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ivet
28-08-2009, 12:24 AM
Today in English, our teacher asked us a very indepth question that could be simpler but depending on your personal way of thinking could also be difficult to choose.

So what what do you think and explain why you think this way...

Josh42
28-08-2009, 12:25 AM
wat

ivet
28-08-2009, 12:26 AM
I just put up the poll, you could've waited a sec.

Julie
28-08-2009, 12:28 AM
Intentionally torturing animals cos you meant to do it. And in the other it was an accident..

Josh42
28-08-2009, 12:29 AM
Yea what the hell, easy question.

ivet
28-08-2009, 12:33 AM
Well, that's what it seems like but it's not as simple as you think. The class was pretty divided... Some saying "fuck PETA, they're making a big deal out everything blah blah blah" "a person's life is more important than an animal..." ya know...

Josh42
28-08-2009, 12:36 AM
I'm not a huge supporter of PETA, but come on, if they're trying to stop animals from being tortured then good for them.

How often do people accidentally kill someone? Not much, and there's not much we can do to prevent it, aside from making cars safer and stuff. Torturing animals, on the other hand, can be stopped, and it's usually a sign of a mental disorder.

Darlene_Ihnfsa
28-08-2009, 12:38 AM
what you do intentionally for bad reasons is always worse than what could happen accidentally.

Julie
28-08-2009, 12:38 AM
Michael Vick lol

ivet
28-08-2009, 12:41 AM
This was all sparked when we were talking about M. Vick who's playing his first NFL game tonight alongside the Eagles after being in jail for two years for being involved in the torturing of animals and all that shit and on another NFL player D. Stallworth who was drunk driving in Miami and killed a man, he only got a few days and jail and blah blah blah...... im just wondering... i'm on the animals side...

Josh42
28-08-2009, 12:42 AM
DRUNK DRIVING ISN'T ACCIDENTAL. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING.

Josh42
28-08-2009, 12:43 AM
Drunk driving and killing a person is far worse than torturing animals, because you made a poor decision.

I fucking hate drunk drivers.

Julie
28-08-2009, 12:44 AM
Yeah I really dislike M. Vick. It sickens me over what he did, and I don't think he should be getting a second chance at all. Although I'm not much of a football fan so what am I to say..

MrsSeverusSnape
28-08-2009, 12:45 AM
Intentionally torturing animals.

Those ppl should DIE. accidently :rolleyes:

ivet
28-08-2009, 12:46 AM
Right, see this was all discussed...and the ever popular texting and driving... all that... it was pretty crazy... i though people were gonna start beating each other up.


:laugh3:

Josh42
28-08-2009, 12:47 AM
I love debates in school because I'm not afraid to get loud and curse and stuff but everybody else is.

ivet
28-08-2009, 12:50 AM
Mhm, all these guys were like saying a person's life is more important than an animals life..blah blah blah... PETA is dumb making a storm in a glass of water. They need to cool it...blah blah blah

This girl was getting super mad... and i also learned what "veal" is... :sick: i'm not a PETA follower either but we humans do a lot of messed up shit to animals all the time... :\

Josh42
28-08-2009, 12:54 AM
I voted the wrong way, since you didn't clarify. Drunk driving and killing someone is worse than torturing animals.

ivet
28-08-2009, 12:56 AM
Well I mean, it's not only that, it's overall...that was the question that was asked

Which is worse; intentionally torturing an animal or accidentally killing a person?

It doesn't zero into drunk driving, it's overall accidental deaths.

Josh42
28-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Yes but drunk driving isn't completely accidental, because you're making a poor decision which is putting other lives in danger.

Petit Prince
28-08-2009, 01:09 AM
You might agree that it's awful to torture animals but a lot of you will have killed animals on purpose. Slugs, spiders, flies and moths are all animals you know...

Prospekt.
28-08-2009, 01:34 AM
Everything is about intention, IMO.

That's the thing that irks me most about suspensions in sports, particularly hockey. Someone goes and does something dangerous as fuck... but no one gets hurt... short suspension.

Someone else does something that is still not acceptable... but not nearly as bad. But some stroke of bad luck, the injury is worse... long ass suspension.

That makes no f'in sense.

Josh42
28-08-2009, 01:47 AM
Everything is about intention, IMO.

That's the thing that irks me most about suspensions in sports, particularly hockey. Someone goes and does something dangerous as fuck... but no one gets hurt... short suspension.

Someone else does something that is still not acceptable... but not nearly as bad. But some stroke of bad luck, the injury is worse... long ass suspension.

That makes no f'in sense.

YouTube - Donald Brashear cheapshots Blair Betts in Game 6 ECQF WAS @ NYR

Maybe it was a little late, but it was just because the guy got super hardcore injured that Brash got suspended. I was mad.

flickahidalgo
28-08-2009, 01:51 AM
Intentionally doing something, when you know it is wrong, seems worse. Because if you accidentally do something, then really it is your fault, but it's not in a way, because you didn't mean to do it.

:P

Space Invader
28-08-2009, 04:41 AM
Intentionally doing something, when you know it is wrong, seems worse. Because if you accidentally do something, then really it is your fault, but it's not in a way, because you didn't mean to do it.

:P

that's what i believe

The Escapist
28-08-2009, 07:40 AM
How does one accidentally kill a person?

Josh42
28-08-2009, 07:47 AM
How does one accidentally kill a person?

You fall asleep at the wheel and hit somebody who's walking down the sidewalk.

i'maveryneatMonster.'
28-08-2009, 08:01 AM
How does one accidentally kill a person?

I can't believe you don't know that.

Tnspieler1012
28-08-2009, 08:05 AM
It's a confusing question because it doesn't seem to disclose if the 'worse' is reflected by the result or the persons involved. If you're talking about the 'damage done' then it doesn't matter whether or not the act was intentional. But if you're asking which person is worse, then the answer is obviously the former, given the latter is really accidental.

The Escapist
28-08-2009, 08:07 AM
You fall asleep at the wheel and hit somebody who's walking down the sidewalk.

But if you know you're tired then you should stop driving because then you are purposely putting others lives at risk, not an accident.

The Escapist
28-08-2009, 08:09 AM
It's a confusing question because it doesn't seem to disclose if the 'worse' is reflected by the result or the persons involved. If you're talking about the 'damage done' then it doesn't matter whether or not the act was intentional. But if you're asking which person is worse than the answer is obviously the former, given the latter is really accidental.

i know what you mean.

ivet
28-08-2009, 02:10 PM
^^right, but what about someone having a heart attack at the wheel? You can't help it if you suffer from a heart attack when you're driving home and let's say you hit someone crossing the street... You can't help it, it's an accident.


But i also do agree that most accidents could be avoided if people wouldn't be involved in risky situations.

Josh42
28-08-2009, 04:58 PM
^^right, but what about someone having a heart attack at the wheel? You can't help it if you suffer from a heart attack when you're driving home and let's say you hit someone crossing the street... You can't help it, it's an accident.


But i also do agree that most accidents could be avoided if people wouldn't be involved in risky situations.

That's obviously not as bad as torturing animals, but the situation you presented of drunk driving and killing someone is different.

Your question is unclear.

i'maveryneatMonster.'
28-08-2009, 05:09 PM
The question is silly.

Josh42
28-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Yea...how does one define "worse"?

Is it the guilt you feel afterward, the overall outcome of the events, or how frowned upon it is by society?

i'maveryneatMonster.'
28-08-2009, 05:17 PM
Society made the rules based on what they think it's good and bad.
But who told them they were right? lol.

ivet
29-08-2009, 03:47 AM
That's obviously not as bad as torturing animals, but the situation you presented of drunk driving and killing someone is different.

Your question is unclear.

Again, it's not what the question is focusing on, drunk driving. And i guess it's the over all outcome of the situation and what you think about it...

ricardo
29-08-2009, 04:01 AM
stupid me voted second option but meant fourth

Stargirl
29-08-2009, 04:20 AM
Hmmm... :thinking:
I think intentionally killing animals is worse. In the way I think of it anyhow;
If you got in a car accident and the person who crashed into you died, you can't do anything about it. Purposely shooting your dog, I believe would be worse because your doing something evil!!!!! :evil:

Tnspieler1012
29-08-2009, 04:25 AM
Purposely shooting your dog, I believe would be worse because your doing something evil!!!!! :evil:
old yeller? :thinking:

oh crap, I just made everybody sad

Josh42
29-08-2009, 04:26 AM
old yeller? :thinking:

oh crap, I just made everybody sad

FUCK YOU. This is officially the worst day of my life.

Tnspieler1012
29-08-2009, 04:29 AM
http://www.canpages.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.jpg

*pets cat*

*punts cat out window* *malicious laugh*

Stargirl
29-08-2009, 02:16 PM
Good thing I'm allergic to cats... :rolleyes:

busybeeburns
08-01-2010, 06:40 PM
would you do the same to mini-me?

Technicolor Sparks
08-01-2010, 08:53 PM
I think intentionally torturing animals is worse. They're just as important as people, so it is the same thing as intentionally torturing a person. :smug:

Reilly
08-01-2010, 09:14 PM
I accidentally chose accidentally killing a person. I mean the animals one.

Because intentionally torturing animals isn't an act, it's an illness, a lifestyle, if you are heartless enough to consciously think that it's fine to torture animals then you are just as much of a thread to humans.

If someone was to hit a button at a factory when someone puts their hand in the machine when they shouldn't, and they are killed by accident, then it's unfortunate, it's not at all a 'worse' or even 'wrong' action, it was just terribly unlucky for everyone.

But thats assuming the question is about a persons morals. And yes, its a silly question.