Matty'sgirl]

so every one who hears what i'am saying thank you all

[Sweet One]

She can't sing live..she sounded dreadful at the Grammys...that's why she didn't win... :roll:

[Matty'sgirl]

preach it she really shouldn't be getting grammy's her first year anyways work hard for a few years and but ur true emotoins into ur songs than maybe we will see if she does actally deserve a grammy or she still probaly will be just as bad

[Hicksy]

she can't sing live but then at least she does sing with no backing track etc...

credit due but she does need to grow a bit before her voice will be suitable for live gigs me thinks

[cold_kitty]

yeah, i agree with hicksy. at least she isn't lypsyncing which i would respect even less (britney!!) so yeah, giver her props where their due

[Kenna]

Avril sucks. And I feel bad for the rest of her "band" who get no publicity at all. The "band name" is HER name, and SHE is on the covers. Thats some bull. I wouldn't stand for that. Shes lame as hell and her music is god-awful. :x

[Sweet One]

I hate the fact that they're called "Avril's boys"....that must feel terrible..hehehe...that's why one of them (the cute bass player) left.. :shrug:

[Kenna]

yea I know...its really pathedic. I hope she starts to go down...its sad that a lot of people like her. Her music is soo bad!

[Sweet One]

:shrug: She has SOME good songs.... :shrug:

[Kenna]

Nope...but thats your opinion, I respect that. I just don't think shes a good singer. And that ska8ter boy, however the hell you spell that, that song is just terrible. Its like death.

[Sweet One]

YES!! I totally agree with you on that.....Skater Boy ( i won't even attempt to spell it cleverly) is terrible!! I hate that song with a passion!!! :x

[psychedelic_clocks]

singing skater boy is fun! i like singing along with it..but thats me
I dont like her all that much. She's fake...but she has to keep up with her "image" as a skater person or punk girl...its all bullshit..but thats what happens when you go "pop" and the media gets you...FAKE!



HER HAIR IS ALWAYS IN HER FREAKING FACE!!!!!

[shangrila]

She can't sing live..she sounded dreadful at the Grammys...that's why she didn't win... :roll:

I think she was nerveous, I saw an MTV live conceert of her and she sounded okay, I also heard her sing live on the radio and she sounded good.

[shangrila]

YES!! I totally agree with you on that.....Skater Boy ( i won't even attempt to spell it cleverly) is terrible!! I hate that song with a passion!!! :x


Make up your mind, first you say she has some good songs and then you say she doesn't :-o I don't like skater boy, but I do like I'm with you :)

[Chrissy]

YAY CHRISSY!!! :D
love being right :D

[Kenna]

skater boy is the worst song of all...he was a skater boy, I said see you later boy. ummm who rhymes a word with the SAME word?!!? I'll tell you who...Avril. And she yoodles. haha but thats funny to mock. Whatever, she can do her "thing" and I agree, DO SOMETHING WITH HER HAIR!!!!

[unbornchikkenvoices]

i fu*k her brains out bet she has a nice pu*sy oh id love some of that-now i must go to the toilet and jerk off to pictures of avril+chris

you say you fell sorry for avrils band well its just like chris and coldplay

[busybeeburns]

he's back alright!

[Sweet One]

:lol:

[composerzane]

Jesus. When you can write better hooks than her, then by all means insult her. She isn't my style, but she's OBVIOUSLY one of the most talented songwriters in pop music right now. That's right, she writes her own songs. More than I can say for a lot of other pop stars. It seems like this board is all about agreeing with the thread no matter what the topic. You hate, yet you say you haven't heard. You don't have to like her music to appreciate that she understands her craft and such. Fan off.

[Evori]

she's great, i like her! :)

[Hicksy]

i like her too

put the llamas back in their pen :D

[Sweet One]

:lol:

[the bik]

i do not like her at all.

[DONTPANICgirl]

avril lavigne is crap! crap music/shes trying to be bad, ok you dont TRY to be bad thats stupid/and gross its just bad music, come on coldplay fans you can do better than that!

[sk8er_boi]

I LOVE AVRIL!!!!

i saw her in cologne at march, 10th 2003!!!!! it was great!!! :lol:

[Sweet One]

I must admit, that "Losing Grip" song (I just saw the video on Much Music) is getting better and better the more i listen to it.. :shrug: :D

[Hicksy]

well i love her lots

*hugs Avril* :D

[Sweet One]

haha...she likes to be hugged Simon.. :-D

[Mathieu]

I like her :)
OK, I realise I may get flamed for this but im going to hold my ground

You guys know I am a Radiohead and Coldplay fanatic but I REALLY like her!!! not just in the obvious sense but her music is VERY good and she has a big part in writing the music too which gives her credibility. Her lyrics are very strong and its more than just pop music - its very tuneful

If any of you have an open mind go find her album Let Go and give it a few listens because its excellent and her 4 b-sides are also extremely good

if any-one wants to have a pop at me for admitting this then bite me :D

[cold_kitty]

i see avril this sunday. oh joy! i can't wait to mosh with all the 6 year olds going. :roll:

still, it should be fun. :-D

[Sweet One]

You're going to the avril concert?? GET OUT!! That's cool! 8)

[Hicksy]

YAY! Have a good time teenybopping

no seriously it should be fun :D

[cold_kitty]

thanks hicksy! :) i hope it will be! haha teenybopping ::hiusses::

and laura i wish i could take you with me! :( we could body surf together! lol

[cailiosa]

I must admit, that "Losing Grip" song (I just saw the video on Much Music) is getting better and better the more i listen to it.. :shrug: :D

I really don't like her that much...buuuut...I must admit that song is pretty good.

[Sweet One]

8)

[Sally_]

GO AVRIL!!! everyone I know practically hates her but i love her for how she speaks her mind and rocks out. i watched gonna meet a rock star and she was so down to earth and was just acting like a regular teenager. she's also canadian and i love to support my fellow canadians!!! i love her band!! They're hilarious!!
watch exposed on avril lavigne on much!

[schmarotzer]

When Avril's album was released I didn't give a shit to her. Then some weeks later i saw the complicated video and thought: "Oh man, that chick is so hot!" And that was the main problem... i were so attracted to Avril that i didn't pay attention to her songs. (you guys must admit, avril is a hot petite. :D ) But then i went to the cd store and bought her cd. I must say that i were really impressed. So many nice tracks... Her lyrics are very cool. I always laugh when i hear "things i'll never say": "If I could say what I want to say, I'd say I wanna blow you... away" :lol: :lol: :lol:
On sk8er boi she shows that she knows how to rock, on i'm with you and tomorrow she shows that she knows how to transmit her emotions... Ooooh, i DO love Avril Lavigne. *Gives a Big Hug to Avril* :D :D

[cold_kitty]

avril's pretty. i'll give her that. i saw her about a week ago. she's so small!

[Mailla]

at the beginning i didn't like avril's music, i though she was just a new pop icon with a huge marketing process for selling her disc. But i've been so hammered by her music, that finally i like it. But it's true that she sucks in live... Well she's young :shrug: not yet the alanis morissette's endurance! lol

[schmarotzer]

at the beginning i didn't like avril's music, i though she was just a new pop icon with a huge marketing process for selling her disc. But i've been so hammered by her music, that finally i like it. But it's true that she sucks in live... Well she's young not yet the alanis morissette's endurance! lol


you're right, avril sucks live... But at least she tries to sing her songs. (Not like "Bitchney" spears, that uses playback.) Avril gives her best on stage, and I admire that. I'm sure that in 3 or 4 years avril will be a great live performer. She just needs some time.

[Kenna]

I think Avril and her music sucks...and I feel bad for the rest of her "band" that gets no publicity at all. Meanie. Shes a poser.

[schmarotzer]

avril's pretty. i'll give her that. i saw her about a week ago. she's so small!


Oh god, you saw her... that's MY dream. You know, what all the girls in this board feel for chris martin, I feel for avril. She's the sexiest girl in the world!!! :D

[schmarotzer]

I heard a lot of people talking about a new avril lavigne video: "knockin' on heaven's door." But i never saw it, and didn't hear anything about her making this video. Does anybody here know if this video exists, or it's just a rumour?

[Sweet One]

knockin on heaven's door?? i don't even know if that's one of her songs..her newest video here in canada is "Losing Grip"..it's pretty good..i guess :shrug:

[schmarotzer]

Yup, she performs that in the "warchild - hope" cd. it is a cover version of bob dylan's knockin' on heaven's door.

Our newest avril video here in Brazil is "i'm with you", but i downloaded the losing grip video on kazaa and it really is pretty cool.

[Sweet One]

Oh, i had no idea...anyways, the losing grip video is her latest here..i don't know if she did a video for that other song.. :shrug:

HI!! :D

[Reilly]

Yeah the war child video isnt much to see. At least its for a good cause.

[cold_kitty]

i don't think avril makes amazing videos. at least not videos i'd like to see a few times over. they are all just showcasing how "punk" she is.

[schmarotzer]

so, it appears that there DO is a video for avril's knockin' on heaven's door. I need to download it to complete my avril vidz collection.
Oh, and cold_kitty (sorry, i forgot your name :? ), i totally agree with you, but i think that avril's videos couldn't be different. I mean, do you imagine her on the scientist video, or radiohead's just? Of course not, that's not her style. I can only imagine avril on her teen-style clips, skating and destroying cars. But they're still good vidz, and avril's is so hot that i don't really mind what the video is about, as long as she appears in the video.

[fifi]

ah so she is gonna release losing grip? thats her only good song i think :-D but its nice that she did a song for hope ;)

[cold_kitty]

i like unwanted! i was hoping she'd release that one!

oh and schmarotzer the name is nadine. and don't worry! everyone forgets! :)

[psychedelic_clocks]

huh.....war child...avril? .....hmmm
anyways I thought that losing grip was her latest video....if you look at her wrist, the red white and blur wrist band dissappears! haha no not really. But when it shows her, she has it on, then she doesn't........yea..well thats all i have to say.

[schmarotzer]

i like unwanted! i was hoping she'd release that one!

oh and schmarotzer the name is nadine. and don't worry! everyone forgets!


Ok, it's Nadine. I won't forget your name anymore. I just have to remember that moulin rouge movie. :P By the way, you can call me Thomas.
Anyways, i like unwanted too. (Don't know why, but it kinda remembers me of a 007 song.) But i think that "things i'll never say" would be a better relaese.

[Sweet One]

I heard "Knockin' on Heaven's door" today..not bad.. :)

[schmarotzer]

I heard "Knockin' on Heaven's door" today..not bad..


Hey, that's nice Laura. I told you guys... It seems that avril is getting better and better. I don't like the original version of knockin' on heaven's door, but avril's cover is a damn good song.

[Sweet One]

Yeah, it's definitely grown on me Thomas.. :D

[cold_kitty]

we're all bonding over avril! :) how nice! :: passes out hot chocolate ::

[Sweet One]

yum...thanks..haha :D

got any cookies?

[Majson]

yeah i dont see why ppl hate her :shrug:

hmmm....ok...i'll keep it simple as i can

1. she claims to be what she isnt...punk rock/punk pop..og please...gimme a break. having listened to her album it's nothing more than pop ballards with the odd rockier influence thrown in.

2. she claims so many things, but they're mosty lies, like how she can skate, but in mtv's making the video the director asked her to and she said she's crap at it

3. she has proffesonal writers. She claims she writes the songs herself, indeed i think i recall hearing that she wrote some at 16, if so, then why would profesional writers be needed? I have no problem with people having help from writers, so long as they admit it. she likes to claim she writes them all herself, but she dont

4. she can't play the guitar, though she claims she can. Watched AOL sessions, acoustic set, sorry but any guitar songwriter/singer can play acousitc and sing at the same time, specially if you're doing it for a living, i know i can, and i'm still learning.

5. she cant sing, simple as...listen to her songs (try chop suey live) eeeeeeeeeew

6. Her lyrics are extremelly bad...Skater boi (the spelling is a pet hate also) i mean boy meets girl, girl dumps boy, boy becomes famous, boy meets avril, boy and avril happy..what? "he was a boy, she was a girl, can i make it any more obvious" my little sister can do better than that

7. her songs are annoying and eeergh

but this is all personal opinion, enjoy her

[Sweet One]

4. she can't play the guitar, though she claims she can. Watched AOL sessions, acoustic set, sorry but any guitar songwriter/singer can play acousitc and sing at the same time, specially if you're doing it for a living, i know i can, and i'm still learning.


I agree with this one. In an interview she said that she loves playing the guitar and writing music b/c it's her therapy, yet at every opportunity she has to play live with it, she's like, "no i'm crap"..i've seen her do that on a number of times just recently. :shrug:

[CityandColour]

i dont mind her, i dont know why everyone hates her, well supposely because shes a punk poser, so what, i hate pop punk so i dont really care. she has some ok songs

[Majson]

i just told you in my post why everyone hates her...pick one of those reasons or use all of them....i'm not saying you have to hate her, but she aint pop punk, so stop saying she is...aaargh...

read and learn, then go off and enjoy whatever you enjoy :)

[CityandColour]

you dumbass, i DIDNT say she was pop punk. i said she was a punk poser.

[Majson]

well all the same..you mentioned you dont like punk pop...so that implies something no ? erm

let me find a way outta this..hmm hmm

heey, no need to call me a dumbass ya freekin hobo ;)

*must not watch slackers again*

[Sweet One]

SLACKERS!!! :D

[CityandColour]

there is a difference between punk poser and a regular punk, idiot.

[Majson]

aaaaaaw, wheee...love you too....:)

yeah i know there's a real difference. I just mis-interpreted what you said...either way...avril sucks ass :)

[CityandColour]

no she doesnt, i like a few of her songs

[Majson]

and cos u like a few of her songs, it means she aint shite?

you can like a few of her songs, i think she's shite and you liking a few of her songs wont change that...

music is all about personal opinion, you have yours, i have mine

[CityandColour]

and you act like your opinion is the only one that matters you asshole

[Majson]

it is the only one that matters to me, should it not be? should i not listen to my own opinions?

There isn't much need to start throwing names around now is there? are you not possible of civil conversation?

[Hicksy]

if she manages to keep it together i think she will be one of the top 5 artists over the next 3-5 years so regardless of your opinion popularity speaks volumes so climb down off your high horse and at least admit she is successful rather than crass comments :|

[Majson]

if she manages to keep it together i think she will be one of the top 5 artists over the next 3-5 years so regardless of your opinion popularity speaks volumes so climb down off your high horse and at least admit she is successful rather than crass comments :|

LOL

i'm sorry, i shouldn't laugh but that is almost as funny as hearing a politican say he'll tell the truth.

Popularity has nothing to do with anything, certainly not talent.

I mean, Westlife are popular, boyzone used to be, take that, little pop duos, female singers who cant sing, write or play an instrument are popular because they are attractive. Popularity is to do with marketting.

Avril is marketed very well, of that i admit, but then she's marketed to kids, i mean she wins Nickelodeon awards for gawds sake, that's not punk, which she tries to claim to be.

There are many many acts out there who are damned talented who'll never be that popular, may never even have a record deal. Popularity has absolutly nothing to do talent.

I don't have to stop saying my opion simply because she's popular, it's all to do with expression and personal opinion and freedoms.

Do you like manchester united? Do you like Eminem? Do you like Star Trek, Star Wars?

They're popular, but it doesn't make them good, doesn't mean that no-one should think they're bad and be told to stuff their opinions.

I stated why i disliked her, i was willing to leave it at that, but instead i had name calling, ok so i mis-interpreted a post by someone, i tried to make an apology by joking but that's not enough. So i just sayid this is my opinion, and you have yours, i never tried to force my opinion on anyone, i tried to be fair and give a valid reason for disliking her, which is more that can be said for a lot of people, and i'm the one who's told to shut up,

an interesting look at human behaviour...

I would also have less to moan about, if she didn't claim to be what she isn't, that being a punk rock, hardcore, skater girl who writes all her own songs, plays guitar and can sing...

[staring elf]

:shrug:

[Hicksy]

do bod di di do do :)

[.::Char::.]

any avril fans here??? :D :D :D

[cf]

.. No .. :P

[MAFE]

No way in the fucking hell

[Merkaba82]

wow

[*andrea*]

eeeeewwwww :sick:

sorry I dislike her very much

[bonabon]

lol i actually like her first album. havent listened to it in ages tho...

[naty]

i don't like her, but i have the first and the second album.
the first record was better

[Miss-Clementine]

I dont like her but some of her songs arent bad.

[.::Char::.]

oh ok,i just wondered

[Hicksy]

I am a fan of her recorded material

Not so much her efforts at live material

That is all

Carry on :cool:

[.::Char::.]

kool!! i am just interested to find out :)