Has Rock Stopped Rolling?

[MrLick]

Has Rock Stopped Rolling?

If you live in major markets such as Philadelphia, Miami, Houston or Washington, D.C., the answer seems to be yes. All four cities have recently lost premier rock radio stations as ratings for the genre continue to slide nationwide, down 20% since 1998. What's filling the void? Urban hip-hop stations and Hispanic channels. Spanish-language radio ratings are up 30% since 1998. Meanwhile, hip-hop and R&B dominate today's airwaves. At any moment, only 6% of teens are listening to rock, compared to almost 20% listening to urban stations and 40% listening to Top-40 programming (which is predominantly hip-hop and R&B).

Rolling Stone, 3/24/05

[*Justine*]

I predominately listen to rock music.

[berrywoman]

lately so have I!


thank goodness I have like 5 rock stations to choose from here in NY, but only 1 alternative rock station.. (KROC- 92.3 fm!)

[MrLick]

i like rap and all, but i love rockish music alot more.

[berrywoman]

yea.. me too^ but old school rap... none of that Ja Rule stuff.. lol

[Joss]

I listen to almost anything.

-Hip Hop(Good and Bad), Rock etc.
I dont really focus on one genre,it all works for me.

[Albie]

lately so have I!


thank goodness I have like 5 rock stations to choose from here in NY, but only 1 alternative rock station.. (KROC- 92.3 fm!)

and don't forget

Q104.3 fm

Classic rock :P

[johnny_t]

these facts suck :dozey: wt happened to the world today?...most of the hip-hop singers of the rappers sing stupid songs with no meaningful lyrics, for example take jay-z or ja-rule :confused:
well atleast eminem is sayin wt he feels but still... he says some stupid things too

[berrywoman]

see now I USE TO like Jay Z... back in 95... to me thats when good rap stopped. It must have died or something.. lol the only rapper out right now, who in my opinion is 'saying something' is Common, Kanye, EM (to a certain extent) and thats it.

:cool:

[Joss]

these facts suck :dozey: wt happened to the world today?...most of the hip-hop singers of the rappers sing stupid songs with no meaningful lyrics, for example take jay-z or ja-rule :confused:
well atleast eminem is sayin wt he feels but still... he says some stupid things too

Its all about the flow and of course rhymes.
Jay-z is good at what he does..i cant say anything about the lyrics or the rest of the people you mentioned but i love him.

[Albie]

see now I USE TO like Jay Z... back in 95... to me thats when good rap stopped. It must have died or something.. lol the only rapper out right now, who in my opinion is 'saying something' is Common, Kanye, EM (to a certain extent) and thats it.

:cool:

I disagree

the REAL good rap was back in the 80s :cool:

[berrywoman]

see now I USE TO like Jay Z... back in 95... to me thats when good rap stopped. It must have died or something.. lol the only rapper out right now, who in my opinion is 'saying something' is Common, Kanye, EM (to a certain extent) and thats it.

:cool:

I disagree

the REAL good rap was back in the 80s :cool:


I said it DIED it 95-96.. I never said it was the best. :P

[Albie]

see now I USE TO like Jay Z... back in 95... to me thats when good rap stopped. It must have died or something.. lol the only rapper out right now, who in my opinion is 'saying something' is Common, Kanye, EM (to a certain extent) and thats it.

:cool:

I disagree

the REAL good rap was back in the 80s :cool:


I said it DIED it 95-96.. I never said it was the best. :P

my bad :P

Most of the great rappers came out of New York

I.E. - Boricua's own Big Pun(rest in piece) :cry:, Fat Joe, Jay-Z and etc

[johnny_t]

give me one good jay-z song pls, i would like to listen to it...maybe u guys are right...i didn't know any of them before 95... i heard to some of jay-z's lyrics when he joined with LINKIN PARK (i like them)...linkin park has bueatiful lyrics combined with jay-z bad lyrics :confused: i know wt i'm talkin about, i have the dvd, it has a nice tune but the lyrics dont go together at all...actually from wt lyrics i heard from jay-z such as 99 problems...he is just rhymin with no true meanin

[Joss]

^Any of jiggers songs is a masterpiece.You just have to listen to it carefully.
The beats/The flow..i cant say anything about the lyrics.

Linkin parks lyrics arent the best..its all about a teens life.
What we like to bitch about etc..it doesnt apply to them.


Good Hip Hop i would say consists of

The Roots
Talib Kweli
Black Star
Mos Def
Kanye west


They are the ones to watch.
The real thing

[johnny_t]

could u give me names of songs...i wanna try them out...i am not that rap fan, but i am open minded :)

[Joss]

Sure

If you hate rap/hip hop then i am sure you wont like them though.
Its all about the beats/flow as i keep saying.

Mos Def-Ghetto Rock
Kanye west-Diamonds/Two words
Talib Kweli-Beautiful struggle
Black Star-Brown Skin Lady
The Roots-The Seed 2.0

I love those songs.

[berrywoman]

good choice Joss... :thumbsup: see now thats good rap!! :cool:

[johnny_t]

k goin to download them and listen to them :)
but it is 2 late now...5:30 am :snore:
gonna leave a comment tommrow...be sure to check it out joss ;)
goodnight guys
goodnight laura and thx again :)

cheers...i'm off

[Joss]

Goodnight :)

And i will be sure to check in tomorrow.

[berrywoman]

nice guy that jonny_t... umhmm *nods*

[Sweet One]

goodnight laura and thx again


No problemo Johnny! Take it easy buddy!


nice guy that jonny_t... umhmm *nods*


Yeah, he's swell. :)

[okpathos]

anything really by kanye's good, even some of the ones he doesn't rap on.

but yeah the state of the radio now is just......eck. rock stations are going down, and every other station that isn't rock is turning to hip-hop. luckily in LA we have a good 4 or 5 rock stations, with different variety's, KROQ which plays almost every kind of rock, then there's indie, classic, hard/metal. but all the other stations have turned into 80% hip hop, w/ashley simpson or britney spears on the side

[johnny_t]

nice guy that jonny_t... umhmm *nods*




Quote:

nice guy that jonny_t... umhmm *nods*



Yeah, he's swell.



:blush: thx u guys, u 2 are very sweet aswell :) with a beautiful heart :kiss:

[johnny_t]

Sure

If you hate rap/hip hop then i am sure you wont like them though.
Its all about the beats/flow as i keep saying.

Mos Def-Ghetto Rock
Kanye west-Diamonds/Two words
Talib Kweli-Beautiful struggle
Black Star-Brown Skin Lady
The Roots-The Seed 2.0

I love those songs.


i just downloaded these songs, too bad ur not online atm
well anyways, i am listenin to them now...and i got a tell u, u have a sweet choice :) wt i want to say is that i am still not a big fan for hip hop, but atleast now i feel more comfotable about it...i didn't know of these rappers before..i only knew "kanye west-jesus walks"...but atleast these songs ryhm bueatifully together with the music...the lyrics are a bit deeper and the beat is great to dance to especialy the roots song :nice:, it is wicked (as our british friends say :lol: )...thx alot for the great songs

[Joss]

Aww of course .
Glad you enjoyed them!


Yeah The Seed by the roots is one of my fav songs.
I love the flow

[elementus]

If you're looking for good rap also try out MF Doom / Madvillain. Also Deltron 3030 is a kickass concept album similiar to Gorillaz.

[Shiraz]

Linkin Park made Jay-Z's songs a million times better. 99 Problems absolutely sucked, and then when it was mixed with Points of Authority and One Step Closer, I just completely got hooked on the song! But honestly, rap is only good if you hear it once in a while. Otherwise I just can't stand it.

[johnny_t]

If you're looking for good rap also try out MF Doom / Madvillain. Also Deltron 3030 is a kickass concept album similiar to Gorillaz.

thx m8 d/lin them atm



Linkin Park made Jay-Z's songs a million times better. 99 Problems absolutely sucked, and then when it was mixed with Points of Authority and One Step Closer, I just completely got hooked on the song! But honestly, rap is only good if you hear it once in a while. Otherwise I just can't stand it.

i totaly agre with u
btw, my brother made a website about them (LP)

[Bijeli_Miš]

see now I USE TO like Jay Z... back in 95... to me thats when good rap stopped. It must have died or something.. lol the only rapper out right now, who in my opinion is 'saying something' is Common, Kanye, EM (to a certain extent) and thats it.

:cool:

I disagree

the REAL good rap was back in the 80s :cool:
The child is born without the state of mind, blind to the ways of man kind....

[Professor Peedston]

The Rolling Stone article mentions Philadelphia as one of the cities that lost a "premier rock station" recently. It's really funny to see some of the outrage people have shown. The fired DJ's even started the whole station over online, and started circulating a petition to bring them back, using the ridiculous slogan "You have no alternative!" (meaning that y100 was apparently the ONLY way in Philly to hear "alternative rock") And all of a sudden people who hadn't listened to that station in months were up in arms, furious that it had been replaced by an R & B station. I don't think they disliked R & B, it's just that we had about three stations for that now already.

Anyway, the whole thing was just ridiculous. It's stupid to make a martyr out of a commercial radio station that was the same as all the other ones except playing the same Franz Ferdinand song 10 times a day instead of the same Jay-Z song 10 times a day. I'm not taking sides in the rock vs. hip hop thing that seems to be happening here, I'm just saying commercial radio sucks either way. Which was what the post was originally about. :P

[MrLick]

ya the radio does suck.