German music....

[Gitta Rensolo]

Don't know if this thread exists but I wnted to start it....so talk about german music.....GOOD german music... :D

[naty]

the only german group that i hear is sportfreunde stiller.
thats all, the rest is *****

[Gitta Rensolo]

No naty that's not true!!!
I think we really have good groups like Seeed,beatsteaks,sportfreunde,helge schneider :D ...

[Petit Prince]

I don't like German and Swiss music. :embarrased:

[naty]

i don't like seeed, beatsteaks, helge schneider (gott wie kommst jetzt auf den *gg*), nena, tokio hotel (!!!!!!!), juli, silbermond, etc.

[Gitta Rensolo]

Hey nichts gegen Helge schneider ja?Der typ ist absolut gut und cool.ich rede jetzt in erster Linie von guter Musik....nicht von Geschmack.... :D

[Petit Prince]

Does anybody know Swiss music? :/

[naty]

ok, lets talk about good german music ... but where is it? :dozey:

[naty]

yeah dj bobo is swiss

[Gitta Rensolo]

Hmmmmmmm.......................................... ...NO!Tell me some bands.

[Petit Prince]

Yeah DJ Bobo is probably the most famous and Patrick Nuo and Mia Aegeter. And we have some singers who sing in swiss German like Gölä, or Züri Wescht. :embarrased:


And Swiss Hip Hop is pretty popular at the moment.

[Gitta Rensolo]

ok, lets talk about good german music ... but where is it? :dozey:

Helge Schneider z.B. :lol:

Die Ärzte,Seeed,Kraftwerk.....ach keine ahnung ich glaub der thread hier ist völlig sinnlos...ich weiß es GIBT GUT DEUTSCHE MUSIK...mir fällt sie nur nicht mehr ein.... :angry:

[naty]

christina stürmer is an austrian singer, i think you already know her in germany.
she is cool. i know her since the casting show starmania.
but i don't like her music

[Petit Prince]

Die Ärzte mag ich so nicht. Konnt nie verstehen weshalb die so beliebt sind.

[Gitta Rensolo]

:confused: :confused:
I don't like her,too....

[naty]

hab die ärzte live gesehen. sind zwar stimmungsmacher aber nicht mein ding

[Gitta Rensolo]

ach doch die ärzte hör ich noch ganz gern...

[Petit Prince]

christina stürmer is an austrian singer, i think you already know her in germany.
she is cool. i know her since the casting show starmania.
but i don't like her music

I just heard Engel fliegen einsam on Hitradio Oe 3. I Think it'ds horrible.

[Petit Prince]

Ich weiss nicht, ich kommt mit dieser Musik nie was anfangen...

[naty]

engel fliegen ist nicht gerade ihr bestes lied.
sie hat ja in österreich mittlerweile 3 alben, darum kenn ich mehr lieder als ihr wahrscheinlich

[Gitta Rensolo]

Mir reicht "Ich lebe" schon....und das mit den engeln kenn ich nicht so...

[winnie]

The Beatsteaks kick ass!

And don't forget about Rammstein or Die toten Hosen, both are even outside of GER/SWI/AUS pretty famous, though I'm not the biggest fan of their music.

[naty]

die toten hosen are great!!! my daddy has some records.
rammstein?? OMG!!! n/c :/

[Gitta Rensolo]

beatsteaks (kenn nur smacksmash) ziemlich cool....was erfolg betrifft Rammstein und Toten Hosen gut,aber nicht meine Musik :confused:
Ach ja und die scorpions :confused: und Kraftwerk...

[naty]

don't forget falco!!!! he was the best austrian singer!!!

[Bijeli_Miš]

Bro'sis :cool:

[Sheila]

meine freundin hat neulich gesagt christina stürmer ist ein bewegungsspasst, naja wo sie recht hat...die hat schon komische moves drauf LOL das erste lied war noch ok aber bei dem engel rotz rollen sich meine fussnägel auf :stunned:

ich find juli eigentlich ganz cool, finde die von den neuen deutschen bands am besten

ansonsten gute musik (auch wenn ich snich so höre): toten hosen, ärzte, rammstein natürlich

ich finde auch gentleman und patrice machen für deutsche verhältnisse gute musik

das erstmal alles was mir dazu einfällt :D

[naty]

sarah conner mag ich nicht so

[Jewel]

Tomte, The Monochords (no longer existent), Wir Sind Helden, some Xavier Naidoo ballads, Virginia Jetzt!

[naty]

ahhh virginia jetzt are great!!!!! :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

:confused: Virginia jetzt!?NO WAY...

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

^find ich auch langweilig

so peeps listen up

DIE ÄRZTE & FARIN URLAUB
BEATSTEAKS
SPORTFREUNDE STILLER
WIR SIND HELDEN
REVERB (okay that's a local band)
XAVIER NAIDOO & all his projects like SÖHNE MANNHEIMS
HERBERT GRÖNEMEYER (I'm not joking)

= good German music

[';']

i don't know if anyone has mentioned her. but i've been listening to ellen allien. and i believe she's german :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

:huh:

Don't know her...

[';']

...kraftwerk.




i've seen rammstein live :)

[cf]

Good german music?

Beatsteaks
Die Ärzte
Farin Urlaub
Wir Sind Helden
Rammstein (they had good songs)
Guano Apes (same as Rammstein ;))

Urghs ..
Other good german music, not so well known. Don't like their music much, but they have skill :
Subway To Sally --> Some kind of "middle-age gothic" or don't know ..

Söhne Mannheims and Xavier Naidoo: I have heard music from them in the past, but at the moment .. I don't like them much .. but Xavier is a pretty good singer.

There are many good german bands out there.
Hint: Look beside the media control single charts *grin*

By the way ..
Better talk english, so that everybody can understand it :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

And hege schneider definitely IS a good musician that's the truth....

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

yeah I forgot the Guano Apes of cors!

yeah I heard he can also do very good, serious music?


now playing: Farin Urlaub!!

[Gitta Rensolo]

helge schneider is one of the best musicians in germany same with Götz alsmann..

[cf]

yeah I forgot the Guano Apes of cors!

yeah I heard he can also do very good, serious music?


now playing: Farin Urlaub!!

Good choice, I hear it right now, too ;)

Helge Schneider can do serious music?
I don't really wonder about it .. but I think he see's himself more as a comedian and entertainer, or not?

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

Yeah I only know him like that, but I think I've heard he can play several instruments very good or stuff.

Farin's new album is so lovely!

[winnie]

If I recall correctly, he is a pretty good Saxophone player. Also he's pretty good in jazzy things, such as piano and stuff. But I never heard a real serious song by him, maybe because I never searched for one ;-)

[cf]

If I recall correctly, he is a pretty good Saxophone player. Also he's pretty good in jazzy things, such as piano and stuff. But I never heard a real serious song by him, maybe because I never searched for one ;-)

Yes, I've never searched for him, too ;)

But when you look this way .. Stefan Raab is also really good in music things.
I think, if he want to, then he can do really good music, too. No question ;)

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

yeah I think that's true.
Remember Max Mutzke - yeah it was a fuckin pop hit, but it sounded good somehow!

[Gitta Rensolo]

The thing with raab is true...

Helge doesn't write serious songs but if you see him playing life that's amazing.He plays the saxofon very good and the piano...this is a multitalent!And I think he is really funny..but he doesn't see himself as a comedian...

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

not? well sometimes I have the feeling he is always crazy, not only on stage...and this way he acts...somehow it almost scares me!

[cf]

Me thinks helge Schneider is an entertainer. For sure ;)

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

yeah, and a very special entertainer!

[Gitta Rensolo]

I love to see him and most of the things he does aren't planned,so if that's not people humour then I can undrstand it....

[mc_squared]

I don't like German and Swiss music. :embarrased:

Now THERE's someone with good taste!! :D

[cf]

I don't like German and Swiss music. :embarrased:

Now THERE's someone with good taste!! :D

That's because you never heard some kind of good german music. ;)

[mc_squared]

I don't like German and Swiss music. :embarrased:

Now THERE's someone with good taste!! :D

That's because you never heard some kind of good german music. ;)

I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist!! :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

Liar.....

[mc_squared]

Die Fantastischen Vier perhaps?? But that's only because they have an "American" sound!! :D

[cf]

You're pretty funny mc_squared :P

But we're here to talk about german music. If you don't like, don't post xD ;)

[mc_squared]

You're pretty funny mc_squared :P

But we're here to talk about german music. If you don't like, don't post xD ;)

[winnie]

Oh my gosh, get away from meee!

[mc_squared]

Why? He's a classic example of German music!! :P
Look at the number of people who buy THAT rubbish!! :angry:

[cf]

No, thats definitely NOT a classic example of german music.

Please listen to some good bands, not that old "Volksmusik" out there ..

I think you don't listened to any of this bands, I've postet on this thread.

In germany, nobody's talking about Wolfgang Petry anymore ..

That are the typical prejudices about germans and their sense of good music.

:angry:

[Gitta Rensolo]

ah mc it seems to me that you like the pic :P

[winnie]

That are the typical prejudices about germans and their sense of good music.

Yeah! Like the english and their not exisiting cooking-skills! (err, wait, was this a prejudice or a fact? I forgot ;-) )

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

:lol: yeah! confess it! YOU count to that number of people who bought that rubbish!!!

[burningmonk]

Rammstein are German!! :cool:

[mc_squared]

That are the typical prejudices about germans and their sense of good music.

Yeah! Like the english and their not exisiting cooking-skills! (err, wait, was this a prejudice or a fact? I forgot ;-) )

Music's way more important than cooking - and on that count, the score is Britain 10 - Germany 0!! :P
And anyway, isn't somebody called Jamie Oliver popular in Germany?? Which nationality is he, I wonder?? :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

Ah come on mc there are many talented GERMAN musicians out there....

[winnie]

About Jamie Oliver: In Germany we say "Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel" - too lazy, to translate that ;-)

[mc_squared]

Ah come on mc there are many talented GERMAN musicians out there....

Well Soulounge are good - but THEY sing in English, too!! :D

[burningmonk]

Rammstein are bigger than alot of English bands..

[Gitta Rensolo]

Who is that?(fuck I don't know them...)

[cf]

Music's way more important than cooking - and on that count, the score is Britain 10 - Germany 0!! :P
And anyway, isn't somebody called Jamie Oliver popular in Germany?? Which nationality is he, I wonder?? :D

You underestimate german music skill.
And you forgot that fact, that english is the worlds first language .. so, you got more international chances. I mean, a lot of german bands don't give a fuck 'bout singing in english. That's why you people never heard of them ;)

I mean, there are a lot of british bands with no good music, too ;)

What? You don't know Rammstein, Julia? Oo

And the translation of winnie's postet german adage:
"Exeptions prove the norm" (that's correct, I think ..)

[mc_squared]

Rammstein are bigger than alot of English bands..

They'll never be as big as the likes of Coldplay, Oasis and Robbie Williams - you can forget it!! :D

[burningmonk]

Have you seen they're live shows man? IMO they're already bigger than Coldplay...

[cf]

We talk about good music and music skills .. not how popular they are. It's good to see, that for example Rammstein are very popular in the USA, but there are other german bands, you don't know (or don't want to know), which don't sing in english. And they have at least the same skill like a lot of english singing (britain ..) bands...

And Rammstein is already bigger than Coldplay :D

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

but much worse :( i don't like them man.

[mc_squared]

We talk about good music and music skills .. not how popular they are. It's good to see, that for example Rammstein are very popular in the USA, but there are other german bands, you don't know (or don't want to know), which don't sing in english. And they have at least the same skill like a lot of english singing (britain ..) bands...

That might be the case, but they have one very big disadvantage - they sing in German!! :P

And Rammstein is already bigger than Coldplay :D

*Says who?? Coldplay's music appeals to people across the board, while Rammstein only appeals to a certain type of fan.
You can't compare the two.

[burningmonk]

They're an aquired taste..

[mc_squared]

That means the music has very limited appeal!! :D

[cf]

That means the music has very limited appeal!! :D

Not really ;)

[mc_squared]

That means the music has very limited appeal!! :D

Not really ;)

Yes - definitely. It's far too hard and heavy for your "general" music fan!! :smug:
And so much German music seems to be like that.

[burningmonk]

Maybe it's because they have stepped away from mainstream music..

[mc_squared]

Maybe it's because they have stepped away from mainstream music..

I don't know why, but there has always been a tendency towards "hard and heavy" in Germany.
Take their dance music for example - it's exactly the same. All trancey and techno.
Dance music in the U.K. is far more soul-orientated............................as it is in the States, too. Far better.

[cf]

Maybe it's because they have stepped away from mainstream music..

Yes. You got it ;)

When I search for new good music, I look always apart the mainstream chart music ..
Well, that does not mean, that I don't listen to mainstream. But actually, most bands placed in the music charts are shitty ..

Don't understand me wrong. ;)

But every country has its talented bands ^^

And one thing about "hard 'n heavy". Don't know if I understand you right (because of my english *g*) .. but german music can also be hard 'n heavy ...

[mc_squared]

Maybe it's because they have stepped away from mainstream music..

Yes. You got it ;)

When I search for new good music, I look always apart the mainstream chart music ..
Well, that does not mean, that I don't listen to mainstream. But actually, most bands placed in the music charts are shitty ..

Don't understand me wrong. ;)

But every country has its talented bands ^^

I think you'll find that Rammstein were NEVER part of mainstream music - ALWAYS hard and heavy. That's what they are - and it's never going to have broad appeal.

[cf]

I think you'll find that Rammstein were NEVER part of mainstream music - ALWAYS hard and heavy. That's what they are - and it's never going to have broad appeal.

So whats the problem?
They definitly got skill, too. And their music is not bad.
Do they have to be mainstream?

[burningmonk]

There's nothing wrong with hard and heavy...

[mc_squared]

And another thing - it isn't how talented you are that counts. It's what you DO with that talent that matters. Someone told me the other day that Wolfgang Petry is actually a very talented musician - but what he produces is absolute garbage!! :angry:

[mc_squared]

There's nothing wrong with hard and heavy...

If you're into that sort of thing, it's fine - but it's always going to be too extreme for the majority of people.
Ditto punk and goth.

[cf]

And another thing - it isn't how talented you are that counts. It's what you DO with that talent that matters. Someone told me the other day that Wolfgang Petry is actually a very talented musician - but what he produces is absolute garbage!! :angry:

Just believe me when I say that Wolfgang Petry is not popular in germany anymore. He's dead, when you want to ..

[burningmonk]

You could say the same thing about Coldplay. Vise versa of course though...

[mc_squared]

And another thing - it isn't how talented you are that counts. It's what you DO with that talent that matters. Someone told me the other day that Wolfgang Petry is actually a very talented musician - but what he produces is absolute garbage!! :angry:

Just believe me when I say that Wolfgang Petry is not popular in germany anymore. He's dead, when you want to ..

That's not what I've heard!!
And what I can't believe is how he could ever have been popular in the first place.
It shows an unbelievable lack of taste!

[cf]

And one thing: You said "It's what you DO with that talent that matters."
Well, the management around Rammstein don't "hype" them anymore.
They have their fans, and good. The same as other bands ..

We could also have only hard and heavy music rotating in the majorities cd players, but as long as the music labels and the new media (TV and magazines, etc..) hype another teeny pop band or ringtone music, there's no chance ...

Understood me?

[burningmonk]

It shows DIFFERENT taste...

[mc_squared]

You could say the same thing about Coldplay. Vise versa of course though...

Coldplay's music is accessible to a lot of people because it isn't in any way extreme. THAT's the difference.
You could say the same about Pink Floyd, The Beatles, U2 or even The Rolling Stones.
They all have one thing in common: BROAD appeal.

[Jewel]

helge schneider is one of the best musicians in germany same with Götz alsmann..

I second the Alsmann thing.. he's a good bloke. :D

[mc_squared]

helge schneider is one of the best musicians in germany same with Götz alsmann..

I second the Alsmann thing.. he's a good bloke. :D

Never heard of him - and as far as Helge Schneider's concerned, I thought he was a "comedy singer"?? :huh:

[cf]

helge schneider is one of the best musicians in germany same with Götz alsmann..

I second the Alsmann thing.. he's a good bloke. :D

Never heard of him - and as far as Helge Schneider's concerned, I thought he was a "comedy singer"?? :huh:

You got right. ;)

Both are "comedy singers"

[naty]

sido, bushido, ecko fresh, ... are also german artists :lol:

[naty]

ahh and tokio hotel!!!! :lol:

[cf]

sido, bushido, ecko fresh, ... are also german artists :lol:

And also only local "artists".

But don't post this here. That's no music, that's fucking bullshit for the kids! :o

"Talkin' bout the musician qualities from Aggro Berlin is like looking for the advantages of an AOL internet connection!" :D

Note: Aggro Berlin is their label .. they produce only shitty things ..

[naty]

do you know "die firma" ??? horrible :lol:

[cf]

Awww, go away with this ..

Let's talk about music again :P

[mc_squared]

helge schneider is one of the best musicians in germany same with Götz alsmann..

I second the Alsmann thing.. he's a good bloke. :D

Never heard of him - and as far as Helge Schneider's concerned, I thought he was a "comedy singer"?? :huh:

You got right. ;)

Both are "comedy singers"

So how can you take them seriously?? All sounds like a big "joke" to me!! :P
And of course, Wolfgang Petry is "comedy", too!!

[naty]

Awww, go away with this ..

Let's talk about music again :P


die firma is typical german music :lol: :P

[cf]

helge schneider is one of the best musicians in germany same with Götz alsmann..

I second the Alsmann thing.. he's a good bloke. :D

Never heard of him - and as far as Helge Schneider's concerned, I thought he was a "comedy singer"?? :huh:

You got right. ;)

Both are "comedy singers"

So how can you take them seriously?? All sounds like a big "joke" to me!! :P
And of course, Wolfgang Petry is "comedy", too!!

I don't take them seriously Oo

[mc_squared]

helge schneider is one of the best musicians in germany same with Götz alsmann..

I second the Alsmann thing.. he's a good bloke. :D

Never heard of him - and as far as Helge Schneider's concerned, I thought he was a "comedy singer"?? :huh:

You got right. ;)

Both are "comedy singers"

So how can you take them seriously?? All sounds like a big "joke" to me!! :P
And of course, Wolfgang Petry is "comedy", too!!

I don't take them seriously Oo

Well someone does! They said they were "among the best musicians in Germany". Doesn't say much for German music then, does it?? :D

[mc_squared]

Oh, and more typical German music - Die Toten Hosen and Die Arzte. Again, both pretty "hard"-sounding an not with mass appeal...........................

[naty]

do you hear german music mark?

[cf]

Well someone does! They said they were "among the best musicians in Germany". Doesn't say much for German music then, does it?? :D
Not really :rolleyes:

I wonder, which people have told you this crap Oo

[mc_squared]

do you hear german music mark?

I've heard enough of the kind of stuff I've mentioned to know it's awful!! :P

[naty]

german music is awful, thats right :cool:

[cf]

Oh, and more typical German music - Die Toten Hosen and Die Arzte. Again, both pretty "hard"-sounding an not with mass appeal...........................

Möööp, no!

Die Ärzte are pretty popular and famous in germany.
They are even in the single charts (between the most other crap from the last time ..).
And Die Toten Hosen are also such kind of band. Not so popular than Die Ärzte, I think.

They make good music, but only in german. What means: Not international ;)

In germany, they have both much mass appeal !

[mc_squared]

And one thing: You said "It's what you DO with that talent that matters."
Well, the management around Rammstein don't "hype" them anymore.
They have their fans, and good. The same as other bands ..

We could also have only hard and heavy music rotating in the majorities cd players, but as long as the music labels and the new media (TV and magazines, etc..) hype another teeny pop band or ringtone music, there's no chance ...

Understood me?

Hard and heavy music will NEVER have mass appeal, as it's too extreme for most ears. The same goes for hardcore rap and extreme techno.
It has nothing to do with the media.

[mc_squared]

Oh, and more typical German music - Die Toten Hosen and Die Arzte. Again, both pretty "hard"-sounding an not with mass appeal...........................

Möööp, no!

Die Ärzte are pretty popular and famous in germany.
They are even in the single charts (between the most other crap from the last time ..).
And Die Toten Hosen are also such kind of band. Not so popular than Die Ärzte, I think.

They make good music, but only in german. What means: Not international ;)

In germany, they have both much mass appeal !

Yes - but ONLY in Germany. And that's the problem. That kind of sound could only ever be popular in Germany, as it's too weird!!
If they were singing in English, it wouldn't make any difference.

[mc_squared]

german music is awful, thats right :cool:

And so are YOU (RIGHT, that is)!! :) :cool:

[naty]

god, imagine tokio hotel in england :stunned:

[cf]

But now, you can't say "german music is shitty" anymore, because there ARE great bands out there in germany.

You don't like 'em .. that's another thing :)

[mc_squared]

god, imagine tokio hotel in england :stunned:

No thanks!! But there is similar rubbish to THAT in the U.K. What kind of music is it, anyway?? :huh:

[naty]

pop, but the guys think they are metal or something :/

[mc_squared]

But now, you can't say "german music is shitty" anymore, because there ARE great bands out there in germany.

You don't like 'em .. that's another thing :)

You say that, but you still haven't NAMED any!! None of the ones mentioned so far could be described as "great"!!

THESE are/were all "great":

Coldplay
U2
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd

[mc_squared]

pop, but the guys think they are metal or something :/

Metal, or MENTAL?? :P

[winnie]

Which band is great and which is not depends still (thanks god for that) on everyone's point of view alone. So I think this discussion is unnecessary ;-)

[naty]

but the members on the tokio hotel board say, tokio hotel are punk :/ :lol:

http://www.voteonline5.de/user/tokio-hotel/act_tokio_gr01.jpg

[mc_squared]

Which band is great and which is not depends still (thanks god for that) on everyone's point of view alone. So I think this discussion is unnecessary ;-)

No, there are lots of bands which could be described as "great", but none of those German ones mentioned could ever be put in that category.

Grönemeyer possibly could be, as he is a good songwriter and doesn't make "noise".
I have respect for him. :D

[naty]

grönemeyer is a great songwriter, but he can't sing

[winnie]

Which band is great and which is not depends still (thanks god for that) on everyone's point of view alone. So I think this discussion is unnecessary ;-)

No, there are lots of bands which could be described as "great", but none of those German ones mentioned could ever be put in that category.

Grönemeyer possibly could be, as he is a good songwriter and doesn't make "noise".
I have respect for him. :D

So then, who puts bands in the category "Great"?

God? George W. Bush? The Queen? You?

I think, this does everyone for himself...

[mc_squared]

Which band is great and which is not depends still (thanks god for that) on everyone's point of view alone. So I think this discussion is unnecessary ;-)

No, there are lots of bands which could be described as "great", but none of those German ones mentioned could ever be put in that category.

Grönemeyer possibly could be, as he is a good songwriter and doesn't make "noise".
I have respect for him. :D

So then, who puts bands in the category "Great"?

God? George W. Bush? The Queen? You?

I think, this does everyone for himself...

Well you've listed THREE of the greats in your sig, so you must know something!!
Don't know the Beatsteaks, I'm afraid!!
:P

[cf]

I give it up ..

Everybody has it's on point of view .
For me, there are german bands, that I would mention as "great".

Xavier Naidoo has a great voice .. but I don't like his music ..
Die Ärzte have great live performances and so on .. but they make german punkrock, so no music for you!
....

You can go on and on...

[cf]

Beatsteaks ARE great :D :D

[naty]

no, thats not true :confused:

[winnie]

Which band is great and which is not depends still (thanks god for that) on everyone's point of view alone. So I think this discussion is unnecessary ;-)

No, there are lots of bands which could be described as "great", but none of those German ones mentioned could ever be put in that category.

Grönemeyer possibly could be, as he is a good songwriter and doesn't make "noise".
I have respect for him. :D

So then, who puts bands in the category "Great"?

God? George W. Bush? The Queen? You?

I think, this does everyone for himself...

Well you've listed THREE of the greats in your sig, so you must know something!!
Don't know the Beatsteaks, I'm afraid!!
:P

Well, that's true, of course, these are my "greatest Bands", the Beatsteaks aren't great in your definition though, cause they are german and punk ;-)

But maybe we can make a world-poll:

Everyone aged over 12 in the world lists it's 5 favourite bands, we count the results and those, who got the most votes get listed in the "Greatest bands"-list. This would be fair and democratic. But I'm afraid those people from asia, which are approx. the half of the world's population, will shift the results to some unknown local bands, but who cares, I'll start printing the Poll-sheets... 5,5 billion to go... ;-)

[mc_squared]

Which band is great and which is not depends still (thanks god for that) on everyone's point of view alone. So I think this discussion is unnecessary ;-)

No, there are lots of bands which could be described as "great", but none of those German ones mentioned could ever be put in that category.

Grönemeyer possibly could be, as he is a good songwriter and doesn't make "noise".
I have respect for him. :D

So then, who puts bands in the category "Great"?

God? George W. Bush? The Queen? You?

I think, this does everyone for himself...

Well you've listed THREE of the greats in your sig, so you must know something!!
Don't know the Beatsteaks, I'm afraid!!
:P

Well, that's true, of course, these are my "greatest Bands", the Beatsteaks aren't great in your definition though, cause they are german and punk ;-)

But maybe we can make a world-poll:

Everyone aged over 12 in the world lists it's 5 favourite bands, we count the results and those, who got the most votes get listed in the "Greatest bands"-list. This would be fair and democratic. But I'm afraid those people from asia, which are approx. the half of the world's population, will shift the results to some unknown local bands, but who cares, I'll start printing the Poll-sheets... 5,5 billion to go... ;-)

"Favourite" has nothing to do with it, as there are far too many people out there who are clueless!! :P

[cf]

So, as they are clueless, the may hear hard and heavy music, too.
Then, it's a decision of the media, which play the music, that they "clueless" ears hear ...
If they play hard and heavy, they will hear hard and heavy ..
If they play techno, they hear techno ...

The influence of the media ;)

[mc_squared]

So, as they are clueless, the may hear hard and heavy music, too.
Then, it's a decision of the media, which play the music, that they "clueless" ears hear ...

No, because you should be clued up enough not to believe all the media hype. There are far too many "sheep" around - that's the problem! :angry:
You should be able to listen to anything with an open mind, without allowing yourself to be influenced by the media.

[naty]

i think this discussion is senseless :snore:

[cf]

i think this discussion is senseless :snore:

Yes.


@ mc_squared:
And thats the problem!
Many people doesn't are clued enough ... :P

They will hear anything, that is hyped by the media ..

[mc_squared]

i think this discussion is senseless :snore:

As is the vast majority of German music!! :P

[winnie]

Wow, was the comparison with the Pink Flyod-song "Sheep" intended? If yes, applause :-)

[mc_squared]

Wow, was the comparison with the Pink Flyod-song "Sheep" intended? If yes, applause :-)

http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/e016.gif

[Gitta Rensolo]

I think "Krafterk" are one of the most important bands in music history.Without them electronic music wouldn't be this what it is today!!!

[mc_squared]

I think "Krafterk" are one of the most important bands in music history.Without them electronic music wouldn't be this what it is today!!!

Now THAT I agree with!! They were indeed pioneers. I loved OMD, and they were strongly influenced by KraftWerk (you missed out the "w").
I particularly liked "The Model" and "Tour De France"!! :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

QWell don't know that much by them...I know "Wir sind die Roboter" for example and I really like it....I read things about music history and they were always mentioned!

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

there another really good rock band from Munich.
ALEV - that means "Flame" and is also the first name of their singer - she is Turkish. Their sound is definitely (alternative) rock, no ballads except one, but the voice is just beautiful. Maybe somebody wants to check out their debut album "We Live In Paradise" - but if you do, please skip the first track, you could get a bad experience of the band cuz the first song is instrumental and sounds just like bad NuMetal. the other songs, esp "If We Ever" and "Sweet Lullaby" are awesome.
No I don't know them personally and try to do advertise, I just had to tell you about them cuz I like them very much...

[cf]

You mean this?
http://laut.de/wortlaut/artists/a/alev/index.htm

Mh, never heard of them before. Maybe I'm looking for ..

And we forgot to speek about Seeed!
I actually don't like their music, but they have potencial.

And Gentleman has international potencial, too. ;)

All german^^

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

aaah! how could I forget Gentleman. I'm a fan of him, saw him in concert last year... :confused: Yeah I don't like Seeed either, but well...

I read about Alev in EMP and was interested. I always find bands with female singers interesting bcuz I sing, too.

[Gitta Rensolo]

i think Seeed is really cool....don't like gentleman...

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

Well that's also possible...well Reggae is not everyone's taste. I think Gentleman's last album was so good. Best Reggae artist from Germany.

[Gitta Rensolo]

he is a good musician...but it's not my taste...

[cf]

What about Madsen? I like their music :)

[kekita]

i like Bach and Mozart :D

they r German right? cause back in those days Germany was independant states so i may have gotten it wrong...

[Gitta Rensolo]

kekita yes you are right....but germany and Austria are complaining if Mozart was german or austrian...

[naty]

mozart was born in salzburg, so he was austrian.

[*Sarah*]

What about Madsen? I like their music :)

I like them a lot and they are actually very nice guys as well. ;) met them a few times some years ago, when they weren't as famous as they are today. I'm going to see them live again ( for the 4th time) on october 8th. :)

[cf]

I'm going to see them live again ( for the 4th time) on october 8th. :)
Mh, just a few days after my birthday ;)
Where did they play on october 8th?

[*Sarah*]

in einbeck. 7 km away from my... kaff. lol

[cf]

Einbeck? Which known city is next? Oo

[*Sarah*]

^göttingen, if you know that one. *g*

the great thing about that madsen concert is that it is free. :D they're playing on our 'eulenfest' (the 'eule' is a famous local newspaper over here xD) so it does not cost anything :)

[cf]

Oh .. I wish I could be there, too .. especially as its for free :)

Nice one .. You lucky beggar xD

[angelfish23]

:D wow.. crazy disscussion here

i think it is stupid to argue if a band is good or not... that depends on your point of view,....

but i have to say you all forgot about THE best german band: REAMONN!! they are great. they have potential... i wonder that no-one mentioned here...

imho beatsteaks are great. i´ve seen them twice. its a lot of fun watching their shows... also fantastic four have an superb live quality (imho)

i also like gentleman... though i have to say the albums are a bit...eerrm boring to me... but live.. in summertime...perfect...

another artist i really like is thom. he is former singer of vivid. (not too bad as well)

a frined of mine introduced me to a band called mon)tag. they are pretty good
go and see www.tapeterecords.de /has also an english translation
there are a lot of other german artists too.

just to mention some more bands... (i dont like these bands personally but....) the ones mentioned so far..show a pretty onesided view...
h-blockx
blumfeld
mia
all the new band with girls as front"man" :D like Juli, wir sind helden, klee, etc etc...
sasha/dick brave
tocotronic (these are brutally bad imo)
jeremy days

ahh i think this is enough .... you have now stuff to disscuss on the next 11 pages..
;) have fun :lol:

[cf]

Mh ..Reamonn, right, we forgot it ! :D

But if you say Reamonn, me reminds back to Orange Blue? *g*

Then there was Echt .. better version of what it is right now Tokio Hotel :o

Discuss if you want Oo

[kekita]

just would like to say thanks to the people who cleared the Bach, Mozart question. Cheers ;)

[Gitta Rensolo]

:D :D :D :D
kekita you are welcome..... :D

[Ceckers]

I hate Rammestein!!!!!!!! :angry:

[Gitta Rensolo]

There you are totally right Ceckers ;)

[cf]

No way. Rammstein is great ... well .. sometimes :D

[kekita]

i like Amerika LMAO
haven't heard of much of their songs saw video clip where they r all overweight and the one where they r on leads like dogs and being taken for a walk. - totally freaky and wierd but original - they make me :lol:

[cf]

You saw the Clip "Keine Lust". Yes, the clip is crazy :lol:

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

Mh ..Reamonn, right, we forgot it ! :D

But if you say Reamonn, me reminds back to Orange Blue? *g*

Then there was Echt .. better version of what it is right now Tokio Hotel :o

Discuss if you want Oo

yeah Reamonn are good indeed. Everyone has to love "Supergirl". The other songs are a question of taste...they mostly play ballads, I think. I even have their album "Beautiful Sky" at home.

[Petit Prince]

'Supergirl' was such a beautiful song. :)

[winnie]

Isn't the singer of Reammon (Rea?) an irish fellow, is he?

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

yeah he is. and their guitarist is from Bamberg, the town where I go to school :)

[idsadmin]

Don't know if this thread exists but I wnted to start it....so talk about german music.....GOOD german music... :D

Camouflage - Sensor (Masterpiece Album)


http://www.musicpage.cz/mp/img/cd-camouflage.jpg

[Gitta Rensolo]

Camouflage???Never heard of them..... :huh:
Which kind of music do they....????

[idsadmin]

Camouflage???Never heard of them..... :huh:
Which kind of music do they....????

If you like Depeche Mode with more emotion you will probably like it, a bit on the electronic side, but the older albums are more traditional.

[Gitta Rensolo]

Hmmmm actually I'm not a Depeche Mode fan...but if they make good music then they had to be mentioned here...do you know where exactly they come from????

[idsadmin]

Not sure where exactly, but you wont be dissapointed.
http://www.releasemagazine.net/Onrecord/orcamouflages.htm

[Gitta Rensolo]

This is what's annoying me:You don't know the good bands from your own country....you really have to search for them.....the media always show you the worst things of Germany...I hate that..... :angry:

[cf]

And totally new ..

Revolverheld :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

Hmmmm I don't like the Revolverheld song that much.....but I think the singer has a good voice....

[kekita]

"You saw the Clip "Keine Lust". Yes, the clip is crazy "
:lol: what bout when they all overwieght?
Camouflage r any of their stuff up on the Multimedia section?

[The Noteburg]

Revolverheld are really... Scheiße! :D
Best German Band is defenitly "Wir sind Helden"

[Gitta Rensolo]

I don't like Wir sind helden but I think they are good musicians...

[cf]

Yes, since yesterday, as I've checked their website, I realized, Revolverheld are one of those bands like Silbermond and Juli .. Aww, fuck.. Those commercial things ..

Yes, Wir Sind Helden are definitely better!

[Gitta Rensolo]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Didn't you know that Revolverheld are like the others????

[cf]

In german:

Ja, hab ich erst jetzt gemerkt. Die waren hier mal irgend ein Festival in HH. Dann hab ich mal Generation Rock geschickt bekommen .. naja und als ich dann die Homepage von denen las weils mich interessiert hat hab ich dann gecheckt, dass die sowas von Kommerz sind :D

Lest euch das mal durch .. Is ja schlimmer als die Homepages von Silbermond und Juli zusammen Oo
Und das hat schon was zu bedeuten ..

Naja, ansonsten .. toller "Pop" ..

[Gitta Rensolo]

Muhahahahahaahahahahahahaha...... :P

[cf]

Jap, is halt "another Band for the little girls xD" :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

Yep with some good looking members :dozey: :dozey: :dozey:

[cf]

That's what I mean :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But if you first liked them...then....you....are....a....little....girl.. ...TOO!!!!!!!!! :P :P :P :P

[cf]

No, I do't really liked them first .. it's just .. difficult to explain yet :D

I know only ONE song

[Gitta Rensolo]

whoooooo applause...... :lol:

[angelfish23]

Northern lite is cool too ;)

[mc_squared]

Oh, no - not THIS thread again!! :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

You don't HAVE to post in it :P ......anyways a funny discussion would be nice now.... :P

[mc_squared]

German music IS funny!! :P

[cf]

You ARE funny!! :P

[mc_squared]

You ARE funny!! :P

:smug:

[Gitta Rensolo]

:dozey: :dozey: :dozey:

Now your self-confidence grew about 100 meters.......

[cf]

i HAVE tried that mc_squared style !! :P

Oo

[mc_squared]

:chef:

[*Sarah*]

so you're having that funny smiley party again?
awesome! lol

[Gitta Rensolo]

i HAVE tried that mc_squared style !! :P

Oo

DEFINITELY Mark's style! :P

[mc_squared]

http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/frech/c010.gif

[Gitta Rensolo]

Wow you changed your sig...I just recognised it now.... :D

[mc_squared]

^You should too - I want all CFU members to do it!!

[Gitta Rensolo]

Well...I'm a member of "M"FU :P

[mc_squared]

Aha - but you forgot to add the "cool" smiley!!

[Gitta Rensolo]

Did I "gorgot" it???? :P :P :P :P :P :P

[mc_squared]

^I don't have a clue what you're on about!! :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

:lol: hahahahah...You don't want to see YOUR mistakes?! :P

[mc_squared]

^WHICH mistakes? :P :lol:

[Gitta Rensolo]

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

It's ok....Mr PERFECT! :P

[mc_squared]

:cool:

[Gitta Rensolo]

Now you think you are cool hee???? :P

[jspodx]

the new single of rammstein (benzin) it's great :)

[winnie]

Yeah, saw it this morning on TV - was funny :-)

[mc_squared]

Funny - perhaps. Great - I very much doubt it!! :P

[winnie]

Yeah, you, the president of the ministry of good music taste... ;-P

[mc_squared]

Yeah, you, the president of the ministry of good music taste... ;-P

Hmmmmmmmmm - I quite like that title. Perhaps I'll adopt it!! :D
My first act would be to ban Wolfgang Petry and all German carnival music once and for all!! :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

No...don't ban the carnival music...what should we listen to then when there's carnival????

[winnie]

I HATE carnival! :-)

[cf]

Rammsteins new single IS good !! :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

I like carnival.....it's always funny.....we celebrate it like the people in cologne...and in cologne there is the REAL carnival! :D

[Petit Prince]

Rammsteins new single IS good !! :P

I haven't heard it yet, but I don't like the band. It's definitely better when people listen to their music who don't understand the words.

[mc_squared]

No...don't ban the carnival music...what should we listen to then when there's carnival????

GOOD music!! :P

[mc_squared]

I like carnival.....it's always funny.....we celebrate it like the people in cologne...and in cologne there is the REAL carnival! :D

That must mean everyone in your town is drunk and annoyingly loud!! :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

I think at carnival that's true...ok not everybody......but five days in the year celebrating carnival is cool! :D

[°°°Morning°Glory°°°]

Rammsteins new single IS good !! :P

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
THAT PIC IN YOUR AV!!!!!!!!!!!! sooooo fucking cool! :lol:

[shana]

I was in germany once in Wein Festival.. and saw a carnival.. it was great .. Wein also ace :D

Ok.. right.. i want to talk about German singer Maximilian Hecker i like him but i can only find 5 songs of him .,, i don't know if anybody like him too?

and a band The Prinzen are good too. :D

[Gitta Rensolo]

Don't know Maximilian Hecker.....and yeah the Prinzen I know...my sister used to like them....

[shana]

Maximilian sing in English and his album out in 2003 ,, i just know him from a friend.

Are Die Prinzen still around?? I have only 1 album of them.

[Gitta Rensolo]

i think they are still making music...but not as famous anymore as they once were. :)

[mc_squared]

^Yes - thankfully they've disappeared, hopefully never to return!! :P

[shana]

Maybe they're older hehehe :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

Yeah they are older and I don't mind if the don't come back! :cool:

[shana]

I don't mind too.. :D

But i have to find Maximilian Hecker :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

really don't know him.....

[mc_squared]

Neither do I!! :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

you are british...didn't expect anything else :P

[mc_squared]

^Has nothing to do with it!! I've heard of Die Prinzen, and I know THEY are terrible!! :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

:lol: and you heard of Wolfgang Petry!? :P

[shana]

haha :D

I find Die Prinzen are good tho :P

Here's a link if you want to try to listen to Maximilian i like his beat .
http://www.maximilian-hecker.com/

[Gitta Rensolo]

Where are you from shan...don't know your flag!

[shana]

Thailand. :P

[Gitta Rensolo]

Are you kidding????

[shana]

Of course not...

I used to spent almost a year in Germany it was great tho.

and I like british bands that's my problem living over here :P

[cf]

"Die Prinzen" used to be very popular in germany for a long time :)

Just like "Pur". But "Pur" is a 'lil bit better than "Die Prinzen". Do you know that? :)

[Gitta Rensolo]

NO!Pur is definitely NOT better than the Prinzen! :P

[cf]

That's a question of your musical taste ;D

[Gitta Rensolo]

yeah of course.... ;)