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busybeeburns
05-08-2008, 09:59 AM
One of the things that I hoped to accomplish with my two books The Rock & Roll Rebellion, Faith, God & Rock 'n' Roll and my next, Rock Gets Religion, was to encourage artists to use their music to grapple with the big issues of life. Theology, the study of our beliefs about God is of course one of those big issues of life that smart people like to sit around and speculate about, and U2 has always done a good job of talking theology, albeit obliquely.

For many U2 fans, Bono's religious lessons were easy to swallow because he always gave them an out. After all, though he didn't have a sex act in mind when he sang "If you want to touch the sky better learn to kneel," some of his fans may have thought so and few likely understood that The Joshua Tree referenced the cross that Christ died on, (Joshua being another name for Jesus). In fact Bono explicitly gave his more secular listeners an alternate reading with his song about the theological notion of "Grace" when he sang "It's the name for a girl, it's also a thought that changed the world."

So when I began to hear Chris Martin at my gym singing about St. Peter not calling his name I was intrigued. What in the world was he singing about? A lot it turns out. It seems that a debate is already raging in cyberspace about his band Coldplay and its song "Viva La Vida"

What Martin isn't doing is playing coy like Bono. At first blush, this appears to be a direct, albeit melodic attack on the Catholic Church. Listen and read for yourself here and here.

I'm not Catholic, and I'm certainly no theologian, but when a song apparently written from the perspective of the Pope or the Catholic church includes the line "For some reason I can't explain, I know St. Peter won't call my name," those sound like fighting words to me.

There's a pretty smart analysis of the song from a guy who's way smarter than I am here, but before poor Chris Martin is crucified for this song, I think it's important to step back, take a deep breath and say that this is exactly what rock and roll should be doing: debating the big issues of life, asking questions, provoking and challenging the status quo and all listeners, even Catholics, should prefer this to meaningless drivel like the number one song in the country this summer, "I Kissed A Girl And I Liked It."

Martin and company recorded the album in various Catholic churches which may alternately horrify the faithful or inspire. Whatever the case, my hat is off to Coldplay for starting a provocative debate and singing about something other than the number of women they bedded.

For half a century rock has been operating with half its brain tied behind its back-seeming to be capable only of talking about sex and drugs. Now, with U2, Switchfoot, Matisyahu and Coldplay leading the way, it's proving to be a venue for thoughtful and challenging discussions about the big issues of life as well.

Now, who will fire back and challenge Coldplay's view of the Catholic Church with a song that I can't stop humming? I can't wait to hear it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-joseph/coldplay-takes-on-the-pop_b_116929.html

Texasluvsjonny
05-08-2008, 10:05 AM
oh waiter..I'll have some of what ever he's smoking. :dozey:

KissesBirds
05-08-2008, 10:15 AM
I really don't see how that song could be an attack on the Catholic Church.

"*"*Claire*"*"
05-08-2008, 02:16 PM
What? IMO who wrote this article didn't understand anything about the song.. There are no attacks to the catholic church or to any other churchs.. my Lord! It's just a song!

Space Cadet
05-08-2008, 03:05 PM
Don't you just love it when some random journalist writes a thesis about one line without bothering to listen to the whole song to find out what it's actually about? :dozey:

guyy
05-08-2008, 08:36 PM
Whatever the case, my hat is off to Coldplay for starting a provocative debate and singing about something other than the number of women they bedded.

:dozey:

When have they ever done that? This is Coldplay, remember.

I would ask why the heck he's talking about VLV here and not Violet Hill ("Priests clutched onto bibles, hollowed out to fit their rifles"), but actually it seems likely that VLV is the only Coldplay song he's ever heard.

majgirl
05-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Being a Catholic myself I'm perfectly comfortable singing along to Viva La Vida, I hear absolutely no "attack on the pope" or the "catholic church." If anything Violet Hill has more of a tendency in that direction, even so it happens to be my favorite song on the album. I firmly feel that as long as people are basically respectful they have every right to have their opinions on religions, and the lyrics are not so in your face as to make it impossible for it to mean something personal to me. Coldplay have never taken an in your face attitude with their opinions so there welcome to have them, I don't have to agree with them politically or morally to love their music. If I only listened to bands who shared my philosophy on life I would have a very slim album collection.

Yellow Hill
05-08-2008, 10:24 PM
What? IMO who wrote this article didn't understand anything about the song.. There are no attacks to the catholic church or to any other churchs.. my Lord! It's just a song!
I agree 100% :D

Knotty
05-08-2008, 10:48 PM
I actually did consider the other day that the song may be written from the catholic church's perspective. It seemed really weird when I first considered it but, I don't know, it half made sense in my head. This is the sort of nonsense I usually laugh at and ridicule but give it a second's thought, and it's not as absurd as it first sounds.

Cobalt
06-08-2008, 04:31 AM
Violet Hill's more of a song likely to be "attacking" the Catholic Church if any and I doubt it is

GTFO

coldplayfaith
06-08-2008, 04:43 AM
I actually thought that Viva La Vida might be about Bush or Blair, or Moses who parted the sea... but more like Bush after his term ends, looking back on his "glory days" and how lots of revolutionaries are waiting for him, and how St. Peter isn't gonna let him in...

Are Catholics the only one with saints?

Tnspieler1012
06-08-2008, 05:29 AM
lol, there was a radio host who also thought that it was a political song about blair and the guys were like "umm...no, actually you're dead wrong."