The Pope Dies

[gib786]

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope John Paul II, the Polish pontiff who led the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter century and became history's most-traveled pope, died Saturday night in his Vatican apartment. He was 84.

The announcement came from papal spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls and was distributed to journalists via e-mail.

"The Holy Father died this evening at 9:37 p.m. (2:37 p.m. EST) in his private apartment. All the procedures outlined in the apostolic Constitution `Universi Dominici Gregis' that was written by John Paul II on Feb. 22, 1996, have been put in motion."

RIP Pope John Paul II

[Kapone]

RIP

[Albie]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO





:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[busybeeburns]

I don't think we need more than one Pope thread so since this one was first we'll use this :idea2:

[Sidious]

I am in a state of shock :(

[Albie]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Egghead]

He was 84. He's been sick for months. He was dying the last few days. This is a shock?

*is not catholic*

[KEEK1]

yeah I just found out. he was very sick

[Darlene_Ihnfsa]

he was very old and was very ill, my grandparents died more younger than him. but anyways i feel sad now, but i must think he'll be better wherever he goes now. anyways is time to changes, new millenium new changes is life.

[[Zwitterion]]

Was the time for Karol Wojtyla, if there's a heaven that's the right place for him.


Maybe the prince Rainiero is about to follow him

[Manders]

im glad he died in the vatican and not in a hospital. he died where he was meant to. R.i.p :)

[Albie]

:bigcry: :bigcry:

[Jenjie]

I don't think we need more than one Pope thread so since this one was first we'll use this :idea2:

What about the one we started yesterday in The World of Everything Else? Hey?????? :P

[Albie]

I don't think we need more than one Pope thread so since this one was first we'll use this :idea2:

What about the one we started yesterday in The World of Everything Else? Hey?????? :P


that's mines :D

[Egghead]

:bigcry: :bigcry:

we get the picture.

[Albie]

:bigcry: :bigcry:

we get the picture.

do you have any remorse, Kyle ?

or no ?

[Egghead]

:bigcry: :bigcry:
then


that's mines :D

No, not for someone who does this in the same thread.

[Albie]

:bigcry: :bigcry:
then


that's mines :D

No, not for someone who does this in the same thread.

please don't start this in this type of thread :(

[Albie]

SPAM --> http://forum.coldplaying.com/viewtopic.php?t=15710

[KEEK1]

don't start at all. can we have a peacful day! thanks!

[Mojo Pin]

Im not catholic but he was great man who spent his life doing good to others and give us all a magnificent example of faith and courage. Rest in peace

[Sweet One]

Yeah, he's been really sick lately. I thought it was really great when he at least tried to address the crowd that stood outside his window a few days ago. He was a great man. Rest in peace, indeed.

[Bubblehead241]

how old was he? 120?

[Sweet One]

how old was he? 120?


haha..it seems that way..but i think he was 80-something.

[Reilly]

84! DING sorry

[Albie]

He's somewhere safe :cry:

[Sweet One]

84! DING sorry


84..hmm..yeah, that sounds about correct.

Here's a cookie and a lollipop for your vast knowledge. Purple ok?

[Reilly]

PURZURPLE COOKIES :o

maaad

[Sweet One]

Yeah, they're crazy. :)

If you play some really upbeat music, they stand up and do a weird dance. Crazy!

[MrsBerry]

He was 84. He's been sick for months. He was dying the last few days. This is a shock?

*is not catholic*

I´m a catholic, it was a shock to me also... Although I expected it... And I always thought of him as an immortal Pope.
We will never have a Pope like him again :( And now he is in the house of the Father !

Dunno if people knew this, but Brazil is the biggest catholic Country in the world :)

[TimeIsOnYourSide]

He would have lived longer if it wern't for the assasination attempt

[Bubblehead241]

Ddi you know to make sure he was dead they hit him in his head with a hammer?!?!?!

[Sweet One]

Where did you hear that?

[Bubblehead241]

read it in the paper... its true... lol

[TimeIsOnYourSide]

thats true....a silver hammer...to make sure he's not asleep...its papal tradition...since before they had "medical teams"...the head cardinal would call his baptismal name 3 times....then tap his head with a hammer :scholar:

[Bubblehead241]

I think thats really odd

[TimeIsOnYourSide]

indeed....a strange tradition.

[Sweet One]

thats true....a silver hammer...to make sure he's not asleep...its papal tradition...since before they had "medical teams"...the head cardinal would call his baptismal name 3 times....then tap his head with a hammer


OOOOHHH!! i thought she meant like hit him hard!! If it's just a tap, that makes sense!

[TimeIsOnYourSide]

:lol: yes madam.

[Bubblehead241]

it would of been funny if he said.. Ouch! when they hit him.

[Sweet One]

it would of been funny if he said.. Ouch! when they hit him.


Ok, i'm sorry, but joking at a time like this is inappropriate, but that was just damn funny! hahahahaha..good one! hahaha

[TimeIsOnYourSide]

:inquisitive:

[Sweet One]

I know i know..totally inappropriate, but i giggled when I read that? Does that make me the devil?

[Egghead]

They used to tie a bell onto a dead person's finger, in case they were stlll alive.


true story.

[Sweet One]

I knew that. :smug:

[*Justine*]

I just heard the sad news.

[Darlene_Ihnfsa]

im glad he died in the vatican and not in a hospital. he died where he was meant to. R.i.p :)
i think that people want to die where they were born or where they grew up. :/

[weedy_gonzalez]

sad he could not die where he was born and where he grew up.

i`ll never forget the day when he came to visit my hometown in 1999. 500 000 people gathered at the small airport just to find out he wouldn`t come cuz he was sick. 2 days later, early morning they say on tha radio he`s coming, again 500 000 people gathered. it was crazy. masses of people walkin on tha streets, goin in the same direction just to hear him say a few words and see his white helicopter.

he was the 1st pope who said there was no barrier between christianity and other religions.

i`ll miss him dearly but at the same time i`m happy he`s in a better place and free from suffering.

RIP my hommie

[el_scorcho]

I heard the news yesterday..very sad :( R.I.P

[Terra]

The news is sad, I'm not religious but my thoughts for everyone else that shared feelings for the pope. I'm trying not to wreck the thread for everyone that is religious :)

[Jae]

i went to mass today..for a christianing. i thought the priest was going to cry :(

[noni]

He chose a religian life and he was the head of the Catholicism so I think he has a great life in spite of his sickness the last years.
Hope he is fine wherever he is...

[Jae]

i found his approach and the churches to it all...a little strange

[weedy_gonzalez]

he broke the boundaries, crossed the line

[*Justine*]

Did anyone here see him at World Youth Day? My parents went to that in Toronto, I did not however.

[weedy_gonzalez]

my gosh, my mom just told me that our neighbour gave birth to a daughter YESTERDAY! :stunned:

[Bubblehead241]

thats true....a silver hammer...to make sure he's not asleep...its papal tradition...since before they had "medical teams"...the head cardinal would call his baptismal name 3 times....then tap his head with a hammer


OOOOHHH!! i thought she meant like hit him hard!! If it's just a tap, that makes sense!

*High fives Laura*


Anyway, I dunno the big deal about this dude, hes just a person who died and everyone makes a big deal about it?

[weedy_gonzalez]

well maybe becuz he did a lot to humanity. :idea2:

[Bubblehead241]

I dont get it.

[weedy_gonzalez]

then read this. and it`s only a small part of what he`s done.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050403/325/ffks5.html

and

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050403/325/ffknp.html

he was also the 1st pope who said it doesn`t matter if you`re catholic or buddhist or whatever, we all should be united.

you don`t understand cuz you never been struck by the power of the guy.

[weedy_gonzalez]

power and love and faith and hope

[*Justine*]

thats true....a silver hammer...to make sure he's not asleep...its papal tradition...since before they had "medical teams"...the head cardinal would call his baptismal name 3 times....then tap his head with a hammer


OOOOHHH!! i thought she meant like hit him hard!! If it's just a tap, that makes sense!

*High fives Laura*


Anyway, I dunno the big deal about this dude, hes just a person who died and everyone makes a big deal about it?

Some dude? You are arrogant.

[Bubblehead241]

You do not know me well enough to start calling me names... So your judging me.

[weedy_gonzalez]

did you read the articles i gave you links to?

[*Justine*]

You do not know me well enough to start calling me names... So your judging me.

I am judging the comment that you made, the Pope is one of the most known figures on the planet and you are calling him "some dude". What do you live under a rock?

Oh nevermind, you are 14, I am not going to waste my time talking to a kid.

[weedy_gonzalez]

:lol:

[musiclover]

yep, he was old and he ruled for a long long time.

[Reilly]

84. Ruled for nearly 27 years.

[musiclover]

yep.

well, i'm not catholic, and i guess i'm not too religious for this to affect me in any emotional sorta way.

[bart]

This is big news ... I guess I have never gave him credit for what changes he made in the world.... he was a Ok man, even though I got brought up in a prosesdant household and he was made out to be the devil he never did me anything wrong...

[Bubblehead241]

did you read the articles i gave you links to?

no.... lol didn't feel like wasting the time.. sorry.


And Justine... You may be the first person on my ignore list.

[*Justine*]

Maybe if you actually read what people said about the Pope in this thread, you would not have made such comments about him, but that is asking too much of you.

Go ahead ignore me, like I care.

[Sweet One]

Did anyone here see him at World Youth Day? My parents went to that in Toronto, I did not however.


I went. My parents wanted me to, so I did. It rained like a bitch at first. I was soaking wet...and then it stopped.


Anyway, I dunno the big deal about this dude, hes just a person who died and everyone makes a big deal about it?


Alright, see this is where I draw the line. He's not some dude..he's only the leader of 1.1 billion catholics around the world. No big deal? That's a huge deal.

[Bubblehead241]

Maybe if you actually read what people said about the Pope in this thread, you would not have made such comments about him, but that is asking too much of you.

Go ahead ignore me, like I care.

People make him out to be a god, hes not god, there is only one God, and hes not him, and catholics,( And the pope was a catholic) They pray to "Mary" and other idols which is a graven image, So that means that since The Pope was a catholic he prayed to Mary and Other idols, the Bible says (Exodus 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, There are more chapters too.. ah, heres a good one, (Leviticus 26:1) Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, niether rear you up a standing image, niether shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. The Bible says, For I am the Lord your God, And I dont think the Pope wrote the Bible if im not mistaking, Now, Since the Bible says in like a hundred different places that Bowing down to idols is an abomination, and The Pope bowed down to idols, The Bible is always right, so you cant say im wrong casue im quoteing out of the Bible.

[Sweet One]

OH WOW!! Quoting the Bible! I'm sorry, but that might not be the best excuse. The Bible has some things in there that are pretty ridiculous.

And Catholics don't make the Pope out to be a god. They don't see him as that. They see him as a leader, which they respect.

[Albie]

then how come, they bow down to him and kiss his feet ? :confused:

[Albie]

then how come, they bow down to him and kiss his feet ? :confused:

[Sweet One]

They very rarely kiss his feet. They bow down to him as a sign of respect. Why do people courtsey when they meet royalty? It's along the same lines. It's just a gesture of respect.

[Albie]

They very rarely kiss his feet. They bow down to him as a sign of respect. Why do people courtsey when they meet royalty? It's along the same lines. It's just a gesture of respect.

why can they just cheer his name ? :/

then in that case, why people dont kiss Bush's feet ?

[Sweet One]

Albie, stop being obnoxious. No one kisses Bush's feet.

And they do cheer his name. But bowing down is much more eloquent that a random holla! :rolleyes:

[Albie]

Albie, stop being obnoxious. No one kisses Bush's feet.

And they do cheer his name. But bowing down is much more eloquent that a random holla! :rolleyes:


read my previous post again, I worded that wrong :cool:

[Sweet One]

Because Bush is a leader of a country, the Pope is a leader of a faith. It's what they believe.

[Albie]

Because Bush is a leader of a country, the Pope is a leader of a faith. It's what they believe.

I still it's wrong, Bubblehead has a point :smug:

[Sweet One]

She makes a point, but using the Bible as a reference for it. She loses points on that one with me.

[Albie]

She makes a point, but using the Bible as a reference for it. She loses points on that one with me.

why ?

[Sweet One]

Because the Bible can be pretty hypocritical at times.

[Albie]

Because the Bible can be pretty hypocritical at times.

what are you saying ?


btw, are you a christian ?

I don't wanna get too personal :(

[Sweet One]

I'm a Catholic...a non-practicing catholic, but I just think Bubblehead's comments were inappropriate at this time.

[berrywoman]

Maybe if you actually read what people said about the Pope in this thread, you would not have made such comments about him, but that is asking too much of you.

Go ahead ignore me, like I care.

People make him out to be a god, hes not god, there is only one God, and hes not him, and catholics,( And the pope was a catholic) They pray to "Mary" and other idols which is a graven image, So that means that since The Pope was a catholic he prayed to Mary and Other idols, the Bible says (Exodus 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, There are more chapters too.. ah, heres a good one, (Leviticus 26:1) Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, niether rear you up a standing image, niether shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. The Bible says, For I am the Lord your God, And I dont think the Pope wrote the Bible if im not mistaking, Now, Since the Bible says in like a hundred different places that Bowing down to idols is an abomination, and The Pope bowed down to idols, The Bible is always right, so you cant say im wrong casue im quoteing out of the Bible.


as Catholics.. we dont 'idolize' any saint or statue or 'person' such as the Pope. The Pope is the 'symbolic' leader of our faith chosen to do God's work here on earth. People bow or kneel to him in the same way people used to do when Jesus romed the earth... because the Pope is just that.. a 'representative'.. as for the Bible... I dont follow that.. because God only knows how many times that thing has been translated and how many times scriptures have been left out or added...

my final thought on this.. try tp be a bit more sensitive to others on the board who have felt such grief in the passing of the Pope.. you may mot know how deep his death may have affected others. I know you are entitled to your opinions.. all I ask is that you 'try' to be a bit more sensitive... religion is a touchy subject...

[Sweet One]

Oh Camu. You slay me. :kiss: :kiss:

*wraps up her heart and gives it to Camille in a pretty box* :blush:

[berrywoman]

:blush: :kiss:





oh and.... RIP Pope John Paul II

I went to church today.. I havent been there in AGES!! and lit a candle for him. :cry: stange how faith works.. I dont practice it much either..

[Sweet One]

Yeah, I stopped going to church like 4 years ago. But I go during holidays and stuff.

[*Justine*]

Even when you ignore someone, you can still see their posts when they are quoted? that's not cool. :angry:

[berrywoman]

hmm I think I know who you are refering to.. but unfortunately.. I dont think there is anything we can do about that... :embarrased:

[Mojo Pin]

Maybe if you actually read what people said about the Pope in this thread, you would not have made such comments about him, but that is asking too much of you.

Go ahead ignore me, like I care.

People make him out to be a god, hes not god, there is only one God, and hes not him, and catholics,( And the pope was a catholic) They pray to "Mary" and other idols which is a graven image, So that means that since The Pope was a catholic he prayed to Mary and Other idols, the Bible says (Exodus 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, There are more chapters too.. ah, heres a good one, (Leviticus 26:1) Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, niether rear you up a standing image, niether shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. The Bible says, For I am the Lord your God, And I dont think the Pope wrote the Bible if im not mistaking, Now, Since the Bible says in like a hundred different places that Bowing down to idols is an abomination, and The Pope bowed down to idols, The Bible is always right, so you cant say im wrong casue im quoteing out of the Bible.
Im not catholic but i do respect what the pope ,as a man, has done, its not like 'wasting time' to check out the links and find out what he did in life but for what i read (quoted above) i understand you are not catholic? neither am i since my family is evangelic or something, not quite sure .

Im not a very religious person like go to church every sunday and such , in fact i think religion wont save you in the end but your faith in god (if you believe in god at all that is).
What i hate about non-catholic religions is that they tend to diss or look down on other religions or anything that goes against their belief , i so know that because i have this crazy cousin who is always telling me im gonna go to hell and how all the religions are wrong and even quoted the bible to show me how catholics are going to hell blah blah blah :rolleyes: and i just think he's a narrow-minded prick.

Anyways, i just think this isnt the place to argue about these things, if you dont have anything nice to say about the pope then dont say a word, all i know he was a great human being and will be missed for the acts of good he did in life. I admire him and respect him and im not even catholic ..uh huh, that's about it.

[*Justine*]

^ well said Ren.

[labell]

RIP he was a good Pope, up for anything.

Ex.

http://u2log.com/archive/pope_in_bonos_shades.jpg

[MAFE]

you're right ren!

[frogbuttgirlie]

i think he is very wrong about the use of condoms when you think about hoe Aids is spreading in places like Africa

[Reilly]

I agree with Ren.

But the very point that someone has to challenge the Pope and his relevance in a thread dedicated to us passing our respects to him. Its like so what if you think people see him as more important then he was, he was a great, brave man and deserves praises from those who respect him.

Its not like he went around declaring he was God himself or anything.

[berrywoman]

i think he is very wrong about the use of condoms when you think about hoe Aids is spreading in places like Africa



what is the point of this??? and how does it relate to the Pope?? Are you taking a piss??

[Reilly]

PSssst the pope didnt believe in the use of condoms.

[berrywoman]

PSssst the pope didnt believe in the use of condoms.



right.. he also didnt believe in any other form of 'man made' birth control... it still doesnt take away from what a great man he was. Like I mentioned before... I dont agree with ALOT of things the church says.. (abortion, homosexuality, birth control etc..) but it still doesnt change my view on the Pope.. he was a great religious leader.. and his shoes will be difficult to fill.

[berrywoman]

they are currently moving his body to St Peter's Basilica... quite impressive.. and sad. :cry:

[weedy_gonzalez]

Maybe if you actually read what people said about the Pope in this thread, you would not have made such comments about him, but that is asking too much of you.

Go ahead ignore me, like I care.

People make him out to be a god, hes not god, there is only one God, and hes not him, and catholics,( And the pope was a catholic) They pray to "Mary" and other idols which is a graven image, So that means that since The Pope was a catholic he prayed to Mary and Other idols, the Bible says (Exodus 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, There are more chapters too.. ah, heres a good one, (Leviticus 26:1) Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, niether rear you up a standing image, niether shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. The Bible says, For I am the Lord your God, And I dont think the Pope wrote the Bible if im not mistaking, Now, Since the Bible says in like a hundred different places that Bowing down to idols is an abomination, and The Pope bowed down to idols, The Bible is always right, so you cant say im wrong casue im quoteing out of the Bible.

like justine said, go and educate yourself a lil bit on the topic and then come back and post comments. hopefully they`ll make some more sense :)

[weedy_gonzalez]

i think he is very wrong about the use of condoms when you think about hoe Aids is spreading in places like Africa

he was also against people having casual sex for that matter.

[Bubblehead241]

Because the Bible can be pretty hypocritical at times.

No its not, and theres no talking sence into you, We'll just see whos right in the end.

Thanks Albie. :D

[berrywoman]

so much knowledge at 14.. :rolleyes:

[MAFE]

i think he is very wrong about the use of condoms when you think about hoe Aids is spreading in places like Africa

he was also against people having casual sex for that matter.


casual sex causes venereal diseases...watch out with the herpes and gonorrea! mwwahahahahha :smartass:

[Bubblehead241]

so much knowledge at 14.. :rolleyes:

hey! you have no idea how close my family is to the Lord, And yes, I do have alot of knowledge about this stuff.

[kevvvy]

right.. he also didnt believe in any other form of 'man made' birth control... it still doesnt take away from what a great man he was. Like I mentioned before... I dont agree with ALOT of things the church says.. (abortion, homosexuality, birth control etc..) but it still doesnt change my view on the Pope.. he was a great religious leader.. and his shoes will be difficult to fill.



Well said. I'm not a religious person at all though I was brought up a Roman Catholic. Wasn't sure what to make of a lot of the Pope's views however I did respect him for his strength and for not being afraid to upset people to gain progress. And also for getting a pair of shades off of Bono :lol:

Anyway I sat in Bellahouston Park, Glasgow on Sunday morning. They have a white wall there dedicated to his visit to that park in 1982. I remember it being a scorcher and I also got the day off school (yayyyyyy! ). I was just curious as to what sort of tributes, if any, had been left there. Its right on the top of a small hill and I must have sat there for about an hour watching people coming and going and paying their respects and praying. It was pretty humbling really if I'm totally honest. I think the best thing anyone can say about him is that he really believed and tried to make the world a better and safer place for us and for our kids. He brought religions together where they were divided before.

Next time I'm in that park it will be the Coldplay gig!!

[Sweet One]

No its not, and theres no talking sence into you, We'll just see whos right in the end.


Yeah, there's absolutely no way to talk "sence" into me. :)

[berrywoman]

No its not, and theres no talking sence into you, We'll just see whos right in the end.


Yeah, there's absolutely no way to talk "sence" into me. :)



:lol: :lol: I love you!!

[Sweet One]

And I, you. :lol:

[Albie]

so much knowledge at 14.. :rolleyes:

hey! you have no idea how close my family is to the Lord, And yes, I do have alot of knowledge about this stuff.

I'm the same way :smug:

[Bubblehead241]

lol Albie... are you a "Christian?"

[Albie]

lol Albie... are you a "Christian?"

yes I am.......I go to a Baptist Church :wink3:

[Bubblehead241]

oh... I dont go to a church.. lol

[Albie]

oh... I dont go to a church.. lol

oh :/

well I do, God is a good God :smug:

[Bubblehead241]

there is only one God.

[Albie]

there is only one God.

yes, indeed :cool:

[Reilly]

there is only one God.

Hmmm or ZERO Gods :rolleyes:

[Albie]

there is only one God.

Hmmm or ZERO Gods :rolleyes:


:angry:

[berrywoman]

:rolleyes:

[Reilly]

What he do? Meh.

[Sweet One]

I think Reilly's a god. Is that wrong of me to think that? :cool:

[Albie]

no way :dozey:

[Reilly]

It would be wrong to think OTHERWISE :stunned:

Laura you can be Gods representative for Earth *Bless you*

[Albie]

:rolleyes:

[Darlene_Ihnfsa]

i want to have same right on womens religious stuff... but i think women won't be considered at same level as men. :dozey:

well i think you must believe in anything sometimes in your life.. you can call it God, (or believe in some Gods), or you can believe in somebody (words or acts) or may be you can believe just a book. :idea2: but i think this three ways have differents names... :idea2: but the result is the same. :)

[Reilly]

Well according to the bible (Which is the funniest phrase ever) women were made out of the rib of man. So if you want to be a good Christian you'll have to pretend you're living in Germany under HITLER

Are people only realising Christianity is totally fucked now?

[Egghead]

Well according to the bible (Which is the funniest phrase ever) women were made out of the rib of man. So if you want to be a good Christian you'll have to pretend you're living in Germany under HITLER

Are people only realising Christianity is totally fucked now?

shame, innit?

[Sweet One]

Laura you can be Gods representative for Earth *Bless you*


Bless you, child. :)

[Reilly]

Thanks me sneeeezy :cool:

Yes Kyle, its a daaaaamn shame.

[berrywoman]

:stunned:

[Angel at his table]

RIP Karol Wojtyla :cry:

[Birdo]

well I think we all have a personal Jesus. I think there is a god. And my opinion is that we dont need a pope.

[Bubblehead241]

And my opinion is that we dont need a pope.


I agree with that..

[Ambergris]

What about prince Rainier? he's gone too

[berrywoman]

And my opinion is that we dont need a pope.


I agree with that..

shall we get rid of the Dhali Lama as well?? He's a spiritual leader as well..

[Bubblehead241]

sure. :P

[*Justine*]

At last Friday's U2 show, Bono dedicated the song "40" to the Pope and at the end of the song he hung the rosary the Pope had given him 5 years ago on the mic stand. A single spotlight remained on the mic stand as he walked off stage and then rest of the band walked off. Very moving.

Here's a pic (I didn't take this picture):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/evansevans/Bonorosary.jpg

[Bubblehead241]

I've never like U2

[*Justine*]

^ Good thing I can't see the smark remark that you made... :lol:

[Sweet One]

:lol:

God bless the ignore button!

That's very moving, indeed.

[berrywoman]

Goes to show you how class Bono and the lads are... they have 'respect'... amazing what a bit of that can do...

Justine- *applaudes* ;)

[Jae]

i'd quite like to go to the funeral.

[berrywoman]

I saw him (Pope) still laid out this morning on tv... I know he's been dead for quite some time now.. but, this morning he looked more lifeless than ever... :cry: I know.. he cant possibly be more dead.. but its just sad. :cry:

[Albie]

:cry:

[*Justine*]

The funeral is tommorrow. If I can, I will probably watch it.

[Sweet One]

Doesn't it start 3:30 am eastern time? :stunned:

[*Justine*]

Does it?

[Sweet One]

Yeah, that's what I saw on CTV.

[*Justine*]

OK, I will have to look into this. I have an exam tommorrow too.

[Sweet One]

Oh ok, it's at 3:30 am live, and they're gonna re-air it at 9 am.

[*Justine*]

9am on friday?

[Sweet One]

Yup. On Global, i believe.

[Reilly]

PEE

[Sweet One]

No.

Poo.

[berrywoman]

Yea.. I am actually going to bed early tonight so I can 'try' to watch it at 4am!! :embarrased:

[Sweet One]

Hmmm...i'll probably be up that early anyway, doing my last minute assignments for my classes.

[Bubblehead241]

Its really sad when people die! I've never had someone die in my family... But one of the cats we had (Loony) died casue he had bladder stones... that was so sad... Im still get real sad when I thinka bout it.

[*Justine*]

Laura, citytv has the funeral special on at 4am tommorrow (so really early Saturday morning).

[owenrees_73]

i have a tragic death story but id rather not talk about it, he was 17

[Sweet One]

citytv has the funeral special


Don't get city tv in quebec. :(

[_Broken_Doll_]

omg are you in Montreal now???

hoom i dunno if i should stay up until early this morning watching the funeral, or if i should just watch the re aired one at 9am...

[Sweet One]

omg are you in Montreal now???


i am, indeed. :lol:

[_Broken_Doll_]

hey woman!! where is you??

ohhhh im stalking you mwahahha :lol: :lol: joke joke :P

[Sweet One]

I live in downtown...near that McGill University place. hahahaha :lol:

[_Broken_Doll_]

oh damn you im in the Rosemont district lol

[Sweet One]

oh damn you im in the Rosemont district lol


Rosemont! My friend lives there! That's near the Pie-IX metro, right? :/

[_Broken_Doll_]

ya kinda far up.....

[Sweet One]

Coooool. :cool:

[*Justine*]

Oh, n/m.

[*Justine*]

I am watching the ceremony now , I am taping it too in case I fall asleep.

[Reilly]

Pretty good ceremony. Whole lot a singing and praising, no dancing though.

If he was a black pope, there would have definately been dancing.

[frogbuttgirlie]

you watched it? christ

[Reilly]

Yeah. Why not?

Y'know catholic, christian or not, I have the option of watching Trisha, or the option of watching the spirutual leader to billions of people for over 25 years get buried. Hmmm...

[frogbuttgirlie]

up to you, dont get so defensive
just it seemed to drag on

[bart]

A song for the man !!

Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.
But my hand was made strong
By the 'and of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
Won't you help to sing
These songs of freedom? -
'Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our minds.
Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them can stop the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look? Ooh!
Some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fulfil de book.

Won't you help to sing
These songs of freedom? -
'Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.
---
/Guitar break/
---
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.
Wo! Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them-a can-a stop-a the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fulfil de book.
Won't you help to sing
Dese songs of freedom? -
'Cause all I ever had:
Redemption songs -
All I ever had:
Redemption songs:
These songs of freedom,
Songs of freedom.

[Reilly]

:rolleyes: Sorry, didnt realise I was getting so defensive.

[frogbuttgirlie]

meh, its your choice

[Lolly Pop]

i watched the ceremony, i found it very moving

[_Broken_Doll_]

i hope the fing taped it...is there supposed to be a re-run playing at 9AM or somefing? because its 10AM now...

[berrywoman]

woke up at 430am to see it live... was indeed very sad.. I can't believe its over... well.. such is life.. we live, we die.. he's in heaven now.


RIP.

[*Justine*]

you watched it? christ

Yes, christ was why I watched it.

[berrywoman]

you watched it? christ

Yes, christ was why I watched it.


:lol:

[Sweet One]

i hope the fing taped it...is there supposed to be a re-run playing at 9AM or somefing? because its 10AM now...


There was supposed to be a re-airing at 9am on Global.

[Sweet One]

woke up at 430am to see it live... was indeed very sad.. I can't believe its over... well.. such is life.. we live, we die.. he's in heaven now.


RIP.


I woke up at 5 am to watch part of it. It was sad.

[berrywoman]

woke up at 430am to see it live... was indeed very sad.. I can't believe its over... well.. such is life.. we live, we die.. he's in heaven now.


RIP.


I woke up at 5 am to watch part of it. It was sad.


did you cry??? I did... :embarrased: especially when the pall bearers(sp) picked up the coffin.. and were walking back to the church.. and then they turned around.. :embarrased: as if to give him one last look at St Peter's Square... :cry: :cry:

[Sweet One]

did you cry??? I did... especially when the pall bearers(sp) picked up the coffin.. and were walking back to the church.. and then they turned around.. as if to give him one last look at St Peter's Square...


I SAW THAT! Yeah, that was sad. Mind you, I was pretty tired and wasn't sure what was going on, but it was sad.

[*Justine*]

I was amazed by how simple his coffin was.

[weedy_gonzalez]

i wish i could be in mah homeland now with mah people :confused:

[*Justine*]

Yes, during the funeral last night, they were showing people in Poland. Apparently the people there got the day off work so that they could pray for the pope.

And I noticed a lot of Polish flags in the Vatican too.

[weedy_gonzalez]

yap, even the supermarkets in poland are closed :stunned:

[berrywoman]

I was amazed by how simple his coffin was.


thats the traditional coffin the Vatican uses for all deceased Popes. :cry:

[BlissfullyMuse]

I just watched the funeral and wow what a service, it was really nice and its good to know hes resting in peace now

[berrywoman]

for anyone who is interested.. CNN is replaying todays service....

[Sweet One]

Thanks Camu.

[berrywoman]

did I mention its on right now.. :embarrased: I think I've seen this like 3x already.... but I cant stop watching.. :cry:

[busybeeburns]

I gave up watching last Saturday :dozey:

[berrywoman]

I gave up watching last Saturday :dozey:


:confused: yea, well.. I admit... this has gotten extensive coverage.. and I am happy its now all over... the man is buried now.. and at peace.. but, I was the same way with Princess Di when she died. I couldnt stop watching.. :stunned:

still sad.. sad indeed.

[Sweet One]

yea, well.. I admit... this has gotten extensive coverage.. and I am happy its now all over... the man is buried now.. and at peace.. but, I was the same way with Princess Di when she died. I couldnt stop watching..


Yeah, i was the same with Princess Diana. I stayed up till 5:30am watching random specials on her on the CBC. So strange.

[Lolly Pop]

now the Pope is buried, all we'll here about now in the uk is the elections :dozey: *yawn*

[berrywoman]

now the Pope is buried, all we'll here about now in the uk is the elections :dozey: *yawn*


OHH and the wedding!! they are having overage all day Saturday here.. lol

[Lolly Pop]

thank god im working tomorrow!, i cant stand that big eared baboon and that horse of a fiancee :P

[berrywoman]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

he can't be King now, can he?? whats the deal with that??

[Lolly Pop]

i think it's when the queen pops her clogs thats when hes king,and then when he passes away Prince William will be King :sneaky:

[berrywoman]

I heard he can't become king because he's remarried....

[Lolly Pop]

ooooo scandal! i dont know what will happen now!?

[Sweet One]

when the queen pops her clogs


my new saying! love it! :lol:

[musiclover]

why is it such a big deal that some man died?? i don't get it, really. i mean, he was elected as pope by his fellow cardinals.

nobody likes to say bad things after someone dies, but all this glorification of this pope is kinda too much, really. :dozey:

i mean, this guy goes to Brazil and tells of the 7th Day Adventists and Southern Baptists and others that they're "foxes" preying on his catholic "sheep." :rolleyes:

then, he goes to india and tells his bishops and others to "harvest" the souls of hindus who're living in darkness and who're heathens.... so basically, he's a partisan among all others like him, who're only concerned about increasing the numbers of their own followers.

[Sweet One]

Ya know. I find it incredibly disrepectful for you to come on here and to bad mouth a dead person that we're all mourning. hahaha..that's just so crazy!! CRAZY!!

[berrywoman]

why is it such a big deal that some man died?? i don't get it, really. i mean, he was elected as pope by his fellow cardinals.

nobody likes to say bad things after someone dies, but all this glorification of this pope is kinda too much, really. :dozey:

i mean, this guy goes to Brazil and tells of the 7th Day Adventists and Southern Baptists and others that they're "foxes" preying on his catholic "sheep." :rolleyes:

then, he goes to india and tells his bishops and others to "harvest" the souls of hindus who're living in darkness and who're heathens.... so basically, he's a partisan among all others like him, who're only concerned about increasing the numbers of their own followers.


if this is true... I wonder why they all saw it fit to go to his funeral???

[Lolly Pop]

when the queen pops her clogs


my new saying! love it! :lol:

:D

[berrywoman]

AND ANOTHER THING musiclover...

he was just a man, yes... but a man with a greater purpose who was called upon by a higher being to be the spiritual leader of the catholic religion. He also helped liberate countries, and spread the message of love and faith throughout... he wasnt just some Joe Schmoe from the corner store who wore fancy robes.. he's bigger than that. A man who overcame such adversities in his life... and felt it was his duty to serve God in the best way he knew how.... maybe you're not very spiritual... and thats cool.. but dont knock something you dont understand.

[Reilly]

It was amazing that the Pope had lived to the age of being up for the running, incredibly amazing that he was legible for qualifying for it, and theres no words for how he actually became pope. He was the biggest underdog, and being from Poland, he did amazingly well.

[Sweet One]

My point with musiclover is merely the fact that his remark could be taken very personally by those who are mourning him. Just let people deal with his death in their own way, just leave them be.

[berrywoman]

here here!! *raises glass*

[Reilly]

*SMASHES glass* WHEEEHEEEH hooooo whooo cookie cooo what.

[Sweet One]

:cool: :kiss:

[berrywoman]

*SMASHES glass* WHEEEHEEEH hooooo whooo cookie cooo what.

wait til I punch you in that 'pretty little face of yours' :angry:


:P :lol: :kiss:

[Reilly]

Oh no! New York boxa! :stunned:

[*Justine*]

Yah, I don't know why people get so defenseful about not liking the guy, if you didnt think he was important and you want to come in here and bad mouth people, just don't bother. We are all in here for a reason.

[musiclover]

why is it such a big deal that some man died?? i don't get it, really. i mean, he was elected as pope by his fellow cardinals.

nobody likes to say bad things after someone dies, but all this glorification of this pope is kinda too much, really. :dozey:

i mean, this guy goes to Brazil and tells of the 7th Day Adventists and Southern Baptists and others that they're "foxes" preying on his catholic "sheep." :rolleyes:

then, he goes to india and tells his bishops and others to "harvest" the souls of hindus who're living in darkness and who're heathens.... so basically, he's a partisan among all others like him, who're only concerned about increasing the numbers of their own followers.


if this is true... I wonder why they all saw it fit to go to his funeral???


it's all politics, really. They all try to "see and be seen". Why else would the Iranian prez go to the pope's funeral?

i also don't get why *American* flag needs to fly at half-mast because the head of some religion died?! last i checked, americans didn't pledge allegiance to Rome....

[*Justine*]

It's not because of Rome, its in general respect, flags were down all over the world.

[musiclover]

AND ANOTHER THING musiclover...

he was just a man, yes... but a man with a greater purpose who was called upon by a higher being to be the spiritual leader of the catholic religion. He also helped liberate countries, and spread the message of love and faith throughout... he wasnt just some Joe Schmoe from the corner store who wore fancy robes.. he's bigger than that. A man who overcame such adversities in his life... and felt it was his duty to serve God in the best way he knew how.... maybe you're not very spiritual... and thats cool.. but dont knock something you dont understand.


in fact, i am spiritual. and that's why i hate all this pomp and circumstance over one guy. and in fact, i know and understand it all (i heard his biography, and have read about his deeds), that's why i'm more circumspect about it and also cynical.

this guy wants to plant catholicism in Asia...asks like a dozen countries to invite him...all turn him down...except for India. He goes to India. Now, in India, Catholic Portugese and Spaniards ran the Inquisition against the locals just as the Inquisition was run in Europe. Thousands upon thousands were killed in the name of the pope and of his religion. Knowing this history, and knowing how this pope apologized to the native Americans in South America when he visited there, he was politely asked that he apologize. Not only he didn't apologize, he angered the Hindus by asking his bishops and cardinals to turn his gracious hosts--the Hindus and Muslims and Sikhs and Jains and Parsis of India--into Catholics.

I hate such bigots!


he may have done good for his followers, but that's about it. I can understand that the (observant) Catholics will mourn him. But to me, he was just another in an unbroken line of popes...men among men just like other men, who used religion to divide humanity...

and by the way, the election of a pope isn't decided by some "god" in some "heaven", but by like 100+ cardinals, who are all thinking about how to increase the reach of Catholic church at the detriment of all other religions and faiths of humanity. This last pope got elected because he was from Poland...and Poland was smack in the middle of Cold War politics.

I bet you the new pope will be some guy from Africa or South America, since that's where catholic converts are being found. Or perhaps even from Asia/India....if they can have a guy that looks like those Africans or Asians or South Americans, it'll be more easy to convert those folks.

I wonder why this 'God' never wants to get a female pope.

I also wonder how the center of catholicism is in Rome...is it because of mere politics, that the Roman empire was where the pot of gold and the earthly power was...that's how the bishop of Rome got to be the earthly prince of "the" church... I wonder how in about 2000 years of recorded history, no dissenter's voice was allowed to come in the way of the power of the Roman bishop.

[musiclover]

It's not because of Rome, its in general respect, flags were down all over the world.

since when did Americans (that too G.W.!! lol) care what the rest of the world did.

[musiclover]

Ya know. I find it incredibly disrepectful for you to come on here and to bad mouth a dead person that we're all mourning. hahaha..that's just so crazy!! CRAZY!!

like i said, i realize its bad for criticizing him (legitimate criticism, not "badmouthing" like you put it) after he's dead. but my overarching point is/was that he's just some head of a religion...he did most of the things that were good for his religion and for his posterity, not out of the greatness of his heart of anything.

so i just don't see what the big deal is for America to officially mourn his passing. Americans (and others) are of course welcome to privately mourn (even that is kinda weird from my viewpoint, but that's just me), but I don't know if American government should be involved the way it is.

It's all G.W.'s fault!! now that's crazy!! lol

[musiclover]

just to be clear, i'm just cynical about any fellow man/woman who is all powerful and is going to tell me what's moral and immoral, or what's right and wrong. this goes for leaders of all faiths who get to be so powerful. unfortunately (or fortunately), only the catholics have such a pyramid of power, on top of which sits the pope. i thought pious and religious people didn't care for earthly power...to me, true godly people are happy just to be instruments of peace and love. Mahatma Gandhi comes to mind as a great example....he even gave up wearing suits.... compare that to the pictures of the pope visiting africa in his flowing white robes while the natives are half-naked!


just a side-note: this pope, thanks to him being all-powerful, may also be responsible for the spread of AIDS in Africa during his papacy (because of his policy of being anti-condom).

[busybeeburns]

why is it such a big deal that some man died?? i don't get it, really. i mean, he was elected as pope by his fellow cardinals.

nobody likes to say bad things after someone dies, but all this glorification of this pope is kinda too much, really. :dozey:

i mean, this guy goes to Brazil and tells of the 7th Day Adventists and Southern Baptists and others that they're "foxes" preying on his catholic "sheep." :rolleyes:

then, he goes to india and tells his bishops and others to "harvest" the souls of hindus who're living in darkness and who're heathens.... so basically, he's a partisan among all others like him, who're only concerned about increasing the numbers of their own followers.

84 years of shit-stirring

[musiclover]

:/ R.I.P, nonetheless.

let's just move on....

[Sweet One]

oh musiclover. That was like....whoa. :smug:

[*Justine*]

It's not because of Rome, its in general respect, flags were down all over the world.

since when did Americans (that too G.W.!! lol) care what the rest of the world did.

Well, I guess he cared enough, he was at the funeral.

[busybeeburns]

It's not because of Rome, its in general respect, flags were down all over the world.

since when did Americans (that too G.W.!! lol) care what the rest of the world did.

Well, I guess he cared enough, he was at the funeral.

bollocks, that was all about public show

[berrywoman]

It's not because of Rome, its in general respect, flags were down all over the world.

since when did Americans (that too G.W.!! lol) care what the rest of the world did.

Well, I guess he cared enough, he was at the funeral.

bollocks, that was all about public show

this is true... I hate my president.. he's a total knob...


as for bad mouthing the pope.. thats where I find it a bit disrespectful... he was a mere mortal, like the rest of us.. yes.. but he was a Ponificate of MY religion... can you get that thru your head.. MY, I never looked up to him as some god or anything.. I just had some respect for a man who lived his entire life for something he believed in.. and helped make the world a better place.. (in some places, he was successful)

YOUR opinions are your own, but dont disrespect me or my faith because YOU dont happen to believe in the Catholic religion.. Like I have said MANY times before.. I dont agree with the chruch... they are as crooked as any other organization.. driven by politics as well... but I would never doubt my faith in God. period.

[musiclover]

I'm not asking you to doubt your faith in god. Since you agree that its about politics and power, I guess you do know/realize that the position of "pope" has really nothing to do with one's faith in God. I don't know if the pope equals religion to you. I know many god-fearing catholics who actually don't give a damn what one guy who people call 'pope' thinks about gays or condoms or premarital sex or anything else.

I never meant to disrespect or question anyone's faith in god.

On a side-note, you might be very interested in reading "Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas" by Elain Pagels (Princeton University).

(03) Jesus says: (1) "If those who lead you say to you: ?Look, the kingdom is in the sky!? then the birds of the sky will precede you. (2) If they say to you: ?It is in the sea,? then the fishes will precede you. (3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you." (4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father. (5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."


it's mind-blowing stuff! :cool:

[berrywoman]

sounds interesting... after I finish the new Harry Potter I'll give it a go..


I truly view him (the pope) as a representative, thats all. But I think he lived an amazing life.. thats all.

[musiclover]

actually, i find it surprizing that me wondering what a big deal is about pope's passing makes me somehow disrespect people on here or their faith/religion. i mean, really... it's actually mistyfying how anyone with just a little contrarian view is asked to shut up and is called names.

[berrywoman]

did I call you a name??? I just thought your demeanor was rude and disrespectful by calling the man a bigot....

[Sweet One]

shut up and is called names.


yes. shut up. I KID I KID!!! :lol: :lol:

[musiclover]

yes, he was a pretty good catholic! :cool:
it's cool how he connected with so many young folks... makes me wish more of the spiritual leaders of all faiths would try to make such connections with young people, in order to bring about a liberal, loving, next generation...

[musiclover]

shut up and is called names.


yes. shut up. I KID I KID!!! :lol: :lol:

:P

you're still *the* Sweet One, no matter what. :kiss:

[Sweet One]

you're still *the* Sweet One, no matter what.


:lol: thanks. :blush:

[musiclover]

AIM is screwing up....it's not letting me sign-on!! :/ :angry:

[Sweet One]

It's working fine for me. *shrugs*

[musiclover]

yeah, i think it's the computer i'm on...some days it just doesn't let me get on AIM! :rolleyes:

[Sweet One]

BOOO for the bad computers.

[berrywoman]

AIM works for me too.. :P

[musiclover]

no fair!!
:angry:


hey berrychen....perhaps we can chat on AIM when i can get on...! :wink3:

i'm guessing you go by 'berrychen' on there too...